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Nebuchad
Switzerland12451 Posts
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baal
10708 Posts
On February 25 2026 23:57 Jankisa wrote: I mean, I don't want to go into the validity of the information shared in his post, overall, even if the guy is Mexican I'd say that most of what he wrote seems like typical "the party I don't like is working with the criminals". His whole "the president doesn't want to take credit for this military raid" is pretty much complete bullshit, I see no reports or news on anyone else taking or not taking credit for the raid, she is the president, she commands the Army and she ran on the platform different form her predecessor, mainly different in their way to approach the Cartel problem. I guess, overall, people are becoming super desensitized to violence, death and war. Ukraine, Gaza, Sudan, Yemen, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, no one cares if thousands will die and everyone seems to be talking like the people there are an acceptable sacrifice so we can all just chill and play video games. Sure... over 200,000 murders under Lopez (founder of the party), he instantly released el Ovidio Guzman (Chapo Jr) when the army caught him, he was photographed attending his birthday party a few months before, the US "Cien Fuegos" a General of the Mexican army that worked with the cartels, Mexico asked to extradite him and as soon as he touched Mexican soil Lopez released him and later gave him a medal and Sheinbaum is on track to beat all his bloody records. The hubris to call bullshit on what I said while not having the slightest clue about Mexican politics, she didn't want to take credit for the Mencho take down, even Trump gave a press release before she did, everybody was talking about it while she was playing dumb, the operation ran without her knowledge or she was feigning not to know to not anger the CJNG. She did not run on a different platform than her predecessor stop making stuff up, she ran on the same "hugs not bullets" slogan, she blames Calderon (a previous president) for the violence since he declared war on the cartels, this party's ideology is to never fight the cartels they explicitly say it over and over, she blames the US for Sinaloas collapse because they took down El Mayo, the leader of a cartel, the only reason why people are getting caught is because Trump has been twisting her arm hard to take action against the cartels. | ||
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baal
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On March 07 2026 18:38 Nebuchad wrote: You don't hurt cartels by getting a more rightwing government (obviously), you hurt cartels by legalizing drugs. Legalizing drugs work but so does brutal law enforcment like Bukele or Lee Kwan Yu did. Neither of these will happen since like I've stated before the cartels and the government are far too intertwined unless something drastic and unexpected happens. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17743 Posts
On March 08 2026 20:04 baal wrote: Legalizing drugs work but so does brutal law enforcment like Bukele or Lee Kwan Yu did. Neither of these will happen since like I've stated before the cartels and the government are far too intertwined unless something drastic and unexpected happens. Brutal law enforcement never worked out for anyone in the long run. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2341 Posts
On March 09 2026 12:08 Manit0u wrote: Brutal law enforcement never worked out for anyone in the long run. Tell that to San Salvator, who after martial law went from 100 per 100000 murder rate to "mere" 3 per 100000 in a decade. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17743 Posts
On March 09 2026 14:30 hitthat wrote: Tell that to San Salvator, who after martial law went from 100 per 100000 murder rate to "mere" 3 per 100000 in a decade. This is not a great example. You have failed country moved on to authoritarian government basically. Things like that don't work in normal democracies. | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1362 Posts
He, just like every other authoritarian boot licker worships Bukele who basically did what he accuses Mexican goverment of, made a deal with cartels: https://responsiblestatecraft.org/bukele-trump-gangs/ As usual, high level analysis from the top minds... | ||
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hitthat
Poland2341 Posts
On March 09 2026 17:58 Manit0u wrote: This is not a great example. You have failed country moved on to authoritarian government basically. Things like that don't work in normal democracies. You are completely right. The thing is, I consider Mexico a failed state if glorified street thugs are capable of intimidating gouvernment into compliance. Not that cleaning all mess is easy, thou. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17743 Posts
On March 10 2026 15:31 hitthat wrote: You are completely right. The thing is, I consider Mexico a failed state if glorified street thugs are capable of intimidating gouvernment into compliance. Not that cleaning all mess is easy, thou. In Mexico cartels control the government so it's no surprise it's not effective at fighting them. | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
On March 09 2026 17:58 Manit0u wrote: This is not a great example. You have failed country moved on to authoritarian government basically. Things like that don't work in normal democracies. Mexico isn't a normal democracy, it has the biggest criminal organizations in the world, an absurdly high murder rate, you can't drive inter-state roads at night, in half the country if you open a business the cartel will ask you for "rent" and if you don't pay they kill you, they kidnap young men with fake hiring-ads where they kill 80% of them in the recruiting process to the cartel, and I could go on and on. I wouldn't suggest mass imprisonment a-la-bukele and death squads to fight crime in Europe, but extreme circumstances require extreme measures. | ||
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baal
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On March 10 2026 00:24 Jankisa wrote: Singapore is a stupid, stupid example (just like most things Mr. "I hope for a terrorist attack" writes) as they never had a real organized crime problem. He, just like every other authoritarian boot licker worships Bukele who basically did what he accuses Mexican goverment of, made a deal with cartels: https://responsiblestatecraft.org/bukele-trump-gangs/ As usual, high level analysis from the top minds... Singapore was a drug den and Lee Kuan Yew turned it into prosperity through brutal law enforcement (to this date) that was in response to "brutal law enforcement has never worked". I'm such a boot licker because I want the state to actually enforce the law and not living under the terror the cartels bring to my country, how dare I... you are a clown. | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
On March 11 2026 05:49 Manit0u wrote: In Mexico cartels control the government so it's no surprise it's not effective at fighting them. It's more like the government controls the cartels, it sounds the same but the distinction is important. It's not like with Escobar where he bullied the government into fear and submission, in México since the 90s they've become closer and closer, and now they are essentially the same thing. | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1362 Posts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_Drugs_Act_(Singapore) Despite its close proximity to the major drug producing areas of the Golden Triangle, Singapore in the late 1960s had relatively little hard drug use, with an estimated 8,000 local opium addicts out of a total population of just over 2 million. The guy didn't like drugs and thought they make people unproductive, so he put in capital punishment for them, this is not unlike many other Asian countries at the time. This has nothing to do with it being drug den. Must be easy going through life just making stupid, stupid statements rooted in 0 evidence or thought, my country is fucked because its controlled by cartels, that's also why my country just killed one of the biggest cartel leaders. Nice logic you have there, you must be very smart! | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
On March 12 2026 01:31 Jankisa wrote: You are either extremely stupid or just completely brain rotten, perhaps, occasionally, Try to interact with facts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_Drugs_Act_(Singapore) The guy didn't like drugs and thought they make people unproductive, so he put in capital punishment for them, this is not unlike many other Asian countries at the TIME. This Has nothing to do with it being 123#Z#sc2-korean]Drug den. Ok How about we keep reading the article you posted. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/ndt9Ztz.png) LMAO | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
On March 12 2026 01:31 Jankisa wrote: Must be easy going through life just making stupid, stupid statements rooted in 0 evidence or thought, my country is fucked because its controlled by cartels, that's also why my country just killed one of the biggest cartel leaders. Nice logic you have there, you must be very smart! You don't have the slightest clue about Mexican politics why in the fuck would you have such an strong opinion to even contradict a local? I dont know why I waste my time with you since you clearly are not a rational person persuaded by evidence but here is article, the president today said that she didn't order the capture of el Mencho, and all of the comments point out how we all Mexicans know she didn't order the hit on one of her own. ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/2ad67e407595ea758d8e912c7d23a76b.png) | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1362 Posts
1. You are a proven liar (or, again, very dumb) as seen from the Singapore debacle 2. You are obviously an unstable and fucked up person who wishes for terrorist attacks 3. The same reason I don't believe MAGA Americans about what is happening in the USA, just like you, they are stupid, liars and brainwashed https://english.elpais.com/international/2026-03-06/el-mencho-operation-boosts-claudia-sheinbaums-approval-rating-but-insecurity-remains-the-primary-concern.html 70 % approval, but sure, I'll trust a weird incel wishing for terrorist attacks rather then polling. Also, how stupid and deceitful you are, the lady said she didn't give an explicit order because these are investigations spanning months, and this is your big proof that she's working with cartels, jeez, get help dude. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12451 Posts
On March 13 2026 21:31 Jankisa wrote: 70 % approval Lol I didn't think it would be this high but yeah that makes sense. | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
On March 13 2026 21:31 Jankisa wrote: I don't believe your moronic takes from you for a few reasons: 1. You are a proven liar (or, again, very dumb) as seen from the Singapore debacle 2. You are obviously an unstable and fucked up person who wishes for terrorist attacks 3. The same reason I don't believe MAGA Americans about what is happening in the USA, just like you, they are stupid, liars and brainwashed https://english.elpais.com/international/2026-03-06/el-mencho-operation-boosts-claudia-sheinbaums-approval-rating-but-insecurity-remains-the-primary-concern.html 70 % approval, but sure, I'll trust a weird incel wishing for terrorist attacks rather then polling. Also, how stupid and deceitful you are, the lady said she didn't give an explicit order because these are investigations spanning months, and this is your big proof that she's working with cartels, jeez, get help dude. An incel? lol wtf. Ok I just realized I'm very likely talking with a very young person and/or someone way too deep into some ideology, no need to engage any further. | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
On March 13 2026 22:35 Nebuchad wrote: Lol I didn't think it would be this high but yeah that makes sense. Yeah and Kim Jong Un has an approval rate of 100%, nobody dislikes him lol. Corrupt governments cook their numbers my friend, just look at harder-to-cook numbers like murders and even then since i believe mid 2025 this government started listing murders as "disappearances" to cook the numbers in there too. Her predecessor (Lopez) was quite popular when elected I believe around 65% but fell hard along his 6 year term. Sheinbaum isn't remotely as popular, unlike him she isn't charismatic at all, but he hand-picked her because she was the most loyal and controllable of the socialist party pre-candidates. The socialists had the election in their pocket since there was no opposition at all, the only potential opposition was the governor of my state and they killed him shooting down his helicopter with his entire family in it. The only other option was an upcoming politician who ran with a strong anti-cartel position and he also was killed like 6 months ago. | ||
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Nebuchad
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