actually it kinda does. However, i wanted say that they still arent taking this seriously enough. Imagine russia or china would want to seize one single oil source. USA would give 1000000 times more funds to prevent it than it is currently to stop this.

johanes

Czech Republic2229 Posts

May 30 2010 17:18 GMT

#22

pls delete

Pika Chu

Romania2510 Posts

May 30 2010 17:18 GMT

#23

I'm doing a case study on it, right as we speak, i need to finish it in 3 days.

Travis if you don't mind but have interesting sources and interesting reads about it, i would appreciate if you could share some with me.

And i hate the "i'm not american why should i care" attitude that i've seen around here. I care and i am pissed as well.

Hell, let's think at how BP appeared and the fact that it indirectly made a coup d'etat in iran for its profit. And let's not forget about other screw ups done by BP. And let's be honest, BP is simply doing a better job in PR than Exxon but otherwise they are just as iresponsible as exxon was when valdez sank.

Elric

United Kingdom1327 Posts

May 30 2010 17:19 GMT

#24

BP are in charge of it because no one has better knowledge and expertise than them to fix it. We, including the US government, just have to trust and hope they come up with something that works. Its not like the US government is sitting idly by and telling BP to hurry up - they've got a crack team of scientists working with BP to come up with solutions. It's in everyone's interest to stop the leak as soon as possible and they would have done if it really was a 'simple' oil spill.

I'm not defending BP though. They fucked up HUGE over this and lied about how much oil was actually spilling into the sea. I'm pretty sure they will first pay all the reasonable costs of the clean-up to the satisfaction of the US government. They won't admit 100% fault for the incident though as they will be sueing anyone with any money that they get lay additional fault on. (such as the manufacturer of the blow-out preventer).

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

May 30 2010 17:23 GMT

#25

On May 31 2010 02:18 Pika Chu wrote:
I'm doing a case study on it, right as we speak, i need to finish it in 3 days.

Travis if you don't mind but have interesting sources and interesting reads about it, i would appreciate if you could share some with me.

And i hate the "i'm not american why should i care" attitude that i've seen around here. I care and i am pissed as well.

Hell, let's think at how BP appeared and the fact that it indirectly made a coup d'etat in iran for its profit. And let's not forget about other screw ups done by BP. And let's be honest, BP is simply doing a better job in PR than Exxon but otherwise they are just as iresponsible as exxon was when valdez sank.

more irresponsible

have u heard about BP's history of code violations?
it's absolutely ridiculous

http://www.google.com/search?q=BP history of violations&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=Pp4CTPzwMZPwM8LKqbQC&sa=X&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=11&ved=0CD4Q5wIwCg

(hope that link works)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread574522/pg1

JohannesH

Finland1364 Posts

May 30 2010 17:23 GMT

#26

On May 31 2010 01:43 travis wrote:this shit is why i am a "conspiracy theorist". Who doesn't think corporations don't rule the world?

How is saying corporations rule the world, a conspiracy? Of course big companies with a tons of money have a lot of power - it is just how things work atm, and pretty clear to anyone.

omninmo

2349 Posts

May 30 2010 17:24 GMT

#27

corporations do not rule the world.
conglomerates of corporations do, however.

paper money is nothing but enchanted-fetish-charms implemented to keep the general public (especially the "rich" ones) pacified.
Those who are born without hereditary influence or power are pacified by the "hope of getting rich" with diligence and conformism- " the american dream".

you think the conglomerate that BP is a part of cares about money? they have too much.
power is all these people want. they drink it with a side of adrenochrome from the sacrificed spinal chord of virgins.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

May 30 2010 17:27 GMT

#28

On May 31 2010 02:23 JohannesH wrote:

Show nested quote +

How is saying corporations rule the world, a conspiracy? Of course big companies with a tons of money have a lot of power - it is just how things work atm, and pretty clear to anyone.

you might be surprised how many people ignore this when discussing government issues with them

Housemd

United States1407 Posts

May 30 2010 17:42 GMT

#29

BP is being given a lot of slack here. It was there whole fault for what happened in the Gulf. I mean, they didn't take the necessary requirements firstly just so that it would "go faster" WTF? I mean your risking a potentially large oil spill just to go faster.

Another thing is, they have the best engineers working on this, i mean the best. And still they have failed with the "top kill" and all. Now, they're going to use a cap to clean up the spill. Wow, fail BP

Ero-Sennin

United States756 Posts

May 30 2010 17:45 GMT

#30

You know, I really wish they'd give this a try: http://wcco.com/specialreports/local.company.oil.2.1699397.html

http://wcco.com/video/?id=79004@wcco.dayport.com video version

Because it has worked so far for Minnesota. But of course, the government usually takes something that makes sense and goes in the complete opposite direction.

*Unrelated* RON PAUL FIGHTING!!!!

jello_biafra

United Kingdom6639 Posts

May 30 2010 17:46 GMT

#31

The U.S. Government has named BP as the responsible party in the incident, and officials have said the company will be held accountable for all cleanup costs resulting from the oil spill.[17][18] BP has accepted responsibility for the oil spill and the cleanup costs, but indicated they were not at fault because the platform was run by Transocean personnel.[19]

BP and other oil companies are doing all they can to solve this problem, it's in all their interests. BP didn't make the platform and didn't run it so I think some others should also be responsible for this.

wishbones

Canada2600 Posts

May 30 2010 17:50 GMT

#32

its illuminati!

edit: Aw someone beat me to it.

Emon_

3925 Posts

May 30 2010 17:57 GMT

#33

I have a feeling this has been going on in Africa for decades, but once it happens in America, everyone gets upset. It happened today, it will happen again. Welcome to reality.

Liquid`Nazgul

22427 Posts

May 30 2010 18:05 GMT

#34

they easily have the money to clean everything up, but cleaning the oil up will still leave the environment ruined

if they have to pay for the worth of nature they'll be bankrupt

il0seonpurpose

Korea (South)5638 Posts

May 30 2010 18:06 GMT

#35

Can you give some sources or back up how you know that BP is still making so much money and not helping (enough) to pay for the damages? I believe you, but I just want to see the facts

DefMatrixUltra

Canada1992 Posts

May 30 2010 18:07 GMT

#36

Guys, his point is this:

A monumental fuckup like this should not result in "business as usual" or even "tough going". It should have serious repercussions. You think these things would ever happen if a large corp like BP could potentially go bankrupt over fixing them?

Even the diehard ubercapitalist can see the logic behind this. There should be a tangible incentive not to ruin the environment and cost others billions of dollars.

Lexpar

1813 Posts

May 30 2010 18:08 GMT

#37

They have too much money. How can a government that has negative money boss around a corporation with infinite money?

h3r1n6

Iceland2039 Posts

May 30 2010 18:09 GMT

#38

http://twitter.com/bpglobalpr

Aphelion

United States2720 Posts

May 30 2010 18:10 GMT

#39

The question we should really ask is why are we allowing such deep offshore drilling when its clear that we don't know wtf to do when a spill (inevitably) happens? I think unless you are about to come up with detailed contingency scenarios that are confirmed to work you shouldn't be allowed to drill, period.

That said, fuck BP.