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Sadist
United States7155 Posts
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damon2400
United States172 Posts
That is of course if your interested in fantasy/fiction. Brandon Sanderson: Warbreaker, Mistborn Trilogy Scott Lynch: The Lies of Locke Lamora Steven Erickson: The Malazan Books of the Fallen Anne McCaffery: Pegasus in Space Robert Jordan/Brandon Sanderson: The Wheel of Time David and Leigh Eddings: Belgariad/Malloreon Patrick Rothfuss: The Name of the Wind | ||
Nightmarjoo
United States3359 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17182 Posts
On May 14 2010 10:54 Eishi_Ki wrote: Cant believe I forgot this, "A Song of Ice and Fire". Series of books by George R.R. Martin with a television series of the first book on the way. A seriously addictive series of books, to which many among this community would recommend. I would not. I'm on volume #2 of the Storm of Swords now and I must say it's getting progressively worse. Pros: + the whole idea of the fight for the throne and how it goes back and forth is great Cons: - the style of the book resembles that of a Brazillian soap opera, drags for eternity and you wish you didn't see/read half of it - all is made in POV style with various characters acting as a main one, this wouldn't be bad except for the fact that all the characters you're really interested in are not included here and only the most boring/emo/uninteresting character's views are presented - many 'technical' mistakes (from sailor's perspective, considering yard and boom as the same thing is a travesty, the same goes for some weapon, combat, siege machine and definitely wolf behavior references) All in all, I rate it as mediocre at best. | ||
sacrificetheory
United States98 Posts
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Diaspora
United States140 Posts
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bellweather
United States404 Posts
Ninja Edit: If you're reading translations, do your research about the translators and read the footnotes. A lot of stuff whizzes by you if you don't read the editors/translators' notes. I recently read Snow by Pamuk and I don't speak Turkish, never lived there, but translators' notes/wikipedia helped a lot with the historical context and the general underlying tones on which the book is founded. | ||
snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
Step 2: Wander around, looking at books until something in you says "This shit looks interesting. Lemme read a few pages." Step 3: After finding a book that YOU find interesting and have finished it, expand your horizons using that book as a starting point. Maybe books by the same author, books in the same genre, books by other writers that the author gives praise to; or you can always go back to step 1. Don't be put off if whatever you're interested in isn't "hardcore lit". Go for fantasy or sci fi if that's your cup of tea, or crime or whatever. I'm just starting to get into the Brontes and Tolstoys and, while I'm enjoying them now, I know there's no way I would love reading as much as I currently do if I limited myself to those at the start. They require a lot more patience than a good action-packed sci fi or crime novel. Nowadays I always have a huge ass list of books I want to finish reading and they're piling up more quickly than I can read through them. Still I like to go to step 1 every once in a while, it's nice to go around fishing for a great book that you didn't know about before you stepped foot into the library. | ||
Ruehl
United States68 Posts
watership down by richard adams | ||
Jawa~
United States291 Posts
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
I wouldn't recommend starting off with hardcore literature, read some light, quick, and entertaining stuff first. | ||
PhoenixM1
United States178 Posts
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PhoenixM1
United States178 Posts
On May 14 2010 10:40 sgeng wrote: Personally I found Great Gatsby to be amazingly dry and a tedious read. I would recommend: -->The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas (Also wrote The Three Musketeers and The Man in the Iron Mask, which were both great books as well)--I recommend reading the abridged version, at least at first. The unabridged version can be a little daunting as well as complex. -->Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen -->Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes (An awesome book, must read) -->The Death of Ivan Ilych by Leo Tolstoy (More of a short story) These 4 books are relatively easy and enjoyable reads, being well known pieces of literature yet entertaining at the same time. If you would like to move to something slightly more complex: -->Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoyevsky (Actually, almost all of Dostoyevsky's works are worth reading) -->The Illiad and the Odyssey by Homer--You've probably been assigned to read this in middle/high school, but more than likely you read the abridged version. The unabridged version I believe is worth going back and rereading. What I would NOT recommend: -->Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes--This book is a bore. There is no plot, just a series of events of a madman. -->The Metamorphoses by Ovid (Not to be confused with The Metamorphosis by Kafka)--A collection of myths in which people are transformed into something else. The entire thing is terribly disconnected and difficult to really care about what it's talking about cause it's just BS anyways. -->Most of the Shakespearean works--Most of the world probably would disagree, but I find that Shakespeares plays are just that...plays. The man was a playwright, not an author. His plays may be good and all, but honestly it doesn't pass as literature. It's like saying Schindler's List is a literary work just cause it had a good story. No. It's a good movie, not a good piece of literature. ^Good advice. The Great Gatsby was boring as hell and the symbolism was really hard to figure out. The Count of Monte Cristo is one of my favorite books; I definitely recommend that one. | ||
Jonoman92
United States9101 Posts
On May 16 2010 16:07 Ruehl wrote: east of eden by steinback <---my favorite book watership down by richard adams Ah I'm glad to hear someone else really liked East of Eden. Grapes of Wrath and Of Mice and Men are great too (well some people though Grapes was long/boring, I didn't though) but they seem to overshadow East of Eden despite it being just as good a novel imo. This thread makes me want to start reading again. Being out of high school and in college as an engineering major is not conducive to reading good books. | ||
Jonoman92
United States9101 Posts
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Navi
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Steinbeck is probably my favorite author: he's easy to read (even at a fairly low level of reading) while being very interesting; and as you get more proficient at the language, it becomes much easier to see the ironies and lingual play that he often uses to captivate his readers. Steinbeck is doubly interesting for the people who are interested in the time periods that he wrote in / about (WWII America, post WWI veterans or politics, etc. etc.). It is also easier to get all of the references he makes if you have some knowledge of these time periods. But even if you don't, it's still totally worth reading his stuff. The order I would read them in: Of Mice and Men (10/10: really accessible, short, and yet very moving and has well developed characters) Cannery Row & Tortilla Flat (8.5/10: good reads). In dubious battle (8/10: will require more historical and social knowledge of anti-communist tendencies to get all the references; but is a great novel nonetheless) East of Eden (10/10: a great read) Grapes of Wrath (9.5~/10: this book might need a little bit of reading experience to get all of the dark humor) | ||
igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On May 14 2010 20:30 distant_voice wrote: This is a PM I wrote up for the OP, but I might as well post it on the forums: Hi there, it's nice to see that you want to get into literature. I've majored in comparative literature, just saying this to back up what I'm about to say to you. I know it's an appeal to authority but if it makes you read the rest of this it did what it was supposed to do. you can figure out if what I say makes sense to you or not yourself. You won't make any headway by just reading some famous books that random people recommend to you. Some people think that them skimming through thousands of pages written by authors that have some acclaim makes them literature experts or worse "connoisseurs". lol I can get high on 20 bottles of expensive wine but that doesn't say anything about whether I know shit about wine does it? The main difference between people who read for entertainment and people who read books to appreciate the art of writing is that the latter groups reads a lot more thoroughly and, thus, more slowly. My sister for example has rushed through hundreds of books without ever realizing what they were really about. You have to realize that writing is an art. This means that you take everything, every little detail very seriously. You don't have to read Vonnegut, Joyce, Kafka or any other "name-authors" to do that. I teach English over hear in Germany and I've read Louis Sachar's Holes with a bunch of 16-17 year-olds. It's as fertile for interpretation and for learning how to properly read a book as any other decent book. This goes for King's or Rice's novels as well. Details have meaning and if you don't see the meaning immediately think about them. Why did the author put this sentence in the book? What does it convey? This is something that takes effort and time. Read slowly. Read thoroughly. You'll discover a lot of things that will make you appreciate the book you're reading on a whole new level. If you want to practice this you might want to start out with poems, since they're even more compressed than novels are, but easier to read through a couple of times so that you can see the whole thing. This is another thing: read books several times. Each times you'll discover new things and learn more about the book. I'd suggest you get a good book that explains a couple of poems in detail, and I don't mean a bio of the author and the way people believe the poem came into existence. You need to analyse the imagery, the structure of the text. This is where is magic is. There are a couple of things that one has to take into consideration when dealing with a book, but that's mostly to do with the history of ideas and it's nothing you have to worry about if you don't want to study literature. When you've understood what some imagery means and how you have to approach it and think about it I'd suggest you get a rather short novel next. Pick something accessible, for the love of god stay away from Joyce and the like. I'd recommend "The old man and the sea". It's plot is so simple that you'll be forced to think about the actual meaning of the book in order to not get bored. Remember that understanding literature isn't about having read a lot of famous books, it's more like aquiring a set of tools that'll help you unlock each and every book. If you don't like "The old man and the sea" pick any other book. JUST REMEMBER TO READ SLOWLY TO READ THOROUGHLY (TAKE EVERY DETAILS SERIOUSLY) TO RE-READ BOOKS THAT THE MAGIC ISN'T IN THE PLOT I agree and disagree. As an individual you shouldn't read books because you're supposed to or because they're well known or difficult. You should definitely read something accessible, or in my words, something which you'll appreciate. If you don't enjoy it, there's no point. My parents told me to read literature growing up, just because "you're supposed to read literature", and that turned me off for years. It took a very good English teacher to make it enjoyable for me to appreciate it properly again. I think you get more out of books if you read them slowly and look through the details, and if you just spend a lot of time thinking about it. If you can understand a book in a way, that you can currently or in the future relate an experience to it, you'll understand why it's worthwhile. However, if you're not interested in appreciating the writing style or imagery, it's not worth forcing it. You'll probably need a background before you can start appreciating the differences. Like you have to learn forge expand before you learn the difference between an early +1 weapons or greedier variants. Just going through a list of books is a shotgun approach that you don't need if you're not in a curriculum. Find out what you like first. When you read a story or watch a movie, what sort of inner or interpersonal conflicts do you find compelling? Do you find yourself drawn more to exotic places, or maybe the grim streets of England during the Industrialization, or the hidden secrets of everyday life? | ||
Biff The Understudy
France7802 Posts
On May 16 2010 16:38 PhoenixM1 wrote: ^Good advice. The Great Gatsby was boring as hell and the symbolism was really hard to figure out. The Count of Monte Cristo is one of my favorite books; I definitely recommend that one. I would have said exactly the opposite lol: Shakespeare, Cervantes and Ovid >>>>>> Jane Austen and Tolstoy. | ||
r4ptur3
United States30 Posts
In order of increasing difficulty (imo), and all fairly good reads: - Animal Farm (Orwell) - The Great Gatsby (Fitzgerald) - Brave New World (Huxley) - Catch-22 (Heller) - Moby Dick (Melville) - The Count of Monte Cristo (Dumas) - The Third Man (Greene) - Lord of the Flies (Golding) - Catcher in the Rye (Salinger) - The Prince (Machiavelli) [Not a novel, strictly speaking, but it reads almost like one] - All Quiet on the Western Front (Remarque) - The Trial (Kafka) - Nathan The Wise (Lessing) - Crime and Punishment (Dostoevsky) - War and Peace (Tolstoy) ...and of course, if you're looking for the ultimate literary boner: - The Illiad (Homer) - Paradise Lost (Milton) - Ulysses (Joyce) - The Divine Comedy (Dante) - Hamlet (Shakespeare) although I didn't really enjoy The Illiad and I quite frankly didn't understand Ulysses ![]() ![]() | ||
DikFore
United States33 Posts
There's tons of good books out there, however Catcher in the Rye is not one of those good books. I've never been more frustrated in my life reading that piece of garbage. | ||
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