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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 27 2009 17:57 GMT
#921
What do we think of Andre Miller to Por?
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 27 2009 18:03 GMT
#922
Sounds good, they still have Blake don't they? He wasn't horrible so they have a backup plan if Miller starts showing his age.
Get it by your hands...
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 27 2009 19:33 GMT
#923
On July 28 2009 02:57 citi.zen wrote:
What do we think of Andre Miller to Por?


A very, very bad situation for the Western Conference. Andre Miller is what you'd call a Pure Point Guard in that he knows offensive schemes very well, can pass well and if need be can drop 20 points on the opposing team. He's never really been a superstar player but more of a "If you want to win big this guy is a good fit" kind of a player.

So you've got Steve Blake who's by all means average. You've got Andre Miller who's above average even at this age. The real killer is that they've STILL got the much hyped Jared Bayless in development who now should be learning management style gameplay from Miller. Bayless can pass but he is an offensive scoring machine. We all know why that's good and bad. Imagine if Iverson kept his scoring ability but learned how to play under Isiah Thomas. That's what the Blazers are somewhat looking for (I'd hope).
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 27 2009 20:12 GMT
#924
They were the most efficient team last season, so they could be interesting to watch. If Odom moves to Mia the west could be fairly open...
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
July 27 2009 20:27 GMT
#925
haha imagine if portland took kevin durant instead of oden, imagine how sick they'd be right now
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 27 2009 20:51 GMT
#926
they'd be imbalance ...
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 27 2009 21:22 GMT
#927
On July 28 2009 05:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
haha imagine if portland took kevin durant instead of oden, imagine how sick they'd be right now


Scary thought :-)

On the flip side, imagine how bad OKL would be! (Ok, they still suck but Durant gives the some hope / tickets sold).
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 27 2009 21:26 GMT
#928
Well they'd still have Jeff Green ^_^

He's one of my " I hope people forget how beastly he is and don't pick him in the 3rd or 4th round" fantasy prospects for next season.

The same goes for Russel Westbrook once I get word on how his summer training has been looking.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
July 27 2009 23:14 GMT
#929
On July 28 2009 05:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
haha imagine if portland took kevin durant instead of oden, imagine how sick they'd be right now



Haha good thought.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 27 2009 23:18 GMT
#930
On July 28 2009 06:26 Ace wrote:
Well they'd still have Jeff Green ^_^

He's one of my " I hope people forget how beastly he is and don't pick him in the 3rd or 4th round" fantasy prospects for next season.

The same goes for Russel Westbrook once I get word on how his summer training has been looking.


I had both Westbrook and Green on my fantasy team last season and I was pretty happy... too bad AI and Stojakovic totally fucked it for us. T_T;;

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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
July 27 2009 23:47 GMT
#931
On July 28 2009 08:18 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 06:26 Ace wrote:
Well they'd still have Jeff Green ^_^

He's one of my " I hope people forget how beastly he is and don't pick him in the 3rd or 4th round" fantasy prospects for next season.

The same goes for Russel Westbrook once I get word on how his summer training has been looking.


I had both Westbrook and Green on my fantasy team last season and I was pretty happy... too bad AI and Stojakovic totally fucked it for us. T_T;;



What settings and categories were you guys playing with? Under Yahoo standard 9-category rankings, neither Westbrook nor Green were particularly impressive.

Westbrook's FG% and TOs were killer, and his inability to make 3's hurt him as a guard. He scored a lot by getting to the line a lot and shooting a pretty good FT%, rebounded well for a guard (~5 rpg), got a good number of steals (~1.2 spg), but had a very average assist rate for a guy who had the ball so much. Overall, he was a very inefficient player apart from his FT shooting.

Green had a pretty bad FG% himself for a forward, but his 3pt shooting and FT shooting sort of made up for it and allowed him to score a good amount in the end. He rebounded pretty well during some stretches, but ended up averaging about 6-7 rpg, which isn't all that great for a guy who played so much PF. Also had a pretty bad AST/TO ratio and got very few STL and BLK.

Overall, both players were borderline when including TOs as a category, and 8th-9th rounders when excluding it. I guess one could be pleased if they got them very cheaply (late-round draft pick or FA pickup), but I don't know that I'd expect all that much from them in a fantasy standpoint barring significant improvement (more likely with Westbrook than Green IMO).
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 27 2009 23:50 GMT
#932
H2H using ESPN. Turnovers didn't count and neither did FT%

^_^
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
July 28 2009 00:04 GMT
#933
On July 28 2009 08:50 Ace wrote:
H2H using ESPN. Turnovers didn't count and neither did FT%

^_^


Bah. I dislike leagues that don't value efficiency
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 00:20:17
July 28 2009 00:19 GMT
#934
I usually do too, but if I had to narrow down my picks using those constraints it would take me forever to pick :/

I tried to convince the guys in my league to include FT% but then they decided not to change it especially since my roster was loaded with PGs (the secret to destroying fantasy leagues).
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 28 2009 14:33 GMT
#935
We should all do a TL fantasy league in the fall :-)
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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 28 2009 17:54 GMT
#936
someone give me their insider account t.t
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
July 28 2009 19:13 GMT
#937
On July 29 2009 02:54 tonight wrote:
someone give me their insider account t.t



Haha yeah, ESPN is going all Insider Only for some reason. Stupid and not fair
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 28 2009 20:54 GMT
#938
I fucking hate it. I see something I want to read but then it slams me with shit insider. We need someone on the "inside"r to post us articles. Someone is going to have to take one for the team and spend the 6dollars a month or whatever it is.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
July 29 2009 01:40 GMT
#939
I've got Insider. Dunno for how much longer tho. Give me ur email and urls of articles u want to read and I'll send them to you.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
July 29 2009 01:55 GMT
#940
Yeah someone should organize a TL fantasy basketball for this coming season. sounds fun.
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