On July 25 2009 07:32 MYM.Testie wrote:
A lot of players could make a nice highlight reel against lower class players.
Can't really say anything until he gets tested in the NBA. ;o

Judicator

United States7270 Posts

July 24 2009 23:03 GMT

#886

On July 25 2009 07:30 BalliSLife wrote:
true but check the edit i think he'll be better after euro

Lol, no, have you followed him before the draft? It's never a good sign when you are so unsure of your draft stock that your first notion is to not go into the green room because you might not get drafted in the first round. Now to me that shows he can't deal with adversity and hasn't matured enough to play in the NBA, add in the fact that he's playing with the Bucks (adversity/hardships inc), I don't see him having any kind of a stellar career.

Oh and then he runs his mouth after the draft and during the Summer League, so now all of a sudden he's got enough swagger to smack talk other players? After he's done actually close to nothing?

BalliSLife

1339 Posts

July 25 2009 00:04 GMT

#887

lol don't get too worked up now, i just thought some of the moves in his game are pretty sick as it reminded me a lot of d rose.

Servolisk

United States5241 Posts

July 25 2009 02:16 GMT

#888

On July 25 2009 07:32 MYM.Testie wrote:
A lot of players could make a nice highlight real against lower class players.
Can't really say anything until he gets tested in the NBA. ;o

Most NBA point guards couldn't do those things against the rim alone.

Athleticism = potential IMO. Other stuff can be taught. I think he will eventually be quite good.

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

July 25 2009 02:21 GMT

#889

On July 25 2009 07:18 BalliSLife wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wXJvsWEmcw

can't wait to see this guy in the bucks uniform.

The similarities are delicious. Enjoy your faux PG.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brandon-Jennings-1114/stats/

Look at his stats for Euro league. "Destroying" isn't the word I'd use.

The Bucks went 4-1 in Las Vegas thanks in large part to Jennings' pass-first mentality. Jennings led all rookies with 8.2 assists per game, but his loud-talking play caught the attention of at least one team exec. "He better keep his mouth shut," the anonymous player personnel director told NBA.com's Art Garcia. "He's a wise ass. And what's going to happen is he's going to go into the lane and one of those monsters is going to knock him on his ass and he's going to be sorry he was a smart aleck. He's been that way most of the games."

BalliSLife

1339 Posts

July 25 2009 02:33 GMT

#890

I will, thanks jibba. marbury sure as hell can't dunk like him

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

July 25 2009 02:35 GMT

#891

I think that video is Marbury with the Knicks. He could definitely dunk earlier in his career.

BalliSLife

1339 Posts

July 25 2009 02:39 GMT

#892

actually if anything he reminds me a lot of ai in his rookie years too

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

July 25 2009 02:44 GMT

#893

Summer league doesn't mean very much (Morrison averaged 21ppg) but the performance of Flynn sounds impressive and I'm glad Griffin actually lived up to the hype. I still think Lawson is going to be a solid starter someday, possible All-star, and the description of Thabeet is everything I said he'd be.

Hasheem Thabeet(notes), Grizzlies—The No. 2 pick looked disinterested and outmatched. Averaged 8.2 points and 4.6 rebounds and it's hard seeing him having much impact offensively for the Grizzlies.

il0seonpurpose

Korea (South)5638 Posts

July 25 2009 02:48 GMT

#894

So Nike happened to give back the Lebron dunk tapes right after they were leaked out...

In other news, Andre Miller signed a 3 year, $21 million contract to the Blazers.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 25 2009 03:02 GMT

#895

ooooooooooooooooooooooo shit Andre Miller on the BLAZERS?!

immediately drafting Lamarcus Aldridge again in my fantasy leagues ^_^

iLoveKT

Philippines3615 Posts

July 25 2009 03:05 GMT

#896

finally they got a point guard not named Steve Blake. I think they are set to come out of the west this coming season.

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

July 25 2009 03:05 GMT

#897

Yeah, it's a really nice signing. Blazers are going to be sick again.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

July 25 2009 03:07 GMT

#898

Steve Blake isn't that bad lol.

Seriously though wtf when will they let Jared Bayless go nuts

iLoveKT

Philippines3615 Posts

July 25 2009 03:07 GMT

#899

I already see amazing lob passes by miller...

Xeris

Iran17695 Posts

July 25 2009 03:30 GMT

#900

On July 25 2009 07:02 XaI)CyRiC wrote:

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On July 25 2009 03:13 Xeris wrote:

On July 25 2009 02:09 XaI)CyRiC wrote:

On July 24 2009 15:16 Xeris wrote:
I dunno... that IMO was one of the dumbest moves that anyone's made that never gets talked about. Seriously, Chandler is like 15-10-2 (blocks) player with great height, young, athletic. And really they got him for literally nothing. If they just let him on the injured list for the rest of the year, they still get their lottery pick and then they'd be rolling out with a starting 5 of: Chandler, Green, Durant, Harden, Westbrook.

That is possibly playoff potential. But instead they have a very strong 1-4 but no 5.

Chandler as 15/10/2? I have my doubts.

He's never averaged 15 ppg, not even during 07-08, his best season. The only way he averaged double digits that season (the only season he did so) was because Paul was doing all the work by setting him up for dunks. He's definitely a great rebounder, so that 10 rpg is very possible, but 2 bpg? He's never averaged that many blocks over a season, and I don't see why that'd change in OKC.

Chandler would be lucky to score 8 ppg in OKC without a true PG setting him up for baskets. His offense would consist entirely of put-backs and the occasional dunk from a pass-off from Westbrook or Durant. We know he has no perimeter shot to speak of, and his FT shooting is poor as well. He'd be a defense and rebounding specialist, which is really what OKC needs from their C, but expecting him to score even 10 ppg is being unrealistic.

My concern about trading for Chandler, if I were a GM, would be his health. While he's been pretty solid prior to last year, I'm not sure it's a coincidence that he ended up missing a large chunk of last season after OKC backed out of the trade due to durability/health concerns. They rescinded the trade over concerns with his left big toe, and he ended up missing a lot of time because of that same toe and additional ankle problems with that same foot, eventually requiring surgery on both.

Could Chandler be the Thunder's solution at Center? Yes, most definitely. He impressed me with his rebounding and defense against Duncan in the NOR-SAS series, and that's what OKC needs right now. Will he ever be anything more than a rebounding/defense specialist? Will he ever be a 15/10/2 player? My answer to both would be no. The Tyson we've seen is the the Tyson any team will get at this point. Do I think OKC trading for Chandler should've been a no-brainer? No, there are some valid concerns, especially when you consider that the overall strategy there is long-term (not win-now), so any concerns over a player's durability will factor greatly into their personnel decisions.

What other center would be good for them? They need one

Do they really need one right now? Does anyone think that they'd become a contender by improving at the Center position? Their window is a few years from now, at the very least, so there's no rush to fill their need at Center right now unless it's a great fit. They can afford to wait a few years and see what other options come up, it's not like Chandler is a once-in-five-years kind of player.

If all they're looking for is a solid defender and rebounder, with no need for any sort of offensive repertoire, they could conceivably fill that spot cheaply later on with a veteran or solid big in the McDyess/Kurt Thomas mold.

Chandler would be nice, but grabbing him now isn't essential by any means.

I'm not saying right now, but they need one, period. It's not like in 2-3 years they're magically going to find a center, and they didn't draft one in this draft that's going to be something, so they need to GET one from somewhere... so my question is pretty valid IMO. I agree their window to win is in 2-3 years, but they're going to need a center, and they're probably going to have to do it with a center that's already in the NBA (since they haven't drafted any center and it doesn't seem like there's a Shaq/Dwight out there in College for them to pick up in 1-2 years)... so.

What other Center besides Chandler could help fill their void? O_O;;