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On April 26 2013 02:07 white_horse wrote:
Ok thanks for the information guys. Then is it better to learn HTML with php, or learn HTML with css? I've taken classes in c++/c so I'm pretty familiar with "actual" programming.
Simple roadmap:
1. HTML - Must learn, the very core of websites. Easy as hell to learn, it's just a bunch of tags used to structure data... "This is a header, this is a link", stuff like that.
2. CSS - Tells the browser how you want tags to look. This is what you use to make a website look good, but it's technically not needed. Find some websites from 1995 and you'll see how your website will probably look if you don't learn at least some CSS.
3. Javascript - Lets you script the browser to do some things. Used to create popup windows, change layout on the page dynamically (for example using jQuery), validate forms... If your website just displays information, you can probably do without javascript, otherwise it could be anything from useful to invaluable.
4. Some server-side language. You only really need this if you want to make more of a web-appplication, such as making a forum or bullentinboard... Pretty much, if you want data to change on your site over time without you having to rewrite the site. A blog for example, you COULD just rewrite the pages and add new blogs to them, you only need a server side language if you want to implement some interface which lets you create new posts, load posts from a database etc. Here, you simply pick based on what language you want to work with. PHP? Java with JSP? C#/VB.Net with ASP.net? Javascript with Node.js? Ruby with Ruby on rails? Python with Django? The possibilities are almost endless.
5. Some database. If you're using a server-side language, chances are very high you're going to want a database as well. MySql is probably the most common for hobbyists but there's of course a billion options, though most people would use an SQL database. SQL Server, Oracle, PostgreSql etc.
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On April 26 2013 15:34 Tobberoth wrote:
5. Some database. If you're using a server-side language, chances are very high you're going to want a database as well. MySql is probably the most common for hobbyists but there's of course a billion options, though most people would use an SQL database. SQL Server, Oracle, PostgreSql etc.
Not to discount what you say, but a lot of server-side frameworks implement the databases through their own API and functionality (even if they still utilize SQL).
Not to say that learning databases isn't helpful, but for basic functionality you will still get the database without directly interacting with it.
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Need a recommendation for a language to use for a game. It will essentially be a puzzle game. I will need each piece to be able to be dragged and dropped, and pieces should be able to overlap.
My last couple of 'games' were in C#, but were more 'click a button, stuff happens' kind of thing. User interaction was minimal, and there were no distinct objects to manipulate. I think I could do it C#, but it might be more trouble that it's worth.
My initial thought was Flash. Anyone had any experience with it? Good free tools/frameworks to use?
How about Silverlight? Did it ever get off the ground? How common are Silverlight plugins these days?
Any others?
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On April 26 2013 16:50 BoxingKangaroo wrote:
Need a recommendation for a language to use for a game. It will essentially be a puzzle game. I will need each piece to be able to be dragged and dropped, and pieces should be able to overlap.
My last couple of 'games' were in C#, but were more 'click a button, stuff happens' kind of thing. User interaction was minimal, and there were no distinct objects to manipulate. I think I could do it C#, but it might be more trouble that it's worth.
My initial thought was Flash. Anyone had any experience with it? Good free tools/frameworks to use?
How about Silverlight? Did it ever get off the ground? How common are Silverlight plugins these days?
Any others?
Flash is easy to learn if you have some experience with OOP. You technically can do it without doing classes and stuff, but doing games without OOP limits your options by a lot. Though with a simple puzzle it should be possible without.
If you want to make the design, it's still easier to build it with the official Flash CS programs. But if you want to program the classes and so on, I can recommend Flash Develop.
Silverlight is hardly used. Never took off and came too late to take a marketshare off the browser plugin market before it started to decline.
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You should not use silverlight, it's barely supported by Microsoft anymore. Flash is an option if you want something simple, you could use XNA or something similar with C# though if that's your language of choice. SDL.Net etc works fine as well.
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On April 26 2013 15:04 tec27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 09:59 billy5000 wrote:http://hypem.com/Can someone explain how this site works, specifically how it allows the user to listen to music while moving from page to page? I have a very limited knowledge on single page apps, let alone front-end programming--is the site a hybrid or something? They're just making AJAX requests with JS and replacing the content with the response, pretty simple. Its an older form of 'single page app' really. If you want a better example with better tech/code: http://soundcloud.com
They are also changing the url like this:
http://spoiledmilk.com/blog/html5-changing-the-browser-url-without-refreshing-page/
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On April 26 2013 16:59 Chaosvuistje wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 16:50 BoxingKangaroo wrote:
Need a recommendation for a language to use for a game. It will essentially be a puzzle game. I will need each piece to be able to be dragged and dropped, and pieces should be able to overlap.
My last couple of 'games' were in C#, but were more 'click a button, stuff happens' kind of thing. User interaction was minimal, and there were no distinct objects to manipulate. I think I could do it C#, but it might be more trouble that it's worth.
My initial thought was Flash. Anyone had any experience with it? Good free tools/frameworks to use?
How about Silverlight? Did it ever get off the ground? How common are Silverlight plugins these days?
Any others? Flash is easy to learn if you have some experience with OOP. You technically can do it without doing classes and stuff, but doing games without OOP limits your options by a lot. Though with a simple puzzle it should be possible without. If you want to make the design, it's still easier to build it with the official Flash CS programs. But if you want to program the classes and so on, I can recommend Flash Develop. Silverlight is hardly used. Never took off and came too late to take a marketshare off the browser plugin market before it started to decline.
Thanks, I'll give it a shot in Flash.
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On April 26 2013 17:10 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 15:04 tec27 wrote:On April 26 2013 09:59 billy5000 wrote:http://hypem.com/Can someone explain how this site works, specifically how it allows the user to listen to music while moving from page to page? I have a very limited knowledge on single page apps, let alone front-end programming--is the site a hybrid or something? They're just making AJAX requests with JS and replacing the content with the response, pretty simple. Its an older form of 'single page app' really. If you want a better example with better tech/code: http://soundcloud.com They are also changing the url like this: http://spoiledmilk.com/blog/html5-changing-the-browser-url-without-refreshing-page/
I don't think Billy read the responses. I'll pm them to him as it seems we've all spent time reading his question and trying to help.
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Thanks everyone 
I guess I really lack the front-end stuff to apply it, though. I've been getting away with knowing just enough to do basic stuff I learned from web framework books. Now my weakness is growing on me, especially dealing with stuff like ajax, json and jquery (even though I already know basic javascript).
Can anybody recommend me some books/online resources for someone at my stage? It's just so much easier to pick up a decent web framework and language book/resource than to start learning front-end programming that connects the two, rather than front-end by itself. Most of the time, it's either too basic or way too complicated for my level.
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Had a product demo the other day for the latest set of features we'd incorporated. Pretty much the dev + testers and two customer higher-ups present.
Going through the demo steps, click the last button for one process and nothing happens. Eventually figure out the button won't click it all. We think "well that's a really weird bug on something we haven't touched in awhile," but we write it down and just bypass the call through the backend.
A little later, same issue with dropdowns. Somehow (through the magic of WebEx) there was a dead spot toward the right of the screen that would just totally ignore button clicks. Shift the whole window a little to the left and magically everything works again.
Talk about bugs only present during demos.
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So I have a friend of mine owns a local roofing company in my town. He wants to get a very basic website up, so he can at least have some presence on the web. I really don't do that kind of development, but at the same time I don't want them to get scammed with outrageous fees if they look to have someone do it for them (one place they looked at would have charged them $80 a month for a basic website upkeep).
Anyone here know of any affordable and trustworthy online services that can build basic web sites and handle domain names? Preferably something that's easy to use.
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80$ per month isn't really outrageous
If anything that is ridicoulous cheap(okay depends on what they do)
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Google imaging "geocities" is such a good nostalgia trip.
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On April 27 2013 04:57 Yoshi- wrote:
80$ per month isn't really outrageous
If anything that is ridicoulous cheap(okay depends on what they do)
Well they just want a simple website. Something that says, "hey, this is us. This is what we do. Here's how to contact us." Nothing more than that. They're just a local business.
Or maybe I'm asking the wrong question. Suppose I wanted to do it for them. I have experience with internal .NET web development. I do mostly BI stuff; I make stuff work but don't really have any knack for making stuff look pretty. Would there be an easy way for someone like me to build a basic web site for them, with some online assistance?
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On April 27 2013 05:00 enigmaticcam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 04:57 Yoshi- wrote:
80$ per month isn't really outrageous
If anything that is ridicoulous cheap(okay depends on what they do) Well they just want a simple website. Something that says, "hey, this is us. This is what we do. Here's how to contact us." Nothing more than that. They're just a local business. Or maybe I'm asking the wrong question. Suppose I wanted to do it for them. I have experience with internal .NET web development. I do mostly BI stuff; I make stuff work but don't really have any knack for making stuff look pretty. Would there be an easy way for someone like me to build a basic web site for them, with some online assistance?
I did a bit of searching on google and it seems basic websites run about 1-2 thousand plus maybe 25/month for hosting. If you have any programming experience and want to try your hand at making him a site, then you could find some template and prolly get something going in a weekend, but then one of you would have to set up hosting which may be a pain to support long term.
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A single page site shouldn't be more than a few hundred (from scratch) and like $10/mo for hosting. Or do what most small companies do and get a host (DreamHost or something), install WordPress, and get a theme made for $100 or whatever.
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Thanks all, you got me in the right direction!
Edit: Sorry, one last question. Would a host like DreamHost include a domain name? Or is that a separate thing?
Edit Edit: Nevermind, found it. ha. Sorry, I'm new to internet web development. Anyways, thanks again.
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On April 27 2013 03:36 Craton wrote:
Had a product demo the other day for the latest set of features we'd incorporated. Pretty much the dev + testers and two customer higher-ups present.
Going through the demo steps, click the last button for one process and nothing happens. Eventually figure out the button won't click it all. We think "well that's a really weird bug on something we haven't touched in awhile," but we write it down and just bypass the call through the backend.
A little later, same issue with dropdowns. Somehow (through the magic of WebEx) there was a dead spot toward the right of the screen that would just totally ignore button clicks. Shift the whole window a little to the left and magically everything works again.
Talk about bugs only present during demos.
Oh, that sucks so much D-X. That's why you always dry-run demos with the actual setup you'll use. I can't tell you how often we've had this kind of thing happen.
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Right now I've got a multi-monitor setup and a TV. During normal operation I have the TV disconnected through windows and then when I want to use it I reconnect it (extended). Rather than go into Screen Resolution every single time, I'd like to have a simple batch script or program I can run to trigger it. Any ideas?
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Is the default Windows+P hotkey insufficient? That's what I used to use to toggle monitors on and off. Two clicks I guess.
You could probably script it by providing the parameter to DisplaySwitch directly, instead of using Windows+P to open it.
Of course DisplaySwitch /? isn't showing shit for me, yay windows, google probably has the answer.
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