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GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
February 10 2010 20:39 GMT
#41
On February 11 2010 02:26 Masamune wrote:
Show nested quote +
Canada versus the World
Canada didn't win a single gold medal when it hosted the 1976 Olympics in Montreal or the 1988 Games in Calgary. It could win a gold medal every day of these Olympics and the nation will still consider the 2010 Games a flop if it doesn't win gold in hockey. Canada didn't spend $6 billion to host the Olympics just to lose on home ice in its national pastime. -- Caple

true story

http://sports.espn.go.com/olympics/winter/2010/news/story?id=4901853
this was linked from google news


I would consider it a flop. There is only 1 medal I care about.
PiePie
Profile Joined February 2010
United States248 Posts
February 10 2010 20:43 GMT
#42
On February 10 2010 23:02 FortuneSyn wrote:
Oldest married couple in the world (85) is currently giving relationship advice on twitter. Good stuff.


Rofl my grandparents are older than that and they are married hahaha
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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 21:00:30
February 10 2010 20:53 GMT
#43
RIP Former Texas Rep. Charlie Wilson

Edit: whoops, just noticed the 2 day ban threat. Time to post more content.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2010/02/former-texas-congressman-charlie-wilson-dies-/1

To be honest, I've never heard of the guy until the movie "Charlie Wilson's War" came out, but judging from that, and from hearing that it's supposedly a realistic portrayal of his life, then he seemed like a great person, minus whatever scandals he faced (although I think that made him even more bad ass).
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
February 10 2010 20:54 GMT
#44
On February 11 2010 05:43 PiePie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 23:02 FortuneSyn wrote:
Oldest married couple in the world (85) is currently giving relationship advice on twitter. Good stuff.


Rofl my grandparents are older than that and they are married hahaha

Yeah, I definitely know there are older married couples than that. Maybe they mean that they've been married for 85 years, which would actually be really impressive.
Sight
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States148 Posts
February 10 2010 21:04 GMT
#45
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6194YM20100210

Nude dancing not ground for deportation, court rules

"Nude dancing is not necessarily a crime of "moral turpitude" warranting deportation, a divided federal appeals court ruled..."

Why on earth was it thought to be a grounds for deportation to begin with?
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
February 10 2010 21:17 GMT
#46
On February 10 2010 19:31 danl9rm wrote:
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On February 10 2010 18:47 Bosu wrote:
[image loading]

source: http://perezhilton.com/2010-02-09-kim-and-reggies-celebration-vacation

After helping the New Orleans Saints to victory in the Super Bowl, running back Reggie Bush and girlfriend Kim Kardashian plan to head out for a lovers' getaway.

Bush Tweeted that he wanted to go "somewhere relaxing and tropical with massages and spas everyday!" and Kim chimed in on her Twitter with the request of "jet skiing and snorkeling too."

Kim still sounds stunned about the Super Bowl saying:


"It was such a surreal feeling. I mean, this is the moment that Reggie's been waiting for his entire life, and it was just so cool to be there and be in the middle of it and run on the field! Like, everything you see in a movie, it's exactly what happened."

Sounds like Reggie could use some much needed relaxation and Kim is always up for a vacay!


Discuss

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I am personally very excited. I hope that Reggie proposes soon!


I'm so confused...
Are you serious? o.O


Rofl my thoughts exactly.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
February 11 2010 07:14 GMT
#47
http://neatorama.cachefly.net/money-happiness.htm


Karl Rabeder grew up poor and thought that life would be wonderful if he had money. But when he got rich, Karl discovered that he was unhappy … so he decided to give away every penny of his £3 million fortune:

"My idea is to have nothing left. Absolutely nothing," he told The Daily Telegraph. "Money is counterproductive – it prevents happiness to come."

Instead, he will move out of his luxury Alpine retreat into a small wooden hut in the mountains or a simple bedsit in Innsbruck.

His entire proceeds are going to charities he set up in Central and Latin America, but he will not even take a salary from these.

"For a long time I believed that more wealth and luxury automatically meant more happiness," he said. "I come from a very poor family where the rules were to work more to achieve more material things, and I applied this for many years," said Mr Rabeder.

But over time, he had another, conflicting feeling.

"More and more I heard the words: ‘Stop what you are doing now – all this luxury and consumerism – and start your real life’," he said. "I had the feeling I was working as a slave for things that I did not wish for or need. I have the feeling that there are lot of people doing the same thing."


I applaud this man
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
February 11 2010 07:58 GMT
#48
On February 10 2010 20:46 meathook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 18:47 Bosu wrote:
[image loading]

source: http://perezhilton.com/2010-02-09-kim-and-reggies-celebration-vacation

After helping the New Orleans Saints to victory in the Super Bowl, running back Reggie Bush and girlfriend Kim Kardashian plan to head out for a lovers' getaway.

Bush Tweeted that he wanted to go "somewhere relaxing and tropical with massages and spas everyday!" and Kim chimed in on her Twitter with the request of "jet skiing and snorkeling too."

Kim still sounds stunned about the Super Bowl saying:


"It was such a surreal feeling. I mean, this is the moment that Reggie's been waiting for his entire life, and it was just so cool to be there and be in the middle of it and run on the field! Like, everything you see in a movie, it's exactly what happened."

Sounds like Reggie could use some much needed relaxation and Kim is always up for a vacay!


Discuss

------

I am personally very excited. I hope that Reggie proposes soon!

Nah... can't keep a man like Reggie on a leech... he gots' to run free, like a mustang. Kim should be lucky for the time she got from him already. Don't push it, gurl.

LOL Reggie wants to go to the spa and get massages, while Kim is all about the jet skiing
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
February 11 2010 08:06 GMT
#49
On February 11 2010 05:43 PiePie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 23:02 FortuneSyn wrote:
Oldest married couple in the world (85) is currently giving relationship advice on twitter. Good stuff.


Rofl my grandparents are older than that and they are married hahaha



Maybe it means they've been married for 85 years.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 11 2010 10:22 GMT
#50
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7021033.ece

jjapanese wakakarsararayeay thingy

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Japanese murder exposes world of hired marriage wreckers
He was charming and single, she was bored and stuck in a sterile marriage, and their encounter in the aisles of a local supermarket seemed like a chance for them to change their lives for the better.

But the affair ended in betrayal, recrimination and death after a sequence of events as lurid as the plot of a pulp novel.

Prosecutors in Tokyo called yesterday for a 17-year sentence for Takeshi Kuwabara for murdering his lover, Rie Isohata, last year.

But the most extraordinary thing about the case was not the killing — by strangulation, after a bitter argument last April — but the circumstances in which the couple met.

Although Kuwabara inadvertently fell in love with Mrs Isohata, he had been paid to track her down and seduce her as a professional wakaresaseya — or “splitter upper” — hired by her husband to provide him with grounds for a divorce.

The case is raising questions about the ethics and legality of “splitter uppers” — shady, but seemingly widespread operatives to whom a surprising number of Japanese turn.

As Mrs Isohata’s father said during the trial: “I can never forgive a business that toys with the emotions of human beings.”

Wakaresaseya perform a variety of functions, but all of them arise from the Japanese dislike of direct confrontation. Rather than pleading with him face to face, a woman whose husband is having an affair may hire a splitter-upper to seduce his mistress away from him. Parents may engage their services to prise off the unsuitable lover of a son or daughter. Dozens of wakaresaseya companies advertise on the internet, under names such as Lady’s Secret Service and Office Shadow. They employ models, actors and personable people of different backgrounds first to trail and then to seduce their quarry. The classic wakaresaseya operation was the one commissioned by Mrs Isohata’s husband.

Kuwabara approached the 32-year-old mother in a supermarket in Tochigi Prefecture, north of Tokyo, in the guise of a chatty stranger, and asked her if she could recommend a place that sold good cheesecake.

Before long they were lovers. He used the false identity “Hajime” and made no mention of his own wife and children. By arrangement, a colleague photographed them covertly as they entered a “love hotel” where rooms are rented by the hour — and Mrs Isohata’s husband used this as evidence to divorce her in November 2007. By this time, however, she and Kuwabara were in love.

But when the truth came out in April 2009 the couple had a furious row and she announced that she was leaving him. It ended with her being strangled with a piece of household string. Kuwabara surrendered to the police that same night. “At the beginning, I thought of it as just a job,” he told the court. “But I came to really love her. I told lie after lie out of fear that she would hate me. I was driven into a corner. I still love her.”

Mrs Isohata’s father told reporters: “For the rest of my life, I will never forgive the defendant, or my daughter’s ex-husband who hired him, or the wakaresaseya business itself.

“This has devastated not just my daughter’s life, but those of my grandchildren and me.”

Parting shots
Wakaresaseya (pronounced Wack-Array-Sass-Sayer) are private detectives who bring to an end relationships of all kinds

As well as breaking up couples, entrapping someone into an affair can be useful to an employer who wants to secure the “resignation” of an employee or a businessman seeking “favourable terms”

Five years ago there were about a dozen companies, but there are now many more on the internet. The industry relies upon the power of shame and is unregulated

Cost is a question of time and complexity. An initial consultation might be Y10,000 (£71), but the average case takes three months and costs can easily mount

The wakaresaseya say that men are the easiest targets. “They never seem to smell a rat when, despite the fact they’re middle-aged, a beautiful young woman falls for them,” one said



fake name = HAJIME?

IS THAT U HAJI??????
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RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
February 15 2010 06:38 GMT
#51
Kind of defeats the purpose of a discussion forum when every little thing has a thread dedicated to it and is not allowed outside of it. Why can't an outrageous news story have a thread to talk about it without clutter from everything else?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 09:48:36
February 15 2010 09:45 GMT
#52
Because there is nothing to discuss about when the OP just has one copy and paste paragraph and a link. It also discourages people from actually writing good OPs for an interesting topic if another nerd just copys the story over to be the first to make a thread. And threads with good OPs are just always better than those with one liner openings.
The purpose of this initiative is not to ban threads about current events, but to encourage better OPs and thus better threads.

So, write up a decent OP with composed text > copied text and the thread will live and generate discussion.

Edit: Just compare the links I posted in the OP to this one:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93135

The original post sets the tone and quality of the discussion.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
February 15 2010 10:04 GMT
#53
A thoughtful and well written OP is nice, but I don't think it's necessary. People can form their own opinions and read articles themselves.

Maybe you are being facetious, but a single thread for all random world news seems like it would eliminate ALL discussion by drowning out each story.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
February 15 2010 10:24 GMT
#54
Yes they can, but they don't. A good OP is absolutely essential. Additionally to what I posted above, a good OP also makes moderation way more effective. If people spam stupid shit on to a well written OP you can be sure they will be punished for it and the thread will be kept sane. But there isn't much reason to moderate shitty posting if the OP and follow op posts are terrible anyway.

If a topic is not worth writing a good opening post about it's most probably not worth it's own thread.
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 15 2010 10:29 GMT
#55
On February 15 2010 19:04 LxRogue wrote:
A thoughtful and well written OP is nice, but I don't think it's necessary. People can form their own opinions and read articles themselves.

Maybe you are being facetious, but a single thread for all random world news seems like it would eliminate ALL discussion by drowning out each story.

You think there is any discussion going on in most of these threads? Really?
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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
February 15 2010 14:40 GMT
#56
On February 10 2010 23:02 FortuneSyn wrote:
Oldest married couple in the world (85) is currently giving relationship advice on twitter. Good stuff.

cw)minsean(ru
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
February 15 2010 14:56 GMT
#57
"Tödliche Schüsse in Frankfurt am Main: Ein 37 Jahre alter Mann ist im Hof eines Supermarkts getötet worden. Wenig später wurde in einer Tiefgarage ein Tatverdächtiger festgenommen."

A 37 year-old man was killed near a Turkish supermarket in Frankfurt am Main by a 40 year-old Turk. It's unclear how many others participated in the shooting as the suspect was arrested in a parking lot somewhere.

Comment: Some of the unpleasant effects of racial balkanization seen in the United States are being replicated on German soil. Such problems are likely to get worse in the future.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-16 01:36:40
February 15 2010 23:19 GMT
#58
On February 15 2010 23:56 MoltkeWarding wrote:
"Tödliche Schüsse in Frankfurt am Main: Ein 37 Jahre alter Mann ist im Hof eines Supermarkts getötet worden. Wenig später wurde in einer Tiefgarage ein Tatverdächtiger festgenommen."

A 37 year-old man was killed near a Turkish supermarket in Frankfurt am Main by a 40 year-old Turk. It's unclear how many others participated in the shooting as the suspect was arrested in a parking lot somewhere.

Comment: Some of the unpleasant effects of racial balkanization seen in the United States are being replicated on German soil. Such problems are likely to get worse in the future.

Kind of on topic - in some places it already happened and things are on a good way of getting better by now, example being the Rütli School
I read about in Polish magazine like a week ago. It's not really outrageous lol but it's good to read about something related to eductaion other than another shooting.

Berlin has been closing down many Hauptschulen and replaced them with comprehensives. In 2006 only 4% of all Berlin students attended a Hauptschule[4] and those who did often suffered from learning difficulties or have emotional special needs. Many students graduating from a Hauptschule in Berlin were functionally illiterate, innumerate or both. They faced small chances to find qualified work or begin an apprenticeship. In 2010-11 Hauptschulen were formally abolished in Berlin. They were merged with Realschulen and Gesamtschulen to form a new type of comprehensive school called Sekundarschule in Hamburg and Stadteilschule in Berlin (see: Education in Berlin).

Debate about school violence
In 2006 teachers of the Rütli school wrote a letter to the senate office demanding the school to be closed down. The letter stated:

We must realize that the mood in some classes currently is marked by aggressiveness, disrespect, and ignorance towards adults … The tendency toward violence against property is growing … In most of the families of our students, they are the only ones getting up in the morning. For them, school is a stage and battleground for attention. The worst culprits become role models[5]
Teachers were quoted saying that their students "turn up without pens or books. [...] They fight, they set off fireworks, they kick in doors. There’s no point in trying to teach. If you hang up a poster, they tear it down."[6] The letter sparked a debate about school violence and the integration of immigrants.

Maybe some English journalist got interested and wrote about but I can't find it atm so...
Some weeks later retired former owner of a construction company Ahmed al-Sadi arrives to school and, as a volunteer, steadily starts to pwn the situation since the day 1. He starts from gathering parents and telling them (in Arabic) the story of his shadowed by a war childhood and overall migrant life.

Few months later retired middle school principal Klaus Lehnert arrives to help in making 25 million euro "Campus Rutli" project come true.

More from him:
http://www.campusruetli.de/dokumente/start/pilot_project.pdf
"Pilot Project Campus Rütli – CR2 in the education landscape of Reuterquartier
Integration through education in a troubled neighbourhood"
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
February 18 2010 18:25 GMT
#59
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2010/0218/Pakistan-arrests-more-Afghan-Taliban.-Why-the-about-face

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By Ben Arnoldy Staff writer
posted February 18, 2010 at 12:06 pm EST
New Delhi —

Pakistan has reportedly detained two more top Afghan Taliban commanders, building on its arrest of the Taliban's No. 2 man, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, earlier this month. The latest arrests offer further evidence that Islamabad has decided to seriously pressure Afghan insurgents inside its borders.

The question is: Why now? Pakistan weathered years of American pressure to take this step. But only last week did it capture Mr. Baradar in a joint operation with the US. In recent days, it nabbed Mullah Abdul Salam and Mullah Mir Mohammad, both “shadow governors” of northern Afghan provinces. Overnight, it arrested eight or nine militants in Karachi linked to Al Qaeda, wire reports said Thursday.

Details are emerging that Pakistan feared losing influence within peace overtures between the United States and the Afghan Taliban. It may have nabbed Baradar so it would control the strongest potential peace negotiator, while currying US favor with its multiple arrests. But experts on the Taliban are divided over whether the country's recent intervention has moved Islamabad to the center of peace talks – or scuttled them entirely.

"There were reports that Mullah Baradar had been in covert contact with the Americans, and that may not have gone down well with certain people in Pakistan," says Rustam Shah Mohmand, a former Pakistani ambassador to Afghanistan now based in Peshawar. "The Taliban's trust of the Pakistani government is now absolutely finished [and] the prospects for any negotiations are now completely dim."
Islamabad’s influence

Others are not so sure that Pakistan has committed such an unforgivable offense in the eyes of the Taliban. The insurgent group – which was created decades ago with Pakistani support and now uses Pakistan as a haven – has no other protector to fall back on, says Khalid Pashtoon, a member of the Afghan Parliament from Kandahar.
Pakistan's powerful spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), presents two faces to the Taliban, he says. One faction claims to be friendly with the insurgency, the other friendly to the US.

The Taliban "have to live with a two-faced policy, they don't have a third alternative," says Mr. Pashtoon. "They cooperate because they figure, 'We have to work with the friendly side of the ISI or they will inform on us to the unfriendly side, who will be after us.' "
Baradar: Pulling away from Pakistan

There are also indications that Baradar tried to carve out greater Taliban independence over the years, most recently by attempting to open peace talks with Afghanistan without Islamabad’s knowledge.

Baradar is widely considered a "moderate" who instituted a code of conduct for Taliban foot soldiers last year that called for limiting suicide attacks to avoid alienating the population. According to Pashtoon, Baradar met with current Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai in late 2001 and continued to send messages over the years expressing a desire to negotiate – but that other Taliban leaders disagreed. Rumors are circulating, says Pashtoon, that Baradar himself went to Kabul in recent months, outside Pakistani channels.

As the operational chief for the Taliban, Baradar also worked hard to extricate the insurgency from reliance on Pakistani support, says Wahid Mujda, a former Taliban member who now monitors the group from Kabul. After the Taliban's ouster from Afghanistan in 2001, Baradar attempted to rebuild the movement around men not known to be close with Pakistan and sought funding inside Afghanistan rather than in Pakistan.

"He tried to search for financial sources inside Afghanistan. He made some relations with circles inside Iran," says Mr. Mujda. "His activities inside the Taliban movement were not to the benefit of the Pakistanis."
Pressure from the US

Meanwhile, Pakistan has faced increasing pressure from the Americans to move against the Afghan Taliban – particularly after a US drone attacks killed two successive chiefs of a Taliban faction fighting the Pakistani Army. (Some Taliban members continue to deny the death of the second leader, Hakimullah Mehsud.) Pakistan may have seen arresting Baradar and others as a chance not only to stop Taliban efforts to work around it but also to deepen US-Pakistan ties.

Taliban websites have been quiet about Baradar's capture, says Mujda. "That means that they don't want to say anything against Pakistan," he says, suggesting that the Taliban still fear them – maybe more now than ever.
An honest broker, tainted?

But Mohmand doubts such fear could be used at this point by Pakistan to broker a peace deal. Trust is gone, and few potential peace partners of Baradar’s stature remain within the Taliban. While some analysts have suggested Baradar could be turned – or had possibly agreed to be captured so he could broker talks – Mohmand says he's damaged goods.

"The captive would have to speak the language of the captors. No one will pay any heed to what Mullah Baradar will say now. He, as a mediator, as a broker, is totally finished," says Mohmand. "Now I think both sides will have to really fight it out."
So it's a lot more complicated than we thought. I wondered why the ISS had turned against a partner and I guess this gives some possible insight, or maybe it just makes things murkier. I'm also curious why he was in Karachi of all places. It's like the heart of Westernization there.

No idea if this helps or hurts negotiations at this point.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
February 18 2010 18:49 GMT
#60
On February 15 2010 19:24 zatic wrote:
Yes they can, but they don't. A good OP is absolutely essential. Additionally to what I posted above, a good OP also makes moderation way more effective. If people spam stupid shit on to a well written OP you can be sure they will be punished for it and the thread will be kept sane. But there isn't much reason to moderate shitty posting if the OP and follow op posts are terrible anyway.

If a topic is not worth writing a good opening post about it's most probably not worth it's own thread.

I'd take this a bit more seriously if my previous experience in this forum wasn't so contradictory.

An awful OP was begun on a topic I cared about:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=110235

I recognized it for a bad OP that would generate bad discussion, so I made my own topic, putting effort into making it as unbiased and informative as possible, to generate good discussion:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=110299

Result? My thread gets closed, thread with terrible OP gets to stay.
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