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Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
August 06 2012 21:29 GMT
#3241
On August 07 2012 06:21 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 05:26 wooozy wrote:
if i had to guess: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=55948

YESSSSS. Thank you very much kind sir


I've had more than one person ask about that when I was using it, lol.
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
August 06 2012 21:57 GMT
#3242
On August 07 2012 04:53 prototype. wrote:
megamanexe's skin looks really sleek and futuristic.

just sayin'


You know it
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
August 07 2012 02:27 GMT
#3243
On August 07 2012 06:57 MegaManEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 04:53 prototype. wrote:
megamanexe's skin looks really sleek and futuristic.

just sayin'


You know it


You have massive score circles (the hell are they called again?) D:
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
August 07 2012 02:53 GMT
#3244
Hitbursts I think
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
August 07 2012 05:31 GMT
#3245
On August 07 2012 11:53 MegaManEXE wrote:
Hitbursts I think



Yep, that's what I meant. Seriously, I don't get how people play with big hitbursts.
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
August 07 2012 08:00 GMT
#3246
I dunno I'm just kind of used to them

I started off playing with them because A. there were no minimalistic skins available in 2009 and B. I was used to the large hitbursts from Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents so it felt like a natural thing to play with

For the longest time I always wondered how people could FC things with hidden after just playing a song once without it because stacked notes with large hitbursts makes hidden a complete nightmare, and then I realized that they were using small/transparent hitbursts
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
August 07 2012 08:27 GMT
#3247
On August 07 2012 17:00 MegaManEXE wrote:
I dunno I'm just kind of used to them

I started off playing with them because A. there were no minimalistic skins available in 2009 and B. I was used to the large hitbursts from Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents so it felt like a natural thing to play with

For the longest time I always wondered how people could FC things with hidden after just playing a song once without it because stacked notes with large hitbursts makes hidden a complete nightmare, and then I realized that they were using small/transparent hitbursts


Yeah, that makes a huge difference in playing hidden.
Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
August 07 2012 15:25 GMT
#3248
On August 07 2012 17:00 MegaManEXE wrote:
I dunno I'm just kind of used to them

I started off playing with them because A. there were no minimalistic skins available in 2009 and B. I was used to the large hitbursts from Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents so it felt like a natural thing to play with

For the longest time I always wondered how people could FC things with hidden after just playing a song once without it because stacked notes with large hitbursts makes hidden a complete nightmare, and then I realized that they were using small/transparent hitbursts

Have you tried playing hidden with small hitbursts? It might make you hate hidden less.
http://i.imgur.com/IPxgv.png
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
August 07 2012 18:50 GMT
#3249
Yeah I do have a separate skin I use for playing tricky songs on hidden and flashlight

I just prefer to not bust it out unless I really have to :V
McFortran
Profile Joined October 2010
United States79 Posts
August 08 2012 00:24 GMT
#3250
I just switched over to a skin with small hitbursts with the intent of playing more hidden. I haven't really noticed an improvement in hidden, but maps with lots of notes are easier for me now (less clutter).


I don't know whether I should be happy I finally FC'd this song or sad that I ever played it at all (switched over to default skin for the screenshot).

[image loading]
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
August 08 2012 01:14 GMT
#3251
With these two ranks + Show Spoiler +
TriGoon achieved rank #7 on Kylie Minogue - In Your Eyes [Insane]
TriGoon achieved rank #6 on Ayaka - Yume wo Mikata ni [Hard]
and a couple other decent ranks I managed to jump up 250 ranks today. Yay.
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
August 08 2012 01:44 GMT
#3252
On August 08 2012 09:24 McFortran wrote:
I just switched over to a skin with small hitbursts with the intent of playing more hidden. I haven't really noticed an improvement in hidden, but maps with lots of notes are easier for me now (less clutter).


I don't know whether I should be happy I finally FC'd this song or sad that I ever played it at all (switched over to default skin for the screenshot).

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I love that map :V
MaDuShI
Profile Joined July 2011
France12 Posts
August 08 2012 02:21 GMT
#3253
Trying to play harder maps :

+ Show Spoiler +
Rank #83 Mythologia's End
[image loading]

Rank#53 Holy Orders
[image loading]


Still get no pp. I know that accuracy matters and that mine sucks certainly but I still think that the pp system favours the mid-high level maps farmers just like the point system.

If it's the most popular maps that give you more points, and given that the maps are more popular if more reachable, then pp can't be relevant. Only my thoughts.

And I also have a question : Does modes changes something with pp ? like If you pass a song with hidden, will you get more pp than without, if the ranking/accuracy is nearly the same ?
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
August 08 2012 03:22 GMT
#3254
I don't wanna look for the source thread, but Peppy posted that there are different hidden weightings to the mods in the calculations to more accurately reflect skill. So mods should give more PP with same acc/score, and mods like hard rock would give more than hidden with same acc/score.
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 04:28:35
August 08 2012 04:27 GMT
#3255
10,000 is a pretty cute number :D

[image loading]

aha wow i suck

Seriously I dont get this PP system at all...

I guess I need to stop playing maps as soon as they get ranked. I DT/Hd a bunch of hard diff maps today, and then I went DOWN 500 pp because one of my top scores that I got after I played a map that just had gotten ranked fell off the top 500.

I raged so hard when I was expecting to go up like 500 pp and instead I lost a ton... This system isnt very fun at all..
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 07:24:26
August 08 2012 07:23 GMT
#3256
I don't see you going down 500 pp anywhere after may.

I'm going to assume you mean "500 ranks". Since peppy made pp realtime, everyone's scores get readjusted to take into account PP decay, map value changes etc once a day.
McFortran
Profile Joined October 2010
United States79 Posts
August 08 2012 12:29 GMT
#3257
On August 08 2012 11:21 MaDuShI wrote:
Trying to play harder maps :

+ Show Spoiler +
Rank #83 Mythologia's End
[image loading]

Rank#53 Holy Orders
[image loading]


Still get no pp. I know that accuracy matters and that mine sucks certainly but I still think that the pp system favours the mid-high level maps farmers just like the point system.

If it's the most popular maps that give you more points, and given that the maps are more popular if more reachable, then pp can't be relevant. Only my thoughts.

And I also have a question : Does modes changes something with pp ? like If you pass a song with hidden, will you get more pp than without, if the ranking/accuracy is nearly the same ?

I'm ranked a decent amount higher than you and can't even come close to beating mythologia's end (58% NoFail). A lot of what I play are approved maps and they don't really give any pp. The few easier maps that I play are where all of my pp comes from. If you look at most people's best performance maps they're almost all hard maps, so farming those maps does indeed help pp (yours are mostly insane maps).

Mods help a ton with respect to pp. 8 of my top 10 ranks are done with hidden (I've only FC'd 14 maps on hidden). My top 2 are a doubletime+hidden hard difficulty (~50pp) and a SS hidden+flashlight insane (~450pp).
MaDuShI
Profile Joined July 2011
France12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 16:06:51
August 08 2012 16:06 GMT
#3258
Thanks for the answers!

I think I might not gain much more pp, don't really like much playing on hard maps and I'm really not good with modes.

By the way, is there anyway to see how much pp a map gives you or did you just noticed the pp escalation when you just passed the map ?
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
August 08 2012 16:24 GMT
#3259
Might be due to the fact that less people play approved maps so since popularity is apparently factored into the weighting system, even if you get a top 500 rank on an approved map you won't gain much/any pp if people just don't play the map in the first place
McFortran
Profile Joined October 2010
United States79 Posts
August 08 2012 17:15 GMT
#3260
On August 09 2012 01:06 MaDuShI wrote:
Thanks for the answers!

I think I might not gain much more pp, don't really like much playing on hard maps and I'm really not good with modes.

By the way, is there anyway to see how much pp a map gives you or did you just noticed the pp escalation when you just passed the map ?

I just looked at how much the graph jumped for scores I did a while ago. Now that it updates in real time you can just see how much it changes immediately after playing the map. I don't think there's any other way to tell how much pp you get.

On August 09 2012 01:24 MegaManEXE wrote:
Might be due to the fact that less people play approved maps so since popularity is apparently factored into the weighting system, even if you get a top 500 rank on an approved map you won't gain much/any pp if people just don't play the map in the first place

Also, with how the performance system works it seems like you need a FC with high accuracy to get any decent amount of pp in the first place. I'd imagine the only way to get a good amount of pp from an approved map is to FC one of the few popular ones.
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