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On March 03 2010 01:38 Ecael wrote:
That is actually meant to be a compliment, like I mentioned in my first post, I've always had a soft spot for Opera, which I had used more consistently than I had FF for the longest time. One of the main things that had me going for Chrome over Opera 10.1 was the simple and clean interface that Chrome had, so to see Opera adapt such a visual outlook is pretty awesome. That doesn't change the fact that both Opera and FF just ripped off that look after Chrome proved to be popular though.
This whole idea of 'ripping off' seems pretty stupid to me. If it improves a user's experience, shouldn't all browsers implement it? Its like saying "Oh yeah, the wheel is definitely helpful, but I think I'll just stick without it because I don't want to rip you off" (This isn't directed at you in particular, just at that attitude in general)
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Russian Federation410 Posts
Opera 10.50 is very fast, better than anything with the exception of bonestock Chrome 5.0.330, which gets significantly slowed down by adblock.
A bit of a worry though, my 10.50 Beta and Final keeps crashing on accessing Yahoo Mail and MSN (Live) Mail, (using a direct bookmark into my account with password in the wand).
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On March 03 2010 02:33 tec27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2010 01:38 Ecael wrote:
That is actually meant to be a compliment, like I mentioned in my first post, I've always had a soft spot for Opera, which I had used more consistently than I had FF for the longest time. One of the main things that had me going for Chrome over Opera 10.1 was the simple and clean interface that Chrome had, so to see Opera adapt such a visual outlook is pretty awesome. That doesn't change the fact that both Opera and FF just ripped off that look after Chrome proved to be popular though. This whole idea of 'ripping off' seems pretty stupid to me. If it improves a user's experience, shouldn't all browsers implement it? Its like saying "Oh yeah, the wheel is definitely helpful, but I think I'll just stick without it because I don't want to rip you off" (This isn't directed at you in particular, just at that attitude in general)
I feel like it is important to note that they had taken the innovation of another in order to improve the user experience. Just as Opera fans can claim that the idea of integrated search bar and speed dial homepage were ideas that Opera came up with, Chrome fans should also be able to point to the UI and say that Chrome led to that little graphical detail. There isn't really right or wrong here, but to properly attribute who the innovation originated from isn't a bad thing imo.
We could put it less offensively like...oh, Opera integrated the strengths of Chrome in the graphical UI, but why mask it when we all know that FF and Opera both scrambled to make their browsers look that way when Chrome became a hit?
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On March 03 2010 02:41 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2010 02:33 tec27 wrote:On March 03 2010 01:38 Ecael wrote:
That is actually meant to be a compliment, like I mentioned in my first post, I've always had a soft spot for Opera, which I had used more consistently than I had FF for the longest time. One of the main things that had me going for Chrome over Opera 10.1 was the simple and clean interface that Chrome had, so to see Opera adapt such a visual outlook is pretty awesome. That doesn't change the fact that both Opera and FF just ripped off that look after Chrome proved to be popular though. This whole idea of 'ripping off' seems pretty stupid to me. If it improves a user's experience, shouldn't all browsers implement it? Its like saying "Oh yeah, the wheel is definitely helpful, but I think I'll just stick without it because I don't want to rip you off" (This isn't directed at you in particular, just at that attitude in general) I feel like it is important to note that they had taken the innovation of another in order to improve the user experience. Just as Opera fans can claim that the idea of integrated search bar and speed dial homepage were ideas that Opera came up with, Chrome fans should also be able to point to the UI and say that Chrome led to that little graphical detail. There isn't really right or wrong here, but to properly attribute who the innovation originated from isn't a bad thing imo. We could put it less offensively like...oh, Opera integrated the strengths of Chrome in the graphical UI, but why mask it when we all know that FF and Opera both scrambled to make their browsers look that way when Chrome became a hit?
does it matter? with customizable UI of opera and firefox i always made it look like chrome even before chrome existed same for firefox i would reduce the menu to 1 button and remove as much crap as possible so it's pretty much just bookmarks, addressbar and tabs.
UI is hardly innovation people flock to what people like.
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I am thinking about leaving FF just for playing Ogame and Opera for the rest... thanks!
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I am running the Opera beta at work right now.
Work comp is pretty shitballs, a Dell 4300S upgraded to 512 of DDR1 (I think?) RAM. Fucking frowntown.
It loads things fast in the beta, without the Turbo option on as my network is not that slow to need it. Now remembering my work computer is mad shitballs, here are some notes I found.
-If I stream youtube, I get severe interface lag... prob from lack of RAM but noted for the 10.5 beta regardless.
-If I try to log into my Verizon e-mail, I just simply cannot click the Sign In button. Hitting Enter does nothing, and clicking the button just showing you clicking it, without it ever actually going through.
-Webpages load faster than with my old IE. Significantly.
-Sometimes, if I try to click an embedded video's play button, I won't be able to. Just need to scroll the video off the screen, then back to it, and it usually fixes that. Noticed that for quite a few Opera builds.... maybe Opera and Youtube aren't friends.
Overall, if you just wanna browse... try it. For sure.
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Thanks for this, I must confess my ignorance and say that without it I would have totally ignored Opera,
Just trying it now and first impressions are very good.
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anyone know how to import bookmarks? i might be retarded but i cant find it.
edit: I suppose it's the opera link that you sign up for. Mouse gestures included? See ya firefox!
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Using it now, speeddial is so good ;o
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Saw that they have private browsing now, so I switched back. Definitely the best browser IMO.
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Russian Federation410 Posts
To import bookmarks into Opera go to red Menu button on top left, Settings, Import and Export.
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Crappy pc means i'm interested in this.
But i need to know if it has anything similar (and as effective) to Adblock and Noscript, because there is no way i could back to surfing the web wothout those two add-ons.
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Definitely faster, but a little buggy. Titles in my "Appearance" tab are not showing up, and it froze on a couple websites (like hotmail). Hopefully this upgrade will prompt FF to get moving on the next update. Competition is great.
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I was wondering when this version would be out, I wanted to try it since I didn't like the other ones.
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On March 03 2010 03:19 CrimsonLotus wrote:
Crappy pc means i'm interested in this.
But i need to know if it has anything similar (and as effective) to Adblock and Noscript, because there is no way i could back to surfing the web wothout those two add-ons.
You can turn off Javascript and sounds and animations, you can also customize each page separately using Dragonfly using your own scripts and you can block things manually. No browser comes close to Noscript and Adblock on FF though.
On March 03 2010 03:07 bdams19 wrote:
anyone know how to import bookmarks? i might be retarded but i cant find it.
edit: I suppose it's the opera link that you sign up for. Mouse gestures included? See ya firefox!
Bookmarks>Manage Bookmarks>File>Import from browser X
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Best browser just got better.
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I didn't know Opera was so awesome. Do new tabs open next to the active tab? If so, I'll have to switch over from Safari. I especially like the low memory requirement. I usually have Photoshop, InDesign, itunes, word, etc open all at one, so that would definitely be a bonus.
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On March 03 2010 03:18 triangle wrote:
Does Opera have adblock?
If you right click on an "empty" bit of page, then click on 'Block Content', you can then select ads and it'll block the entire set.
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