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Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
July 25 2012 20:09 GMT
#3121
On July 26 2012 02:08 _Void_ wrote:
So, I've been playing osu!mania for the last two days...
The game is tons of fun, but hella hard orz
Oh well, at least I finally managed to pass my first 7key map, even if it's just a ridiculously easy converted map. Considering I got D ranks on 4key maps when I started playing two days ago, I'm quite proud of my progress xD

[image loading]


Where do you get that?
_Void_
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany78 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 20:22:36
July 25 2012 20:13 GMT
#3122
It's available on the test build right now

/E: http://ha.ppy.sh/forum/t/73203
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 21:51:55
July 25 2012 20:22 GMT
#3123
On July 26 2012 05:13 _Void_ wrote:
It's available on the test build right now


Yeah, see peppy's not getting a cent of my money, so unless you've got some way to force it to let me in....

EDIT: If I'm bored enough, I might see if I can force it to let me in by dissembling it...

EDIT2: bored enough for now. Working on decompiling and deobfuscating... never reverse engineered C# before, this could be fun.

EDIT3: Far less fun than expected. obfuscated code...
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
July 25 2012 23:14 GMT
#3124
wat
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
July 26 2012 00:18 GMT
#3125
Wow trying to get PP as someone that can only barely rank in the top 500 in most maps is suffering. I lose PP as fast as i gain it ;-;
Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
July 26 2012 01:38 GMT
#3126
Peppy really knows how to make games less fun. Like...rank was poorly designed before, but it lent itself to playing a bunch of maps and wanting to play as many ranked maps as possible, now the only way to feel built-in satisfaction is to play the same map until you get an amazing score, and with this game being centered around combos that means perfection. Not a good combination for a fun gameplay mechanic.

Does it stop you from being self motivated to play fun maps and get better? No. But if every game relied on the perfect player archetype the entire industry would be even more shit than it already is.

All of these changes are really making me not want to play anymore. Its not like I've seriously played in the last 3 months anyway....
http://i.imgur.com/IPxgv.png
FILM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States663 Posts
July 26 2012 04:03 GMT
#3127
Hi sooo, I'm certainly worse than 99% of the TL guys who play Osu! I've basically exclusively been playing the game only for challenging and fun beatmaps and disregarding perfection entirely ( sub 60% accuracy now ;-; ). If I were to say, 'at the moment I'm really digging maps by val0108', would you be able to give me suggestions for similar beatmaps? What might they be?
Artosis:  "It's like Detroit in there."   Tasteless:  "Lots of shootings and damaged buildings."
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
July 26 2012 04:38 GMT
#3128
If I can figure out how to hack osu, I'm seriously considering releasing a hacked version that won't force update, have supporter features (if possible) and doesn't include some of the bullshit changes peppy intends to add so people have options when he begins to force osz2 and re-downloading deleted song elements and such.
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
July 26 2012 07:09 GMT
#3129
On July 26 2012 13:03 FILM wrote:
Hi sooo, I'm certainly worse than 99% of the TL guys who play Osu! I've basically exclusively been playing the game only for challenging and fun beatmaps and disregarding perfection entirely ( sub 60% accuracy now ;-; ). If I were to say, 'at the moment I'm really digging maps by val0108', would you be able to give me suggestions for similar beatmaps? What might they be?


Pretty much any approval map because they're almost all death maps like val's
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 08:31:47
July 26 2012 08:24 GMT
#3130
On July 26 2012 16:09 MegaManEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 13:03 FILM wrote:
Hi sooo, I'm certainly worse than 99% of the TL guys who play Osu! I've basically exclusively been playing the game only for challenging and fun beatmaps and disregarding perfection entirely ( sub 60% accuracy now ;-; ). If I were to say, 'at the moment I'm really digging maps by val0108', would you be able to give me suggestions for similar beatmaps? What might they be?


Pretty much any approval map because they're almost all death maps like val's


I'd have mentioned wcx too... And not all approval maps are hard, some are just long, because the rules are dumb.

Also, my decompiled source code is pretty close to workable. Only a few errors to resolve. No idea how long it'll take to get to a point where I know enough to actually resolve them.

Right now I'm focusing on figuring out as much as I can by renaming things so I can figure out what is what and what does what. I've found part of the main section that controls what "screen" you are in (playing the game, song selection, options pages, etc.) I found most of the options, which is a great place to start finding out what some stuff does.

The problem with decompiled source code is that you get something that looks like:

 
class3.class5_0.method_24(Color.White, 100);
class3.class5_0.class13_1 = null;
class3.bool_0 = false;
class3.class7_0.method_24(Color.Black, 20);


It's a slow process of learning piece by piece what things are.
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
July 26 2012 10:52 GMT
#3131
On July 26 2012 13:03 FILM wrote:
Hi sooo, I'm certainly worse than 99% of the TL guys who play Osu! I've basically exclusively been playing the game only for challenging and fun beatmaps and disregarding perfection entirely ( sub 60% accuracy now ;-; ). If I were to say, 'at the moment I'm really digging maps by val0108', would you be able to give me suggestions for similar beatmaps? What might they be?


Haha I'm pretty much in the same boat as you, though i managed to keep my acc around 80% XD. Anyways, my favorite 'hard' mappers are usually by galvenize, Lesjuh, rickyboi, Dokolp, Starrodkirby etc.

Val has a really unique mapping style...but out of those Lesjuh or rickyboi is probably closest to val's (focus on big, fun sliders and lots of wide 1/4 note spacing).
FILM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States663 Posts
July 26 2012 12:21 GMT
#3132
On July 26 2012 19:52 Hakker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 13:03 FILM wrote:
Hi sooo, I'm certainly worse than 99% of the TL guys who play Osu! I've basically exclusively been playing the game only for challenging and fun beatmaps and disregarding perfection entirely ( sub 60% accuracy now ;-; ). If I were to say, 'at the moment I'm really digging maps by val0108', would you be able to give me suggestions for similar beatmaps? What might they be?


Haha I'm pretty much in the same boat as you, though i managed to keep my acc around 80% XD. Anyways, my favorite 'hard' mappers are usually by galvenize, Lesjuh, rickyboi, Dokolp, Starrodkirby etc.

Val has a really unique mapping style...but out of those Lesjuh or rickyboi is probably closest to val's (focus on big, fun sliders and lots of wide 1/4 note spacing).


Nice! I'll definitely check these mappers out. I also learned shortly after posting that if I just search up the creators of the maps I enjoy that they tend to have favorites of their own which align with the same sentiments. And here I was starting to worry that I was running out of novelty and that I'd actually have to hunker down and learn to play properly~
Artosis:  "It's like Detroit in there."   Tasteless:  "Lots of shootings and damaged buildings."
_Void_
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany78 Posts
July 26 2012 13:12 GMT
#3133
NatsumeRin maps somewhat similar to val, at least on high BPM songs (like 200+)
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
July 26 2012 16:59 GMT
#3134
On July 22 2012 01:21 Denzil wrote:
On some songs' spinners I'm having a problem where my mouse spinning is going retarded and not completing the circles I'm making with my mouse, I know it's not my mouse because prior to the spinner nothing is wrong and on other songs it's perfectly fine

Any ideas on how to fix it?


Problems still occuring, did 1 song, spun my mouse round the spinner perfectly fine clicked the spinner and then suddenly it goes retarded and doesn't complete the circles.

Tried another song straight after and the spinner worked perfectly

Any ideas? :/
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 26 2012 17:19 GMT
#3135
On July 27 2012 01:59 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 01:21 Denzil wrote:
On some songs' spinners I'm having a problem where my mouse spinning is going retarded and not completing the circles I'm making with my mouse, I know it's not my mouse because prior to the spinner nothing is wrong and on other songs it's perfectly fine

Any ideas on how to fix it?


Problems still occuring, did 1 song, spun my mouse round the spinner perfectly fine clicked the spinner and then suddenly it goes retarded and doesn't complete the circles.

Tried another song straight after and the spinner worked perfectly

Any ideas? :/

It might be your mouse, that's reaching its input limits. Shake your mouse left-to right vigorously, then release it and watch the cursor. If you see the cursor drifting, then it's probably your mouse that's bad and needs to be upgraded.
=Þ
_Void_
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany78 Posts
July 26 2012 17:47 GMT
#3136
Did you disable pointer accelleration in the windows settings?
Because accelleration + quick spinning = random-ass movements
McFortran
Profile Joined October 2010
United States79 Posts
July 26 2012 23:33 GMT
#3137
+ Show Spoiler +
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The nightcore mod almost feels like cheating. It's just like doubletime except there's a clapping noise in the background that's timed exactly with the beat. Switching from doubletime to nightcore on this map instantly improved my accuracy by like 2%.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
July 27 2012 03:23 GMT
#3138
Ya, that was first thing I thought when I played nightcore. Makes the song easier, by making the beat stronger. Should be a 10 or 11% bonus rather than 12, so true DT still better.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 11:17:44
July 27 2012 11:16 GMT
#3139
Nightcore did nothing for me, other than piss me the fuck off, because nightcore is an abomination "subgenre" that should never have existed in the first place. I'd rather listen to 12 hours of eurodance garbage than 2 hours of nightcore. Yeah. I. Hate. Nightcore. I also don't need some external sound to keep me on time (though that's probably got something to do with having played tons for other music games in the past).

When I play stepmania, I hit the keys rather loudly, and can actually use that to tap out the rhythm the way the claps are supposed to help, except that I can actually hear when I'm off time doing that.
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
July 27 2012 17:01 GMT
#3140
What's the point of playing singletap vs alternating? I've always alternated on everything no matter what, but my high ranking friends all say that they 'always 1key everything up to X bpm...' etc.

Does it help accuracy or something? or is it just for fun? ive never even thought about trying to 1key before lol so this is new to me.
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