Pokemon request!

On January 23 2010 06:38 D10 wrote:
Common really ? Cant you have nostalgia about Yuyu hakusho, DBZ, digimon or w/e ? I has to be the most lame show ever.

On January 23 2010 06:40 Rufio wrote:
I never played pokemon. I had transformers when I was a kid in the 80s.

On January 23 2010 06:43 Shatter wrote:
Best pokemon.

You are kidding. Its base stats are extremely poor, has very bad type combation, and has no real good moves.

On January 23 2010 06:54 Shatter wrote:


I know. Was talking about coolness factor. :D

On January 23 2010 07:05 Hurricane wrote:
If you are afraid of the ban hammer then use proper spelling and grammar...

On January 23 2010 06:51 illu wrote:


This pic is a disgrace to Dragonite.



You are kidding. Its base stats are extremely poor, has very bad type combation, and has no real good moves.

On January 23 2010 07:19 alphafuzard wrote:

hahaha this cracks me up

On January 23 2010 07:21 selboN wrote:

Meowth

On April 02 2010 06:52 Jyvblamo wrote:
Horrible bump there, but here is the best Pokemon picture of all time:

On April 02 2010 06:52 Jyvblamo wrote:
Horrible bump there, but here is the best Pokemon picture of all time:

On April 02 2010 08:08 Slow Motion wrote:
Bulbasaur's skeleton, from the website I posted above.

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On April 02 2010 06:52 Jyvblamo wrote:
Horrible bump there, but here is the best Pokemon picture of all time:

On April 02 2010 10:59 konadora wrote:

fucking epic.

btw, anyone has a higher res (at least 1440x900) of that dragonite wallpaper in the OP? it's retardedly cute lol

On April 02 2010 07:41 semantics wrote:
All this pokemon makes me want to get heartgold or w.e i haven't touched pokemon sense i bought 2 gameboys red and blue and played them both to 151 pokemon lol my poor childhood.

On April 02 2010 11:32 LosingID8 wrote:

what is this about, i only watched a couple eps of the original pokemon seasons

On April 02 2010 11:31 SoMuchBetter wrote:
my contribution. two awesome pictures and a wallpaper

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On April 02 2010 08:10 lolaloc wrote:

I want something like this for the other 150.

On January 23 2010 06:51 illu wrote:
You are kidding. Its base stats are extremely poor, has very bad type combation, and has no real good moves.

On April 03 2010 00:41 Purind wrote:
Wow, some of these badass Ash pics make Pokemon look like a serious anime



Awwww, my fav <3

On April 03 2010 00:50 haster27 wrote:

Pokemon is anime?

On April 03 2010 00:18 lolaloc wrote:
494 Pokemans and counting!
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On January 22 2010 19:29 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Okay guys, I'm pretty sure you all played pokemon when it was cool ...

On April 03 2010 00:59 Navi wrote:
lol its animated
and from japan...

thus, anime.

"cartoons" are just anime from the west, and "anime" is just cartoons from Japan afaik. both are often based on graphic novels (manga for japan, superhero cartoons etc. from america for example), and are animated in the real sense of the word.

On April 03 2010 03:39 semantics wrote:
O should stop posting in this thread before i run to bestbuy and buy the newest pokemon

On April 03 2010 03:35 synapse wrote:


Not a chance. TV-series is arguable both ways, but the pokemon games can be very competitive.

On April 03 2010 08:51 KinosJourney2 wrote:


The pokemon games was competative, yes. But so are the digimon games, and they have more diverse gameplay.

You should try out Digimon World 3, amazing RPG game (not the only good one though!).

On April 03 2010 08:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I don't see how anyone can say P > D anime though. Digimon Adventures 01-02 were great :3

On April 06 2010 06:00 Zoler wrote:
Pokemon is the shit seriously, I wish they would make some kind of MMO / RPG.

On April 06 2010 06:00 Zoler wrote:
Pokemon is the shit seriously, I wish they would make some kind of MMO / RPG.

On April 06 2010 06:01 HazMat wrote:

Every pokemon game is an rpg.

On April 06 2010 06:01 FyRe_DragOn wrote:


id fucking buy that holy shit

On April 03 2010 08:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


Pokemon games > Digimon games by far, though I did enjoy Digimon World 1 and 3. I don't think I ever beat 1, that shit's hard =(

I don't see how anyone can say P > D anime though. Digimon Adventures 01-02 were great :3

On April 06 2010 06:03 Zoler wrote:


Yeah, me and my friends have talked about this a lot of times seriously, either Nintendo is retarded or they are working on it

On April 06 2010 06:02 Zoler wrote:


I'm talking about a fucking good one, for PC.

On April 06 2010 06:54 FyRe_DragOn wrote:


well nintendo dont traditionally like to release games for platforms that they did not also create afaik hopefully they can bring themselves to change this policy sometime

On April 06 2010 06:56 Two_DoWn wrote:

I'm dying for them to release a full game, every pokemon, every continent, every everything, without level limits for pc. It would be amazing.

On April 06 2010 06:54 FyRe_DragOn wrote:


well nintendo dont traditionally like to release games for platforms that they did not also create afaik hopefully they can bring themselves to change this policy sometime

On April 07 2010 04:33 Mystlord wrote:
I never really make it a point to save any Pokemon pic that I come across... That said I do save epic potential desktop wallpapers, so here's the paltry collection that I have

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On April 03 2010 08:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


Pokemon games > Digimon games by far, though I did enjoy Digimon World 1 and 3. I don't think I ever beat 1, that shit's hard =(

I don't see how anyone can say P > D anime though. Digimon Adventures 01-02 were great :3

On January 23 2010 06:51 illu wrote:


This pic is a disgrace to Dragonite.



You are kidding. Its base stats are extremely poor, has very bad type combation, and has no real good moves.

On April 07 2010 15:14 dangots0ul wrote:


not to mention it takes like 12312038109283124791287 exp to lvl from lvl 1 --> 2

On April 02 2010 22:26 ibanez wrote:


I beg to differ.
Scyther has a high attack and speed stat, making it an awesome physical sweeper. True, its typing could be better but who complains when a Jolly-Life Orb-Technician +1 Swords Danced Quick Attack destroys most of the UU tier?

study some pokemans dude

On April 07 2010 15:48 PanoRaMa wrote:


Yeah seriously I can't believe that guy, clearly he never played the TCG.

Fossil Scyther is a base pokemon with 70hp and free retreat, with 2nd-turn 30dmg capabilities off of any energy type. Holy jesus.

On April 07 2010 15:58 lolaloc wrote:
Thread title should be changed to "This is why Pokemon is awesome!"

EDIT: Currently playing HeartGold. I am about to face Red with my team (Latias, Metagross, Celebi, Heatran, Dragonite, Tyranitar)

On April 03 2010 08:51 KinosJourney2 wrote:


The pokemon games was competative, yes. But so are the digimon games, and they have more diverse gameplay.

You should try out Digimon World 3, amazing RPG game (not the only good one though!).

On April 07 2010 14:23 semantics wrote:

you obv didn't see the desktop thread i saw a pic in here and made it to my wall paper becuase it fits so well

source

On April 07 2010 16:20 Mystlord wrote:

I don't like boring images for wallpapers :3 White for 95% of the image? No thx.

On April 07 2010 16:19 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:

Man, I bought the Digimon card game... its not even a game. So shitty.

On April 07 2010 15:48 PanoRaMa wrote:


Yeah seriously I can't believe that guy, clearly he never played the TCG.

Fossil Scyther is a base pokemon with 70hp and free retreat, with 2nd-turn 30dmg capabilities off of any energy type. Holy jesus.

On April 07 2010 17:06 KinosJourney2 wrote:


I know, i didn't say the cards was good but the videogames

On April 07 2010 18:22 lolaloc wrote:
Scyther is in UU tier because his evolved form, Scizor, is just much better and he's on OU. When you take into account the fact that it boasts a whopping 10 resistances with only 1 weakness, it's easy to see why Scizor has jumped to the top of the usage stats as the number 1 tank in the metagame. It is capable of revenge killing, scouting, or even sweeping teams after a Swords Dance boost, and its utility makes it easy to drop into pretty much any team.

On April 07 2010 18:22 lolaloc wrote:
Scyther is in UU tier because his evolved form, Scizor, is just much better and he's on OU. When you take into account the fact that it boasts a whopping 10 resistances with only 1 weakness, it's easy to see why Scizor has jumped to the top of the usage stats as the number 1 tank in the metagame. It is capable of revenge killing, scouting, or even sweeping teams after a Swords Dance boost, and its utility makes it easy to drop into pretty much any team.

On April 07 2010 18:32 Atrioc wrote:


lol did you just copy this straight from smogon

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/scizor

On April 07 2010 19:35 Ftrunkz wrote:
What's with all this UU/OU stuff exactly? Do people play games where only certain pokemon are allowed on teams or something?

On April 07 2010 21:22 konadora wrote:

something is terribly wrong here

On April 07 2010 21:22 konadora wrote:

something is terribly wrong here

On April 07 2010 17:50 haley wrote:


In regards to ibanez's post, UU tier stands for under-used tier. So you can't conclude that illu needs to study more "pokemans" simply from his post. Scyther is in UU 'cause he is not good enough to be in OU tier (Over Used tier).

And in regards to PanoRaMa's post:
The Scyther you are referring to is not in the Fossil set, but in the Jungle set. If you played competitive Pokemon TCG, you would know they use Modified rules which bans those sets and older sets. And you would also know that if an exception was made for Jungle Scyther, that card is still not very good in competitive play.

No need for you two to put strawman arguments up to jump on illu (saying Scyther is good in Under Used (UU) tier doesn't negate the opinion that Scyther sucks and saying Scyther from an old and outdated set is good, which he isn't in today's competitive metagame, does not negate the opinion that Scyther sucks in game.)

But Scyther does indeed look at a badass.

Edit: I just realized that Jungle Scyther was reprinted in Platinum set (thus making it legal in Modified.) But he still isn't that great in current competitive TCG metagame.

On April 07 2010 16:20 Mystlord wrote:

I don't like boring images for wallpapers :3 White for 95% of the image? No thx.

On April 07 2010 23:10 PanoRaMa wrote:


Yeah Jungle, that was a typo. Forgive me it's been years.

Stopped playing competitively before Neo tbh, so I don't know much about the modified rules. Prior to that I'd think it's hard to argue Scyther wasn't the most versatile pokemon. No rules on retreating prior to modified, btw. It was also when you could stack 4 pluspowers and 2nd hit ko a 70hp base starter. Resis to fighting which pretty much killed the viability of Hitmonchan, weakness to fire but there were very few fire archetypes back then.

I don't even know why I'm talking so much about Scyther, things just happen like that somehow I guess - best pokemon ever, clearly. Either way, I was/am just geeking out intentionally/being sarcastic and I think ibanez was too, so no need to get too serious about it. It's a pokemans thread, after all .

On April 07 2010 16:40 Jack_Acer75 wrote:
Ok, first off, was I the only one in Red and Blue that actually would buy the magikarp from the salesman before going into mount moon just so I could get a gyrados faster? haha
?

On April 08 2010 00:20 haley wrote:

Yeah, the metagame (the rules, too) have changed drastically since then. Also, the newer Pokemon cards are much more powerful while the trainer cards are much less "haxed" (it's mostly the old Trainer cards working with the new Trainer cards that killed competitive play for Pokemon TCG and that's why Pokemon Organized Play adopted the Modified rules for official tournaments).

Current metagame is rampant with low energy decks that are super fast (some decks have as low as 4 basic energy cards and 2 special energy cards). Most viable Pokemon in competitive TCG are those who are "fast" (i.e. power up really fast with very few energy) or help you set up quickly. Scyther needs 3 energy before he can attack (which means 3 turns since Double Colorless Energy was taken out and won't come back till the HeartGold/SoulSilver deck is released) which is considered slow. (Also, you can only retreat once per turn now, so no doubling your retreats to remove status or battle effects.)

And with the Trainer Rare Candy (which lets you skip a stage in evolution or evolve the same turn the Pokemon was played), Pokemon that evolve are much more common than Pokemon that don't as they are stronger in general and Rare Candy (and some other Trainers) help them come out just as fast. The exception to this are SP Pokemon, who make the bulk of competitive play and they are Basic Pokemon (they're like Gym Leader's Pokemon but don't evolve, e.g. an SP Alakazam that is considered a Basic Pokemon and can come out right away and in addition, SP Pokemon have a ton of Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums/abilities that benefit only them).

SP Decks have made this card very popular:

A Machamp with 130 HP and can 1HKO any Basic Pokemon for 1 Fighting Energy. Retreat costs do not matter as he is almost always run in a deck with a Flygon whose Poke Body is to make the retreat cost of any Pokemon to be 0 if Flygon has on him an energy card that is the same type as that Pokemon (Flygon himself has 0 retreat cost and he is colorless so the energy is not wasted going on him.)

This Machamp can come out super fast (you can get him out on your second turn without too much luck).

I knew you guys were intentionally geeking. But there's no harm in me doing, too, even if I seem a bit more serious. It's fun to see how much more advanced/competitive/hardcore Pokemon has become compared to our old childhoods of playing RBY and trading cards in school.

And for the record, I also think Scyther is damn cool and I have a mint condition first edition Jungle Scyther locked up in a vacuum glass case.

On April 08 2010 07:55 SirKibbleX wrote:

Actually this is probably the most broken card of recent years... It's pretty much a completely degenerate draw engine that combined with other cards lets you filter your deck very quickly. Basically the pokemon TCG is now a clever game of positioning and damage distribution. Gust of Wind and Energy Removal effects have become almost insanely rare and have much higher costs. Gust of Wind type effects especially are now almost impossible to come by and usually game-breaking. So 'bench-sniping' attacks are much more valuable.


But more importantly yes, there is a very deep and very complex Pokemon video game metagame. If you don't believe me, look at some of the articles over at Smogon.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/infernape

On April 08 2010 07:13 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:

gawd and I thought sneasel was annoying as fuck back in the day

On April 07 2010 14:34 Chen wrote:

if only they stopped there ><
i had the misfortune of watching the next three series, all of which are exponentially more retarded than the last

On April 08 2010 07:55 SirKibbleX wrote:


Actually this is probably the most broken card of recent years... It's pretty much a completely degenerate draw engine that combined with other cards lets you filter your deck very quickly. Basically the pokemon TCG is now a clever game of positioning and damage distribution. Gust of Wind and Energy Removal effects have become almost insanely rare and have much higher costs. Gust of Wind type effects especially are now almost impossible to come by and usually game-breaking. So 'bench-sniping' attacks are much more valuable.


But more importantly yes, there is a very deep and very complex Pokemon video game metagame. If you don't believe me, look at some of the articles over at Smogon.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/infernape

On April 08 2010 10:08 cosiant wrote:


The hell, season 3 was also good (evil hand sock puppet of DOOM), I mean the epilogue in season 2 SUCKED. I also liked season 1.

On April 08 2010 07:55 SirKibbleX wrote:

But more importantly yes, there is a very deep and very complex Pokemon video game metagame. If you don't believe me, look at some of the articles over at Smogon.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/infernape

On April 08 2010 15:56 Chen wrote:
yeah lol, i had a friend who played competitively. people now actually spend months breeding pokemon so they can get the perfect one, (25 natures, 20 of which give +10% to one stat and -10% to another) and each pokemon has a random # associated with each of its stats 0-31, 31 being the best and basically that # gets added to their stat through the course of leveling to 100.
so people actual spend their time trying to get a pokemon with 31 in all stats and a single good nature, the probability of doing so being 1/22187592025

On April 08 2010 16:14 haley wrote:


Breeding for IV (Individual Values, the 0-31 for each stat that is the "genes" of that Pokemon) and nature is not a shot in the darkness. The developers put in many ways for you to help increase chances in your favor (same with catching Shiny Pokemon).

If the mother is holding an Everstone, the offspring has a 50% chance of her nature. If the lead Pokemon in your party has the ability Synchronize, wild Pokemon have a 50% chance of being the same nature. With these tools in hand (and Ditto who can breed with any Pokemon and chain breeding), it's very easy to breed or catch Pokemon with the nature you want.

IV stats for an offspring are also not completely random. They are passed down in a very systematic way that you can manipulate the probabilities towards your favor. It still takes a long time to do it. And with HeartGold and SoulSilver, new items were created that preserves one IV stat of the parent and with this, it's very easy and systematic to breed that perfect IV Pokemon (though still time consuming, but no where near as time consuming as a shot in the darkness with pure randomness).

However, the Pokemon games have a random number algorithm that is not very complicated (got a bit more complicated with Generation 4, but still predictable) and it is very easy to find guides to help you find out how your game's own random numbers are being generated and use frame data and timers to catch or breed that perfect 31 all IV stats Pokemon without a cheating device.

On April 07 2010 16:40 Jack_Acer75 wrote:
Ok, first off, was I the only one in Red and Blue that actually would buy the magikarp from the salesman before going into mount moon just so I could get a gyrados faster? haha

On April 10 2010 01:03 Kelly L wrote:


I also think so. Thank you for the post.
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On April 09 2010 02:55 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:

It gets easier but it isn't easy. More boring grinding than in WoW. I wish they would simplify these games a bit or something as they are so fucking complicated for being kids games.

On April 07 2010 19:51 haley wrote:

Pokemon is not a good game for competitive play without rules not inherent in the game as the highest level of play will always have only a few viable Pokemon and moves that make luck too strong a factor.

So competitive players agreed on a system of "tiers" with smogon.com defining the basic tier (and adjusting them as the metagame changes) and being the central community that influences other competitive Pokemon communities. All Pokemon are split into tiers: NFE (not fully evolved), NU (never used), UU (under used), BL (borderline: too good for UU but too outclassed for OU), OU (over used), and Uber. OU is the standard tier for competitive play, but competitive players play other tiers, too, or unlimited.

If you are playing in say OU, you can use Pokemon in tiers in OU or lower (but not higher). A Pokemon is put in a tier based on the idea that it can be compete in that tier but if it were placed in a lower tier, it would ruin that tier by being too good and everyone playing that lower tier would have to use that Pokemon to compete.

The idea of player made rules may sound dumb. But there are enough competitive players for them to agree on competitive rules to make competitive play less boring (i.e. more variation in viable Pokemon and more variation in viable moves).

On April 03 2010 03:22 KinosJourney2 wrote:
Gary MOTHERFUCKING Oak

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On April 07 2010 22:59 On_Slaught wrote:
I'm amazed they haven't made a Pokemon mmo yet.

They would basically get a whole new generation of MMO gamers into their pockets.

On January 23 2010 06:54 Shatter wrote:


I know. Was talking about coolness factor. :D

On April 11 2010 03:02 Kyuukyuu wrote:
A Pokemon MMO would likely completely destroy my social life. And I would still buy it and play it regardless.

On April 11 2010 06:24 Xiphiasar wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvbhz8_N6-0



I've never played an MMO, (I am immune to WoW's power), but I would buy a pokemon MMO.

On April 11 2010 03:02 Kyuukyuu wrote:
A Pokemon MMO would likely completely destroy my social life. And I would still buy it and play it regardless.

On April 11 2010 08:44 synapse wrote:


4th gen Scyther gets a great physical bug move (X-scissor), extremely high attack and speed + technician + aerial ace + STAB = really fucking good. CB Scyther can perform decently in OU play.
Most people only prefer Scizor due to type combination and extremely high defense.

Eh, I don't really agree with this. Scyther performs rather poorly in OU simply because it's outclassed by sweepers that are simply stronger and have a much better typing. The reason why scizor is so popular in OU is because it can do many things well (scouting, revenge killing, sweeping, ability to cope with dragons, etc.) and has the great typing to stay alive (10 res, 1 weak).

On April 11 2010 23:13 KinosJourney2 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ocVLsa15Q&playnext_from=TL&videos=JDVtR9zYisg&feature=grec

Guys, apparently South Korean already did a Digimon Online game. However you need to be a korean citizen to play it

On April 14 2010 08:00 obesechicken13 wrote:
Most(or many) of the pokemon pics on the internet are either in the random pics thread or on deviantart. You don't really need a thread for this.

On July 01 2010 08:51 MageKirby wrote:


cannot forget this

Is this suppose to be funny because the trainer doesn't know that syther can't learn fly or because the second trainer is flying on a much smaller pokemon?
And I'm pretty sure the trainers would sit on the pokemons that fly, not stand with their hands up in the hair and mouth open like an idiot.

On July 04 2010 11:16 CagedMind wrote:
You fail to see how that's funny?

On July 04 2010 11:02 textbook wrote:


Is this suppose to be funny because the trainer doesn't know that syther can't learn fly or because the second trainer is flying on a much smaller pokemon?
And I'm pretty sure the trainers would sit on the pokemons that fly, not stand with their hands up in the hair and mouth open like an idiot.

On July 04 2010 11:02 textbook wrote:


Is this suppose to be funny because the trainer doesn't know that syther can't learn fly or because the second trainer is flying on a much smaller pokemon?
And I'm pretty sure the trainers would sit on the pokemons that fly, not stand with their hands up in the hair and mouth open like an idiot.

On July 04 2010 13:29 synapse wrote:


Not sure why magnezone is there (besides the obvious benefits of being steel type), especially if you have a STAB thunderbolt with Zapdos. Also, none of those pokemon are really good as a starter.

On July 04 2010 13:51 synapse wrote:


Does starting with Tyranitar help against Aerodactyl? They'd just focus sash and you wouldnt be able to kill it in one hit anyway. The best solution is to stealth rock your opponent as well, and if your opponent starts with Aerodactyl (which likely has Taunt), switch into a physical wall first turn. Personally, I use bronzong switch -> slowbro (ice beam) to counter Aerodactyl starters.

(And I just remembered Magnezone counters Skarm best) I use slowbro to counter gliscor as well. I think your team would do well with a swords dance / wish passer - wish passer especially since half your team is bulky (scizor, ttar, blissey). Personally I just don't see having Zapdos and Magnezone on the same team being useful.

On July 05 2010 15:11 illu wrote:


This analysis..... holy crap.