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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
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KwarK
United States43862 Posts
On June 24 2010 14:33 riptide wrote: We're talking about the unelected leader of a country. If you cant bring some semblance of respect into this thread then please don't post. fixed | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
That's odd, I could have sworn that Julia Gillard is a member of Parliament. | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
On June 24 2010 14:47 J1.au wrote: That's odd, I could have sworn that Julia Gillard is a member of Parliament. Who elected her? | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 24 2010 14:12 stroggos wrote: we had female prime ministers for 12 years before john key O.o yea, but jenny wasn't elected PM either  kinda ironic that that's how australia and nz got their first women PMs | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
her constituency? | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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Chrisboy
Australia118 Posts
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wongi
Australia86 Posts
On June 24 2010 14:37 dethrawr wrote: I really like her as a leader, and I definitely want to see Labor triumph over Liberal at the upcoming election if for nothing else but to see Abbot and his extreme-right buddies (who want to cut health, education and infrastructure spending (INCLUDING AUSTRALIA's National Broadband fibre optic network) get crushed. Well, she hasn't led just yet, she was very competent in her role as deputy. We shall see if the leadership position will pile pressure on her as well. It seems like only yesterday that K-Rudd was so popular that he looked a sure thing for many years to come. I think it's a good move so that Labor can move on from all the undelivered election promises made by K-Rudd, not to mention the heavy falls in opinion polls. I doubt the Libs have a chance at next year's election. But then again, Labor has 10 months to screw themselves up. | ||
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KwarK
United States43862 Posts
On June 24 2010 14:47 J1.au wrote: That's odd, I could have sworn that Julia Gillard is a member of Parliament. So if we were discussing whether she was elected as a MP then the answer would be yes. If we were discussing whether she was elected as a PM then the answer is no. Of course you could argue that no PM is elected but when you vote for a party in a general election that can be read as an endorsement of the leader as PM. This was a palace coup, not an election. She is not an elected PM but rather an elected MP. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On June 24 2010 14:51 Plexa wrote: yea, but jenny wasn't elected PM either kinda ironic that that's how australia and nz got their first women PMsHonestly thats the only way i think a woman would be able to get that position in Australia, chauvanism can run pretty deep. Also think this result exemplifies how often in democracy, big business rather than the people form the gov. | ||
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eSen1a
Australia1058 Posts
and abbot notoriously doesn't give a fuck about the climate and environment but i'd rather see him PM than gillard, i think she is out of her depth and i cant imagine how she will run the country (not because shes female) i think labor was stupid to do this now, its gonna massively fuck up their support by the way VOTE GREEN | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
 Our country sucked ass due to the first gentleman, he has literally corrupted millions (or billions) of pesos in their reign of terror. Well, at least Australia won't been as corrupt as ours yours truly. | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
On June 24 2010 15:01 wongi wrote: Well, she hasn't led just yet, she was very competent in her role as deputy. We shall see if the leadership position will pile pressure on her as well. It seems like only yesterday that K-Rudd was so popular that he looked a sure thing for many years to come. I think it's a good move so that Labor can move on from all the undelivered election promises made by K-Rudd, not to mention the heavy falls in opinion polls. I doubt the Libs have a chance at next year's election. But then again, Labor has 10 months to screw themselves up. Election is this year. At the latest probably in October. And yeah, Libs (hopefully) have no chance Rudd flip-flopped on so many issues, and is sliding so much in free-fall, what do you people want..Rudd to contest a dangerous election and risk Abbott gaining power, or Gillard winning with a landslide? | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On June 24 2010 15:10 eSen1a wrote: my degree is based around climate and environment and abbot notoriously doesn't give a fuck about the climate and environment but i'd rather see him PM than gillard, i think she is out of her depth and i cant imagine how she will run the country (not because shes female) i think labor was stupid to do this now, its gonna massively fuck up their support by the way VOTE GREEN How the hell is she "out of her depth"? She has been Deputy Prime Minister for two and half years. That experience would easily make her the most qualified replacement for Kevin Rudd. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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ayababa
Australia347 Posts
gillard has been trying to sell of as much crap as possible ever she was the 2IC. CYA ruddy boi.... bring back john Howard and peter Costello.. then well start making money again. oh yeah one last thing ... KEVIN RUDD DIDNT SAVE AUSTRALIA FROM RECESSION .. it was the 10 years of saving that howard and costello did... enough of my rant edit.. im obviously aware that peter costello and john howard are retired.. and wont be coming back. | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
On June 24 2010 15:10 eSen1a wrote: my degree is based around climate and environment and abbot notoriously doesn't give a fuck about the climate and environment but i'd rather see him PM than gillard, i think she is out of her depth and i cant imagine how she will run the country (not because shes female) i think labor was stupid to do this now, its gonna massively fuck up their support by the way VOTE GREEN A vote for the greens is basically eventually a vote for labor. Your arguments are invalid and your post is absolutely terrible. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On June 24 2010 15:30 ayababa wrote: im glad kevin rudd is gone. we had a 20 billion surplus when liberal were in power. now its gone and we are at negative 300 billion. (a good chuck of this done prior to the economy went bonkers). gillard has been trying to sell of as much crap as possible ever she was the 2IC. CYA ruddy boi.... bring back john Howard and peter Costello.. then well start making money again. oh yeah one last thing ... KEVIN RUDD DIDNT SAVE AUSTRALIA FROM RECESSION .. it was the 10 years of saving that howard and costello did... enough of my rant edit.. im obviously aware that peter costello and john howard are retired.. and wont be coming back. Do you have any idea how the economy works? Generally speaking, being at a surplus is BAD. Being at a deficit is GOOD. Saving too much money = Recession. Spending money (in the right ways) = Fixing the recession. | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
On June 24 2010 15:30 ayababa wrote: im glad kevin rudd is gone. we had a 20 billion surplus when liberal were in power. now its gone and we are at negative 300 billion. (a good chuck of this done prior to the economy went bonkers). gillard has been trying to sell of as much crap as possible ever she was the 2IC. CYA ruddy boi.... bring back john Howard and peter Costello.. then well start making money again. oh yeah one last thing ... KEVIN RUDD DIDNT SAVE AUSTRALIA FROM RECESSION .. it was the 10 years of saving that howard and costello did... enough of my rant People like to quote numbers out of context.. but the truth is if Liberal was in power we would have never escaped from the recession with only a slight damage we have today. I don't know where you get the figure but the gross debt is $127.982 billion not 300 billion as of March 2010. The figure you're quoting is the 2014 estimated figure. It's also significantly less than compared to what other Major economy had to spend in attempt to escape the recession. | ||
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