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spinesheath
Germany6065 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada14503 Posts
On November 19 2020 21:33 Manit0u wrote: Lazy devs. Devs that think they're super clever when they're not and are trying super hard to create code that only smart people like them will understand. And devs that perhaps think that if they write unintelligible spaghetti code they will become indispensable and they'll be able to work on it for years on end. Beats me. I call that 'turf protecting'. I prefer to constantly expand my turf so if i lose some of it.. who cares. Developers that do that crap have self confidence issues. If you are reliable, hard-working, know how to play the game of internal political BS while having only average talent ... there will always be a spot for you. The more talented you are.. the more you can fuck around and get away with it. On November 19 2020 21:00 WombaT wrote: Hey at least that gave you something to do. How the fuck do such things happen haha? I notice you are changing careers.. so this is an honest respectful question sir.. Have you ever worked in an IT department before? Do you know someone who has? i guess not? Dude, most IT departments could start their own puppy farm with the amount of dog-fucking that goes on. For about 30% of the year when I'm in hermit-coder-mode I produce a lot and I learn a lot. For a good portion of the other 70%... I'm just dicking around. Like right now.  | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland16433 Posts
On November 20 2020 03:29 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I call that 'turf protecting'. I prefer to constantly expand my turf so if i lose some of it.. who cares. Developers that do that crap have self confidence issues. If you are reliable, hard-working, know how to play the game of internal political BS while having only average talent ... there will always be a spot for you. The more talented you are.. the more you can fuck around and get away with it. I notice you are changing careers.. so this is an honest respectful question sir.. Have you ever worked in an IT department before? Do you know someone who has? i guess not? Dude, most IT departments could start their own puppy farm with the amount of dog-fucking that goes on. For about 30% of the year when I'm in hermit-coder-mode I produce a lot and I learn a lot. For a good portion of the other 70%... I'm just dicking around. Like right now. Most of my close friends are software engineers, actually was them that thought it would suit my particular brain and got me pondering the option. Won’t go into the dear diary aspects of why I’m rather underemployed mind, depressing enough held in my brain never mind shared. My ‘how the fuck?’ more springs from confusion and exasperation than any kind of surprise, although I usually reserve it for HR departments | ||
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WarSame
Canada1914 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland14925 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland16433 Posts
On November 20 2020 10:46 WarSame wrote: There is some terrible code out there. I had the misfortune of looking into some of Informatica's Java at one point. It was multiple 5 layer loops with go-tos and breaks throughout in a ~1000 line function. I had hoped to debug why something was failing. Instead I immediately turned and left, knowing I was facing a madness no mortal mind could comprehend. Lovecraftian code haha, to gaze at it is to stare into incomprehensible higher planes of horror. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule18126 Posts
On November 21 2020 04:22 Manit0u wrote: Geez. I've barely finished setting up my corp macbook and I already hate this thing. How can anyone work with this pile of junk? Keys are in the wrong places, getting anything installed or configured is a pain in the ass and there's no easy way to view all the open windows at once. Nightmare. avoid brew, it's only caused me headaches | ||
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Manit0u
Poland14925 Posts
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WarSame
Canada1914 Posts
On November 21 2020 04:25 WombaT wrote: Lovecraftian code haha, to gaze at it is to stare into incomprehensible higher planes of horror. Exactly! The good news is that the coders will sometimes put warning comments above their function, which is kind of like ancient seals on eldritch tomes. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland14925 Posts
On November 21 2020 12:18 WarSame wrote: Exactly! The good news is that the coders will sometimes put warning comments above their function, which is kind of like ancient seals on eldritch tomes. Like the famous comment that a guy left in one of Erlang's modules (it was the only comment in the entire codebase there): "And now for the tricky bit..." | ||
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria480 Posts
On November 21 2020 06:19 Manit0u wrote: I need brew since I'll mostly be working with vim, tmux and other tools that are not very macky... The biggest pain for me is super weird keyboard with buttons in the wrong places and in wrong shapes - muscle memory makes it so hard. Make sure to remove the "natural scrolling" option in the Mouse settings. That was so confusing coming from a Windows background. You scroll up but it goes down on the page. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland16433 Posts
On November 21 2020 19:25 SC-Shield wrote: Make sure to remove the "natural scrolling" option in the Mouse settings. That was so confusing coming from a Windows background. You scroll up but it goes down on the page. Inverted bros for life. But yeah there are definitely things I like and dislike about each platform and its UI for sure. One thing I just outright dislike in terms of Macs is their recent direction with replacing the physical function keys with a context-sensitive Touch Bar thing. Argh! For certain users like my sister she seems to love it, for folks comfortable navigating with keyboards it’s a pain in the arse. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland14925 Posts
- using cmd instead of ctrl - ctrl/cmd not being the leftmost bottom button on the keyboard (hate keyboards with this useless fn key there, hope I can remap it) - right alt and control flipped (might not be a big deal for english people but I use a lot of alt to write in my native language) - return key being upside down - I'm used to hitting the bottom part of it which is usually wider (not on Mac!) so now I constantly hit / instead of return which is pissing the hell out of me The biggest pains for me with the UI: - A lot of screen realestate is being taken up by this useless huge bar at the bottom - No "windows" key which would explode the view, showing all open windows so I could select one, much easier and faster than alt-tabbing and such Corporate firmware on top of everything doesn't help either - I need VPN to launch another VPN (with 2FA and LDAP to boot) and only when I'm connected to them I can use apps that let me ask for a permission to get admin rights on my laptop for a set period of time. So much red tape... | ||
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria480 Posts
On November 21 2020 20:54 Manit0u wrote: The biggest pains for me regarding mac keyboard: - using cmd instead of ctrl - ctrl/cmd not being the leftmost bottom button on the keyboard (hate keyboards with this useless fn key there, hope I can remap it) - right alt and control flipped (might not be a big deal for english people but I use a lot of alt to write in my native language) - return key being upside down - I'm used to hitting the bottom part of it which is usually wider (not on Mac!) so now I constantly hit / instead of return which is pissing the hell out of me The biggest pains for me with the UI: - A lot of screen realestate is being taken up by this useless huge bar at the bottom - No "windows" key which would explode the view, showing all open windows so I could select one, much easier and faster than alt-tabbing and such Corporate firmware on top of everything doesn't help either - I need VPN to launch another VPN (with 2FA and LDAP to boot) and only when I'm connected to them I can use apps that let me ask for a permission to get admin rights on my laptop for a set period of time. So much red tape... I was like this with Mac, but now it's less painful. You get used to the different settings after a while. I'm still a Windows user and I wouldn't switch to Mac for personal use. However, work is possible with Mac, you just need more time. Or, if you want to make life easier, I suggest you find some youtube how-to videos or some articles. The corporate stuff is understandable, it sometimes hinders work.. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland16433 Posts
On November 21 2020 20:54 Manit0u wrote: The biggest pains for me regarding mac keyboard: - using cmd instead of ctrl - ctrl/cmd not being the leftmost bottom button on the keyboard (hate keyboards with this useless fn key there, hope I can remap it) - right alt and control flipped (might not be a big deal for english people but I use a lot of alt to write in my native language) - return key being upside down - I'm used to hitting the bottom part of it which is usually wider (not on Mac!) so now I constantly hit / instead of return which is pissing the hell out of me The biggest pains for me with the UI: - A lot of screen realestate is being taken up by this useless huge bar at the bottom - No "windows" key which would explode the view, showing all open windows so I could select one, much easier and faster than alt-tabbing and such Corporate firmware on top of everything doesn't help either - I need VPN to launch another VPN (with 2FA and LDAP to boot) and only when I'm connected to them I can use apps that let me ask for a permission to get admin rights on my laptop for a set period of time. So much red tape... The work stuff sounds a big fucking pain. I guess you’re used to things, I was pondering the other day what the point of even having right alt and right control was as I borderline never used. Makes a ton of sense for languages that have lots of accents. The explode view is 100% ez, I just can’t remember how to do it or what it’s called. From bitter experience as I rebound my left function and left alt to the various switching window things and then was in hospital for so long I forgot how to undo it when I got out. Apple have an increasingly annoying habit of naming UI features in a way that doesn’t immediately signify with what they do. To the extent I’ve used them for years and can’t recall what they’re called (I’m in work atm). Think there’s ‘Mission control’ and all sorts. I assume you’re referring to the dock by the thing at the bottom? You can hide that in system preferences, the thing is called the dock. Happy hunting! I’ve experienced things the other way around and it’s a remarkably irritating process, but doesn’t take too much adjustment, especially if you’re forced to use stuff often. It was confusing to my Mac sensibilities to have preferences spread across different locations in Windows for example. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States8807 Posts
On November 21 2020 20:54 Manit0u wrote: Corporate firmware on top of everything doesn't help either - I need VPN to launch another VPN (with 2FA and LDAP to boot) and only when I'm connected to them I can use apps that let me ask for a permission to get admin rights on my laptop for a set period of time. So much red tape... This is the one that grinds my gears the most. I have root to our whole production cluster including the database, but I don't have admin rights to my laptop. Clearly can't be trusted. | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule18126 Posts
On November 21 2020 22:51 WombaT wrote: The explode view is 100% ez, I just can’t remember how to do it or what it’s called. From bitter experience as I rebound my left function and left alt to the various switching window things and then was in hospital for so long I forgot how to undo it when I got out. on the touch pad it's 4 fingers moving out | ||
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emperorchampion
United Kingdom4351 Posts
On November 22 2020 02:52 tofucake wrote: on the touch pad it's 4 fingers moving out 3 fingers up is OP also | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10033 Posts
On November 21 2020 20:54 Manit0u wrote: - ctrl/cmd not being the leftmost bottom button on the keyboard (hate keyboards with this useless fn key there, hope I can remap it) If you find a way, please share it. My laptop has it and i want to kill somebody whenever i have to press some F'X' key. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland14925 Posts
On November 22 2020 02:52 tofucake wrote: on the touch pad it's 4 fingers moving out WTF man. I'm a caveman with this stuff and I have no idea what "4 fingers moving out on the touchpad" means as touchpad is an atrocity for me and I avoid touching it as much as I can. | ||
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