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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 20:33:45
May 30 2010 16:41 GMT
#1
edited so that discussion might stay more focused on the events that are actually happening

so if you want to discuss it or post recent news, by all means, please.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 16:44:14
May 30 2010 16:43 GMT
#2
You know, the worst part is, that BP repeatedly lied and covered up the actual facts on what was happening, and yet THEY ARE STILL IN CHARGE OF IT.


this shit is why i am a "conspiracy theorist". Who doesn't think corporations don't rule the world?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24805 Posts
May 30 2010 16:44 GMT
#3
I agree with you that we have several reasons to be pissed at BP and possibly at how they have been regulated... but I don't think the fact that they are or are not making money during this fiasco is anywhere near as big a deal as the others.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
May 30 2010 16:44 GMT
#4
Oh no, a big for profit company lied about something? Alert the presses.
neVern
Profile Joined January 2010
United States115 Posts
May 30 2010 16:45 GMT
#5
On May 31 2010 01:43 travis wrote:
You know, the worst part is, that BP repeatedly lied and covered up the actual facts on what was happening, and yet THEY ARE STILL IN CHARGE OF IT.


this shit is why i am a "conspiracy theorist". Who doesn't think corporations don't rule the world?


Sounds kind of like the federal government in everything they do.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 16:48:42
May 30 2010 16:48 GMT
#6
On May 31 2010 01:44 micronesia wrote:
I agree with you that we have several reasons to be pissed at BP and possibly at how they have been regulated... but I don't think the fact that they are or are not making money during this fiasco is anywhere near as big a deal as the others.


really
so you think it's fine that they are profiting during their fuckup, while tons of livelihoods are destroyed?

would it be fair if there was gold under your house that they were entitled to, so they burn down your house. then they take the gold and rebuild your house HALFWAY, leaving with massive profits?

this is the best analogy I can come up with but come on don't you see what i am saying? this is bp's fuckup(in conjunction with the other invested interests), they should be paying for EVERYTHING.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 30 2010 16:50 GMT
#7
On May 31 2010 01:45 neVern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 01:43 travis wrote:
You know, the worst part is, that BP repeatedly lied and covered up the actual facts on what was happening, and yet THEY ARE STILL IN CHARGE OF IT.


this shit is why i am a "conspiracy theorist". Who doesn't think corporations don't rule the world?


Sounds kind of like the federal government in everything they do.


what is your point?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24805 Posts
May 30 2010 16:50 GMT
#8
On May 31 2010 01:48 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 01:44 micronesia wrote:
I agree with you that we have several reasons to be pissed at BP and possibly at how they have been regulated... but I don't think the fact that they are or are not making money during this fiasco is anywhere near as big a deal as the others.


really
so you think it's fine that they are profiting during their fuckup, while tons of livelihoods are destroyed?

would it be fair if there was gold under your house that they were entitled to, so they burn down your house. then they take the gold and rebuild your house HALFWAY, leaving with massive profits?

this is the best analogy I can come up with but come on don't you see what i am saying? this is bp's fuckup(in conjunction with the other invested interests), they should be paying for EVERYTHING.

Yes I think it's fine that they are profiting during their fuckup while tons of livelihoods are being destroyed, just like I said. In fact I'm going to wire them some money to increase their proceeds for the next few days.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 30 2010 16:53 GMT
#9
I think I live in the ideal generation and location. Late enough that I can enjoy the internet is all it's glory, but early enough that the repercussions of industry will not directly affect me.

Not that it's okay what people in the wrong location, or the wrong generation will have to deal with, but I'm basically doing all I can about it. People are irresponsible... It's just that the world only seems to notice when it's on a large scale like this. Social change must be encouraged.
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
May 30 2010 16:53 GMT
#10
Yeah I fully agree they should be held 100% accountable.
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
May 30 2010 16:56 GMT
#11
On May 31 2010 01:53 RaGe wrote:
Yeah I fully agree they should be held 100% accountable.

But they won't be.
eSen1a
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1058 Posts
May 30 2010 16:56 GMT
#12
Who doesn't think corporations don't rule the world?

doesn't/don't?
i think it shouldn't have happened in the first place, i probably should have followed this more closely as it is very related to my degree but TBH i been lazy ... but i thought BP DO have to pay for the entire cost of spill and its aftermath? i got no idea if they have to pay for existence value like exxon had to?
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2717 Posts
May 30 2010 16:58 GMT
#13
Because if they go bankrupt the Western world will collapse...

As the largest oil company in the world there are many people who are interested that BP does well no matter what the circumstances are. I agree that the US governmet should be harsher on them and make them pay big time for this mess, but this ain't gonna happen... yeah, life is unfair; pisses me off sometimes...
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 17:01:46
May 30 2010 17:01 GMT
#14
What I want to know is how you can be so undoubtedly sure that BP is fully responsible. The Oilplatform was the responsibility of 4 parties, Halliburton, BP, Transoceanic and the goverment inspectors.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
May 30 2010 17:02 GMT
#15
What about Obama? Originally i laughed about comments like this will be Obama's Katrina, but now it's actually happening. Why isn't the supposedly most advanced and powerful nation able to stop simple oil spill? Incompetence and corrupcy anywhere you look.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24805 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 17:07:49
May 30 2010 17:07 GMT
#16
On May 31 2010 02:02 johanes wrote:
What about Obama? Originally i laughed about comments like this will be Obama's Katrina, but now it's actually happening. Why isn't the supposedly most advanced and powerful nation able to stop simple oil spill? Incompetence and corrupcy anywhere you look.

Prevent, perhaps. This only happened because of a long chain of events driven by greed and incompetence (just like the sinking of the Titanic or the Challenger disaster)... but once an oil spill like this has happened it is no longer simple.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
May 30 2010 17:08 GMT
#17
regardless of who's going to held accountable, regardless of if Obama has done enough or hasn't, the damage being done is depressing to think about. It'll take 2+ decades to clean this up fully and the eco system will most likely never recover. effects will be felt in the arctic circle. They most likely won't even be able to stop the gushing until the secondary well is drilled which is still two months away. It's the worst oil spill in history and we could be looking at only 1/3 of the impact so far and the impact so far and already it's ridiculously bad.

deep water drilling has always been bad news, the breach is a mile under water...
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 30 2010 17:08 GMT
#18
Wtf ? Just because a country is powerful has nothing to do with its ability to prevent an oil spill...
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 17:14:28
May 30 2010 17:10 GMT
#19
On May 31 2010 01:58 ggrrg wrote:
Because if they go bankrupt the Western world will collapse...


no it wouldn't, what are u talking about?

the oil is there whether or not BP is there. BP going bankrupt will not make the oil disappear.

but regardless, they could clean all of this up with fishing boats and they wouldn't go bankrupt.
(im exaggerating for emphasis. but i wouldn't be surprised if they really could)


On May 31 2010 02:01 Catch]22 wrote:
What I want to know is how you can be so undoubtedly sure that BP is fully responsible. The Oilplatform was the responsibility of 4 parties, Halliburton, BP, Transoceanic and the goverment inspectors.


BP is just the face I am attaching. I agree with you, there are other responsible parties. And after writing my OP i edited to reflect that by saying "other invested interests".

It just seemed like too much work to include them all.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 30 2010 17:13 GMT
#20
Yeah, corporations (or some of them) are pretty messed up as far as what they'll do to turn a profit and how little social responsibility they feel. Between the bankers, the businesses, and the government we're pretty screwed these days.
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