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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19265 Posts
August 16 2012 14:42 GMT
#24661
3%s aren't cheap

half of hatchery flies HG grails and talons

gg
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jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
August 16 2012 15:07 GMT
#24662
On August 16 2012 23:31 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:18 jfourz wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:29 Mandini wrote:
On August 13 2012 19:22 jfourz wrote:
~elitepvp~ implants

A set of 3% implants and a hyperlink. By far my favorite quote.

implants mean no pod jumping, and even 3% aren't that cheap
i guess if all you do is high sec it's okay

Er, I only fly HG in null these days. You're just a baddie.


sick moros m8, good job you payed that ransom
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19265 Posts
August 16 2012 15:23 GMT
#24663
I am confused
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Viceorvirtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States273 Posts
August 16 2012 16:01 GMT
#24664
Hes refering to the time kwark got one of his moros tackled because his exit cyno dcd. He paid a ransom and they killed him anyway, so it was like a total 3-4 bil? loss after insurance. Really though you should compare it to somoething thats even remotely valueable like the freighter with kwarks faction ammo that got ganked. Or something more humiliating like the time he decided to move an unfit mael through aunenen (and had all his fittings and stuff in the cargo) or the dozens of other idiotic screw ups that kwark loves to do.

Heck, he used to lose faction fit drakes to mission rats and the best insult you can come up with is 'lol noob paid a ransom and died anyway'. I mean you could at the very least try to call him an idiot and list all the stupid things hes done. Next time use a bit more effort or people will think your completely retarded.

Speaking of which you watched the video didnt you? The 125mm atron gets out to 14k and suddenly cant hit at all. Nevermind the fact that he refuses to switch to uranium or plutonium. You can even see him able to hold at 18k with no issues while shooting and not hitting a damn thing. And your saying a fit with more damage and projection (which he clearly needs) is bad because it lacks tank. You fly the 125mm atron more like a rail ranis than anything because you have no range. Its like trying to explain the difference between an ac nanocane and an arty nanocane and your saying the artycane is bad because it doesnt have a great tank.

Somebody mind linking the vid of the artywolf? It might help jfourz understand how that type of ship is supposed to be flown.
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 16:11:43
August 16 2012 16:09 GMT
#24665
no vov, im replying to his loose "you're bad" with another loose "you're bad", and the reason i mention the moros is because it was pizza he lost it to

i understand how the fit is meant to be flown, you don't seem to understand that i don't think of it as a good way of flying. honestly about the video i didn't link it to back up my point, so i don't know why you keep bringing it up

e:
also "nevermind about ammo but heres an example where my argument is based off him not switching ammo" lol
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
nonentity
Profile Joined March 2012
160 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 16:42:03
August 16 2012 16:41 GMT
#24666
On August 17 2012 01:09 jfourz wrote:
i don't think of it as a good way of flying


Why not?
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Viceorvirtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States273 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 16:47:31
August 16 2012 16:46 GMT
#24667
The point is if he is effectively staying at the range he needs to be at for uranium and plutonium to be useful, hes taking no damage anyway so why does he need the tank? The 150mm atron can hit out to over 24k with antimatter, which means your doing more dps than the 125mm fit, at longer ranges, and both fits are taking no damage against most things at 15-28k.

The reason I bring up the vido is the fact that you used the fit saying it was better than the 150mm fit and the video (which uses the fit you gave) proves that it is in fact worse unless you intend to brawl, which as the video shows is something you can completely avoid.

Also you say you 'dont think of it as a good way of flying' your going to have to go into a bit more detail on that. Do you mean that you shouldnt attempt to rely on kiting people at 15-28k in a frigate? If so then your argument is immediately debunked by the popularity and effectiveness of the slicer and artywolf, which are completely unengagable by most things.

And just so i dont sound completely biased and have revo start going on about drawing things off and brawling them down I have one word for you: Enyo. Not only can it kill the bait frig but it can also kill the frigate gang it was baiting for, because it's an enyo and it can do that. Granted anything built specifically to kite can take the enyo out without a horrible amount of fuss, but get in scram range and provided the enyo isnt an idiot swapping ammo (such as the video, no idea wtf the guy was thinking) theres a pretty high chance it can take you out in 3-4 shots.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4222 Posts
August 16 2012 17:28 GMT
#24668
On August 16 2012 19:26 nonentity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:18 jfourz wrote:i was yelled at many times by kwark, and learned many things
then i went inactive for a while and got kicked


So mad?

Anyway, nice of you to post so quickly so I don't have to edit again.

Having read the start of the discussion, Impervious, if you really want to have the mid then something like;

[Atron, rails mwd]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Fourier Transform Tracking Program
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Warp Disruptor II

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S
[empty high slot]
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Ambit Extension I
Small Ancillary Current Router I

(as with yours, requires 3% cpu implant)

A shade slower/less agile, but very marginally. Main trade off you're making for that web is ~2km falloff, you have the same optimal/damage with one step up the ammo ladder (ie, uranium instead of plutonium, plut instead of am, etc). You also lose a bit of tracking ofc, but just fly to compensate for that, as with all kiters. Up to you how much you want the mid I guess...

On a related note, you might want to check the dps graphs for applied damage at range with different faction hybrid ammo, antimatter is nearly always worse than plut/uranium at the ranges a long point kiter operates at in reality due to the increased optimal ranges.

I like that. I'll definitely play around with both to see which one I like more. Thanks.

Also, I'm not too familiar with the different hybrid ammos. I've been strictly a minmatar pilot (with the exception of flying a drake). If you have any more tips for hybrid ammos, I'm all ears.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
August 16 2012 17:48 GMT
#24669
Hey is someone playing my toon? I've recently been getting these e-mails from Eve saying my subscription will end at so and so date, so I checked my Evemon (was luckily still installed) and I see my character has play time on it until mid-Sept. IIRC I didn't give my toon to anybody when I left.

Reset the password just in case, reinstalling Eve later today just to check out what's going on...
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44402 Posts
August 16 2012 17:50 GMT
#24670
On August 17 2012 00:07 jfourz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:31 KwarK wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:18 jfourz wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:29 Mandini wrote:
On August 13 2012 19:22 jfourz wrote:
~elitepvp~ implants

A set of 3% implants and a hyperlink. By far my favorite quote.

implants mean no pod jumping, and even 3% aren't that cheap
i guess if all you do is high sec it's okay

Er, I only fly HG in null these days. You're just a baddie.


sick moros m8, good job you payed that ransom

I currently own multiple carriers, fourteen moros, three revs and an avatar along with 600,000,000,000 isk invested in toons to fly that armada and you're seriously going to come in here and try and mock me because at one point I lost a moros. While VoV is correct that it was lost through no fault of my own and I did actually get fully reimbursed for it by the guy who failed to provide the agreed upon exit cyno but seriously, who the fuck cares. It's a moros. I can't conceive of how incredibly small minded you would have to be to think that is some kind of burn. Seriously man, if a moros is a big deal for you then you need to reassess how you're playing eve because that's just embarrassing, show some ambition for gods sake.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44402 Posts
August 16 2012 17:50 GMT
#24671
On August 17 2012 02:48 happyft wrote:
Hey is someone playing my toon? I've recently been getting these e-mails from Eve saying my subscription will end at so and so date, so I checked my Evemon (was luckily still installed) and I see my character has play time on it until mid-Sept. IIRC I didn't give my toon to anybody when I left.

Reset the password just in case, reinstalling Eve later today just to check out what's going on...

This would be against the EVE ToS so I can guarantee that nobody is playing on your toon.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 18:03:44
August 16 2012 18:02 GMT
#24672
On August 17 2012 02:50 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:07 jfourz wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:31 KwarK wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:18 jfourz wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:29 Mandini wrote:
On August 13 2012 19:22 jfourz wrote:
~elitepvp~ implants

A set of 3% implants and a hyperlink. By far my favorite quote.

implants mean no pod jumping, and even 3% aren't that cheap
i guess if all you do is high sec it's okay

Er, I only fly HG in null these days. You're just a baddie.


sick moros m8, good job you payed that ransom

I currently own multiple carriers, fourteen moros, three revs and an avatar along with 600,000,000,000 isk invested in toons to fly that armada and you're seriously going to come in here and try and mock me because at one point I lost a moros. While VoV is correct that it was lost through no fault of my own and I did actually get fully reimbursed for it by the guy who failed to provide the agreed upon exit cyno but seriously, who the fuck cares. It's a moros. I can't conceive of how incredibly small minded you would have to be to think that is some kind of burn. Seriously man, if a moros is a big deal for you then you need to reassess how you're playing eve because that's just embarrassing, show some ambition for gods sake.


"didn't want it anyway" huh, nice. in the same vein as my sick burn, i'm not sure why you think jumping in to say "you're just a baddie" to me was super cool

since all i'm doing is attracting flame i guess i'll just stop posting and apologize for everything up to now. i guess i just don't fit into the circle jerk, peace
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44402 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 18:14:17
August 16 2012 18:12 GMT
#24673
On August 17 2012 03:02 jfourz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 02:50 KwarK wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:07 jfourz wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:31 KwarK wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:18 jfourz wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:29 Mandini wrote:
On August 13 2012 19:22 jfourz wrote:
~elitepvp~ implants

A set of 3% implants and a hyperlink. By far my favorite quote.

implants mean no pod jumping, and even 3% aren't that cheap
i guess if all you do is high sec it's okay

Er, I only fly HG in null these days. You're just a baddie.


sick moros m8, good job you payed that ransom

I currently own multiple carriers, fourteen moros, three revs and an avatar along with 600,000,000,000 isk invested in toons to fly that armada and you're seriously going to come in here and try and mock me because at one point I lost a moros. While VoV is correct that it was lost through no fault of my own and I did actually get fully reimbursed for it by the guy who failed to provide the agreed upon exit cyno but seriously, who the fuck cares. It's a moros. I can't conceive of how incredibly small minded you would have to be to think that is some kind of burn. Seriously man, if a moros is a big deal for you then you need to reassess how you're playing eve because that's just embarrassing, show some ambition for gods sake.


"didn't want it anyway" huh, nice. in the same vein as my sick burn, i'm not sure why you think jumping in to say "you're just a baddie" to me was super cool

since all i'm doing is attracting flame i guess i'll just stop posting and apologize for everything up to now. i guess i just don't fit into the circle jerk, peace

Of course I wanted it, that's why I bought 14 more. Because I wanted them. I also wanted all the random drakes I lost and replaced and all the other things I've welped. You're a highly confused individual.

I said you're a baddie because you seem to think that 3% implants are the preserve of highsec risk averse PvP and would be too expensive to use in null. The only reason to think this is because you cannot afford to replace them. Inability to replace them makes you a baddie. You are a baddie. You think 50m of implants is too much to replace. That makes you bad.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19265 Posts
August 16 2012 18:18 GMT
#24674
tl;dr you're bad

Anyway, preliminary signups for the Intoxicated Roamu?
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Sylvex
Profile Joined January 2009
United States127 Posts
August 16 2012 18:24 GMT
#24675
On August 17 2012 03:18 tofucake wrote:
tl;dr you're bad

Anyway, preliminary signups for the Intoxicated Roamu?


When is it? I might want to go if you guys want non-intoxicated light tackle.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19265 Posts
August 16 2012 18:25 GMT
#24676
Sunday night
Somewhere between 8 and wheneverthefuck
preferably closer to 8
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
August 16 2012 18:31 GMT
#24677
@tofu: you have a calendar with all the times I can't play eve drunk on ot? Lame.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
chaokel
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia535 Posts
August 16 2012 18:32 GMT
#24678
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144693&find=unread

Thoughts?

Does 5% Bonus to Missile damage per level apply to rockets as well? I've read contradictory statements on this.
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
August 16 2012 18:33 GMT
#24679
i said i wouldn't post further but a personal attack is a bit much don't you think?

if you think tripling the cost of your atron fit for a slight benefit is the same as not being able to afford/replace something then i don't think i'm the disillusion one. why don't you dead space it too then? i also don't see how someone who was stupid enough to pay a ransom on a dread has any weight when calling other people bad, even if you do cling to the whole "lmao i have so much isk who carezz xd" defense
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4222 Posts
August 16 2012 18:33 GMT
#24680
On August 17 2012 03:25 tofucake wrote:
Sunday night
Somewhere between 8 and wheneverthefuck
preferably closer to 8

Why the fuck does it have to be sunday night? I work sunday nights -_-
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