https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=421178&find=unread

That guy has been posting for years now about how I'm Bob FromMarketing. It's very strange. I have like 7 years of character/posting/corporation/killboard history behind me.

puerk

Germany855 Posts

May 02 2015 16:40 GMT

#39042

So BobFromMarketing is greedygoblin, who is somehow secretly running a large chunk of the Imperium while publicly claiming to defeat it?

puerk

Germany855 Posts

May 02 2015 23:18 GMT

#39043

I looked for a tool that gives me good asset estimates for a while and today i found http://evernus.com/ which pretty much does what i ever wanted. A bit suprised that it has not been recommended here (as far as i saw), any one any experiences with it? Or what do you use in its stead?

419

Russian Federation3632 Posts

May 05 2015 07:34 GMT

#39044

the latter half of this vid which has the POV of a logi anchor is pretty interesting - anchor makes a mistake and 12 scimitars die as a result because god forbid actually trying to keep transversal up against eagles in an AB ship, gotta approach someone to do that for you.

and eve claims to have a more intelligent playerbase than world of warcraft? I mean, I never played the latter seriously but surely the easiest raids seem to have more management requirements than that~

Oshuy

Netherlands529 Posts

May 05 2015 09:15 GMT

#39045

Main difference is that world of warcraft will have half the environment painted red, except a small "safe zone" where you cannot be hit, that will orbit the eagle. The requirement will not be "keep transversal up", it will be "stay out of red zone".

It can still be a bit difficult to manage with multiple targets and it makes the overall visual messy, but it is far easier to explain to the average player.

Warri

Germany3208 Posts

May 05 2015 12:10 GMT

#39046

WoW isnt easy. It's about the same as EVE. There is an easy mode and a hard mode and less than .1% finish the hard mode each tier. The other 99,9% are content with being bad and playing the easy mode, blaming their inability on the usual "im not a nerd like you, i have to work yadda yadda, no time".

Ramiel

United States1220 Posts

May 05 2015 22:46 GMT

#39047

I need to hot align, and panic warp more.

KwarK

United States44442 Posts

May 06 2015 00:37 GMT

#39048

A guy asked me three times for a price when I was selling dread characters for 13b. I sent him a mail back after the second one saying that for him I would do a special price of 13.5b. When I read the third one I sent him another saying to make that 14b for asking three times when the topic clearly stated 13b and 20 other people had all managed to read it without needing special attention.
He sent me a counter offer of 13.5b right then (was about 10pm last night) for the character sent immediately. I counter offered 14b and he could wait until I was home from work tonight for it because I was going to bed.

He sent the 14b.

KwarK's character sales. When we say "go fuck yourself", we mean it.

KwarK

United States44442 Posts

May 06 2015 01:18 GMT

#39049

[01:16:56] X ATM092 > insanely profitable using a power of 2 bonus
[01:16:58] X ATM092 > 3 plex to make
[01:17:05] Jones Yando > 3 plex?
[01:17:15] X ATM092 > you reverse redeem 3 plex
[01:17:16] Jones Yando > i thought dread alts took 6 months
[01:17:18] X ATM092 > go onto account management
[01:17:23] X ATM092 > and activate power of 2
[01:17:28] X ATM092 > you get a 6 month account for 3 plex
[01:17:36] Jones Yando > does it cost somthing?
[01:17:42] X ATM092 > yes
[01:17:44] X ATM092 > it costs 3 plex
[01:17:49] X ATM092 > are you slow?
[01:17:54] Jones Yando > no i meant the power of two thing
[01:17:56] X ATM092 > yes
[01:17:58] X ATM092 > it costs 3 plex
[01:18:03] X ATM092 > [01:17:28] X ATM092 > you get a 6 month account for 3 plex
[01:18:09] Jones Yando > alright

puerk

Germany855 Posts

May 06 2015 01:59 GMT

#39050

On May 06 2015 10:18 KwarK wrote:
[01:16:56] X ATM092 > insanely profitable using a power of 2 bonus
[01:16:58] X ATM092 > 3 plex to make
[01:17:05] Jones Yando > 3 plex?
[01:17:15] X ATM092 > you reverse redeem 3 plex
[01:17:16] Jones Yando > i thought dread alts took 6 months
[01:17:18] X ATM092 > go onto account management
[01:17:23] X ATM092 > and activate power of 2
[01:17:28] X ATM092 > you get a 6 month account for 3 plex
[01:17:36] Jones Yando > does it cost somthing?
[01:17:42] X ATM092 > yes
[01:17:44] X ATM092 > it costs 3 plex
[01:17:49] X ATM092 > are you slow?
[01:17:54] Jones Yando > no i meant the power of two thing
[01:17:56] X ATM092 > yes
[01:17:58] X ATM092 > it costs 3 plex
[01:18:03] X ATM092 > [01:17:28] X ATM092 > you get a 6 month account for 3 plex
[01:18:09] Jones Yando > alright

wow, thx for that tip.
finally i know how i will get my own dread pilot

do you guess this offer will get priced fully into chars on the bazaar or will it only be small bump?

KwarK

United States44442 Posts

May 06 2015 02:04 GMT

#39051

It'll make no difference because basically nobody takes advantage of it. Po2 is ridiculously profitable. Although dread alts take nearer 8 months.

puerk

Germany855 Posts

May 06 2015 02:20 GMT

#39052

yeah i realized that i will never fit it into 180 days as i tried to build a plan in evemon

KwarK

United States44442 Posts

May 06 2015 02:23 GMT

#39053

210 isn't unreasonable though. Look at my eveboards here for inspiration.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5699740#post5699740

puerk

Germany855 Posts

May 06 2015 02:31 GMT

#39054

that is what i did...

is there some acceleration in the first month of training?

with +4s and axing JDC 5 from the plan i dont get it under 240 days

KwarK

United States44442 Posts

May 06 2015 04:08 GMT

#39055

240 could be reasonable
You're optimising remaps and using all of them?

puerk

Germany855 Posts

May 06 2015 13:21 GMT

#39056

with 3 optimized remaps instead of 2 optimized ones, i get 239d instead of 241d, but still a far cry from 210^^

KwarK

United States44442 Posts

May 06 2015 14:02 GMT

#39057

Well maybe it's been 9 months since I last worked on this shit. (((

puerk

Germany855 Posts

May 06 2015 14:12 GMT

#39058

even with ~240 it is below 5 billion in investment, which sounds totally fine (for me) for a dread char that can solo some c5 capital escalations, the only issue is waiting 8 months to get there...

KwarK

United States44442 Posts

May 06 2015 14:18 GMT

#39059

If you only have 5b then you should find better things to invest in that can generate far higher returns. It's only if you've got more money than you can invest that these things become attractive due to their high potential for isk sinking and passive nature.

puerk

Germany855 Posts

May 06 2015 14:33 GMT

#39060

i know and understand that aswell, but currently the passive nature is a big enough boon to consider it...

the basical weighing is: can i realistically use that 5b now to generate 14b (or whatever the dread pilot will cost then) before the 8 months are over

i have 8b cash and 6b assets

doing station trading would be much more profitable (if done right) and would achive the goal stated above, but it annoys me too much that i can not plan when i will get returns and have to play the +0.01 isk game

that is why i currently guess the po2 self build dread pilot might be the way of least resistance: i know what i put in and what i guaranteed get out, without daily pressure to perform in the station trading game