Haha, I've played this since 2005. Such a fun game, but really requires a large time investment. Used to love roaming around back when I had spare hours to lead roams, now I basically just keep my account on for skill training.

Black Ops 5 currently training; almost perfect Widow skills!

After that it's dreadnought skills all the way. My Naglfar is getting rusty in its hangar!

TurpinOS

Canada1223 Posts

December 02 2010 19:46 GMT

#3986

Sooo, how did VoV lose a stiletto to a 1400 arti pest ?

Also, seen a couple of KMs with 1400 t2 arti pests... I guess thats their new strat ?

KwarK

United States42682 Posts

December 02 2010 20:19 GMT

#3987

On December 03 2010 02:53 Dexxus wrote:
Do I train PvP monsters or what?

This one was all me. We were brawling on the station and Karah was being awesome. Then when they stopped undocking I did a lot of nano work with the guys on nanoing and theory and drilled the 3 day old guys pretty hard (innuendo intended). Then when they undocked 12 bs at once with RR I felt confident taking my 4 bc and rifters into battle, despite some early issues with them ramming the 'enemy fleet' in practice. They fitted some sniper pests up and killed a few frigates but the rest of us did great, controlling our range, focussing down primaries and forcing their guardian to redock on structure. We took 0 significant losses and showed them that we don't give a fuck about how many RR BS they sit at 0 on a station, we will still fight them with 3 day old rifters. Nothing larger than a frigate hull died on our side, nothing on their side but we showed them it doesn't matter what they bring, we're gonna fly like gosus and just outmicro them.

FUCK YEAH AWESOME HOLD ON
Was mid update when vov told me he had a WT phoon entering rens (in a very concise way for the record). We immediately got a gang up, Soz scouted us on the way to rens and we camped the gate. So they were sitting in Emol talking shit in local while we sat on the gate waiting for this.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11864208#submitMail

BEST KILL EVER!!!
Massively cap stable arty phoon with active tank and a fucking warp core stab. TITANIUM SABOT ROUNDS! GOD I AM LOLING SO HARD RIGHT NOW. What is that thing even for lol?!?!

Also they were doing some serious smack in local. A guy who we killed in a drake earlier was spamming local saying we're not going to kill any of them in this war, others were saying we always run and never fight etc. Someone in local asked who was winning and they were all "WE'RE WINNING EASY LOL". Was an amazing exercise in doublethink. They're now down around nine hundred million isk on day one and we lost around sixty million and somewhere some of them have to know it. We are raping the shit out of them. 95 members against 230 and all they can do is sit at 0 and talk smack while the loot stacks up.

KwarK

United States42682 Posts

December 02 2010 20:21 GMT

#3988

Basically they sit around talking shit while we don't say a word, we just kill them, over and over.

TurpinOS

Canada1223 Posts

December 02 2010 20:31 GMT

#3989

On December 03 2010 05:21 KwarK wrote:
Basically they sit around talking shit while we don't say a word, we just kill them, over and over.

yeah but we fly our ships, so were not really ''fighting'' in that war, thus them being 60M - 0M in real pvp (aka station gamez)

Official isk lost stats since the beginning of war :

240manalliancenecrophiliacprostationpvpers: 765.5 million iskies lost
100mancorpthehatchurywecheapbyflyingships : 256 million iskies lost

They were right, they win (the isk lost)

Viceorvirtue

United States273 Posts

December 02 2010 20:50 GMT

#3990

Well the arti pest was sniper fit and warped in at range. I didnt realize it was a sniper fit until about a second and a half before it killed me and wasnt able to react in time after giving intel on it. I feel this was a reasonabley acceptable loss and it did allow us to prevent any excessive frigate deaths later on. Also the typhoon kill totally makes up for it putting me comfortably in the green once again for todays isk killed/lost ratio so far.

KwarK

United States42682 Posts

December 02 2010 21:04 GMT

#3991

So they came to frarn to try and bait us into doing shit. Sat a loki on the station while we had a domi there. Obviously it's a trap. We knew they had a massive fleet on the way from emol and we knew the loki was a part of that fleet but we thought maybe we could try something and then take a leaf out of their book and deaggress. The domi undocks and attacks it, I decloak and web + point it and it's going down. Local spikes and I give the deaggress order and pull my drones and get myself out. Ownagecake stops firing but leaves his nos on and promptly loses his domi. He will not be getting reimbursed, if he can't afford another domi I'm gonna count that as a win for the corp. That's given me a pretty sinking feeling after starting so well. We don't generally fly bs and now a failfit bs in a rusty pilot has been lost. Tbh I should have known better than to let him fly it because he's not been on any ops and I've not seen him in action. It was my fault as FC for allowing him to use a domi.

Black Kestrel

United States19 Posts

December 02 2010 21:13 GMT

#3992

On December 03 2010 04:46 TurpinOS wrote:
Sooo, how did VoV lose a stiletto to a 1400 arti pest ?

Also, seen a couple of KMs with 1400 t2 arti pests... I guess thats their new strat ?

Put simply: 0 radial/transversal velocity.

KwarK

United States42682 Posts

December 02 2010 21:21 GMT

#3993

Domi was seriously failfit and failflown too. I really dropped the ball here. This isn't the kind of shit we fly and I should have interrogated him further. The problem was it was ownagecake who is an old tl corp veteran who recently joined us and I made the assumption that he wasn't awful. A good domi (like one using battleship class blasters, maybe even t2, instead of 4 t1 medium blasters) that would have killed the loki in seconds and been able to deaggress with ease. Awful, awful pilot and I need to make absolutely 0 assumptions regarding how good pilots are.

Edit: Basically we turned a 400m kill given to us on a platter into a 140m loss. The guy told me he had a domi and like a fool I took that at face value and didn't suspect it had just 4 t1 medium blasters.

TurpinOS

Canada1223 Posts

December 02 2010 21:29 GMT

#3994

Was also wondering about that lost, t1 blasters, a nos instead of heavy neuts, no 1600 plates on a bait domi (needs more resists imo)

This fit makes no sense at all.

If you want to fight on station with a BS use johnnys geddon

On December 03 2010 06:13 Black Kestrel wrote:

Show nested quote +

Put simply: 0 radial/transversal velocity.

rofl, yeah, my point was more of ''why did he have 0 transversal''

KwarK

United States42682 Posts

December 02 2010 21:33 GMT

#3995

We weren't baiting, they were. We were undocking, going for a gank then a quick redock. The plan failed when the domi was so failfit it couldn't gank anything (a good domi at 0 on a loki which is dual webbed and scrammed will kill it in under 30 secs) and didn't understand that deaggressing meant to stop aggressing.

TurpinOS

Canada1223 Posts

December 02 2010 21:35 GMT

#3996

Call it a station domi/brawling if you want

, same thing (aka a big block with neuts and close range guns to pop, tank and redock)

KwarK

United States42682 Posts

December 02 2010 21:42 GMT

#3997

On December 03 2010 06:35 TurpinOS wrote:
Call it a station domi/brawling if you want

, same thing (aka a big block with neuts and close range guns to pop, tank and redock)

Obv we're never doing that again. I really feel terrible and VoV is being a whiny bitch at me about it on vent which just makes it worse. I know I fucked up hard VoV, I feel shit about the domi loss already. No need to keep telling me how shit it makes you feel that we failed, I was the guy who let it happen, I know.

Dexxus

United States329 Posts

December 02 2010 21:46 GMT

#3998

On December 03 2010 05:19 KwarK wrote:

Show nested quote +

This one was all me. We were brawling on the station and Karah was being awesome. Then when they stopped undocking I did a lot of nano work with the guys on and theory and drilled the 3 day old guys pretty hard (innuendo intended)...

Don't steal my thunder... I trained you too, young one.

EDIT: And you are a PvP monster

Ownagecake

Canada4 Posts

December 02 2010 21:59 GMT

#3999

Don't blame yourself, Kwark, I was the one who undocked with a shit fit and didn't deaggress like I'm fucking retarded. Anyways, I'm taking a break for a few days to let the shame die down a bit.

I've done some pretty bad pvp shit playing this game but that's the worst by far, sorry

Oh and I don't fly that kind of shitfit anymore, that was a relic from when I had no SP at all, I am truly sorry I wasn't thinking.

KwarK

United States42682 Posts

December 02 2010 22:09 GMT

#4000

My job is to not let the pilots under my command do that shit. My forgetting to check your fit is a massive fail on my part, just as much as you forgetting to put guns on your ship.