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Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
August 20 2009 15:01 GMT
#1041
Over 150 caps were destroyed in J2-P. (Biggest capfight in EVE history?) Phreeze, the RAZOR FC, explains:

+ Show Spoiler [J2-P battle report] +
My perspective as RAZOR FC:

The Battle of J2-P

OR

How to wipeout the CEI dread hangar in an hour and a half.


Like Babe Ruth calling his shot, myself and one of Atlas' FCs were having a conversation in local about a day before this fight.

2009.08.16 23:31:47 ] Shadowminion > Why did you just engage that large pos
 2009.08.16 23:31:49 Shadowminion > with only 50 guys
2009.08.16 23:31:52 Shadowminion > and 20 dreads ??
 2009.08.16 23:31:56 Shadowminion > i don't understand
 2009.08.16 23:32:16 TikTok > why not
 2009.08.16 23:32:19 Shadowminion > was playing with fire tbh
 2009.08.16 23:32:33 Shadowminion > :p
 2009.08.16 23:32:52 Shadowminion > guess people are lazy speciall from our side lately
 2009.08.16 23:32:53 Shadowminion > and aint botherd
 2009.08.16 23:32:54 Shadowminion > :p
 2009.08.16 23:33:08 TikTok > oh come now, you act as if you are relevant :p
 2009.08.16 23:33:34 Shadowminion > you know wutt can happen in 10 minnuts
 2009.08.16 23:33:38 Shadowminion > if everybodey reacts
 2009.08.16 23:34:14 TikTok > we will see


Fast forward to the next day. After skirmishing with PL hac fleets while killing towers in J2-P, it seemed that Atlas and AAA would not be interfering with our siege of the station. I called an impromtu op for 2300, to finish off the last remaining tower in that system.

Curiously enough, Mr. Bobby O Atlas called an op for precisely the same time as the tower exiting reinforced. As the clock ticked closer towards the tower exit, our scouts reported 40-50 Atlas caps cynoing out of O-W to a perfect midpoint to hit J2-P. Additionally, an Atlas scout had been in J2-P for the last several hours. 2 and 2 were put together, and it was obvious: Atlas was going to drop us.

After ringing the batphone to Scavok of Goonfleet, and Shadoo of PL, I swapped Razor from battleships into capitals. We would be the bait for this engagement, a shitty deal for our first wave to be sure, but necessary to spark the fight we wanted. 10 goon dreads joined our fleet, and 40-50 PL stayed logged off waiting for Atlas to drop.

We cynoed to a safe spot, and aligned for the tower, giving PL and Goons a bit more time to set up. After warping, we sieged on the tower. It was at this point when this little snippet of jabber conversation occured:

(7:46:13 PM) Shadoo: calling blueballs
(7:47:49 PM) Phreeze: cyno
(7:47:57 PM) Phreeze: we are hotdropped at 30kkm

Unknown to us, AAA had also formed up a significant cap fleet, and an AAA hictor was the first to land on grid and open a cyno.

As PL logged in, Goons cynoed in next to us, giving us 15 RZR dreads 5 carriers, 10 goon dreads, vs nearly 80 Atlas/AAA dreads and carriers.

(7:48:06 PM) scavok: open cyno for us
(7:48:25 PM) Phreeze: up
(7:48:29 PM) scavok: tell me primaries
(7:48:32 PM) mr_rive: numbers?
(7:48:33 PM) mr_rive: a-z
(7:48:36 PM) Phreeze: 90
(7:49:00 PM) scavok: 90 hostile caps?
(7:52:20 PM) Phreeze: shadoo we are going to die

The early going was brutal. By the time PL cynoed in, we were down to 4 RZR dreads. For the first wave, we would lose all RZR caps and kill 9 enemy dreads.

(7:59:45 PM) mr_rive: theyre coming to us
(7:59:47 PM) mr_rive: 50 off us
(8:00:22 PM) Phreeze: all razor caps down

Thinks were not well for Pandemic Legion either. Due to a fuckup on titan bridge range, PL hics and dics were not bridged in initially, and while PL engaged at snipe, the hostiles quickly repositioned on them at close range and began ripping through their sniper dreads.

During this time, RZR capital pilots who had died at the fight were titan bridged back to Doril, and reshipped. Additional pilots were called in via jabber broadcasts.

(8:09:25 PM) Shadoo: h9ow is field looking
(8:09:42 PM) mykow: 60 bad guy caps 30 friendly
(8:10:38 PM) Phreeze: shadooo
(8:10:41 PM) Phreeze: we are coming back with 30 d

(8:12:38 PM) Shadoo: phreeze eta?
(8:12:42 PM) Phreeze: 5
(8:12:48 PM) Phreeze: issuing new caps

The second wave ready, we cynoed in at close range. RZR/PL now matched AAA/Atlas in dread count. Additionally, Minor Threat titan bridged a support fleet with an emphasis on dictors and hics, and permabubbled the entire enemy fleet. A wave of Goon support also arrived, after they jumpcloned to JLO in scalding pass and burned to us. Minutes after our second wave, PL jumped in theirs, and the fight swung into our favor. AAA/Atlas were now heavily outnumbered in caps, and completely outnumbered in support (they had nearly zero).

(8:28:36 PM) scavok: we can make up ground now
(8:28:42 PM) scavok: but this was an ugly start
(8:29:21 PM) Phreeze: shadoo
(8:29:24 PM) Phreeze: we have zero dreads left in doril
(8:29:28 PM) Phreeze: all corp hangars empty
(8:29:33 PM) dabigredboat: hehehe
(8:29:40 PM) Phreeze: :D
(8:29:41 PM) dabigredboat: how many blues to reds on field
(8:30:04 PM) mr_rive: 4-1 at leats now
(8:30:05 PM) scavok: blues overwhelming
(8:30:12 PM) Phreeze: they are bailing

After sweeping the field of remaining hostiles, a count was made: One hundred and fifty two capital wrecks were reported, and later after killboard statistics were compared, this number was revised to one hundred and sixty six capitals destroyed in the engagement, making this the deadliest capital battle in EVE history.

Allied Losses:

Pandemic Legion: 46 dreads
Goonfleet: 9 dreads
Razor: 35 dreads, 2 carriers

Enemy Losses:

Atlas: 28 Dreads, 8 carriers
AAA: 50 dreads

Final tally is 74 capitals killed, 92 lost. Razor held the field, and the tower was destroyed. Safe to say, AAA/Atlas came out having the slight advantage do to our initial failures in the first 20 minutes of the fight.

Good fight.
Tyraz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
New Zealand310 Posts
August 22 2009 02:58 GMT
#1042
OMG, that was pretty much the most intense story ever :| Lol i swear EVE makes a better spectator sport than actual game :p
100% Pure.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 25 2009 10:46 GMT
#1043
The TL eve corp is officially part of the most recent largest engagement in eve. Our alliance is sided with AAA/Atlas, which might be the losing side in the end but, hey - who the fuck cares? We're having fun. Also we had quite some guys participating in the BS heavy fight in F-5 directly related to the events described above. (5+ Minutes to load grid are fun, can one of the goonies here tell me how to fight under heavy lag please? =P)

While it ended badly for our side we did what our guys are best at afterwards - lead out a roaming gang to lolpwn stragglers and take a crap in front of peoples doors.

<3

... Also PL is awesome at hotdropping carriers on anything they can find. Poor lonely cruisers and battlecruisers get dropped by their bored carriers. :\
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
August 25 2009 14:25 GMT
#1044
On August 25 2009 19:46 r.Evo wrote:
... Also PL is awesome at hotdropping carriers on anything they can find. Poor lonely cruisers and battlecruisers get dropped by their bored carriers. :\



That is what happens when you have a virtually unlimited wallet and no major wars going on.
Derp
InKline
Profile Joined June 2004
144 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-06 15:31:22
September 06 2009 15:29 GMT
#1045
Today we (AAAtlas) have attacked and gained 3 PL R64 highends in lowsec (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Irmalin and some other one), at peak there were 1k people in local.Fleet is there but i don't know any orders about going for some other moons or going back to Catch.

Does -A- have a chance to hold those moons?

Will PL takeover them?

WIll conflict escalate into another Great War?

Original thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1174072

Cheers.
Against ALL Authorities
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 13 2009 18:51 GMT
#1046
Unlike many of you and your alliances/corps, Boydsan has already received offers to replace all the BPCs at no cost to him. ZAF is a family and we support our own.



No offense bro, but keeping any pilot this stupid in your "family" is is borderline insane. Who in their right mind puts 20 bil worth of crap into a t1 hauler?


lost it to AAA Citizens of all alliances too :cripes:


http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1177937

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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
September 13 2009 19:20 GMT
#1047
"Oh look I'll put lots of blue prints in a hauler and fly around without a cloak. What's the worse thing that could happen?"

It's probably more than 20bil too.
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
September 15 2009 16:03 GMT
#1048
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Kreedit
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden373 Posts
October 10 2009 23:21 GMT
#1049
The thread is gone... damn was really looking forward to catch up with recent events.

Anyone here who know the current situation?

Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
October 10 2009 23:35 GMT
#1050
On September 14 2009 04:20 bN` wrote:
"Oh look I'll put lots of blue prints in a hauler and fly around without a cloak. What's the worse thing that could happen?"

It's probably more than 20bil too.


Eh 20 Bil is kinda... eh nowadays.

EvE without a major war going on feels kinda empty though. This is the first time in EvE history there hasn't been a big "bad guy" that everyone hates.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
October 10 2009 23:35 GMT
#1051
On September 16 2009 01:03 Terranfan wrote:
Yeah, I've joined eve and am having fun. I'm debating what 0.0 alliance to join. I want to join a NC alliance. I really like the idea of flying in goonswarm, but I really wanna be part of goonfleet but cannot (And due to being twelve, I don't think my mom would be too happy about me being on that fourm.) So goonswarm is out. I dun wanna be a Pet or a elite PvP alliance so no PL or Legion of XxdeathxX. I really dunno. I think that after I leave the uni I'll just train for stealth bombers and go around AAA/atlas space and blow up stuff.

most 0.0 alliances dont want to take 12 year olds sadly.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-11 06:05:53
October 11 2009 06:03 GMT
#1052
On October 11 2009 08:21 Kreedit wrote:
The thread is gone... damn was really looking forward to catch up with recent events.

Anyone here who know the current situation?


The CoH thread (if that's what you're talking about) was moved to here:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=127118&page=109

It hasn't been updated for a while, though.

The current situation:

- In the east, Atlas + AAA + INIT + allies were losing space fast to RA + XIX + Goons + PL + Razor + allies. Then Goons, PL, and Razor all left and now RA is losing space fast to the southern coalition.

- PL + SOT + Evoke (+ others) are fighting against the NC (MH, MM, TCF, Razor, ME, WI) in the Pure Blind and Cloud Ring area. The fighting is focused solely on r64 moons. It's not a grudge war, afaik, but more for mutual fun, hence almost no titans have been used by either side. You can read more about it, including many battle reports, on Scrapheap Challenge:
http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=27646&start=420
Khos
Profile Joined October 2008
52 Posts
October 11 2009 07:11 GMT
#1053
On October 11 2009 08:21 Kreedit wrote:
The thread is gone... damn was really looking forward to catch up with recent events.

Anyone here who know the current situation?



Everyone seems to be waiting for Dominion.
YellOw/EffOrt/Jaedong+
Kreedit
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden373 Posts
October 11 2009 09:56 GMT
#1054
On October 11 2009 15:03 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2009 08:21 Kreedit wrote:
The thread is gone... damn was really looking forward to catch up with recent events.

Anyone here who know the current situation?


The CoH thread (if that's what you're talking about) was moved to here:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=127118&page=109

It hasn't been updated for a while, though.

The current situation:

- In the east, Atlas + AAA + INIT + allies were losing space fast to RA + XIX + Goons + PL + Razor + allies. Then Goons, PL, and Razor all left and now RA is losing space fast to the southern coalition.

- PL + SOT + Evoke (+ others) are fighting against the NC (MH, MM, TCF, Razor, ME, WI) in the Pure Blind and Cloud Ring area. The fighting is focused solely on r64 moons. It's not a grudge war, afaik, but more for mutual fun, hence almost no titans have been used by either side. You can read more about it, including many battle reports, on Scrapheap Challenge:
http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=27646&start=420


Thanks alot.

Look like i got some catching up to do now.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-11 15:48:52
October 11 2009 15:43 GMT
#1055
i might write a big-ish update post about political stuff in eve when i have some time, since there have been lots of relatively big things happening in the last few months (some concerning the tl corp and our alliance) that went uncovered here, mostly cause all of the "media" is controlled by goons and co and they like talking only about themselves and their victories. also, doesnt help that most of the other alliances dont even bother talking much of their conquests on forums, knowing that theyre just gonna get threadnaughted. big thing i've learned in eve after all this time is that forums are solely propaganda (there is never "independent" reporting, even people claiming that theyre being objective and even looking like they are, are in fact just very good at hiding their agenda), and the goons/nc/pl have GOOD propaganda. biggest misconception though was:

- In the east, Atlas + AAA + INIT + allies were losing space fast to RA + XIX + Goons + PL + Razor + allies. Then Goons, PL, and Razor all left and now RA is losing space fast to the southern coalition.


goons and co lost quite badly here, losing one of their main meatshield pets and a bunch of high-end moons and then just pulling out choosing to stay quiet about it. also, believeing that somebody "leaves" in eve when things are going well is quite naive

on another note, we're a "serious space-holding entity" now :D
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 21:07:09
October 14 2009 20:06 GMT
#1056
Awesome:





"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 19 2009 21:01 GMT
#1057
Mittani just posted chat logs of systematic chaos and claim it as the stirring of a rebellion:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1199814

Suck at posting with this laptop
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
October 19 2009 23:21 GMT
#1058
On August 22 2009 11:58 Tyraz wrote:
OMG, that was pretty much the most intense story ever :| Lol i swear EVE makes a better spectator sport than actual game :p


I've never played and I love this stuff..!
aka Moletrap
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-20 19:57:17
October 20 2009 19:55 GMT
#1059
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 20 2009 21:06 GMT
#1060
That's an amazing read. The game world sounds very interesting.
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