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Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
October 20 2009 07:48 GMT
#1
It's pretty amazing to me how fast we're learning how to hook things up to our nervous systems.

A team of scientists from Italy and Sweden has developed what is believed to be the first artificial hand that has feeling:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8313037.stm
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
October 20 2009 07:55 GMT
#2
this sounds awesome

i wonder how advanced this will be like in 20 years time
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Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-20 07:58:00
October 20 2009 07:57 GMT
#3
this is almost approaching immortality imo. imagine a full artificial body with a human brain......
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
October 20 2009 07:59 GMT
#4
omg

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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
October 20 2009 08:09 GMT
#5
I wanted to be the first cyborg in the world !
Dr.Lettuce
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United Kingdom663 Posts
October 20 2009 08:19 GMT
#6
On October 20 2009 16:57 Rice wrote:
this is almost approaching immortality imo. imagine a full artificial body with a human brain......


I don't quite think we're near immortality just yet .

The video for me doesn't work, I'm at work. But did they explain the science behind it?
I mean I sort of assume they fused the nerve endings together, because nerves work on a series of reactions. It's been a long time since I've done any biology, but how would they recreate the synapses, sodium gates and chemical pathways etc?

Would this also make his arm- immune to any diseases in the motor neurons etc. e.g Parkinsons.

On a side note, I'm really impressed, that's such a huge advancement, being able to simulate the human sense of touch. Go science!
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
October 20 2009 08:29 GMT
#7
Resistance ain't futile
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
October 20 2009 08:35 GMT
#8
I wonder when Summer Glau will come and protect me from the evil robots.
this game is a fucking jokie
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
October 20 2009 08:37 GMT
#9
On October 20 2009 16:55 JohnColtrane wrote:
this sounds awesome

i wonder how advanced this will be like in 20 years time



in another 20 years you would probably get a real arm back again somehow.
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
October 20 2009 08:45 GMT
#10
On October 20 2009 17:37 BalliSLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 16:55 JohnColtrane wrote:
this sounds awesome

i wonder how advanced this will be like in 20 years time



in another 20 years you would probably get a real arm back again somehow.


but why get a real one when you can get a robotic one that's 10 times as powerful!
zerotol
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium508 Posts
October 20 2009 08:48 GMT
#11
On October 20 2009 17:37 BalliSLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 16:55 JohnColtrane wrote:
this sounds awesome

i wonder how advanced this will be like in 20 years time



in another 20 years you would probably get a real arm back again somehow.


Perhaps. Bionics are difficult since the brain has to be able to control mechanical parts.
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BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
October 20 2009 08:48 GMT
#12
On October 20 2009 17:45 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 17:37 BalliSLife wrote:
On October 20 2009 16:55 JohnColtrane wrote:
this sounds awesome

i wonder how advanced this will be like in 20 years time



in another 20 years you would probably get a real arm back again somehow.


but why get a real one when you can get a robotic one that's 10 times as powerful!


Then I'd rather have them discover something that makes you're body deteriorate slower. Or maybe transferred to a new body with everything else being the same.
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
Cu(oCo)
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Italy358 Posts
October 20 2009 08:50 GMT
#13
sounds weird italy actually can do something like this. but its just awesome
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
October 20 2009 08:59 GMT
#14
On October 20 2009 17:50 Cu(oCo) wrote:
sounds weird italy actually can do something like this. but its just awesome

Together we can do anything.
Bearigator
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States233 Posts
October 20 2009 09:05 GMT
#15
On October 20 2009 17:48 BalliSLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 17:45 Frits wrote:
On October 20 2009 17:37 BalliSLife wrote:
On October 20 2009 16:55 JohnColtrane wrote:
this sounds awesome

i wonder how advanced this will be like in 20 years time



in another 20 years you would probably get a real arm back again somehow.


but why get a real one when you can get a robotic one that's 10 times as powerful!


Then I'd rather have them discover something that makes you're body deteriorate slower. Or maybe transferred to a new body with everything else being the same.

You would rather have a normal, young healthy body? You could have a giant robot body! Or at least robot limb. Think FMA.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 20 2009 09:12 GMT
#16
star wars already had this, nothing original these days-.-
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opsayo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
591 Posts
October 20 2009 10:23 GMT
#17
On October 20 2009 17:45 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 17:37 BalliSLife wrote:
On October 20 2009 16:55 JohnColtrane wrote:
this sounds awesome

i wonder how advanced this will be like in 20 years time



in another 20 years you would probably get a real arm back again somehow.


but why get a real one when you can get a robotic one that's 10 times as powerful!

sometimes there ain't nothing like the real thing
winterBlossom
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia27 Posts
October 20 2009 11:11 GMT
#18
On October 20 2009 17:59 DrainX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 17:50 Cu(oCo) wrote:
sounds weird italy actually can do something like this. but its just awesome

Together we can do anything.


Sounds like you and Cu(oCo) have a really special productive relationship.
Baby be mine
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
October 20 2009 11:30 GMT
#19
oh shi-
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
October 20 2009 11:33 GMT
#20
i'm not much surprised.i heard that scientists have already created an artificial heart.
so......
You have the power to create your own destiny.
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
October 20 2009 11:34 GMT
#21
That was a really, really cool vid! Such a step up form the claws activated through muscle contractions (which are still crazy as far as I'm concerned)
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Zilver
Profile Joined December 2008
Finland282 Posts
October 20 2009 12:05 GMT
#22
Not far away from Ghost in the Shell, are we?
1a2a3a iWin
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-20 12:08:06
October 20 2009 12:07 GMT
#23
This is pretty neat

On "immortality:" unless they make you an artificial brain too, extending your lifespan just means you'll live long enough to get Alzheimer's.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 20 2009 12:21 GMT
#24
There's a thread regarding human immortality, maybe next stop to immortality is resurrection..

LOL! I'm talking out of my ass when I said resurrection !
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
October 20 2009 12:40 GMT
#25
On a very basic level this shouldn't be too unusual - we are already able to stimulate our nerves and induce much more complex sensations, like hearing with cochlear implants and even the recent trials with vision with cameras.

It is even somewhat disappointing to me that all we are able to do so far is just limited sensitivity in a couple of points. Please get me out of stasis again when we are able to do full skin surface with realistic pressure level sensitivity and temperature and all that, with stimulation of the brain directly, bypassing the peripheral nerves and even the spinal cord.

No, sorry, I didn't want to downplay the significance of this. It is a fine step and I am glad that such research is finally picking up the pace. This is one area of research that will bring revolutionary changes eventually, and I can hardly wait. LOL, am I a dreamer or what?
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
October 20 2009 13:02 GMT
#26
On October 20 2009 20:33 BloodDrunK wrote:
i'm not much surprised.i heard that scientists have already created an artificial heart.
so......


.... It's just a bloody pump! Doesn't even need brain control -_______________________-
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yooh
Profile Joined March 2009
China223 Posts
October 20 2009 13:23 GMT
#27
You guys should watch grey's anatomy.
It's a siiiiickkkk showwwww...
Dr.Lettuce
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United Kingdom663 Posts
October 20 2009 13:28 GMT
#28
Yeah surely creating an artificial heart isn't THAT difficult. I mean a pacemaker already recreate the electronic pulses needed to simulate the muscular walls to actually contract and pump blood round the system. So surely all that needed to be added was a synthetic pump and valve mechanism?

Anyway, can any biologists comment on this? I'm curious about the actual science behind it. What are the future implications?
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-20 13:29:47
October 20 2009 13:28 GMT
#29
On October 20 2009 17:45 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 17:37 BalliSLife wrote:
On October 20 2009 16:55 JohnColtrane wrote:
this sounds awesome

i wonder how advanced this will be like in 20 years time



in another 20 years you would probably get a real arm back again somehow.


but why get a real one when you can get a robotic one that's 10 times as powerful!

Exactly. This will bring plastic surgery to a whole new level.

Doctor: So, what did you have in mind?
Ugly fuck: Well, my boobs are a bit small, ass is kind of sloppy and my head is kind of out or proportion.
Doctor: Lucky you, today we have a special offer containing a boobjob, an assjob and a headjob. For just $5000!
Cu(oCo)
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Italy358 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-20 15:51:57
October 20 2009 15:44 GMT
#30
On October 20 2009 17:59 DrainX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 17:50 Cu(oCo) wrote:
sounds weird italy actually can do something like this. but its just awesome

Together we can do anything.

!!!
hope someone giving group nobel/award (dont know so much about nobel and awards like that)
Goons? just vulture toys 휴.휴
omnigol
Profile Joined April 2008
United States166 Posts
October 20 2009 15:50 GMT
#31
Next step bionic penis
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
October 20 2009 15:59 GMT
#32
On October 20 2009 22:02 Lovin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 20:33 BloodDrunK wrote:
i'm not much surprised.i heard that scientists have already created an artificial heart.
so......


.... It's just a bloody pump! Doesn't even need brain control -_______________________-


Ha! A pun!


I've always been interested in robotics; and this is really fascinating The fact that we have control over a machine with our brain as if it were are own... sounds like science fiction.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
Japakazol
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States102 Posts
October 20 2009 16:20 GMT
#33
On October 20 2009 18:05 Bearigator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 17:48 BalliSLife wrote:
On October 20 2009 17:45 Frits wrote:
On October 20 2009 17:37 BalliSLife wrote:
On October 20 2009 16:55 JohnColtrane wrote:
this sounds awesome

i wonder how advanced this will be like in 20 years time



in another 20 years you would probably get a real arm back again somehow.


but why get a real one when you can get a robotic one that's 10 times as powerful!


Then I'd rather have them discover something that makes you're body deteriorate slower. Or maybe transferred to a new body with everything else being the same.

You would rather have a normal, young healthy body? You could have a giant robot body! Or at least robot limb. Think FMA.


Yes, think FMA. Where he spends the entire series trying to get his normal, young, healthy body back to replace his robot limb. lolz
We feel your presence. u gotta skate
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 20 2009 16:41 GMT
#34
This is really fucking awesome. :D Me wants to be a cyborg.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
October 20 2009 16:43 GMT
#35
Science is really cool when you don't have to be the one spending hundreds and hundreds of hours tweaking and perfecting it.
Hi
Dr.Lettuce
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United Kingdom663 Posts
October 20 2009 17:03 GMT
#36
On October 21 2009 01:43 kidd wrote:
Science is really cool when you don't have to be the one spending hundreds and hundreds of hours tweaking and perfecting it.


There's no such thing as perfecting science, that's the beauty of it. Every trial and error may reveal something. Flemming found penicillin by mistake, look how much that advanced modern medicine. Who knows how far this advancement might take us. Exponential times my friend.
requiem
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States268 Posts
October 20 2009 17:15 GMT
#37
i just watched surrogates a few hours ago, pretty lame movie
...
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
October 20 2009 17:19 GMT
#38
crazy.
technically, this is a very rudimentary recreation of a basic feedback loop but to have gotten even here is really, really amazing. just a few years ago we were impressed with one-way interfaces, and now we can actually 'perceive' via machinery!

when we finally understand the brain (lol) in a few thousand years, the applications are going to be unbelievable. beyond just turning yourself into a gundam, i'm imagining completely new sensory systems where you will feel the data instead of having to read it from a layout. very neuromancer-ish, really
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georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
October 21 2009 10:26 GMT
#39
intrigue, a few thousand years? lol
it will happen before the end of this century... possibly even while we are still alive.

think about it, once we get past our initial taboos and start dabbling with invasive brain-computer interfaces we will be learning things about our brains much faster than we do now. we will probably merge mind with technology very soon after that critical point.

understanding the brain and interfacing with it are not the only revolutionary advances that are about to come this century. nanotechnology, genetics, biology and medicine all hold possibilities of very dramatic breakthroughs in the near future. exponential growth of computational power is a given even today, but photonics, spintronics and especially quantum computing advancements in the near future will boost it to a completely different level.
all of those fields will help one another and help in our understanding of the brain as well.

technology in general is improving exponentially, and a lot of people expect what is called "technological singularity" some time very soon. what that means is that we will get so much revolutionary advancements that will change us and our world to a degree beyond what anyone today can probably imagine or predict.
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