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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12406 Posts
March 07 2026 09:38 GMT
#1301
You don't hurt cartels by getting a more rightwing government (obviously), you hurt cartels by legalizing drugs.
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10554 Posts
March 07 2026 09:55 GMT
#1302
On February 25 2026 23:57 Jankisa wrote:
I mean, I don't want to go into the validity of the information shared in his post, overall, even if the guy is Mexican I'd say that most of what he wrote seems like typical "the party I don't like is working with the criminals". His whole "the president doesn't want to take credit for this military raid" is pretty much complete bullshit, I see no reports or news on anyone else taking or not taking credit for the raid, she is the president, she commands the Army and she ran on the platform different form her predecessor, mainly different in their way to approach the Cartel problem.

I guess, overall, people are becoming super desensitized to violence, death and war. Ukraine, Gaza, Sudan, Yemen, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, no one cares if thousands will die and everyone seems to be talking like the people there are an acceptable sacrifice so we can all just chill and play video games.


Sure... over 200,000 murders under Lopez (founder of the party), he instantly released el Ovidio Guzman (Chapo Jr) when the army caught him, he was photographed attending his birthday party a few months before, the US "Cien Fuegos" a General of the Mexican army that worked with the cartels, Mexico asked to extradite him and as soon as he touched Mexican soil Lopez released him and later gave him a medal and Sheinbaum is on track to beat all his bloody records.

The hubris to call bullshit on what I said while not having the slightest clue about Mexican politics, she didn't want to take credit for the Mencho take down, even Trump gave a press release before she did, everybody was talking about it while she was playing dumb, the operation ran without her knowledge or she was feigning not to know to not anger the CJNG.

She did not run on a different platform than her predecessor stop making stuff up, she ran on the same "hugs not bullets" slogan, she blames Calderon (a previous president) for the violence since he declared war on the cartels, this party's ideology is to never fight the cartels they explicitly say it over and over, she blames the US for Sinaloas collapse because they took down El Mayo, the leader of a cartel, the only reason why people are getting caught is because Trump has been twisting her arm hard to take action against the cartels.
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10554 Posts
March 08 2026 11:04 GMT
#1303
On March 07 2026 18:38 Nebuchad wrote:
You don't hurt cartels by getting a more rightwing government (obviously), you hurt cartels by legalizing drugs.


Legalizing drugs work but so does brutal law enforcment like Bukele or Lee Kwan Yu did.

Neither of these will happen since like I've stated before the cartels and the government are far too intertwined unless something drastic and unexpected happens.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17690 Posts
March 09 2026 03:08 GMT
#1304
On March 08 2026 20:04 baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2026 18:38 Nebuchad wrote:
You don't hurt cartels by getting a more rightwing government (obviously), you hurt cartels by legalizing drugs.


Legalizing drugs work but so does brutal law enforcment like Bukele or Lee Kwan Yu did.

Neither of these will happen since like I've stated before the cartels and the government are far too intertwined unless something drastic and unexpected happens.


Brutal law enforcement never worked out for anyone in the long run.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2317 Posts
March 09 2026 05:30 GMT
#1305
On March 09 2026 12:08 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2026 20:04 baal wrote:
On March 07 2026 18:38 Nebuchad wrote:
You don't hurt cartels by getting a more rightwing government (obviously), you hurt cartels by legalizing drugs.


Legalizing drugs work but so does brutal law enforcment like Bukele or Lee Kwan Yu did.

Neither of these will happen since like I've stated before the cartels and the government are far too intertwined unless something drastic and unexpected happens.


Brutal law enforcement never worked out for anyone in the long run.


Tell that to San Salvator, who after martial law went from 100 per 100000 murder rate to "mere" 3 per 100000 in a decade.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17690 Posts
March 09 2026 08:58 GMT
#1306
On March 09 2026 14:30 hitthat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2026 12:08 Manit0u wrote:
On March 08 2026 20:04 baal wrote:
On March 07 2026 18:38 Nebuchad wrote:
You don't hurt cartels by getting a more rightwing government (obviously), you hurt cartels by legalizing drugs.


Legalizing drugs work but so does brutal law enforcment like Bukele or Lee Kwan Yu did.

Neither of these will happen since like I've stated before the cartels and the government are far too intertwined unless something drastic and unexpected happens.


Brutal law enforcement never worked out for anyone in the long run.


Tell that to San Salvator, who after martial law went from 100 per 100000 murder rate to "mere" 3 per 100000 in a decade.


This is not a great example. You have failed country moved on to authoritarian government basically. Things like that don't work in normal democracies.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1207 Posts
19 hours ago
#1307
Singapore is a stupid, stupid example (just like most things Mr. "I hope for a terrorist attack" writes) as they never had a real organized crime problem.

He, just like every other authoritarian boot licker worships Bukele who basically did what he accuses Mexican goverment of, made a deal with cartels:

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/bukele-trump-gangs/

As usual, high level analysis from the top minds...
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2317 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-10 06:32:13
3 hours ago
#1308
On March 09 2026 17:58 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2026 14:30 hitthat wrote:
On March 09 2026 12:08 Manit0u wrote:
On March 08 2026 20:04 baal wrote:
On March 07 2026 18:38 Nebuchad wrote:
You don't hurt cartels by getting a more rightwing government (obviously), you hurt cartels by legalizing drugs.


Legalizing drugs work but so does brutal law enforcment like Bukele or Lee Kwan Yu did.

Neither of these will happen since like I've stated before the cartels and the government are far too intertwined unless something drastic and unexpected happens.


Brutal law enforcement never worked out for anyone in the long run.


Tell that to San Salvator, who after martial law went from 100 per 100000 murder rate to "mere" 3 per 100000 in a decade.


This is not a great example. You have failed country moved on to authoritarian government basically. Things like that don't work in normal democracies.


You are completely right. The thing is, I consider Mexico a failed state if glorified street thugs are capable of intimidating gouvernment into compliance. Not that cleaning all mess is easy, thou.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
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