EPTReally, I don't get why all the nerdrage over some silly announcement, one would imagine Steve Jobs himself was forcing it down their throats.
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
Really, I don't get why all the nerdrage over some silly announcement, one would imagine Steve Jobs himself was forcing it down their throats. | ||
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Armathai
1023 Posts
On January 28 2010 05:03 CharlieMurphy wrote: Apple shit sucks and is overpriced. At least they are consistent. Touch screen stuff is the worst gimmick since getting a coupon for a free drink when you buy fries and a burger. This. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
its cool though | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
This iPad looks like a joke tbh. | ||
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win8282
Korea (South)454 Posts
Netbook > iPad ($700 for 64gb????!! I understand its SSD, but still...) Laptop >>>> iPad That said, and like others have said, iPad will sell so well... damnit, shoulda bought Apple stocks a month ago  | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
On January 28 2010 05:46 IntoTheWow wrote: It's more than just an iPod touch that won't fit in your pocket...it's also an underpowered netbook with no keyboard. It's the worst of both worlds! It actually has a robust power source; it is powered almost entirely by the user's sense of self-importance. Right on the money. | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
haha, how did i miss this great comment  | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
This product is freaking terrible, an oversized iPod that's as big as a NetBook but with less capabilities. If you already own an iPod or an iPhone and own a laptop, this product will not do anything the former two already do. | ||
Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
On January 28 2010 16:10 VManOfMana wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 28 2010 14:16 Loser777 wrote: I think you are trolling us, VManOfMana. You claim to be a "software geek". Software geeks are not blind to horrendous flaws in any device. Have you heard of something called a netbook? It's something along the lines of $200 with more than triple the storage and a processor that actually runs software. 140,000 apps? How many do you think have been developed for windows? It doesn't try to fill the role of a computer. With a 9.7" screen? Seriously, what are you going to do, throw it in your backpack before you go to the library? I guess you can't do that with a laptop, wait. Tell me, what market is this device targeting? Those who want to read books on the go and watch movies? The screen isn't any more suitable for book reading than a laptop is, and it doesn't even support 1080p video. You probably haven't even seen the comparison charts that have been floating around. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3821/1264647713023.png) Not really. I am just trying to explain the reasons why I see myself as a potential iPad owner. Obviously I don't see things the same as most people here. But the fact you don't agree doesn't mean I am trolling. At 9.7" I doubt many people will notice the difference between 720 and 1080p. Besides, if I want to watch 1080p, I'll certainly won't do it at less than 24". I have heard of netbooks. Tried them. Don't like them. To me, they are just a shrinked version of computers I don't like using in the first place. I have never felt comfortable working on Windows. No matter how fast the computer is, I find the OS to be cumbersome and annoying to use. Its little things here and there, but it builds up. You put that together in a smaller screen and a smaller keyboard and touchpad, and it gets worse (especially with my big hands). They do the job for some people, but not for me. What I am looking for is not a portable computer, but a satellite of my computer. Something that I can use short-term, on-the-go, with data synced from my main computer. This is the market the iPad is going for. So yeah, the main competition is netbooks. The twist here, is that unlike netbooks, Apple has a different approach than further shrinking a laptop. Being a "software geek" means that to me, specs are a secondary factor. I don't care for the capabilities of the system or how many things it can do as much as: 1. *how* it lets me do it. 2. it does what I want it to do It just happens that in terms of software design, Apple does things in such a way I feel comfortably working with. That is something I discovered with my mother's iMac, after my years of OS/2 and Windows. Thats why I don't find the comparison sheet too relevant. The only things that I care for in that list are: * resolution, but I'd consider the screen size and DPI to be more important. * OS, I actually liked many design elements of the modified iPhone OS. There are drawbacks (mainly multitasking) but not much of an issue consider what I would use an iPad for. Multitouch is used more extensively than the iPhone, not limiting your fingers to be a replacement of a mouse. This is a good thing. * Weight/physical size. They affect how easy it is to carry. I don't go to school anymore so I seldom carry a backpack when I am not at work. * Wifi, well, I need to connect to the internet. As of the rest: * I dont care for CPU and memory as long as they can carry the OS and applications. I don't even remember the speed and memory on my laptop. * storage, considering I am looking for a satellite of my main computer, I only need to put the data I will use short term. Certainly less than 250 GB. * bluetooth, rarely use it * USB ports, convenient but I don't find them essential, since syncing will be the main form of data sharing * Audio/video: I rarely watch fansubs (MKV, etc) anymore. For everything else there is AAC, Apple Lossless and H.264. If needed I can fallback to using Handbrake. * Price: I actually don't mind dishing the extra money for something I like that much better. I did it on the iPhone, I did it on the MBP. For me, the OS and convenience are the most valuable things I can buy. Not the hardware specs. Yes most of this is subjective, but to each their own. By the way, I doubt I would get an iPad if I was still in college. Spoilered the quote so this post isn't huge. With regards to apple and the quality of their software over ms software, their 3rd party apps over windows 3rd party apps, why I use their computers, and etc., I can't agree more. I feel very much the same about OSX vs windows. And I can even appreciate the satellite potentiality of a tablet PC, I just wish the OS wasn't so restrictive on the iPad. I can think of a whole bunch of ways I could use an iPad as a satellite peripheral to a home network or something, but when I imagine using them with the iPad OS I can see it being frustrating. Or if it could do something to make me use it as a sketchpad (Read: Pen) for sketching out ideas, brainstorming etc when going through the creative process. I think what would be awesome is if they used the same paradigm they use with OSX. OSX is at its core unix, as has been brought up a few times in the thread. It hides all of that from you with various layers of abstractions, but it doesn't stop you from going all the way down to unix if you want to. Allowing you to override, change, augment the abstractions they provide. From my (admittedly fairly limited knowledge, please correct me if I'm wrong) knowledge of the iPhone/iPad OS you don't get to go deep, all you get to do is install and run the apps. Which I feel is quite limiting. So where normally the argument, "Mac treats you like a child" is unfounded, in this case it seems to be fairly accurate. Maybe these problems could be solved if it's hacked, who knows. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14894 Posts
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
So what is flash useful for? Besides watching streamed pornos and some cute games? (and I guess streamed sc too but oh well). Apple does not develop most of the things you see in the app store, so saying they're forcing people to use their apps is ridiculous, (not like microsoft does any differently). You can still watch youtube on the iphone, I imagine you can watch it on this gadget too. The iphone is the best handheld for developers. Blackberry or Palm simply don't have a way for programmers to make applications and distribute them. Even if apple is fucking up really bad with appstore and making it very difficult for programmers to release constant version updates; there is no alternative for developers. It's basically a monopoly, fragile, but present. The lack of a usb drive is not an issue. I mean I can imagine the horror at not being able to connect a laser-precision mouse to play your mmorpgs or whatever. But this is not meant to play games. External hard drives and shit shouldn't be needed because this isn't a server or a workstation. Even then, there are bluetooth hard drives, memory sticks, keyboards and mice, particularly from apple. Comparing it to a netbook is a little far fetched because of the touch screen, rather compare it to a tablet PC (which are pretty damn expensive), though i don't know if you can write on it without fucking up the screen. It is also faster than most netbooks. And well, in design it isn't even a contest. Apple has never been bested in this area. | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 28 2010 21:50 illu wrote: After reading all of these I decided that the iPAD is a piece of shit (what is next? iTAMPON?). I am starting to think some people here are hired by Microsoft to do this. Give in to the Courier. | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On January 28 2010 04:20 s.a.y wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oRffH.jpg) The irony is that setup would allow you to do 4 things at once! That's the real dealbreaker. Who wants a laptop that can only do 1 thing at a time? | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 28 2010 23:54 Cloud wrote: Fair enough, except Apple has jumped on the gaming bandwagon and constantly derides its competitors for not offering the same gaming experience, including Nintendo of all companies. BTW, Well I guess it shouldn't be surprising to find nothing but outright hostility in a forum filled mostly with people that only use the computer to play videogames Hard keyboard + gaming = win. So what is flash useful for? Besides watching streamed pornos and some cute games? (and I guess streamed sc too but oh well). Apple does not develop most of the things you see in the app store, so saying they're forcing people to use their apps is ridiculous, (not like microsoft does any differently). Uh... yes it does. Microsoft allows open access to anything you want to put on their devices. WinMo has plenty of problems, but restricting what apps you can install is not one of them. Nobody else treats the enduser like a renter the way Apple does. Apple has complete control over what you're allowed to install, on an untampered device.The iphone is the best handheld for developers. Blackberry or Palm simply don't have a way for programmers to make applications and distribute them. Even if apple is fucking up really bad with appstore and making it very difficult for programmers to release constant version updates; there is no alternative for developers. It's basically a monopoly, fragile, but present. RIM has handled it better with paid apps, and hopefully Palms new SDK will be good, but you're pretty much right. The App Store is what sets Apple apart, and it's currently the best place for devs to make money. This is the software industry, though, and it can change very quickly.The lack of a usb drive is not an issue. I mean I can imagine the horror at not being able to connect a laser-precision mouse to play your mmorpgs or whatever. But this is not meant to play games. External hard drives and shit shouldn't be needed because this isn't a server or a workstation. Even then, there are bluetooth hard drives, memory sticks, keyboards and mice, particularly from apple. Uh... do you seriously not keep data on memory sticks? It's way more convenient than emailing files back and forth, especially large ones, not to mention there's a lot of useful USB functions besides just mice. It is also faster than most netbooks. True, but again, the device is throttled by the OS, not the hardware. And well, in design it isn't even a contest. Apple has never been bested in this area. It's a big ass ugly beveled pad. I imagine typing on this thing is a pain in the ass. iPhone is quite good because it's handheld, but how can you seriously keep this thing in your hand for more than 15+ minutes? It's fairly large, and you have to have the dock or set it down to type on it. This is the Dell Mini 5 tablet. ![[image loading]](http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/m01m01282010-3.jpg) Does the iPad really look prettier to you? | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
I've been sold already since they announced it, now show me an actual product. Uh... do you seriously not keep data on memory sticks? It's way more convenient than emailing files back and forth, especially large ones, not to mention there's a lot of useful USB functions besides just mice. To be fair, if iPad gets enough traction, we'll probably see cloud storage like Dropbox releasing software for it, no? | ||
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artofmagic
United States1951 Posts
On January 28 2010 21:57 Cloud wrote: If only apple fixed the app store and stopped third partying software, I would buy them without a second thought. Now I'm waiting for an iphone-sized developing gadget. Really, I don't get why all the nerdrage over some silly announcement, one would imagine Steve Jobs himself was forcing it down their throats. stopping third party software? those apps are what make app store such a success, not to mention the iphone.. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On January 29 2010 00:27 artofmagic wrote: stopping third party software? those apps are what make app store such a success, not to mention the iphone.. I meant that apple should stop acting as a third party (or intermediary) between developer and user. Just like they do with a record label and a guy that wants to buy music. | ||
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