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The new mining tax was becoming a huge problem for Labor. Qld and WA have quite a few marginal seats and rely heavily on mining to boost their economies. Labor stood to lose many seats, and possibly the next election, as dissent against the tax grew in the electorate.
Rudd could not back down as it would have been another sign of massive weakness like the ETS back down. Labor knew the only way to save face and change the mining tax would be to oust Rudd. His position became untenable regardless of what he did with the mining tax. With Gillard as leader, they can now make a fresh start and have another go at getting the tax right without losing as much credibility with the electorate had Rudd been in charge.
Not much will actually change within the Government, I suspect. This was more of a brand refresh for Labor in the lead-up to an election they looked like losing under Rudd.
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On June 24 2010 13:47 Megaman703 wrote:
Canada's first Female PM got into power the same way (current PM stood down)
Let's hope Ms Gillard's run is much better.
New Zealand's first female PM also this way.
On June 24 2010 21:18 Piste wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 14:12 stroggos wrote:
we had female prime ministers for 12 years before john key O.o We have female president.
We don't have a president.
And so many jokes about this on NZ radio stations today. Apparently she's an immigrant and ginger, the epitomy of what all Australians love.
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On June 24 2010 20:16 Dozle wrote:
Why are people so sensitive to the sexist jokes. They are jokes and this is the internet after all.
My suggestion is to keep these jokes between you and your friends who will know that you are just joking...
BTW I didn't know she was an immigrant. Though wiki says she came over from Wales at like 5 years old so she is Aussie. Kind of ironic that she had to come to a warmer climate because of her illness but is a redhead so probably should have stayed in a less sunny climate 
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On June 24 2010 20:10 youngminii wrote:
Attention everyone in Australia: Please don't vote Liberal, PLEASE. They want to scrap the NBN (National Broadband Network) project. I wants better internets, it's the way of the future.
I don't get this, NBN is gonna be outmatched by our ISPs anyway... I don't know why we need to have a substandard money sink.
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On June 24 2010 21:15 deL wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 17:45 Plexa wrote:On June 24 2010 16:53 deL wrote:On June 24 2010 14:12 stroggos wrote:
we had female prime ministers for 12 years before john key O.o Only by the loosest definition was Helen Clark a woman. I think Gillard will do fine, and I want my improved broadband so they are looking good for the vote. clearly you have forgotten jenny shipley Oh my bad, I probably didn't know NZ existed at that age let alone the significance of the first female PM.
it was only 1997!
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On June 24 2010 21:49 ShroomyD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 20:10 youngminii wrote:
Attention everyone in Australia: Please don't vote Liberal, PLEASE. They want to scrap the NBN (National Broadband Network) project. I wants better internets, it's the way of the future. I don't get this, NBN is gonna be outmatched by our ISPs anyway... I don't know why we need to have a substandard money sink.
Because it sounds really good, "hey guys theres gonna be these cables that connect EVERYONE, it'll be AWESOME"
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Australia has a government? I thought Mad Max was a documentary.
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On June 24 2010 13:47 Megaman703 wrote:
Canada's first Female PM got into power the same way (current PM stood down)
Same thing in Croatia.
I don't mean to sound offensive, but I have a feeling a big reason these women got selected vice-primeministers was to bring popularity thru sense of justice and gender equality to the candidate(i.e. women's votes). And then they end up prime ministers.
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On June 24 2010 21:19 Ramsing wrote:
Won't last. Seems like Kim Campbell 2.0, but because I'm nice I'll say this one will last for 6 months (2 more then Campbell!).
Campbell was thrown in as a scape-goat. Mulroney put in the tax, and she had to support it due to party loyalty, which basically meant that she had no way to get re-elected.....
Chretien, of course, promised to get rid of that tax. Instead, he used the money to get rid of the deficit (which was one of the purposes of the tax). He'll be remembered for Mulroney's work.....
Fuck, I hate politics.....
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Jeez, first page already full of warns/bans. -_-
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different leader , same lame-o policies
people turned off Krudd because of policies like
internet filtering
mining tax
illegal immigrants
Gillards stance on these is the same as Rudds , her popularity will decline pretty quickly.
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On June 24 2010 22:39 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
different leader , same lame-o policies
people turned off Krudd because of policies like
internet filtering
mining tax
illegal immigrants
Gillards stance on these is the same as Rudds , her popularity will decline pretty quickly.
she hasnt said anything about the filter, she is willing to negotiate on mining taxes, and she is going to consult about asylum seekers..
where are you getting these things from?
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I thought you meant private message lol. I do have a cousin living Australia though
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On June 24 2010 21:52 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 21:15 deL wrote:On June 24 2010 17:45 Plexa wrote:On June 24 2010 16:53 deL wrote:On June 24 2010 14:12 stroggos wrote:
we had female prime ministers for 12 years before john key O.o Only by the loosest definition was Helen Clark a woman. I think Gillard will do fine, and I want my improved broadband so they are looking good for the vote. clearly you have forgotten jenny shipley Oh my bad, I probably didn't know NZ existed at that age let alone the significance of the first female PM. it was only 1997!
Were you following politics at 9 years old?
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I think she could as easily win it as lose it. Time will tell and I'm certain that Australia will still be worse off with these politician swine 
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Has this ever happened before? (A party leader stepping down while PM)
This is a little sudden ;x
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On June 25 2010 00:17 faction123 wrote:
Has this ever happened before? (A party leader stepping down while PM)
This is a little sudden ;x
Not so much Rudd stepping down.
More like mp's sick of his micro decided to stab him in the back.
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Julia Gilliard will win this election, Kevin Rudd probably would have won it too. Whilst he was getting dragged in the polls, he was still way ahead of the Tony Abbott. Howard suffered similar drops in popularity before his second term, and he governed for over 10 years. It's pretty much unheard of society not to give government a second term.
Gilliard has been in office for one day, and already making some good moves. The Resource Tax, in principal is good economic reform, its just that the way it was implemented without consultation with the industry, and even rudd's cabinet pissed alot of people off of the wrong people off (ie the factional leaders of labor). he needed to be flexible in terms the retrospective aspect of the tax, and the tax rate. Resources are innately different to other industries due to their finite nature, therefore they to overcome these market failures, this had to be implementated. A flat resource rent tax is simply not appropiate for this industry. Rudd was forced to tax so highly and not negotiate to fund his return to budget surplus in 3 years, which was never really possible. You cant really save that money, when you have spent in many times over (ie infrastructure in WA/QLD, NBN network, and even back to the miners themselves in times of hardship).
On the other hand, shelving the ETS tax was good reform , because an ETS is extremely bad economic reform, it has innate first mover disadvantage. It's only effective if taken up on a global scale, if Australia implements an ETS without the rest of the world coming along, only our manfacturers will get hurt. A carbton tax that taxes consumption (hits imports not just local production) calculated in a similar fashion to GST promotes positive climate change. Producers and consumers will benefit through the decreased cost of climate friendly products as opposed to unfriendly products. Whilst these taxes are anti-competitive, they are WTO compliant.
Gillard will win the election, she is also very switched on, she use to be a partner of a major international law firm. However, she wont be calling the shots in the future, the labour caucas and unions the likes of Bill Shortern (sp?) are essentially using her as a puppet, (they probably would of preferred someone from there own right faction but there was no one suitable) .
I'm a liberal fan myself, but im glad to see kevin rudd the smug bastard out of power, even if means we won't have a chance to make government until the next election.
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