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AdamaS
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
119 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 15:05:24
June 28 2008 12:45 GMT
#1
MOD EDIT: http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/index.xml - FrozenArbiter

My opinion is that the environment looks beautiful but the gameplay in terms of fighting monsters is a bit meh... You can't really tell what's going on (similar to masses of Zerglings getting killed by Colossi in Starcraft 2).

As for the last scene in the video, + Show Spoiler +
LOL did the boss really eat half the Barbarian?
Famehunter
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada586 Posts
June 28 2008 12:51 GMT
#2
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
June 28 2008 12:53 GMT
#3
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


Barb looks really cool at least.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Cpt.Cocaine
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada299 Posts
June 28 2008 12:53 GMT
#4
Looks like the graphics are suffering from warcraft syndrome... again. With a bit of work this could have potential.
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
June 28 2008 12:54 GMT
#5
On June 28 2008 21:53 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
Looks like the graphics are suffering from warcraft syndrome... again. With a bit of work this could have potential.

Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
June 28 2008 12:57 GMT
#6
On June 28 2008 21:54 NotSupporting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:53 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
Looks like the graphics are suffering from warcraft syndrome... again. With a bit of work this could have potential.


I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
HypnoticPoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Singapore291 Posts
June 28 2008 12:57 GMT
#7
+ Show Spoiler +
LOL did the boss really eat half the Barbarian?
[/QUOTE]
Yeah. The other witch doctor got killed too
MEOW.
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
June 28 2008 13:24 GMT
#8
Is there a video on youtube?
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
June 28 2008 13:26 GMT
#9
3d, no innovation to gameplay. meh
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 13:31:03
June 28 2008 13:29 GMT
#10
On June 28 2008 21:53 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
Looks like the graphics are suffering from warcraft syndrome... again. With a bit of work this could have potential.
oh yes im sure that has nothing to do with that the lead artist of blizzard has been the same guy since FOREVER

the only way this "warcraft syndrome" is going to end is if samwise accidently gets hit by a truck but do you really want that? the fact that they've come up with a rather unique 3d art style in this world of generic robots is probably the best you're going to get for the next few decades in terms of 3d graphics
aaaaa
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
June 28 2008 13:47 GMT
#11
The Witch Doctor is just a tweaked Warlock from WoW. quite boring tbh
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Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
June 28 2008 13:59 GMT
#12
witchhunter = necromancer
well, at least there's alternate gender for each class now.
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Lisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Latvia376 Posts
June 28 2008 13:59 GMT
#13
Looked fun. HACK AND SLASH!
drakkon
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada260 Posts
June 28 2008 14:08 GMT
#14
Looks like this is going to take over the current MMOs i play when it comes out. This and Starcraft 2 .... fuck everything else.
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
June 28 2008 14:12 GMT
#15
It looks really good IMHO, I wonder what the system requirements would be.
The Prince of DroneS
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
June 28 2008 14:13 GMT
#16
aoc < d3. :O
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 28 2008 14:16 GMT
#17
Im not sure the quality of video you guys had, but seeing it live and blown up on 4 big screens. It looks sick. Im not blown away in terms of graphics but it has such a diablo feel, and the particle and destruction physics are amazing
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 14:30:00
June 28 2008 14:29 GMT
#18
On June 28 2008 22:47 GinNtoniC wrote:
The Witch Doctor is just a tweaked Warlock from WoW. quite boring tbh

What do you think warlocks are based off of?

OMFG THE SORCERESS IS JUST LIKE A MAGE. BE ORIGINAL BLIZZARD.

WTF AMAZON = HUNTER?????????
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parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1089 Posts
June 28 2008 14:29 GMT
#19
In the faq it says there'll only be 5 classes. Witch doctor seems to be the same as a necromancer with some fireballs. I hope they dont remove the sorcerres class in place of the witch doctor.
mostly harmless
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 14:38:33
June 28 2008 14:36 GMT
#20
On June 28 2008 22:26 BlackStar wrote:
3d, no innovation to gameplay. meh

Maybe you're not familiar with the Diablo franchise.

Diablo 1/2 are awful, user unfriendly linear games with a community full of scammers, cheaters and assholes, and the entire thing combines to be incredibly fun and addictive.

This is like complaining that there's not enough wholesome/kid-friendly stuff to do at a dog racing track.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
June 28 2008 14:38 GMT
#21
Cartoonish (N)

Looked low-paced too, which is in direct contest with what was announced on the panels.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 28 2008 14:40 GMT
#22
On June 28 2008 23:38 Thrill wrote:
Cartoonish (N)

Looked low-paced too, which is in direct contest with what was announced on the panels.

I noticed that too, but remember there are tons of speed upgrades in the D series. Every character starts slow as hell, and they're completely different at level 80.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17060 Posts
June 28 2008 14:55 GMT
#23
On June 28 2008 22:47 GinNtoniC wrote:
The Witch Doctor is just a tweaked Warlock from WoW. quite boring tbh


Honestly he actually looks like the Witch Doctor hero from DotA (which is just some kind of troll). He's even using some sort of attack that looks like Death Ward :/
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
June 28 2008 15:00 GMT
#24
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=668027

^ This thread is W.I.N

WIN!!! looks GREAT
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 28 2008 15:08 GMT
#25
On June 28 2008 22:26 BlackStar wrote:
3d, no innovation to gameplay. meh

Hehehe, sounds like how some people react to SC2.... :D
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 15:16:33
June 28 2008 15:16 GMT
#26
If anyone manages to download the 800mb gameplay video, (Download doesnt work for me ) please upload it somewhere or send it to me and I will. Seems like im not the only one having trouble with that download :p I feel like playing d2 now ;_;
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
June 28 2008 15:19 GMT
#27
Witch Doctor fighting~
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5460 Posts
June 28 2008 15:21 GMT
#28
he should still be called Necro :/

I'm just a bit disappointed about only 5 classes.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 28 2008 15:25 GMT
#29
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
June 28 2008 15:40 GMT
#30
On June 28 2008 23:55 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 22:47 GinNtoniC wrote:
The Witch Doctor is just a tweaked Warlock from WoW. quite boring tbh


Honestly he actually looks like the Witch Doctor hero from DotA (which is just some kind of troll). He's even using some sort of attack that looks like Death Ward :/


I guess you haven't played the regular game, so you're talking about dota?
I'll call Nada.
dyodyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Philippines578 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 15:50:34
June 28 2008 15:49 GMT
#31
On June 29 2008 00:16 DrainX wrote:
If anyone manages to download the 800mb gameplay video, (Download doesnt work for me ) please upload it somewhere or send it to me and I will. Seems like im not the only one having trouble with that download :p I feel like playing d2 now ;_;

Diablo 3 Gameplay Video
Part 1


Part 2


From: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26458559
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 28 2008 15:50 GMT
#32
The witchdoctor looks exactly like a revamped necromancer... I mean come on.

Summon, confuse, horrify, zombie wall (an attacking version of bone wall)

And they are only putting in 5 character classes, it says so in the faq. :[
UNFUCK YOURSELF
OakHill
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States168 Posts
June 28 2008 15:52 GMT
#33
I think as an esport, d3 will fall flat. Hopefully their next MMORPG will be better.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 28 2008 15:54 GMT
#34
On June 29 2008 00:52 OakHill wrote:
I think as an esport, d3 will fall flat. Hopefully their next MMORPG will be better.


I lol'd. Diablo as an esport?
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 28 2008 16:00 GMT
#35
On June 29 2008 00:54 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 00:52 OakHill wrote:
I think as an esport, d3 will fall flat. Hopefully their next MMORPG will be better.


I lol'd. Diablo as an esport?
iirc they used to have some limited Diablo on OGN; ie theyd give 2 clans with like 4/5 people each one hour to level up and get as many items as they could then they'd pvp

they were pretty fucking mad too o.O getting to like 45~ in that short time
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 28 2008 16:06 GMT
#36
On June 29 2008 01:00 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 00:54 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 29 2008 00:52 OakHill wrote:
I think as an esport, d3 will fall flat. Hopefully their next MMORPG will be better.


I lol'd. Diablo as an esport?
iirc they used to have some limited Diablo on OGN; ie theyd give 2 clans with like 4/5 people each one hour to level up and get as many items as they could then they'd pvp

they were pretty fucking mad too o.O getting to like 45~ in that short time


So it's like some crazy iron man tourney.

A lot of people have things like this, except you get like 15 minutes and some characters are restricted etc.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Morzas
Profile Joined August 2005
United States387 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 16:14:42
June 28 2008 16:07 GMT
#37
On June 28 2008 22:29 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:53 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
Looks like the graphics are suffering from warcraft syndrome... again. With a bit of work this could have potential.
oh yes im sure that has nothing to do with that the lead artist of blizzard has been the same guy since FOREVER

the only way this "warcraft syndrome" is going to end is if samwise accidently gets hit by a truck but do you really want that? the fact that they've come up with a rather unique 3d art style in this world of generic robots is probably the best you're going to get for the next few decades in terms of 3d graphics


Actually, D1 and D2 were originally made by a different company that was later bought out by Blizzard and renamed Blizzard North (although D2 had a little influence from Blizzard in California). They all did their own art, and when Blizzard was forced by Vivendi to make all Blizzard North employees move to the offices in California a lot of them left because they didn't want to move, many artists included.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 28 2008 16:12 GMT
#38
On June 29 2008 00:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgbUSsblCSQ

WHAT THE FUCK!
the girl looks like from Final Fantasy man! what the FUCK!
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Constantinius
Profile Joined June 2008
United States64 Posts
June 28 2008 16:14 GMT
#39
I was really bothered by that too evan
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Constantinius
Profile Joined June 2008
United States64 Posts
June 28 2008 16:15 GMT
#40
Only thing that bothers me about this game is the WoW-esque graphics. I am just sick and tired of looking at blocky shapes all the time. Everything else seems really awesome, and I like the direction they are going with the gameplay. Seems like they want more choices in combat.
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
June 28 2008 16:18 GMT
#41
On June 29 2008 00:08 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 22:26 BlackStar wrote:
3d, no innovation to gameplay. meh

Hehehe, sounds like how some people react to SC2.... :D



It's kind of my reaction to SC2. Except they could do a lot of fine tuning and redesign the game with esports in mind from the very start.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
June 28 2008 16:19 GMT
#42
And about "only 5 classes", Diablo 2 also only had 5 classes until the expansion. It's actually a "worry" I have about SC2- SC2 starts with the same number of units as SC, so what will be added in the expansion? I'm sure they'll add more units, but it just seems like a slight worry for me.

Also, although I know WoW isn't held in great esteem here, it's undeniable that it's the greatest, most in-depth MMORPG ever made, especially if you look at the quality of the world/raids (sorry if my terminology sucks, I don't play myself). If Blizzard can create a hack and slash game with the same depth, it will be absolutely amazing. I can't wait for D3.
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7016 Posts
June 28 2008 16:26 GMT
#43
I agree with the people saying it looks too cartoonish right now, I always regarded Diablo as the more mature game series and being the most non-cartoonish game line, but with this new game it looks like just another .. non-diablo hack'n'slash. :/

Hopefully they'll tweak it a bit.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 28 2008 16:32 GMT
#44
The gameplay is tight! Has exactly the right atomsphere.
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 28 2008 16:35 GMT
#45
I hope pvp is as good in d3 as it was in d2...
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9580 Posts
June 28 2008 16:47 GMT
#46
Wow! That thing is looking soo good =D! I'm really sad to say it but I'm more excited for D3 then SC2 !! If only they turned down the saturation and brightness it would look even better. Another thing that bothers me is the size of that big boss that ate the barbarian, I just think it's too big.
It looks so WoW'esque also, not that it's a bad thing...
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TheOvermind77
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States923 Posts
June 28 2008 16:49 GMT
#47
On June 29 2008 01:15 Constantinius wrote:
Only thing that bothers me about this game is the WoW-esque graphics. I am just sick and tired of looking at blocky shapes all the time. Everything else seems really awesome, and I like the direction they are going with the gameplay. Seems like they want more choices in combat.


I don't see where all of you guys are seeing these "WoW" graphics. The game looks very dark and visceral, I'm very excited. This is exactly what I was expecting D3 to be like and I am glad.

Lol this looks NOTHING like WoW.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20161 Posts
June 28 2008 16:51 GMT
#48
i just wanna see cinematics of tyrael being a BAMF
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9580 Posts
June 28 2008 16:51 GMT
#49
Generally the in-house enviroment (aka the dungeons) + the map in the right top corner remind me most of WoW.
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
June 28 2008 16:53 GMT
#50
I dislike the red orbs. :|
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GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
June 28 2008 16:55 GMT
#51
Graphics are wtf beautiful...

cinematics ARE THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN IN A GAME.

not sure if i'll buy it because of the graphics or not.

http://www.battle.net/war3/orc/units/witchdoctor.shtml

can't wait for healing wards and stasis traps.
d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
June 28 2008 17:01 GMT
#52
Witch doctor looks so ballin. Swarm!
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LordofToast
Profile Joined May 2008
United Kingdom250 Posts
June 28 2008 17:05 GMT
#53
On June 29 2008 01:07 exo6yte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 22:29 Zanno wrote:
On June 28 2008 21:53 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
Looks like the graphics are suffering from warcraft syndrome... again. With a bit of work this could have potential.
oh yes im sure that has nothing to do with that the lead artist of blizzard has been the same guy since FOREVER

the only way this "warcraft syndrome" is going to end is if samwise accidently gets hit by a truck but do you really want that? the fact that they've come up with a rather unique 3d art style in this world of generic robots is probably the best you're going to get for the next few decades in terms of 3d graphics


Actually, D1 and D2 were originally made by a different company that was later bought out by Blizzard and renamed Blizzard North (although D2 had a little influence from Blizzard in California). They all did their own art, and when Blizzard was forced by Vivendi to make all Blizzard North employees move to the offices in California a lot of them left because they didn't want to move, many artists included.


The ones who were left went on to make hellgate which was complete and utter trite.

I guess it separated the wheat from the chaff.

It looks like its going to deliver exactly what I want from a Diablo sequal. More of the same but better. Anyone complaining its hard to tell what is going on go back an play diablo and watch all the chaos.

The rag dolls are actually amazing.
Reflex
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada703 Posts
June 28 2008 17:07 GMT
#54
On June 29 2008 02:05 LordofToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 01:07 exo6yte wrote:
On June 28 2008 22:29 Zanno wrote:
On June 28 2008 21:53 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
Looks like the graphics are suffering from warcraft syndrome... again. With a bit of work this could have potential.
oh yes im sure that has nothing to do with that the lead artist of blizzard has been the same guy since FOREVER

the only way this "warcraft syndrome" is going to end is if samwise accidently gets hit by a truck but do you really want that? the fact that they've come up with a rather unique 3d art style in this world of generic robots is probably the best you're going to get for the next few decades in terms of 3d graphics


Actually, D1 and D2 were originally made by a different company that was later bought out by Blizzard and renamed Blizzard North (although D2 had a little influence from Blizzard in California). They all did their own art, and when Blizzard was forced by Vivendi to make all Blizzard North employees move to the offices in California a lot of them left because they didn't want to move, many artists included.


The ones who were left went on to make hellgate which was complete and utter trite.

I guess it separated the wheat from the chaff.

It looks like its going to deliver exactly what I want from a Diablo sequal. More of the same but better. Anyone complaining its hard to tell what is going on go back an play diablo and watch all the chaos.

The rag dolls are actually amazing.


Yes,
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32135 Posts
June 28 2008 17:11 GMT
#55
On June 28 2008 23:16 Kennigit wrote:
Im not sure the quality of video you guys had, but seeing it live and blown up on 4 big screens. It looks sick. Im not blown away in terms of graphics but it has such a diablo feel, and the particle and destruction physics are amazing


Yeah, I thought it looked very nice. It just seems like this will require a real lot of juice to play :x
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32135 Posts
June 28 2008 17:12 GMT
#56
On June 29 2008 01:06 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 01:00 Plexa wrote:
On June 29 2008 00:54 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 29 2008 00:52 OakHill wrote:
I think as an esport, d3 will fall flat. Hopefully their next MMORPG will be better.


I lol'd. Diablo as an esport?
iirc they used to have some limited Diablo on OGN; ie theyd give 2 clans with like 4/5 people each one hour to level up and get as many items as they could then they'd pvp

they were pretty fucking mad too o.O getting to like 45~ in that short time


So it's like some crazy iron man tourney.

A lot of people have things like this, except you get like 15 minutes and some characters are restricted etc.


Iron man matches were always fun =p
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
June 28 2008 17:15 GMT
#57
On June 29 2008 01:49 TheOvermind77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 01:15 Constantinius wrote:
Only thing that bothers me about this game is the WoW-esque graphics. I am just sick and tired of looking at blocky shapes all the time. Everything else seems really awesome, and I like the direction they are going with the gameplay. Seems like they want more choices in combat.


I don't see where all of you guys are seeing these "WoW" graphics. The game looks very dark and visceral, I'm very excited. This is exactly what I was expecting D3 to be like and I am glad.

Lol this looks NOTHING like WoW.


qft
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 28 2008 17:19 GMT
#58
Oh noes, what HGL and Mythos do
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 28 2008 17:38 GMT
#59
Wow I can't wait to play this game... Seriously, the Diablo formula is tried and true, and they're going to improve on almost everything... Especially, I'm looking forward to anti-cheating and anti-hack protection, especially since they have more experience with WoW right now...

And, the graphics are really nice, IMO... They're pretty fucking brutal and bloody, the way I like it and the way Diablo should be...

Everything is looking really nice... I wonder when they're going to release it though ><... 1 year? 2 years?
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
June 28 2008 17:47 GMT
#60
I can not wait for this game OMG!
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
June 28 2008 17:49 GMT
#61
the site looks real laggy, since it just got started, haha
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 28 2008 17:51 GMT
#62
I think it's going to be so hilarious if they don't put the paladin in again... they need to .
If they don't put in the assassin I'm going to kill myself... along with a chaos runeword. I love my ww sins.

At least we know barb is in there with ww so I can make a bvc again :D.

Actually, does anyone know if they will put teleport into the game? It made pvm in d2 incredibly easy. Especially in the 1.10 patch... where everyone got teleport from enigma.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
June 28 2008 17:53 GMT
#63
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


Cough they would never Demon Hunters is for WC lulz <3 D2 <3 D3
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
June 28 2008 17:55 GMT
#64
On June 29 2008 02:51 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Actually, does anyone know if they will put teleport into the game? It made pvm in d2 incredibly easy. Especially in the 1.10 patch... where everyone got teleport from enigma.

The problem with that wasn't the Teleport skill but the duped enigmas giving it to everyone who shouldn't have it.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 18:05:18
June 28 2008 18:04 GMT
#65
On June 29 2008 02:55 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 02:51 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Actually, does anyone know if they will put teleport into the game? It made pvm in d2 incredibly easy. Especially in the 1.10 patch... where everyone got teleport from enigma.

The problem with that wasn't the Teleport skill but the duped enigmas giving it to everyone who shouldn't have it.


I disagree.

The major problem with teleport is that you need to have it if you want to mf effectively. Pre-1.10 and even early in the ladder season now this means that everyone is forced to play a sorc. And... sorcs are boring.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
ggzerg.onFire1
Profile Joined June 2008
United States26 Posts
June 28 2008 18:13 GMT
#66
i love Tyrael. he is so kool
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
June 28 2008 18:25 GMT
#67
So many whiners lol, this game looks sick as shit.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
June 28 2008 18:33 GMT
#68
Fucking awesome game! As soon as I saw the openning scene in the gameplay video, and I heard the music and saw the barb moving then slashing away at the ghouls, I knew I was in the world of Diablo. Seriously, the map layouts, the graphics and new gameplay is just incredible. Why the hell am I not already playing this game?

Between this and SC2, I probably won't have time for anything else.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
June 28 2008 18:35 GMT
#69
Anyone up for starting new d2lod chars in about one hour on europe ?
Narrator
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States868 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 18:42:26
June 28 2008 18:39 GMT
#70
If anyone wants to grab the gameplay trailer without having to use the stupid Blizzard Downloader, I've extracted the torrent for it here.

http://www.filedropper.com/diablo3-gameplaytraileren-us-downloader

Just so you guys know, Blizzard Downloader doesn't let you limit your upload speed. If you're on a normal connection like me, it'll lag.

EDIT: FileDropper has been acting stupid lately (I saw it coming. -_-).

Here is another link: http://www.mediafire.com/?zicwvm4zmto.

800 mb download btw. It should be in HD resolution like the artwork and cinematic trailers I grabbed. I'll post those up if anyone wants to get them too.
EnergyTraction
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada233 Posts
June 28 2008 18:40 GMT
#71
On June 29 2008 00:40 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 23:55 Empyrean wrote:
On June 28 2008 22:47 GinNtoniC wrote:
The Witch Doctor is just a tweaked Warlock from WoW. quite boring tbh


Honestly he actually looks like the Witch Doctor hero from DotA (which is just some kind of troll). He's even using some sort of attack that looks like Death Ward :/


I guess you haven't played the regular game, so you're talking about dota?


lol. read what he said

Plexa did they really get to level 45 in an hour with no rushing? Seems impossible without someone boosting you to hell CS runs or something, because there's 0 way to get to that level in one hour from scratch
He who adores the Beast shall drink of the wrath of God
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
June 28 2008 19:19 GMT
#72
On June 28 2008 22:26 BlackStar wrote:
3d, no innovation to gameplay. meh

I wish SC2 was like this...
Super serious.
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
June 28 2008 19:27 GMT
#73
yeah there isnt exactly a way osible to mega fail diablo 3, we've been waiting for it as long as sc2 if not longer.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
June 28 2008 19:33 GMT
#74
This game looks great!

but sadly if it's pay-to-play i will never pick this one up.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 28 2008 19:39 GMT
#75
On June 29 2008 04:33 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
This game looks great!

but sadly if it's pay-to-play i will never pick this one up.


If it's pay to play or any game that will be hosted through Battle.net then I will seriously rethink about buying the game.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zdd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1463 Posts
June 28 2008 19:40 GMT
#76
On June 29 2008 03:40 EnergyTraction wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 00:40 lololol wrote:
On June 28 2008 23:55 Empyrean wrote:
On June 28 2008 22:47 GinNtoniC wrote:
The Witch Doctor is just a tweaked Warlock from WoW. quite boring tbh


Honestly he actually looks like the Witch Doctor hero from DotA (which is just some kind of troll). He's even using some sort of attack that looks like Death Ward :/


I guess you haven't played the regular game, so you're talking about dota?


lol. read what he said

Plexa did they really get to level 45 in an hour with no rushing? Seems impossible without someone boosting you to hell CS runs or something, because there's 0 way to get to that level in one hour from scratch

it's possible, if you make 3 simultaneous accounts: regular character, enchantress with leaf staff, and warcry barb
but you'd have to have gosu micro or follow bots to actually do that yourself.
All you need in life is a strong will to succeed and unrelenting determination. If you meet these prerequisites, you can become anything you want with absolutely no luck, fortune or natural ability.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 19:56:15
June 28 2008 19:55 GMT
#77
On June 29 2008 04:40 zdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 03:40 EnergyTraction wrote:
On June 29 2008 00:40 lololol wrote:
On June 28 2008 23:55 Empyrean wrote:
On June 28 2008 22:47 GinNtoniC wrote:
The Witch Doctor is just a tweaked Warlock from WoW. quite boring tbh


Honestly he actually looks like the Witch Doctor hero from DotA (which is just some kind of troll). He's even using some sort of attack that looks like Death Ward :/


I guess you haven't played the regular game, so you're talking about dota?


lol. read what he said

Plexa did they really get to level 45 in an hour with no rushing? Seems impossible without someone boosting you to hell CS runs or something, because there's 0 way to get to that level in one hour from scratch

it's possible, if you make 3 simultaneous accounts: regular character, enchantress with leaf staff, and warcry barb
but you'd have to have gosu micro or follow bots to actually do that yourself.



Your warcry barb wil suck if he starts from level 1 too. Same for enchantress i guess. If you use higher level characters it is like a rush.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
June 28 2008 20:08 GMT
#78
What i dont understand is the people that keep complaining about the game not being good enough
holy shit people, get a grip, it'll be as good as diablo II but fucking awesomer
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
TehKris
Profile Joined October 2006
Norway322 Posts
June 28 2008 20:10 GMT
#79
It is not impossible, just requires a unique gameplan. Tristruns, toombruns, baalruns. Can be done.
Pro Red Alert 2 gamer, aka TR)Microzone on sc.
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1089 Posts
June 28 2008 20:19 GMT
#80
I will buy this game if there are sorceresses with frozen orb and teleport.

Even if its all bright, colorful, cartoonish and has "troll" witch doctors like World of Warcraft.
mostly harmless
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
June 28 2008 20:21 GMT
#81
Looks great and I'm glad that the barbarian is back, but what about the paladin? Wouldn't it make sense for the holy knight to be back in it? I like how you can cause destruction in the environment and yes the whirlwind is back.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
June 28 2008 20:29 GMT
#82
I would like at least 10 classes for d3!
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14911 Posts
June 28 2008 20:31 GMT
#83
oh man this could be another huge time drain
must...resist..
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 28 2008 20:39 GMT
#84


Chills, man
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
June 28 2008 20:46 GMT
#85
On June 29 2008 05:39 Gokey wrote:
Chills, man



I'm going to watch that alot of times till the game comes out..

The reaction when diablo is shown in the trailer followed by the title is just awesome
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 21:01:10
June 28 2008 20:58 GMT
#86
Wow it looks so good!

Anyone actually know

if it will be pay to play or not?
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
June 28 2008 21:02 GMT
#87
On June 29 2008 03:39 Narrator wrote:
If anyone wants to grab the gameplay trailer without having to use the stupid Blizzard Downloader, I've extracted the torrent for it here.

http://www.filedropper.com/diablo3-gameplaytraileren-us-downloader

Just so you guys know, Blizzard Downloader doesn't let you limit your upload speed. If you're on a normal connection like me, it'll lag.

EDIT: FileDropper has been acting stupid lately (I saw it coming. -_-).

Here is another link: http://www.mediafire.com/?zicwvm4zmto.

800 mb download btw. It should be in HD resolution like the artwork and cinematic trailers I grabbed. I'll post those up if anyone wants to get them too.

Exactly what I came here for. (but non torrent form) Any chance you can upload to megaupload or something?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 21:22:17
June 28 2008 21:22 GMT
#88
They had better fucking put a sorc and zon in there.
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5460 Posts
June 28 2008 21:23 GMT
#89
I would bet $1000 it's not pay-to-play. Any takers? I'm willing to honour the bet in a few years when the game's released
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
June 28 2008 21:37 GMT
#90
i love the new enviroments. I cant expect much from a different gameplay because thats how diablo has been playing all along. The graphics may suffer from a Warcraft syndrom but i hope in the end they will play out really good. I mean its just a super early version of the game
Teamliquidian townie
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
June 28 2008 21:54 GMT
#91
lol @ when the barbarian talks with cain.

"come, stay a while and..."
"enough idle chatter!"
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1089 Posts
June 28 2008 22:01 GMT
#92
On June 29 2008 06:54 CTStalker wrote:
lol @ when the barbarian talks with cain.

"come, stay a while and..."
"enough idle chatter!"

No one got time to listen to Cain's stories. They're to busy killing monsters for exp, items and glory.
mostly harmless
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
June 28 2008 23:01 GMT
#93
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7807/itshouldrh5.jpg

This man is a genious.
LordofToast
Profile Joined May 2008
United Kingdom250 Posts
June 28 2008 23:01 GMT
#94
I bet £100 the amazon isnt going to be in it.

My logic is this... Classes can now be either gender so an Amazon male wouldnt really fit.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 28 2008 23:03 GMT
#95
I keep thinking about this game.

I am sooooooo hyped! haha reminds me of the D2 days [:
Too bad it's gonna take one year or more (probably more, but damnit!)

#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 28 2008 23:20 GMT
#96
watch me quit sc
altogether
for d3.
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
June 28 2008 23:32 GMT
#97
LOL good bye sc, hello d3
SlickR12345
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Macedonia408 Posts
June 28 2008 23:32 GMT
#98
it looks wicked sick you noobs. Graphics are great, i don't know if you watched some stupid 1pixel cam job so the graphics looked bad for you, but for us who watched in high definition the graphics look great.
There is the new spells system if you are too noobs to hear and see, which can be easily used with keys or mouse.
Also interactive environments, physics, in-game story mode, more lore quests, cooperative play over battle.net, customized armor types for each class, weapons enchantment, no HP potions.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-28 23:36:48
June 28 2008 23:36 GMT
#99
On June 29 2008 05:19 parkin wrote:
I will buy this game if there are sorceresses with frozen orb and teleport.

Even if its all bright, colorful, cartoonish and has "troll" witch doctors like World of Warcraft.


I

hate

orb

sorcs.

THEY RUN TOO MUCH GAHHH.

Edit: If they don't put in assassins, I think I'm going to slit.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
June 28 2008 23:36 GMT
#100
On June 29 2008 08:01 Thrill wrote:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7807/itshouldrh5.jpg

This man is a genious.

That's awesome.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
June 28 2008 23:39 GMT
#101
why would take the fire out of the flame of SC2 with this annoncement?
555, kthxbai
suxN
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Finland1167 Posts
June 29 2008 00:06 GMT
#102
BARDS COME BACK
I dont want to be totally out :3
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
June 29 2008 00:18 GMT
#103
looks awesome :D
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
June 29 2008 00:28 GMT
#104
On June 29 2008 09:06 suxN wrote:
BARDS COME BACK


zomg yes!
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 29 2008 00:37 GMT
#105
Actually... I wish they had more character classes. Only having 5 seems like a huge restriction, unless the characters' skills are all very viable for PvP/PvM.

Anyone know if they are still using runes/charms/3 skill tree setup?
UNFUCK YOURSELF
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 29 2008 00:43 GMT
#106
I just hope they bring back the Paladin.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Reflex
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada703 Posts
June 29 2008 00:52 GMT
#107
On June 29 2008 09:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I just hope they bring back the Paladin.


Just not charge.

Or smite.

Or fist of the heavens.

You know what, no, I hope they don't bring back the Paladin. :/
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
June 29 2008 01:08 GMT
#108
On June 29 2008 09:37 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Actually... I wish they had more character classes. Only having 5 seems like a huge restriction, unless the characters' skills are all very viable for PvP/PvM.

Anyone know if they are still using runes/charms/3 skill tree setup?


They'll probably add more classes when the expansion comes out like LoD.
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
June 29 2008 01:09 GMT
#109
On June 29 2008 08:36 mahnini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 08:01 Thrill wrote:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7807/itshouldrh5.jpg

This man is a genious.

That's awesome.

r.i.p. Bud Shank May 27, 1926 - April 2, 2009
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 29 2008 01:20 GMT
#110
On June 29 2008 09:52 Reflex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 09:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I just hope they bring back the Paladin.


Just not charge.

Or smite.

Or fist of the heavens.

You know what, no, I hope they don't bring back the Paladin. :/


Except... all of those things are ez to counter .
UNFUCK YOURSELF
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4000 Posts
June 29 2008 01:25 GMT
#111
The color filters are nice, but he put in some kind of grain as well which is a bit over the top, now nothing looks smooth at all. A bit of grain would be acceptable tho. But i agree with the reduction in brightness and contrast.

Oh and it should be 'what it looks like' instead of 'how it looks like'...
Sir.Kimmel
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States785 Posts
June 29 2008 01:37 GMT
#112
all I want is a druid with hurricane... thats all I need really.
Lets throw in Canada into the mix and we can rename our country to Camerico. --Klogon
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 29 2008 01:37 GMT
#113
Anybody else rather have a Necro than this witch?
Xiberia
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden634 Posts
June 29 2008 01:47 GMT
#114
I actually like what i've seen so far from the Witch Doctor. Just get rid of that lame feather...hat...thing...
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
June 29 2008 01:49 GMT
#115
On June 29 2008 10:37 Klogon wrote:
Anybody else rather have a Necro than this witch?

Yeah
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
June 29 2008 01:54 GMT
#116
On June 29 2008 10:37 Klogon wrote:
Anybody else rather have a Necro than this witch?


Yeah second I saw this new character I was kinda sad because its obviously a replacement for the necro, Im gonna miss skeletons/curses and stuff. It'll probably still be awesome though, Blizzard has yet to disappoint me with a game.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 29 2008 02:05 GMT
#117
necromancer please come back T.T

I didn't use it though, but I don't really like Witch Doctor.
=/
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 29 2008 02:07 GMT
#118
On June 29 2008 10:37 Klogon wrote:
Anybody else rather have a Necro than this witch?


Um... DID YOU SEE THE ZOMBIE WALL?

It looks like some sort of crazy nking machine, just put one up in front of a town.

Lol, but besides that, I miss the necro. I kinda hope it is replaced by a similar character, especially the bone aspects of it. Ie another character that can get ~5k range physical damage and has good frames.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
SlickR12345
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Macedonia408 Posts
June 29 2008 02:15 GMT
#119
diabloii.net have added the diablo 3 developer panel full hour video
http://www.incgamers.com/Videos/42/Diablo-3-Developer-Panel
alien3456
Profile Joined June 2007
United States115 Posts
June 29 2008 02:22 GMT
#120
Oh my god I can't stand people who bitch about "My favorite X isn't in the new one. I'm not buying it if X isn't in it". Fuck off then.

And the bright colors are part of what made Diablo 2 look amazing. Blizzard doesn't need a lesson in color theory.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
June 29 2008 02:29 GMT
#121
They should make a Diablo III DotA mod.

That would be just... awsrdome.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
June 29 2008 02:35 GMT
#122
On June 29 2008 11:29 Mynock wrote:
They should make a Diablo III DotA mod.

That would be just... awsrdome.


I can't tell if you're serious or not...
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
June 29 2008 02:45 GMT
#123
suddenly i have 0 interest for sc2 -,-;
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 29 2008 02:47 GMT
#124
Oh man, I can't wait to get my hands on this game. Killing zombies 'n shit never seemed so fun.
mistapooh
Profile Joined March 2007
United States376 Posts
June 29 2008 02:49 GMT
#125
Damn it, I already have enough hobbies as it is lol. This game will come out the same year I graduate college and working full time. I don't know what to do with my life, work or d3 : (.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
June 29 2008 02:50 GMT
#126
On June 29 2008 11:07 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 10:37 Klogon wrote:
Anybody else rather have a Necro than this witch?


Um... DID YOU SEE THE ZOMBIE WALL?

It looks like some sort of crazy nking machine, just put one up in front of a town.

Lol, but besides that, I miss the necro. I kinda hope it is replaced by a similar character, especially the bone aspects of it. Ie another character that can get ~5k range physical damage and has good frames.


physical?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
June 29 2008 02:53 GMT
#127
This game just seems much more coherent and interesting than SC2.

I didn't think something like witch doctor would be interesting - but the direction they went with it was really cool. I'm still waiting for something in SC2 to wow me.
tpfkan
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 29 2008 03:03 GMT
#128
Diablo III honestly excites me far more than Starcraft II at this point. The Witch Doctor looks fucking sick, Soul Harvest in particular.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 03:26:32
June 29 2008 03:26 GMT
#129
On June 29 2008 11:50 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 11:07 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 29 2008 10:37 Klogon wrote:
Anybody else rather have a Necro than this witch?


Um... DID YOU SEE THE ZOMBIE WALL?

It looks like some sort of crazy nking machine, just put one up in front of a town.

Lol, but besides that, I miss the necro. I kinda hope it is replaced by a similar character, especially the bone aspects of it. Ie another character that can get ~5k range physical damage and has good frames.


physical?


Yes, physical.

On June 29 2008 11:35 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 11:29 Mynock wrote:
They should make a Diablo III DotA mod.

That would be just... awsrdome.


I can't tell if you're serious or not...


It doesn't matter, it will be awesome even if someone does make it as a joke.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
June 29 2008 03:29 GMT
#130
On June 29 2008 12:26 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 11:50 Mindcrime wrote:
On June 29 2008 11:07 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 29 2008 10:37 Klogon wrote:
Anybody else rather have a Necro than this witch?


Um... DID YOU SEE THE ZOMBIE WALL?

It looks like some sort of crazy nking machine, just put one up in front of a town.

Lol, but besides that, I miss the necro. I kinda hope it is replaced by a similar character, especially the bone aspects of it. Ie another character that can get ~5k range physical damage and has good frames.


physical?


Yes, physical.


And how is that?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 03:50:23
June 29 2008 03:43 GMT
#131
Maybe the Witch Doctor is a hybrid, hell I just hope we are still able to summon a Golem. I loved my Blood Golem
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 03:44:06
June 29 2008 03:43 GMT
#132
On June 29 2008 12:29 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 12:26 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 29 2008 11:50 Mindcrime wrote:
On June 29 2008 11:07 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 29 2008 10:37 Klogon wrote:
Anybody else rather have a Necro than this witch?


Um... DID YOU SEE THE ZOMBIE WALL?

It looks like some sort of crazy nking machine, just put one up in front of a town.

Lol, but besides that, I miss the necro. I kinda hope it is replaced by a similar character, especially the bone aspects of it. Ie another character that can get ~5k range physical damage and has good frames.


physical?


Yes, physical.


And how is that?


The damage is physical damage. That's why amplify damage works with spear/spirit.

On June 29 2008 12:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Maybe the Witch Doctor is a hybrid, hell I just we are able to summon a Golem. I loved my Blood Golem


Lol, try a clay golem .
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
June 29 2008 03:49 GMT
#133
On June 29 2008 12:43 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 12:29 Mindcrime wrote:
On June 29 2008 12:26 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 29 2008 11:50 Mindcrime wrote:
On June 29 2008 11:07 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 29 2008 10:37 Klogon wrote:
Anybody else rather have a Necro than this witch?


Um... DID YOU SEE THE ZOMBIE WALL?

It looks like some sort of crazy nking machine, just put one up in front of a town.

Lol, but besides that, I miss the necro. I kinda hope it is replaced by a similar character, especially the bone aspects of it. Ie another character that can get ~5k range physical damage and has good frames.


physical?


Yes, physical.


And how is that?


The damage is physical damage. That's why amplify damage works with spear/spirit.


Uh... no. The damage is magic and amp doesn't help it.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20161 Posts
June 29 2008 04:06 GMT
#134
so is that gonna be an MMO or not?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 29 2008 04:10 GMT
#135
Doesn't look like D3 is the next gen MMO, seeing how on the job listing D3 icons are already visible and the
[image loading]
is still being shown next to some job positions. Probably Universe of StarCraft.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24773 Posts
June 29 2008 04:15 GMT
#136
Ironically I started playing d2 today completely unrelated to the d3 announcement.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 04:19:30
June 29 2008 04:18 GMT
#137
Kotaku Article

“It’s been in development for a few years. About four.” Wilson admits and of course, when asked the next Big Question: a release date, he gives the typical Blizzard response. “When it’s done,”

Blizzard co-founder Frank Pearce was quick to add that, even after four years, “it’s far too early in development.”


-.-;
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 29 2008 05:11 GMT
#138
On June 29 2008 12:49 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 12:43 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 29 2008 12:29 Mindcrime wrote:
On June 29 2008 12:26 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 29 2008 11:50 Mindcrime wrote:
On June 29 2008 11:07 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 29 2008 10:37 Klogon wrote:
Anybody else rather have a Necro than this witch?


Um... DID YOU SEE THE ZOMBIE WALL?

It looks like some sort of crazy nking machine, just put one up in front of a town.

Lol, but besides that, I miss the necro. I kinda hope it is replaced by a similar character, especially the bone aspects of it. Ie another character that can get ~5k range physical damage and has good frames.


physical?


Yes, physical.


And how is that?


The damage is physical damage. That's why amplify damage works with spear/spirit.


Uh... no. The damage is magic and amp doesn't help it.


Then I guess it's a good thing I never use my bone necro :D.
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Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
June 29 2008 05:25 GMT
#139
holy shit i dont know if i can wait the year+ this is gonna take to be released
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 29 2008 05:27 GMT
#140
I'm not saying this game won't be awesome. but Necro was my first character in D2 and it has a special place in my fond childhood memories.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 29 2008 05:30 GMT
#141
On June 29 2008 14:27 Klogon wrote:
I'm not saying this game won't be awesome. but Necro was my first character in D2 and it has a special place in my fond childhood memories.


I think everyone who played the game the first time chose the necro... probably because it was so fucking awesome. I'm sad to see it go, but I'm interested in the witch doctor's abilities... especially the curses/diseases/whatever they call them now. I hope they get a little better and are actually used.
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Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
June 29 2008 05:31 GMT
#142
As long as I can duplicate my Arch Angel's staff of Apocalypse...


Wait, who said that?!
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17060 Posts
June 29 2008 05:43 GMT
#143
On June 29 2008 12:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Diablo III honestly excites me far more than Starcraft II at this point. The Witch Doctor looks fucking sick, Soul Harvest in particular.


I doubt Soul Harvest'll be useful in PvP.

DUALDREAM ENCHANTRESS

BLARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 29 2008 05:52 GMT
#144
On June 29 2008 14:43 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 12:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Diablo III honestly excites me far more than Starcraft II at this point. The Witch Doctor looks fucking sick, Soul Harvest in particular.


I doubt Soul Harvest'll be useful in PvP.

DUALDREAM ENCHANTRESS

BLARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


What does soul harvest do?

And lol@dualdream chant zeal sorcs, they can't kill anything.
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
June 29 2008 06:05 GMT
#145
On June 29 2008 13:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Doesn't look like D3 is the next gen MMO, seeing how on the job listing D3 icons are already visible and the
[image loading]
is still being shown next to some job positions. Probably Universe of StarCraft.


Or Hydra.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17060 Posts
June 29 2008 06:30 GMT
#146
On June 29 2008 14:52 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 14:43 Empyrean wrote:
On June 29 2008 12:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Diablo III honestly excites me far more than Starcraft II at this point. The Witch Doctor looks fucking sick, Soul Harvest in particular.


I doubt Soul Harvest'll be useful in PvP.

DUALDREAM ENCHANTRESS

BLARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


What does soul harvest do?

And lol@dualdream chant zeal sorcs, they can't kill anything.


More like Dual Dream + Beast. Who the hell uses a Passion? People who can't afford Beast. Right.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17060 Posts
June 29 2008 06:30 GMT
#147
Oh, and who actually bothers to get Enchant anyway? You can just get it off of charges on the Demon's Limb...frees up skill points for more useful skills.
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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
June 29 2008 06:52 GMT
#148
On June 29 2008 08:01 Thrill wrote:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7807/itshouldrh5.jpg

This man is a genious.

lol I remember these when SC2 came out. This game is looking really good, do you remember how SC2 looked when it was announced?

I think if they can stop the hacking and duping alone it will be a great game. Starcraft requires a lot more innovation and hard decisions to be successful, but D3 is going to be virtually guaranteed to be great.
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Narrator
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States868 Posts
June 29 2008 07:29 GMT
#149
On June 29 2008 06:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
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On June 29 2008 03:39 Narrator wrote:
If anyone wants to grab the gameplay trailer without having to use the stupid Blizzard Downloader, I've extracted the torrent for it here.

http://www.filedropper.com/diablo3-gameplaytraileren-us-downloader

Just so you guys know, Blizzard Downloader doesn't let you limit your upload speed. If you're on a normal connection like me, it'll lag.

EDIT: FileDropper has been acting stupid lately (I saw it coming. -_-).

Here is another link: http://www.mediafire.com/?zicwvm4zmto.

800 mb download btw. It should be in HD resolution like the artwork and cinematic trailers I grabbed. I'll post those up if anyone wants to get them too.

Exactly what I came here for. (but non torrent form) Any chance you can upload to megaupload or something?

Sorry, I have no where to upload it to and my upload speed is horrible. Hopefully, someone else can. =/
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
June 29 2008 07:42 GMT
#150
On June 29 2008 15:05 zoLo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 13:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Doesn't look like D3 is the next gen MMO, seeing how on the job listing D3 icons are already visible and the
[image loading]
is still being shown next to some job positions. Probably Universe of StarCraft.


Or Hydra.


Hydra IS diablo 3
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4000 Posts
June 29 2008 07:51 GMT
#151
On June 29 2008 11:22 alien3456 wrote:
Oh my god I can't stand people who bitch about "My favorite X isn't in the new one. I'm not buying it if X isn't in it". Fuck off then.

And the bright colors are part of what made Diablo 2 look amazing. Blizzard doesn't need a lesson in color theory.


Fully agree on the first part. It can be a good game no matter what abilities from D2 are in there. I couldn't care less if all my favorite abilities are in there again. In fact, it may even be more fun when there's mainly new ones, I don't need the same game in 3D.

Fully disagree on the second part. We taught Blizzard a lesson in color theory when it came to SC2 as well, can you recall? Blizz has a tendency to make everything look like it came out of toy factories. The toned down terran looks so much better, and to be honest, the screenshots with reduced saturation and brightness for D3 look better too. I'm sure they can find a perfect balance here...
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 29 2008 07:59 GMT
#152
I want a monk inspired character (D1 Hellfire)
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ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 08:11:23
June 29 2008 08:11 GMT
#153
Diablo II, another one of these hack 'n' slash games that will be way too easy to be fun.
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
June 29 2008 08:14 GMT
#154
It just seems like D2 with better graphics with no gameplay improvement. Hope I'm wrong, but truh is, it looks like it.
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
June 29 2008 08:17 GMT
#155
You mean so easy that it's fun? It's always been the same simple "clicking things to death" formula that turns out to be fun.

And it's hardly even that easy, try killing duriel in normal with sorc in singleplayer without dying.
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
June 29 2008 08:48 GMT
#156
No typo there, no. I meant it that way, it will probably be too easy once again just like Diablo 2. And probably just as stubborn.

ps: don't even tell me SP is hard. It isn't, it's just boring. I have played it several times and I stopped playing it at the very moment I realized that I'm wasting my time.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
June 29 2008 08:50 GMT
#157
On June 29 2008 17:48 ForAdun wrote:
No typo there, no. I meant it that way, it will probably be too easy once again just like Diablo 2. And probably just as stubborn.

ps: don't even tell me SP is hard. It isn't, it's just boring. I have played it several times and I stopped playing it at the very moment I realized that I'm wasting my time.

Well if there is no hacking or duping, it will be very hard to get some items.
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 08:59:46
June 29 2008 08:56 GMT
#158
On June 29 2008 16:42 Shade692003 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 15:05 zoLo wrote:
On June 29 2008 13:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Doesn't look like D3 is the next gen MMO, seeing how on the job listing D3 icons are already visible and the
[image loading]
is still being shown next to some job positions. Probably Universe of StarCraft.


Or Hydra.


Hydra IS diablo 3


No it's not since at the Diablo 3 panel they said Hydra isn't related to Diablo 3.
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1089 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 09:18:10
June 29 2008 09:00 GMT
#159
On June 29 2008 08:01 Thrill wrote:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7807/itshouldrh5.jpg

This man is a genius.

That is brilliant. Hope Blizzard sees it.

And the witch doctor is lame, remove it and give us necromancers.

There should at least be the same classes as in diablo 2 non expansion, Paladin, Sorcerers, Barbarian, Necromancer and Amazon. And preferably Druid and Assassin too.
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Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
June 29 2008 09:31 GMT
#160
Jay Wilson interview
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/29/joystiq-chats-with-jay-wilson-on-diablo-3/
"Eyes in the sky."
PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
June 29 2008 09:37 GMT
#161
haha diablo3 looks further along than sc2!
imo it'll be released before sc2
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
June 29 2008 10:17 GMT
#162
I so hope they manage to make it as atmospheric as Diablo1. The great music, sound effects and dialogs, the dark levels, the exciting quests. I think I still know the poem about the Halls of the Blind by heart. Bosses like King Leoric, Archbishop Lazarus and the Butcher are so memorable. Who doesn't remember the Butcher's bloodlusty "Aaaah, fresh meat!" when you enter his slaughterhouse full of dead bodies? The feeling of getting closer and closer to the very netherworld as you venture deeper into the labyrinth. Pure satanic ambience. I was actually afraid when I played through Diablo1 for the first time. Please Blizzard, capture the dark atmosphere of the first Diablo game. Diablo2 was great fun too, but it left a lot to desire in this regard.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 29 2008 10:22 GMT
#163
On June 29 2008 14:27 Klogon wrote:
I'm not saying this game won't be awesome. but Necro was my first character in D2 and it has a special place in my fond childhood memories.

I agree, Necro is much cooler than Witch Doctor... I mean, I'm willing to give WD a chance and see how it develops, but I'm still hoping for Necro more...
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
June 29 2008 10:23 GMT
#164
I'd prefer all new classes, personally. I already have D2 to play D2 classes.
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ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 11:06:07
June 29 2008 11:01 GMT
#165
When it comes to character classes I can only say that Diablo 2 failed overall. Barbarian was ok. Necromancer well... imo out of place... not again please. Amazon meh, the Rogue was much better, she had a lot more flair. Assassin WTF not copied at all ehh?! Druid LOL, write hundred times "I shall not take funny pills before designing characters". The Paladin was the only choice of all that I really, really liked, probably because he's so similar to the old Warrior.

And finally... the Sorceress... huge fail!!
I don't want that character to be female again, sorry! (Yes, that actually matters in an adventure/RPG game!) Ever since I played the original Diablo game it never felt right to play a Sorceress. The Mage with his magic robe is much more original and I also want him to be black simply because he was black in the first place. But this time please give him a black speaker! It was so obvious that a white guy spoke as the black Mage in Diablo, well at least to me. Imo the only reason they've decided to have a Sorceress in Diablo 2 was that they were pretty uncreative. They thought it would be more exciting to get Superwoman into the game and call her Sorceress. They were right... but Superwoman is always exciting, that got nothing to do with the game. Huge fail. She doesn't belong to the Diablo series.
Also don't ****ing give the Mage an orb and a shield, those orbs are SOOOOO out of place and SOOOOOOO not original it hurts my eyes when I see that! Can't you just modify staves so that they are equally useful??? Really, that can't be so hard, just use your brains!!

Blizzard should take a deep, a really deep look at the Diablo game. All three main characters gave the impression of being really tough fighters. Guys who earned their bread with their guild and maybe saved a kingdom once. Would you expect that from... a Necromancer? A Druid? An Assassin? Hell, no...

Flair is all in RPG-like games. Don't forget where the characters come from that you choose, Blizzard. Be careful and don't follow into the footsteps of modern everything-in-one RPG's that are so overloaded and so not original because you just don't have an idea what exactly is the theme. WoW for example. What the hell, half of the game is taken from other games, slightly modified and sold as new stuff. Don't fool the community! You can't!
SF-Fork
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Russian Federation1401 Posts
June 29 2008 11:22 GMT
#166
On June 29 2008 19:17 Scorch wrote:
I so hope they manage to make it as atmospheric as Diablo1. The great music, sound effects and dialogs, the dark levels, the exciting quests. I think I still know the poem about the Halls of the Blind by heart. Bosses like King Leoric, Archbishop Lazarus and the Butcher are so memorable. Who doesn't remember the Butcher's bloodlusty "Aaaah, fresh meat!" when you enter his slaughterhouse full of dead bodies? The feeling of getting closer and closer to the very netherworld as you venture deeper into the labyrinth. Pure satanic ambience. I was actually afraid when I played through Diablo1 for the first time. Please Blizzard, capture the dark atmosphere of the first Diablo game. Diablo2 was great fun too, but it left a lot to desire in this regard.


I agree with Scorch, the atmoshpere and storyline was much better in the first game.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4000 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 11:53:45
June 29 2008 11:52 GMT
#167
Haha, i never realized there was a storyline, how long was it, like 5 lines max?

Atmosphere was definitely better but the caves felt much more linear to me.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 29 2008 12:03 GMT
#168
On June 29 2008 19:17 Scorch wrote:
I so hope they manage to make it as atmospheric as Diablo1. The great music, sound effects and dialogs, the dark levels, the exciting quests. I think I still know the poem about the Halls of the Blind by heart. Bosses like King Leoric, Archbishop Lazarus and the Butcher are so memorable. Who doesn't remember the Butcher's bloodlusty "Aaaah, fresh meat!" when you enter his slaughterhouse full of dead bodies? The feeling of getting closer and closer to the very netherworld as you venture deeper into the labyrinth. Pure satanic ambience. I was actually afraid when I played through Diablo1 for the first time. Please Blizzard, capture the dark atmosphere of the first Diablo game. Diablo2 was great fun too, but it left a lot to desire in this regard.
Yea totally agree here
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
June 29 2008 12:10 GMT
#169
On June 29 2008 19:17 Scorch wrote:
I so hope they manage to make it as atmospheric as Diablo1. The great music, sound effects and dialogs, the dark levels, the exciting quests. I think I still know the poem about the Halls of the Blind by heart. Bosses like King Leoric, Archbishop Lazarus and the Butcher are so memorable. Who doesn't remember the Butcher's bloodlusty "Aaaah, fresh meat!" when you enter his slaughterhouse full of dead bodies? The feeling of getting closer and closer to the very netherworld as you venture deeper into the labyrinth. Pure satanic ambience. I was actually afraid when I played through Diablo1 for the first time. Please Blizzard, capture the dark atmosphere of the first Diablo game. Diablo2 was great fun too, but it left a lot to desire in this regard.

I have to agree completly here. What made diablo 1 the game it was was its atmosphere. I loved both diablo 1 and 2. But when playing diablo2 I always longed back to that feeling that I never got back to in d2.
shimmy
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Poland997 Posts
June 29 2008 12:16 GMT
#170
[image loading]
Hell hath no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned.
PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
June 29 2008 12:17 GMT
#171
how did you guys who played d2 manage to get through act 3?
snoozefest for me that one!
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
June 29 2008 12:21 GMT
#172
I hope they keep 1-2 classes from the old game at most. There were no characters carried on from diablo 1 to diablo 2 and I see no reason why they should do it now. I do hope they still have a character that plays somewhat like a paladin (which is my favorite class in d2) but he doesn't have to look like or be called a paladin. 3-4 new completely new characters other than the two we have already seen would be great. If I wanted all the characters from d2 then I would play d2. Actualy I am playing d2 atm but thats just to celebrate the d3 announcement xO
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4000 Posts
June 29 2008 12:24 GMT
#173
Act 3 really isn't as long as it looks. Taking the correct route through the swamp part (you can skip an entire area there) can be done relatively quickly, just do one side of the river, and kurast wasn't really that boring for me...
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 29 2008 12:28 GMT
#174
On June 29 2008 21:17 PobTheCad wrote:
how did you guys who played d2 manage to get through act 3?
snoozefest for me that one!

Lol it goes like this:

TP to trav plz?
Okay thx...
*make game "Trav then Meph" *
5 mins later
Nice job! TP to Durance lvl 2 plz?
Okay thx...
10 mins later
Hello Act 4!
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
June 29 2008 12:29 GMT
#175
On June 28 2008 23:36 Jibba wrote:
Diablo 1/2 are awful


fuck you!
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
June 29 2008 12:31 GMT
#176
I don't think they are very flexible with the character classes. Apart from the barbarian and witch doctor, I'm quite sure the game needs
- a pure spellcaster like the sorceror/sorceress
- a ranged fighter: rogue, amazon, hunter, ranger
- a light melee/caster hybrid like the paladin or monk
I find it quite cheap that they only want to include five classes. It's really really obvious that they are saving up ideas for the addon. They should include at least seven classes like in LoD instead of reducing the number of playable builds.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 12:38:50
June 29 2008 12:33 GMT
#177
Anyone with a link to the Diablo panels from this morning? (the 2nd panels)
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 29 2008 12:36 GMT
#178
On June 29 2008 07:01 parkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 06:54 CTStalker wrote:
lol @ when the barbarian talks with cain.

"come, stay a while and..."
"enough idle chatter!"

No one got time to listen to Cain's stories. They're to busy killing monsters for exp, items and glory.

I listen to cain all the time, he has such funny stories.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
June 29 2008 12:41 GMT
#179
On June 29 2008 20:22 SF-Fork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 19:17 Scorch wrote:
I so hope they manage to make it as atmospheric as Diablo1. The great music, sound effects and dialogs, the dark levels, the exciting quests. I think I still know the poem about the Halls of the Blind by heart. Bosses like King Leoric, Archbishop Lazarus and the Butcher are so memorable. Who doesn't remember the Butcher's bloodlusty "Aaaah, fresh meat!" when you enter his slaughterhouse full of dead bodies? The feeling of getting closer and closer to the very netherworld as you venture deeper into the labyrinth. Pure satanic ambience. I was actually afraid when I played through Diablo1 for the first time. Please Blizzard, capture the dark atmosphere of the first Diablo game. Diablo2 was great fun too, but it left a lot to desire in this regard.


I agree with Scorch, the atmoshpere and storyline was much better in the first game.


Lol I completely disagree. I though Diablo just went completely onwards and upwards. The incredibly epic storyline was so much more epic, and big and just, intense. The dark traveller taking the narrator of the tale to all of these exotic and strange places, the horrors that he has to endure...then you have to go to those very same locations; with an eclectic range of atmospheres and locales. Diablo 1 had variety, but the sheer fact that you were just descending levels felt so claustrophobic and annoying to me; when I replayed it after having done Diablo 2. I'll admit that the butcher and king leoric etc were awesome...but so were andariel and mephisto.

Diablo one was good...it inspired me to walk diagonally and win the 100 metres at the olympics...but I do have to say comon, Diablo 2 had JUST as good music, JUST as much atmosphere, but just more adventure and variety.

Also, I think Diablo 2 was just as dark as 1. A lot of gore and spooky shit. The countess's waiting rooms with the big chalice of blood and stuff.

Going back to Tristram was fucking epic! Comon!!! It was so fuckin' epic! Especially if you did it the first time, you weren't ready. After fighting rakanishu, with like half health at level 5....you're like fuck fuck fuck gota get to cain OH FUCK IT'S GRISWOLD maybe he found out that I stole that rusty shortsword in diablo 1 fuck gota run fuck! Oh wait...he's quite slow...actually he's very slow. Ha, fucking slowpoke. Here grissy grissy grissy!!! *griswold hits* NO!!!!!! FUCK!!!!! Almost dead! Fuck run!!! Find cain and get the shit out of there fuck!!!!

Ps i disagree with that person who said the thing about the characters tbh. In fact I completely disagree, because the concept of a black paladin makes zero sense to me...so lol I don't even like what he likes about diablo 2 characters. I thought the sorceress owned. I thought the NECROMANCER was fucking amazing! :D. My favourite character by far. He was so cool. Totally changed the dynamic of play. I much preferred the skill tree as well. The books in diablo 1 were fuckin' gay. Made everything feel so cheap. Like that mechanic in FFVIII for spells. Anyway that's my two cents for the day.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 13:21:46
June 29 2008 13:21 GMT
#180
On June 29 2008 21:41 HamerD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 20:22 SF-Fork wrote:
On June 29 2008 19:17 Scorch wrote:
I so hope they manage to make it as atmospheric as Diablo1. The great music, sound effects and dialogs, the dark levels, the exciting quests. I think I still know the poem about the Halls of the Blind by heart. Bosses like King Leoric, Archbishop Lazarus and the Butcher are so memorable. Who doesn't remember the Butcher's bloodlusty "Aaaah, fresh meat!" when you enter his slaughterhouse full of dead bodies? The feeling of getting closer and closer to the very netherworld as you venture deeper into the labyrinth. Pure satanic ambience. I was actually afraid when I played through Diablo1 for the first time. Please Blizzard, capture the dark atmosphere of the first Diablo game. Diablo2 was great fun too, but it left a lot to desire in this regard.


I agree with Scorch, the atmoshpere and storyline was much better in the first game.


Lol I completely disagree. I though Diablo just went completely onwards and upwards. The incredibly epic storyline was so much more epic, and big and just, intense. The dark traveller taking the narrator of the tale to all of these exotic and strange places, the horrors that he has to endure...then you have to go to those very same locations; with an eclectic range of atmospheres and locales. Diablo 1 had variety, but the sheer fact that you were just descending levels felt so claustrophobic and annoying to me; when I replayed it after having done Diablo 2. I'll admit that the butcher and king leoric etc were awesome...but so were andariel and mephisto.

Diablo one was good...it inspired me to walk diagonally and win the 100 metres at the olympics...but I do have to say comon, Diablo 2 had JUST as good music, JUST as much atmosphere, but just more adventure and variety.

Also, I think Diablo 2 was just as dark as 1. A lot of gore and spooky shit. The countess's waiting rooms with the big chalice of blood and stuff.

Going back to Tristram was fucking epic! Comon!!! It was so fuckin' epic! Especially if you did it the first time, you weren't ready. After fighting rakanishu, with like half health at level 5....you're like fuck fuck fuck gota get to cain OH FUCK IT'S GRISWOLD maybe he found out that I stole that rusty shortsword in diablo 1 fuck gota run fuck! Oh wait...he's quite slow...actually he's very slow. Ha, fucking slowpoke. Here grissy grissy grissy!!! *griswold hits* NO!!!!!! FUCK!!!!! Almost dead! Fuck run!!! Find cain and get the shit out of there fuck!!!!

Ps i disagree with that person who said the thing about the characters tbh. In fact I completely disagree, because the concept of a black paladin makes zero sense to me...so lol I don't even like what he likes about diablo 2 characters. I thought the sorceress owned. I thought the NECROMANCER was fucking amazing! :D. My favourite character by far. He was so cool. Totally changed the dynamic of play. I much preferred the skill tree as well. The books in diablo 1 were fuckin' gay. Made everything feel so cheap. Like that mechanic in FFVIII for spells. Anyway that's my two cents for the day.


Diablo 1 had a better ambience imo. And no spawning monsters for free Xp.
I hope that Blizzard will change the rush system
I cant understand where is the fun... And it ruins the bosses imo. I have no more respect for Andy because i killed her like 30 time with my char...
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 14:26:35
June 29 2008 14:23 GMT
#181
On June 29 2008 21:29 HamerD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 23:36 Jibba wrote:
Diablo 1/2 are awful


fuck you!

They were a lot of fun, but from a design standpoint they're incredibly simple and user unfriendly games. The classes don't fit the story in D2 at all, the level designs are kinda annoying and you've got like 40 quests in the whole game. It's just one big mission for better loot. Not to mention every class reached a point where they became pretty much invulnerable to monsters, and none later than level 40. Sorc gets high enough mana regen, Barb/Zon/Druid/Assas get high enough health/mana leech, pally gets high enough hammers, Necro gets Blood Golem.

Blizzard North had the easiest job in the world because they never needed to tweak or balance anything. They could release patches every so often that would cause half the players to start over a and grind a different class, and then they could occasionally throw in a patch with new items.

PvP was the most important thing it had going for it. PvE was pretty much just about Meph and Cow runs so you could PvP better. The only thinking a player had to do in D1/D2 was theorycrafting while at work/school.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20161 Posts
June 29 2008 15:50 GMT
#182
On June 29 2008 20:01 ForAdun wrote:
When it comes to character classes I can only say that Diablo 2 failed overall. Barbarian was ok. Necromancer well... imo out of place... not again please. Amazon meh, the Rogue was much better, she had a lot more flair. Assassin WTF not copied at all ehh?! Druid LOL, write hundred times "I shall not take funny pills before designing characters". The Paladin was the only choice of all that I really, really liked, probably because he's so similar to the old Warrior.

And finally... the Sorceress... huge fail!!
I don't want that character to be female again, sorry! (Yes, that actually matters in an adventure/RPG game!) Ever since I played the original Diablo game it never felt right to play a Sorceress. The Mage with his magic robe is much more original and I also want him to be black simply because he was black in the first place. But this time please give him a black speaker! It was so obvious that a white guy spoke as the black Mage in Diablo, well at least to me. Imo the only reason they've decided to have a Sorceress in Diablo 2 was that they were pretty uncreative. They thought it would be more exciting to get Superwoman into the game and call her Sorceress. They were right... but Superwoman is always exciting, that got nothing to do with the game. Huge fail. She doesn't belong to the Diablo series.
Also don't ****ing give the Mage an orb and a shield, those orbs are SOOOOO out of place and SOOOOOOO not original it hurts my eyes when I see that! Can't you just modify staves so that they are equally useful??? Really, that can't be so hard, just use your brains!!

Blizzard should take a deep, a really deep look at the Diablo game. All three main characters gave the impression of being really tough fighters. Guys who earned their bread with their guild and maybe saved a kingdom once. Would you expect that from... a Necromancer? A Druid? An Assassin? Hell, no...

Flair is all in RPG-like games. Don't forget where the characters come from that you choose, Blizzard. Be careful and don't follow into the footsteps of modern everything-in-one RPG's that are so overloaded and so not original because you just don't have an idea what exactly is the theme. WoW for example. What the hell, half of the game is taken from other games, slightly modified and sold as new stuff. Don't fool the community! You can't!


wow...just wow.
i have never seen such a long rant over fucking diablo characters/sexes/race due to nothing other than "unoriginality"
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
June 29 2008 15:53 GMT
#183
Looks cool. I'm digging the 3d. This is what I want from a game like Diablo anyways. It is Warcraftish but whatevs. WoW had good enough graphics for me.
Nak Allstar.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20161 Posts
June 29 2008 15:53 GMT
#184
On June 29 2008 23:23 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 21:29 HamerD wrote:
On June 28 2008 23:36 Jibba wrote:
Diablo 1/2 are awful


fuck you!

They were a lot of fun, but from a design standpoint they're incredibly simple and user unfriendly games. The classes don't fit the story in D2 at all, the level designs are kinda annoying and you've got like 40 quests in the whole game. It's just one big mission for better loot. Not to mention every class reached a point where they became pretty much invulnerable to monsters, and none later than level 40. Sorc gets high enough mana regen, Barb/Zon/Druid/Assas get high enough health/mana leech, pally gets high enough hammers, Necro gets Blood Golem.


How is it not user friendly? I cant really remember any interface problems i had since i changed my hotkeys...

And what do you mean none later than level 40? That point generally doesnt come till 80+ and you have to have decent gear.(except hammerdins, lvl 73 and you can do hell rushes lulz)
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 29 2008 16:00 GMT
#185
I sold my soul to Blizzard for their upcoming 2 games...

They better deliver.
Constantinius
Profile Joined June 2008
United States64 Posts
June 29 2008 16:06 GMT
#186
Fucking morons. Respeccing is the one of the worst idea I've ever heard for the game.
Dont drink Cristal no more...
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 29 2008 16:20 GMT
#187
On June 30 2008 01:06 Constantinius wrote:
Fucking morons. Respeccing is the one of the worst idea I've ever heard for the game.

Yeah, I'm really not liking the idea of re-speccing... you can just build whatever and re-spec at later date... Everyone's just gonna end up with the same build as newer, more powerful builds are discovered... That's pretty fucking stupid
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7016 Posts
June 29 2008 16:23 GMT
#188
On June 30 2008 00:53 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 23:23 Jibba wrote:
On June 29 2008 21:29 HamerD wrote:
On June 28 2008 23:36 Jibba wrote:
Diablo 1/2 are awful


fuck you!

They were a lot of fun, but from a design standpoint they're incredibly simple and user unfriendly games. The classes don't fit the story in D2 at all, the level designs are kinda annoying and you've got like 40 quests in the whole game. It's just one big mission for better loot. Not to mention every class reached a point where they became pretty much invulnerable to monsters, and none later than level 40. Sorc gets high enough mana regen, Barb/Zon/Druid/Assas get high enough health/mana leech, pally gets high enough hammers, Necro gets Blood Golem.


How is it not user friendly? I cant really remember any interface problems i had since i changed my hotkeys...

And what do you mean none later than level 40? That point generally doesnt come till 80+ and you have to have decent gear.(except hammerdins, lvl 73 and you can do hell rushes lulz)

The characters only became "invulnerable" because of dupe methods and everyone getting godlike items, the game wasn't supposed to be played that way obviously.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 16:30:09
June 29 2008 16:24 GMT
#189
On June 30 2008 00:53 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 23:23 Jibba wrote:
On June 29 2008 21:29 HamerD wrote:
On June 28 2008 23:36 Jibba wrote:
Diablo 1/2 are awful


fuck you!

They were a lot of fun, but from a design standpoint they're incredibly simple and user unfriendly games. The classes don't fit the story in D2 at all, the level designs are kinda annoying and you've got like 40 quests in the whole game. It's just one big mission for better loot. Not to mention every class reached a point where they became pretty much invulnerable to monsters, and none later than level 40. Sorc gets high enough mana regen, Barb/Zon/Druid/Assas get high enough health/mana leech, pally gets high enough hammers, Necro gets Blood Golem.


How is it not user friendly? I cant really remember any interface problems i had since i changed my hotkeys...
The set stat and skill points. I never had a problem because I'm not retarded, but that's the sort of thing that drives casual fans away. It also meant most people never tried all the non-cookie cutter builds unless they tried it with a trainer first. The inventory was also a pain in the ass by today's standards and transferring items sucked.

Honestly, I'm against skill respecs but only because leveling in D2 was fairly easy for a hc player.

And what do you mean none later than level 40? That point generally doesnt come till 80+ and you have to have decent gear.(except hammerdins, lvl 73 and you can do hell rushes lulz)

Maybe with your first character, but after that it became pretty easy. Until they nerfed WW in favor of frenzy (which took FOREVER), as soon as you started getting into positive damage multipliers with it and had 8%+ life/mana leech you were fine. Elemental damage could still suck, but that's not really an issue until Meph's Lair.

I don't want to describe each class's op build, but I guess it really depends on what period of the game you're talking about. Everything was pretty damn standard until LoD finally came out, and even after that the basics stayed the same. Monsters were super, super easy in that game with possible exception of the Hellsmith and 3 barbs.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 29 2008 16:28 GMT
#190
On June 30 2008 01:23 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 00:53 decafchicken wrote:
On June 29 2008 23:23 Jibba wrote:
On June 29 2008 21:29 HamerD wrote:
On June 28 2008 23:36 Jibba wrote:
Diablo 1/2 are awful


fuck you!

They were a lot of fun, but from a design standpoint they're incredibly simple and user unfriendly games. The classes don't fit the story in D2 at all, the level designs are kinda annoying and you've got like 40 quests in the whole game. It's just one big mission for better loot. Not to mention every class reached a point where they became pretty much invulnerable to monsters, and none later than level 40. Sorc gets high enough mana regen, Barb/Zon/Druid/Assas get high enough health/mana leech, pally gets high enough hammers, Necro gets Blood Golem.


How is it not user friendly? I cant really remember any interface problems i had since i changed my hotkeys...

And what do you mean none later than level 40? That point generally doesnt come till 80+ and you have to have decent gear.(except hammerdins, lvl 73 and you can do hell rushes lulz)

The characters only became "invulnerable" because of dupe methods and everyone getting godlike items, the game wasn't supposed to be played that way obviously.

It helped, but wasn't necessary for Amazon/Druid/Necro. Obviously Sorc got a huge boost from it as did Barbs when 90% were all using the same duped -40 lance.
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dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
June 29 2008 16:34 GMT
#191
D2 wasnt always that ez, as u said it depends on what patch of the game u are at.

Duriel used to have ice AND fire immune, that fucks all the sorcs
Hellsmith used to have tele. Whenever he gets low, he will tele and regen to 33% hp. he was practically immortal.
Nithlaka used to have 100% corpse explosion in hell with minions over 4k hp. 3 explosions will kill your entire party. Considering Nithlaka was a mandatory quest, attempts at killing him without a necro/paladin in your party is suicide.

Hell difficulty in D2 is still pretty hard unless you have inventory of dupes. If you ever own a piece of equipment that has an hr in it or worth its equivalent, its prolly duped.
...from the land of imba
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
June 29 2008 16:44 GMT
#192
On June 29 2008 23:23 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 21:29 HamerD wrote:
On June 28 2008 23:36 Jibba wrote:
Diablo 1/2 are awful


fuck you!

They were a lot of fun, but from a design standpoint they're incredibly simple and user unfriendly games. The classes don't fit the story in D2 at all, the level designs are kinda annoying and you've got like 40 quests in the whole game. It's just one big mission for better loot. Not to mention every class reached a point where they became pretty much invulnerable to monsters, and none later than level 40. Sorc gets high enough mana regen, Barb/Zon/Druid/Assas get high enough health/mana leech, pally gets high enough hammers, Necro gets Blood Golem.

Blizzard North had the easiest job in the world because they never needed to tweak or balance anything. They could release patches every so often that would cause half the players to start over a and grind a different class, and then they could occasionally throw in a patch with new items.

PvP was the most important thing it had going for it. PvE was pretty much just about Meph and Cow runs so you could PvP better. The only thinking a player had to do in D1/D2 was theorycrafting while at work/school.


Obviously you are one of the minorities.
靈魂交響曲
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 16:47:18
June 29 2008 16:44 GMT
#193
Yeah, but Sorcs had a long ass time when Static Field was the most overpowered thing in the game. It took them way too long to add cooldowns.

Obviously you are one of the minorities.
In what way? I'm sure 3 will be a lot of fun just like the other 2 were. I'm saying people shouldn't complain about unoriginal design or lack of innovation, because nothing in the series has ever been about intelligent gameplay. It's a dirty and addictive hack and slash game.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
June 29 2008 16:56 GMT
#194
From your original post, you said D1/2 were awful.

That is what I mean you are one of the minorities.

You already pointed out the "addictive hack and slash" part, and that is exactly one of the main reasons why people love the game.

I for one, want to destroy things; So as many million others.
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 29 2008 17:00 GMT
#195
Anyone who says Diablo 2 has scarier atmosphere than Diablo 1 obviously has not been stun-locked to death by goatmen.

Also Diablo 1 Succubi > LOD Succubi
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 29 2008 17:03 GMT
#196
wanna know why my name is evanthebouncy? I started w/ leap/doublethrow barbarian...
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 29 2008 17:26 GMT
#197
On June 30 2008 01:34 dybydx wrote:
D2 wasnt always that ez, as u said it depends on what patch of the game u are at.

Duriel used to have ice AND fire immune, that fucks all the sorcs
Hellsmith used to have tele. Whenever he gets low, he will tele and regen to 33% hp. he was practically immortal.
Nithlaka used to have 100% corpse explosion in hell with minions over 4k hp. 3 explosions will kill your entire party. Considering Nithlaka was a mandatory quest, attempts at killing him without a necro/paladin in your party is suicide.

Hell difficulty in D2 is still pretty hard unless you have inventory of dupes. If you ever own a piece of equipment that has an hr in it or worth its equivalent, its prolly duped.


Okay I think people are exaggerating the duping some... yes, it was awful in 1.11a and before, but with the release of 1.11b it fixed some of the duping methods, especially the commonly known ones. After the prices returned to normal a few months after the reset, you can see that the high runes were worth about 20x as more than they were in the previous patch.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
TheeZy
Profile Joined October 2004
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 17:28:26
June 29 2008 17:27 GMT
#198
The biggest problem I had with the past Diablo games was the lack of a substantial endgame. Diablo II pretty much consisted of running Baal and Mephisto over and over to gain levels and gear. I spent as much time watching TV as I did looking at the screen.

Diablo 3 should take some ideas from World of Warcraft. Imagine instances and raids but with fewer people and fast-paced gameplay. An Arena system with lots of cool game modes would be great, too.

Think of Diablo with the multiplayer from Nox. It would be awesome.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4000 Posts
June 29 2008 17:32 GMT
#199
Uhm i thought D2 was challenging enough. I played a single player Barbarian, and without leet gear the game is tough until the end. The stormshield dropped for me, but that and some lower level runewords were all the good gear i had. At lvl 85, Baal still took quite a while to beat (plus like two full inventories of pots).
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 29 2008 17:37 GMT
#200
On June 30 2008 01:56 Fishball wrote:
From your original post, you said D1/2 were awful.

That is what I mean you are one of the minorities.

You already pointed out the "addictive hack and slash" part, and that is exactly one of the main reasons why people love the game.

I for one, want to destroy things; So as many million others.

I think you only read what HammerD quoted.

"Diablo 1/2 are awful, user unfriendly linear games with a community full of scammers, cheaters and assholes, and the entire thing combines to be incredibly fun and addictive.

This is like complaining that there's not enough wholesome/kid-friendly stuff to do at a dog racing track."
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 29 2008 17:38 GMT
#201
On June 30 2008 02:27 TheeZy wrote:
The biggest problem I had with the past Diablo games was the lack of a substantial endgame. Diablo II pretty much consisted of running Baal and Mephisto over and over to gain levels and gear. I spent as much time watching TV as I did looking at the screen.

Diablo 3 should take some ideas from World of Warcraft. Imagine instances and raids but with fewer people and fast-paced gameplay. An Arena system with lots of cool game modes would be great, too.

Think of Diablo with the multiplayer from Nox. It would be awesome.

Yeah, I'm sure they'll add a lot of improvements to the game... And that is what most people are looking forward to, and why Blizzard is such a good game.

And Evanthebouncy, never knew that... Funny fact.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
June 29 2008 17:42 GMT
#202
On June 30 2008 01:34 dybydx wrote:
D2 wasnt always that ez, as u said it depends on what patch of the game u are at.

Duriel used to have ice AND fire immune, that fucks all the sorcs
Hellsmith used to have tele. Whenever he gets low, he will tele and regen to 33% hp. he was practically immortal.
Nithlaka used to have 100% corpse explosion in hell with minions over 4k hp. 3 explosions will kill your entire party. Considering Nithlaka was a mandatory quest, attempts at killing him without a necro/paladin in your party is suicide.

Hell difficulty in D2 is still pretty hard unless you have inventory of dupes. If you ever own a piece of equipment that has an hr in it or worth its equivalent, its prolly duped.

Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 17:51:19
June 29 2008 17:49 GMT
#203
On June 30 2008 02:26 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 01:34 dybydx wrote:
D2 wasnt always that ez, as u said it depends on what patch of the game u are at.

Duriel used to have ice AND fire immune, that fucks all the sorcs
Hellsmith used to have tele. Whenever he gets low, he will tele and regen to 33% hp. he was practically immortal.
Nithlaka used to have 100% corpse explosion in hell with minions over 4k hp. 3 explosions will kill your entire party. Considering Nithlaka was a mandatory quest, attempts at killing him without a necro/paladin in your party is suicide.

Hell difficulty in D2 is still pretty hard unless you have inventory of dupes. If you ever own a piece of equipment that has an hr in it or worth its equivalent, its prolly duped.


Okay I think people are exaggerating the duping some... yes, it was awful in 1.11a and before, but with the release of 1.11b it fixed some of the duping methods, especially the commonly known ones. After the prices returned to normal a few months after the reset, you can see that the high runes were worth about 20x as more than they were in the previous patch.

Diablo II
Release date
June 29, 2000

Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
Release date (PC)
June 29, 2001

1.11b Patch Release date
Sep 13, 2005

^^
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HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
June 29 2008 17:55 GMT
#204
On June 30 2008 02:37 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 01:56 Fishball wrote:
From your original post, you said D1/2 were awful.

That is what I mean you are one of the minorities.

You already pointed out the "addictive hack and slash" part, and that is exactly one of the main reasons why people love the game.

I for one, want to destroy things; So as many million others.

I think you only read what HammerD quoted.

"Diablo 1/2 are awful, user unfriendly linear games with a community full of scammers, cheaters and assholes, and the entire thing combines to be incredibly fun and addictive.

This is like complaining that there's not enough wholesome/kid-friendly stuff to do at a dog racing track."


regardless, you still said it was awful. I can think of a damn sight more games that are awful, compared to diablo. Diablo was and basically still is a unique, dark, adventurous and uncomplicated experience. The whole experience, in my opinion, does definitely become sullied when you take it online. I remember the joy I had questing with my friend on lan, rejoicing at some mediocre set item. And I compare it to the feverish desperate searching for keys and parts, and running baal and diablo (ps wtf were you talking about meph and cow lol); and that doesn't even come close.

Hopefully diablo will not just stop all single player quality, rid itself of all atmosphere (like WoW), and dumb itself down (even further) into another generic mass RPG for lifeless morons.

For me, I play a lot of games for the escapism, and there is nothing more annoying than trying to get away from the unceremonius, opportunistic, impatient, dull, selfish, wankerish society I live in and the second I step on a lush, verdant landscape; a bunch of fat kids pretending to be elves because they can't stop eating microwave jonnycakes and will never be thin, jump around in front of me searching for a shoe that increases their attractiveness by 2.

So personally, for RPG's that don't consume all of your time, I found diablo to be absorbing and interesting. And I don't see your point about linear, with side quests and no real forced pace to the game, it's as (un)linear as most games tbh.

Your shrinking the game down to its basic objective base (more loot, more shit) is first of all wrong, because it's supposed to be about owning the minions of hell; but secondly, all games, no matter how good they are, are about fabricating easily visible, fantastic objectives for a gamer to reach; because life is just too complicated and uninspiring sometimes.

Ps. it's HamerD not HammerD.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
June 29 2008 17:57 GMT
#205
On June 29 2008 14:31 Yank31 wrote:
As long as I can duplicate my Arch Angel's staff of Apocalypse...


Wait, who said that?!


Hahaha... God, I loved D1, and all the cheaters who would try to say they found their AAoA with 255 charges or GPoW, neither of which can even exist legitimately(nor are even the best items you could have anyways rofl).

I wish I had saved it, but in my heyday with D1, I had all 3 classes decked out in almost perfect legit gear... Warrior with perfect block, and AC that hit the cap on missing, max res, and like 500 some HPs, level 42, Awesome FPM of Perf or prec, a couple Obs/Perf rings, KSoS, carrying a Royal Circlet or a Gotterdamerung for melee levels or stealthing...

Tank Mage who could double as a full out lvl20 with 1k+ mana mage depending on the level, I had TWO perfect Bountiful Staves of Apoc (36 charges on each, the max legit), Dreamflange/Awesome FPM of Sorc, SS, Royal Circlet (I think), and Obs/Wiz jewelery, or an AA of Wiz staff, T/C with 60 or 70 durability (yay hidden shrines!), Naj's, if I wanted to go straight wizard.

Rogue I don't remember what I used on her but she had pretty perfect gear too, but I didn't use her much.

LOL at the names I used.. random search on google when I was looking for "tank mage" to remember the name of the dreamflange... scroll down to Evil Teletubby:

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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 29 2008 18:57 GMT
#206
On June 30 2008 02:49 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 02:26 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 30 2008 01:34 dybydx wrote:
D2 wasnt always that ez, as u said it depends on what patch of the game u are at.

Duriel used to have ice AND fire immune, that fucks all the sorcs
Hellsmith used to have tele. Whenever he gets low, he will tele and regen to 33% hp. he was practically immortal.
Nithlaka used to have 100% corpse explosion in hell with minions over 4k hp. 3 explosions will kill your entire party. Considering Nithlaka was a mandatory quest, attempts at killing him without a necro/paladin in your party is suicide.

Hell difficulty in D2 is still pretty hard unless you have inventory of dupes. If you ever own a piece of equipment that has an hr in it or worth its equivalent, its prolly duped.


Okay I think people are exaggerating the duping some... yes, it was awful in 1.11a and before, but with the release of 1.11b it fixed some of the duping methods, especially the commonly known ones. After the prices returned to normal a few months after the reset, you can see that the high runes were worth about 20x as more than they were in the previous patch.

Diablo II
Release date
June 29, 2000

Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
Release date (PC)
June 29, 2001

1.11b Patch Release date
Sep 13, 2005

^^


I think you missed the point. I'm saying it WAS terrible, but it's not even close to as bad as it was with the last two patches. Unless blizzard is completely devoid of all brainpower... I'm pretty sure they can make dupes in d3 rare, like they did in their latest patch.
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 29 2008 19:32 GMT
#207
On June 30 2008 03:57 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 02:49 Jibba wrote:
On June 30 2008 02:26 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 30 2008 01:34 dybydx wrote:
D2 wasnt always that ez, as u said it depends on what patch of the game u are at.

Duriel used to have ice AND fire immune, that fucks all the sorcs
Hellsmith used to have tele. Whenever he gets low, he will tele and regen to 33% hp. he was practically immortal.
Nithlaka used to have 100% corpse explosion in hell with minions over 4k hp. 3 explosions will kill your entire party. Considering Nithlaka was a mandatory quest, attempts at killing him without a necro/paladin in your party is suicide.

Hell difficulty in D2 is still pretty hard unless you have inventory of dupes. If you ever own a piece of equipment that has an hr in it or worth its equivalent, its prolly duped.


Okay I think people are exaggerating the duping some... yes, it was awful in 1.11a and before, but with the release of 1.11b it fixed some of the duping methods, especially the commonly known ones. After the prices returned to normal a few months after the reset, you can see that the high runes were worth about 20x as more than they were in the previous patch.

Diablo II
Release date
June 29, 2000

Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
Release date (PC)
June 29, 2001

1.11b Patch Release date
Sep 13, 2005

^^


I think you missed the point. I'm saying it WAS terrible, but it's not even close to as bad as it was with the last two patches. Unless blizzard is completely devoid of all brainpower... I'm pretty sure they can make dupes in d3 rare, like they did in their latest patch.

wait, so are the dupes more rare now in d2??
cuz i'll go back and play again if they are
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 29 2008 19:33 GMT
#208
On June 30 2008 04:32 Gokey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 03:57 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 30 2008 02:49 Jibba wrote:
On June 30 2008 02:26 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 30 2008 01:34 dybydx wrote:
D2 wasnt always that ez, as u said it depends on what patch of the game u are at.

Duriel used to have ice AND fire immune, that fucks all the sorcs
Hellsmith used to have tele. Whenever he gets low, he will tele and regen to 33% hp. he was practically immortal.
Nithlaka used to have 100% corpse explosion in hell with minions over 4k hp. 3 explosions will kill your entire party. Considering Nithlaka was a mandatory quest, attempts at killing him without a necro/paladin in your party is suicide.

Hell difficulty in D2 is still pretty hard unless you have inventory of dupes. If you ever own a piece of equipment that has an hr in it or worth its equivalent, its prolly duped.


Okay I think people are exaggerating the duping some... yes, it was awful in 1.11a and before, but with the release of 1.11b it fixed some of the duping methods, especially the commonly known ones. After the prices returned to normal a few months after the reset, you can see that the high runes were worth about 20x as more than they were in the previous patch.

Diablo II
Release date
June 29, 2000

Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
Release date (PC)
June 29, 2001

1.11b Patch Release date
Sep 13, 2005

^^


I think you missed the point. I'm saying it WAS terrible, but it's not even close to as bad as it was with the last two patches. Unless blizzard is completely devoid of all brainpower... I'm pretty sure they can make dupes in d3 rare, like they did in their latest patch.

wait, so are the dupes more rare now in d2??
cuz i'll go back and play again if they are


Yeah, there still probably still some though, but lag dupping doesn't work anymore.
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antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
June 29 2008 20:55 GMT
#209
Looks awesome can't fucking wait...to the pessimists this is diablo with blizzard making it. How can they possibly screw it up? Its not like its starcraft which requires extremely delicate balancing for it to be succesful. The formula for diablo is simple, fun and addictive. Diablo 3 will own in that regard just as the previous ones did.
AdamaS
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
119 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 21:33:56
June 29 2008 21:26 GMT
#210
They did kinda screw up Diablo II... It was bloody boring the first time I played it, sucked that all the monsters were half my character's size, just lost the whole scariness of the first game. Also, Diablo was less hack and slash - you actually had to be stratetic and careful about your character getting hit, especially taking into account your walking speed and using walls to your advantage. In Diablo II you just run past everything to get items etc.

For those unable to wait for Diablo 3, check out The Chaos Engine in the meantime... Pretty much the same game, with destroyable environmental structures and picking up health top ups:

+ Show Spoiler +


Oh yeah, also the quick skill belt bar in D3 is taken from Titan Quest, for that person who mentioned earlier while rebutting someone else saying that Blizzard was crap that Blizzard had come up with this innovative new thing that "only Blizzard could". Blizzard aren't that great Warcraft II, Diablo and SC were bloody brilliant but everything else is pretty meh.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
June 29 2008 22:08 GMT
#211
AdamaS it's not 3D~~ jk looks pretty nice actually
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MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
June 29 2008 22:52 GMT
#212
oh man Chaos Engine I remember playing that game a while back
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 22:58:33
June 29 2008 22:56 GMT
#213
On June 30 2008 02:55 HamerD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 02:37 Jibba wrote:
On June 30 2008 01:56 Fishball wrote:
From your original post, you said D1/2 were awful.

That is what I mean you are one of the minorities.

You already pointed out the "addictive hack and slash" part, and that is exactly one of the main reasons why people love the game.

I for one, want to destroy things; So as many million others.

I think you only read what HammerD quoted.

"Diablo 1/2 are awful, user unfriendly linear games with a community full of scammers, cheaters and assholes, and the entire thing combines to be incredibly fun and addictive.

This is like complaining that there's not enough wholesome/kid-friendly stuff to do at a dog racing track."


regardless, you still said it was awful. I can think of a damn sight more games that are awful, compared to diablo. Diablo was and basically still is a unique, dark, adventurous and uncomplicated experience. The whole experience, in my opinion, does definitely become sullied when you take it online. I remember the joy I had questing with my friend on lan, rejoicing at some mediocre set item. And I compare it to the feverish desperate searching for keys and parts, and running baal and diablo (ps wtf were you talking about meph and cow lol); and that doesn't even come close.

Hopefully diablo will not just stop all single player quality, rid itself of all atmosphere (like WoW), and dumb itself down (even further) into another generic mass RPG for lifeless morons.

For me, I play a lot of games for the escapism, and there is nothing more annoying than trying to get away from the unceremonius, opportunistic, impatient, dull, selfish, wankerish society I live in and the second I step on a lush, verdant landscape; a bunch of fat kids pretending to be elves because they can't stop eating microwave jonnycakes and will never be thin, jump around in front of me searching for a shoe that increases their attractiveness by 2.

So personally, for RPG's that don't consume all of your time, I found diablo to be absorbing and interesting. And I don't see your point about linear, with side quests and no real forced pace to the game, it's as (un)linear as most games tbh.

Your shrinking the game down to its basic objective base (more loot, more shit) is first of all wrong, because it's supposed to be about owning the minions of hell; but secondly, all games, no matter how good they are, are about fabricating easily visible, fantastic objectives for a gamer to reach; because life is just too complicated and uninspiring sometimes.

Ps. it's HamerD not HammerD.
Ok, well I think you're in fact in the minority as the 2% that didn't play on B.net. Everyone else here knows what I'm talking about with Meph/Cow.
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Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
June 29 2008 22:57 GMT
#214
That gameplay vid totally hyped me up...at first I was VERY sceptical and afraid it could let me down like SC2.

Who needs SC 2 now, NEED D3
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4000 Posts
June 29 2008 22:59 GMT
#215
Chaos Engine was such a good game, ridiculous for it's release year. I used to play it on my Amiga, later got it for the PC as well. But i remember it was so difficult when i was 11. I think it does actually bore a resemblance with D3, with the biggest difference that it's a shooter. It's fast, plays like a dream, and monsters are supercool. Bitmap Brothers absolutely ruled that age.

I can still remember remember the voice-over saying 'node activated' or 'level complete'. The techno soundtrack made me play faster for sure...I sure hope D3 has as much action as this.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 30 2008 00:14 GMT
#216
Blizz... bring back 08 shakos :D
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XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
June 30 2008 00:35 GMT
#217
Thank the freaking gods.
D2 was so hard on my eyes
D3 looks so smooth and crisp
Use it or lose it
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
June 30 2008 00:44 GMT
#218
On June 30 2008 02:00 Jyvblamo wrote:
Anyone who says Diablo 2 has scarier atmosphere than Diablo 1 obviously has not been stun-locked to death by goatmen.

Also Diablo 1 Succubi > LOD Succubi


Super word on this. Diablo 1 was so much more atmospheric than the sequel.
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 30 2008 00:53 GMT
#219
On June 30 2008 09:44 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 02:00 Jyvblamo wrote:
Anyone who says Diablo 2 has scarier atmosphere than Diablo 1 obviously has not been stun-locked to death by goatmen.

Also Diablo 1 Succubi > LOD Succubi


Super word on this. Diablo 1 was so much more atmospheric than the sequel.


The only part that scared me when I played the first time (like ~4th grade) was the barracks in a1... goatmen + little black fallens that camouflage with the really dark barracks and a giant armorer guy at the end...
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20664 Posts
June 30 2008 00:57 GMT
#220
The Smith scared the shit out of me in 3rd grade LOL.

I'm looking forward to D3.
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
June 30 2008 01:01 GMT
#221
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 30 2008 01:01 GMT
#222
On June 30 2008 09:57 Last Romantic wrote:
The Smith scared the shit out of me in 3rd grade LOL.

I'm looking forward to D3.


I think the durance of hate was pretty creepy too. Now that I think about it, most of a3 was pretty creepy back then.
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
June 30 2008 01:07 GMT
#223
Is it just me, or do the trailers remind you of team fortress 2 models?
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6226 Posts
June 30 2008 01:10 GMT
#224
I think the graphics are absolutely stunning and shouldn't be changed at all. Also I think the witch doctor looks like an incredible replacement for the necromancer. I'm more excited about this, as is, than starcraft 2 at the moment. I think that Diablo 3 will be an extraordinary advancement in the franchise, by upgrading the two things that made Diablo 2 less than perfect - having to rely on potions and only being able to cast two spells at once without having to change them.

I don't understand how you people could say the graphics are suffering from "warcraft syndrome". I don't think the graphics are at all childish or cartoony. On the contrary, I think that the graphics pay true homage to diablo 2, by not changing the looks of the creatures (especially the goat-men), and adding true gore effects that the graphics engine of the previous games could not handle.

As for only having 5 classes, I'm sure they'll add two or more in an expansion just like LoD.

Anyway, those are my two cents.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 30 2008 01:14 GMT
#225
On June 29 2008 11:45 FreeZEternal wrote:
suddenly i have 0 interest for sc2 -,-;

thats
how
i
feel!
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 30 2008 01:20 GMT
#226
On June 30 2008 10:10 Meta wrote:
I think the graphics are absolutely stunning and shouldn't be changed at all. Also I think the witch doctor looks like an incredible replacement for the necromancer. I'm more excited about this, as is, than starcraft 2 at the moment. I think that Diablo 3 will be an extraordinary advancement in the franchise, by upgrading the two things that made Diablo 2 less than perfect - having to rely on potions and only being able to cast two spells at once without having to change them.

I don't understand how you people could say the graphics are suffering from "warcraft syndrome". I don't think the graphics are at all childish or cartoony. On the contrary, I think that the graphics pay true homage to diablo 2, by not changing the looks of the creatures (especially the goat-men), and adding true gore effects that the graphics engine of the previous games could not handle.

As for only having 5 classes, I'm sure they'll add two or more in an expansion just like LoD.

Anyway, those are my two cents.


In one of the screenshots there's a picture of a fucking rainbow in the background. Does that sound like d3 to you?

Anyways, I think they could use a little less vibrant colors and a little more gloom, but maybe not as much as some of the pictures w/ some filters on it I've seen.
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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 30 2008 01:23 GMT
#227
On June 30 2008 10:01 MYM.Testie wrote:
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Stick to DotA+Poker man...:/
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
June 30 2008 01:24 GMT
#228
poker? testie just dotas 14 hours a day :D
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Cpt.Cocaine
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada299 Posts
June 30 2008 01:34 GMT
#229
On June 30 2008 10:10 Meta wrote:
I don't understand how you people could say the graphics are suffering from "warcraft syndrome". I don't think the graphics are at all childish or cartoony. On the contrary, I think that the graphics pay true homage to diablo 2, by not changing the looks of the creatures (especially the goat-men), and adding true gore effects that the graphics engine of the previous games could not handle.
.


What are you smoking? Bright neon colors, bright cartoony textures, models that look straight out of wow, even the damn blue glow on the axe is straight out of warcraft 3. They could've put unicorns in there and they wouldn't look out of place.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20664 Posts
June 30 2008 01:40 GMT
#230
On June 30 2008 10:01 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 09:57 Last Romantic wrote:
The Smith scared the shit out of me in 3rd grade LOL.

I'm looking forward to D3.


I think the durance of hate was pretty creepy too. Now that I think about it, most of a3 was pretty creepy back then.


those fucking little rat fetish creatures were damn scary, yeah

i didn't even know what a fetish was back then.
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-30 02:12:17
June 30 2008 02:09 GMT
#231
yeah, honestly, i am much more excited about D3 than SC2 at the moment

damn you Blizzard hype machine!!!

edit: Scariest monsters for me were the rat fetishes (hit so fast, then stunlock, then explode on death), goatmen (their hits HURT in hell), and the Smith (curse was fking scary when it takes 1/2 your health)
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 30 2008 02:17 GMT
#232
On June 30 2008 10:40 Last Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 10:01 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 30 2008 09:57 Last Romantic wrote:
The Smith scared the shit out of me in 3rd grade LOL.

I'm looking forward to D3.


I think the durance of hate was pretty creepy too. Now that I think about it, most of a3 was pretty creepy back then.


those fucking little rat fetish creatures were damn scary, yeah

i didn't even know what a fetish was back then.

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Now you know.
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HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
June 30 2008 02:36 GMT
#233
for me the scariest part (first time through) was andariel. I was 13 and shaking!!!

Lol i should have phrased that to make it sound less like child abuse. Anyway, rat fetishes were fucking scary, christ! But they were more like 'oh shit im gona die'; and ps seeing as they appeared in andariel's lair first under whatever name, I guess they count more as hers anyway. That whole way to get to andariel was just gruelling too. Once I got to durance I was cruising with bone spear anyway and found it pretty undaunting (though i was a summon nec first ever time through so i was going around in a security blanket of skellies).

But man you gota admit tristram was pretty daunting the first time you went? I remember shaking and being like OMG THIS IS WHATS REMAINSS OFS PROUDS TRISTRAMS ??!!!!
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
June 30 2008 02:38 GMT
#234
D3 will be sick as fuck ^^
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 30 2008 03:00 GMT
#235
I don't think anyone has topped this one yet...
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 30 2008 03:08 GMT
#236
On June 30 2008 10:40 Last Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 10:01 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 30 2008 09:57 Last Romantic wrote:
The Smith scared the shit out of me in 3rd grade LOL.

I'm looking forward to D3.


I think the durance of hate was pretty creepy too. Now that I think about it, most of a3 was pretty creepy back then.


those fucking little rat fetish creatures were damn scary, yeah

i didn't even know what a fetish was back then.


Lol, the spider things were creepy as fuck too in a3.

Worldstone probably had the creepiest characters, but not as creepy of an environment. They had the fetish/undead dolls, and those fucking souls turn invisible and pop up and shoot lightning and rape you.
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EnergyTraction
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada233 Posts
June 30 2008 03:41 GMT
#237
In terms of "oh shit fuck I'm gonna die" it would be running into massive groups of lightning souls and those bull demons in the Worldstone, especially a boss with fanaticism and conviction, which isn't really that rare

in terms of scary to play, the fuckin Butcher scared the shit out of me when i was seven and playing diablo i
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Cpt.Cocaine
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada299 Posts
June 30 2008 03:46 GMT
#238
Act 3 was the scariest act for me, and, despite everybody else hating it, it was by far my favorite part of the game. There's just something so very moody about a corrupted jungle, ruined temples, torchlights and the sound of crickets.
Cpt.Cocaine
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada299 Posts
June 30 2008 03:47 GMT
#239
... And Ormus! Oh god Ormus was so friggin awesome. I would totally have his babies.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 30 2008 03:55 GMT
#240
Seems like other people also have a bone to pick with the rainbows in Diablo 3:
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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
June 30 2008 03:57 GMT
#241
I'm not really into these type of games, but Diablo 3 looks very interesting. Most likely I will buy it even though D1 and D2 didn't interest me.
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 30 2008 04:04 GMT
#242
On June 30 2008 12:55 Jyvblamo wrote:
Seems like other people also have a bone to pick with the rainbows in Diablo 3:
[image loading]


Hahaha.
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Reflex
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada703 Posts
June 30 2008 06:56 GMT
#243
On June 30 2008 13:04 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 12:55 Jyvblamo wrote:
Seems like other people also have a bone to pick with the rainbows in Diablo 3:
[image loading]


Hahaha.


LOL.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
June 30 2008 07:12 GMT
#244
On June 30 2008 15:56 Reflex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 13:04 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On June 30 2008 12:55 Jyvblamo wrote:
Seems like other people also have a bone to pick with the rainbows in Diablo 3:
[image loading]


Hahaha.


LOL.

Rainbows? They are doing it all wrong, there should be no rainbows.
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iori_LT
Profile Joined May 2003
Lithuania675 Posts
June 30 2008 07:51 GMT
#245
SAY NO TO THE RAINBOWS!! :}
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
June 30 2008 08:32 GMT
#246
Am I the only one who doesnt even see a rainbow in that pic? I suppose there is supposed to be one under that thick red line but... I cant see it
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
June 30 2008 08:40 GMT
#247
On June 30 2008 17:32 DrainX wrote:
Am I the only one who doesnt even see a rainbow in that pic? I suppose there is supposed to be one under that thick red line but... I cant see it


It is pretty subtle, I don't see what all the commotion is about. They put a rainbow next to a waterfall, so what? They will probably remove the effect though because of negative feedback.
It's easier not to.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
June 30 2008 10:02 GMT
#248
i don't want rainbow

i want painbowwwwwwww
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 30 2008 10:31 GMT
#249
moar grimdark!!
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-30 10:36:34
June 30 2008 10:36 GMT
#250
On June 30 2008 17:40 Pangolin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 17:32 DrainX wrote:
Am I the only one who doesnt even see a rainbow in that pic? I suppose there is supposed to be one under that thick red line but... I cant see it


It is pretty subtle, I don't see what all the commotion is about. They put a rainbow next to a waterfall, so what? They will probably remove the effect though because of negative feedback.

the rainbow in the pic is just a placeholder for the grim, dark, atmospheric HELL RAINBOW that will be there in the full release, which will of course be fit to the proper angle for total immersion and realism
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Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
June 30 2008 10:42 GMT
#251
i haven't read through the whole thread so sorry if i repeat a question: doesn't the walk/run speed look a bit slow in the gameplay vid? in d2 one could sweep through the dungeons with such speed and the barbarian in the d3 vid was rather slow in comparison.. or will there be a sprint mode ~trade for stamina as well?
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
June 30 2008 11:34 GMT
#252
He probably had no faster run/walk boots yet, for it was the very beginning of the game.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6226 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-30 12:11:47
June 30 2008 12:08 GMT
#253
On June 30 2008 10:34 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 10:10 Meta wrote:
I don't understand how you people could say the graphics are suffering from "warcraft syndrome". I don't think the graphics are at all childish or cartoony. On the contrary, I think that the graphics pay true homage to diablo 2, by not changing the looks of the creatures (especially the goat-men), and adding true gore effects that the graphics engine of the previous games could not handle.
.


What are you smoking? Bright neon colors, bright cartoony textures, models that look straight out of wow, even the damn blue glow on the axe is straight out of warcraft 3. They could've put unicorns in there and they wouldn't look out of place.


Oh my god, a blue glow, somebody call the fairy police. I would hardly call the look of the graphics in this game "bright", however even if they were in the early parts of the game I'm sure they are going to look ridiculously awesome in later parts of the game, especially if they have the player go back into hell or the durance of hate or the worldstone chamber or any of those places.
I'm not saying that the graphics of the two places we've seen so far-one dungeon and one wooded area-are at all out-of-context in the world of Diablo. I'm just saying that in my mind, the game looks exactly how it should look in every way.

I actually can't believe some people are complaining about the graphics. Just because there isn't blood splattered on every wall and floor doesn't mean your friends will call you gay if you play it.
good vibes only
Constantinius
Profile Joined June 2008
United States64 Posts
June 30 2008 12:56 GMT
#254
On June 30 2008 21:08 Meta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 10:34 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
On June 30 2008 10:10 Meta wrote:
I don't understand how you people could say the graphics are suffering from "warcraft syndrome". I don't think the graphics are at all childish or cartoony. On the contrary, I think that the graphics pay true homage to diablo 2, by not changing the looks of the creatures (especially the goat-men), and adding true gore effects that the graphics engine of the previous games could not handle.
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What are you smoking? Bright neon colors, bright cartoony textures, models that look straight out of wow, even the damn blue glow on the axe is straight out of warcraft 3. They could've put unicorns in there and they wouldn't look out of place.


Oh my god, a blue glow, somebody call the fairy police. I would hardly call the look of the graphics in this game "bright", however even if they were in the early parts of the game I'm sure they are going to look ridiculously awesome in later parts of the game, especially if they have the player go back into hell or the durance of hate or the worldstone chamber or any of those places.
I'm not saying that the graphics of the two places we've seen so far-one dungeon and one wooded area-are at all out-of-context in the world of Diablo. I'm just saying that in my mind, the game looks exactly how it should look in every way.

I actually can't believe some people are complaining about the graphics. Just because there isn't blood splattered on every wall and floor doesn't mean your friends will call you gay if you play it.


Good thing I don't want anything to do with your mind.

I can't believe people can't see that this obviously draws inspiration from the Warcraft III/WoW engine. The blocky, polygonal features that comprise objects in the game detracts significantly from the atmosphere because it forces exaggerations in shape and size of different characters. The mood is QUITE different because of it. Everytime I see the sanded off gryphon and ramparts, and oversized objects when zoomed in close, it pisses me off.

Listen, no one is saying the current graphics are ugly. BUT THEY DON'T F****** FIT. That's the point. Let the WoW people have their franchise, we had a perfectly fine art style of a Gothic art style (I want to draw some allusion to Mary Shelley but it escapes me), and Blizzard has jumped far far away from it. I want, at the very least, a justification.
Dont drink Cristal no more...
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
June 30 2008 13:40 GMT
#255
On June 30 2008 19:42 Ghardo wrote:
i haven't read through the whole thread so sorry if i repeat a question: doesn't the walk/run speed look a bit slow in the gameplay vid? in d2 one could sweep through the dungeons with such speed and the barbarian in the d3 vid was rather slow in comparison.. or will there be a sprint mode ~trade for stamina as well?


There are so many ways to alter runspeed in D2 that it is hard to compare to this exact situation.

In addition they are so early in development that something as detailed as run speed is probably far, far away from being nailed.

A sprint function (for stamina) sounds fun though.
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
June 30 2008 14:03 GMT
#256
D3 is gonna be so cool
aka. Samael
Jusciax
Profile Joined August 2007
Lithuania588 Posts
June 30 2008 14:35 GMT
#257
On June 30 2008 21:56 Constantinius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 21:08 Meta wrote:
On June 30 2008 10:34 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
On June 30 2008 10:10 Meta wrote:
I don't understand how you people could say the graphics are suffering from "warcraft syndrome". I don't think the graphics are at all childish or cartoony. On the contrary, I think that the graphics pay true homage to diablo 2, by not changing the looks of the creatures (especially the goat-men), and adding true gore effects that the graphics engine of the previous games could not handle.
.


What are you smoking? Bright neon colors, bright cartoony textures, models that look straight out of wow, even the damn blue glow on the axe is straight out of warcraft 3. They could've put unicorns in there and they wouldn't look out of place.


Oh my god, a blue glow, somebody call the fairy police. I would hardly call the look of the graphics in this game "bright", however even if they were in the early parts of the game I'm sure they are going to look ridiculously awesome in later parts of the game, especially if they have the player go back into hell or the durance of hate or the worldstone chamber or any of those places.
I'm not saying that the graphics of the two places we've seen so far-one dungeon and one wooded area-are at all out-of-context in the world of Diablo. I'm just saying that in my mind, the game looks exactly how it should look in every way.

I actually can't believe some people are complaining about the graphics. Just because there isn't blood splattered on every wall and floor doesn't mean your friends will call you gay if you play it.


Good thing I don't want anything to do with your mind.

I can't believe people can't see that this obviously draws inspiration from the Warcraft III/WoW engine. The blocky, polygonal features that comprise objects in the game detracts significantly from the atmosphere because it forces exaggerations in shape and size of different characters. The mood is QUITE different because of it. Everytime I see the sanded off gryphon and ramparts, and oversized objects when zoomed in close, it pisses me off.

Listen, no one is saying the current graphics are ugly. BUT THEY DON'T F****** FIT. That's the point. Let the WoW people have their franchise, we had a perfectly fine art style of a Gothic art style (I want to draw some allusion to Mary Shelley but it escapes me), and Blizzard has jumped far far away from it. I want, at the very least, a justification.

I haven't seen anything what you've described here in the video. Diablo3 looks exactly as i expected and i love it.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32135 Posts
June 30 2008 15:12 GMT
#258
On June 30 2008 23:35 Jusciax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2008 21:56 Constantinius wrote:
On June 30 2008 21:08 Meta wrote:
On June 30 2008 10:34 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
On June 30 2008 10:10 Meta wrote:
I don't understand how you people could say the graphics are suffering from "warcraft syndrome". I don't think the graphics are at all childish or cartoony. On the contrary, I think that the graphics pay true homage to diablo 2, by not changing the looks of the creatures (especially the goat-men), and adding true gore effects that the graphics engine of the previous games could not handle.
.


What are you smoking? Bright neon colors, bright cartoony textures, models that look straight out of wow, even the damn blue glow on the axe is straight out of warcraft 3. They could've put unicorns in there and they wouldn't look out of place.


Oh my god, a blue glow, somebody call the fairy police. I would hardly call the look of the graphics in this game "bright", however even if they were in the early parts of the game I'm sure they are going to look ridiculously awesome in later parts of the game, especially if they have the player go back into hell or the durance of hate or the worldstone chamber or any of those places.
I'm not saying that the graphics of the two places we've seen so far-one dungeon and one wooded area-are at all out-of-context in the world of Diablo. I'm just saying that in my mind, the game looks exactly how it should look in every way.

I actually can't believe some people are complaining about the graphics. Just because there isn't blood splattered on every wall and floor doesn't mean your friends will call you gay if you play it.


Good thing I don't want anything to do with your mind.

I can't believe people can't see that this obviously draws inspiration from the Warcraft III/WoW engine. The blocky, polygonal features that comprise objects in the game detracts significantly from the atmosphere because it forces exaggerations in shape and size of different characters. The mood is QUITE different because of it. Everytime I see the sanded off gryphon and ramparts, and oversized objects when zoomed in close, it pisses me off.

Listen, no one is saying the current graphics are ugly. BUT THEY DON'T F****** FIT. That's the point. Let the WoW people have their franchise, we had a perfectly fine art style of a Gothic art style (I want to draw some allusion to Mary Shelley but it escapes me), and Blizzard has jumped far far away from it. I want, at the very least, a justification.

I haven't seen anything what you've described here in the video. Diablo3 looks exactly as i expected and i love it.


Yeah, I'm quite happy with how it looks, and it's not even beta. Couldn't say that about SC2 when they first had it shown.
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EnergyTraction
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada233 Posts
June 30 2008 15:56 GMT
#259
The graphics look fine, I don't think that just because it's Diablo everything outside has to be dark and stormy...yea, sure, in the dungeons it should be, which it is in the gameplay video, but just cause Diablo is sending hell-minions out to kill shit doesn't mean the sun stops shining.

However, while I don't have a problem, I do also think that a darker look would be even better looking
He who adores the Beast shall drink of the wrath of God
LuckyOne
Profile Joined December 2006
266 Posts
June 30 2008 17:19 GMT
#260
seeing evil things in a sunny day with bright colors and rainbow is actually more scary to me
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
June 30 2008 17:55 GMT
#261
On July 01 2008 02:19 LuckyOne wrote:
seeing evil things in a sunny day with bright colors and rainbow is actually more scary to me

yea the thoughts of demons ruining your gay pride parade must just get your panties all knotted up with fear.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Constantinius
Profile Joined June 2008
United States64 Posts
June 30 2008 17:57 GMT
#262
The graphics are fine...which is why every major Diablo site is lit up with long threads debating the changes.

I bet this forum weren't such muppets when Starcraft was clearly subpar.
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 30 2008 18:01 GMT
#263
I'm sure the atmosphere will darken considerably later on, when you get closer to Hell... I think everything is pretty beautiful right now, although a bit more grimdark will improve it somewhat

I'm actually really diggin' the Witch Doctor right now, even though I hated it when I first saw it... The concept of a frail old man with a huge scary mask and hurling fireballs and raising zombies and spreading disease is pretty cool actually... and the skills are all pretty awesome, except I think the zombie wall is a bit lame
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 30 2008 18:12 GMT
#264
On July 01 2008 00:56 EnergyTraction wrote:
The graphics look fine, I don't think that just because it's Diablo everything outside has to be dark and stormy...yea, sure, in the dungeons it should be, which it is in the gameplay video, but just cause Diablo is sending hell-minions out to kill shit doesn't mean the sun stops shining.

However, while I don't have a problem, I do also think that a darker look would be even better looking


You obviously have never battled the hell-minions of diablo, because the sun DOES stop shining.
I was there.

On July 01 2008 02:55 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2008 02:19 LuckyOne wrote:
seeing evil things in a sunny day with bright colors and rainbow is actually more scary to me

yea the thoughts of demons ruining your gay pride parade must just get your panties all knotted up with fear.


LOL.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4000 Posts
June 30 2008 18:45 GMT
#265
The thing that disappointed me most about the graphics was not the colors or the brightness, but the round candles in the dungeon only having 5 sides. If these are the beginning areas of the game, it's not too bright or happy...compared to something like this:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]

LuckyOne
Profile Joined December 2006
266 Posts
June 30 2008 19:38 GMT
#266
On July 01 2008 02:55 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2008 02:19 LuckyOne wrote:
seeing evil things in a sunny day with bright colors and rainbow is actually more scary to me

yea the thoughts of demons ruining your gay pride parade must just get your panties all knotted up with fear.

LOL well you kinda expect to see evil things if there are bones and crap laying around so its not so scary.i think its more scary when unexpected. think of walking in a park on a sunny day then u see a beheaded child.

im talking irl anyway in a game nothing is scary maybe the closest i got to being scared was doom3 late at night. diablo isnt as immersive cause its 3rd person.

but i like the graphics i think if they are too dark u cant see very well whats going on.
plus the atmosphere wont last long till you finish the game for the 1st time.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 30 2008 19:47 GMT
#267
On July 01 2008 03:45 aseq wrote:
The thing that disappointed me most about the graphics was not the colors or the brightness, but the round candles in the dungeon only having 5 sides. If these are the beginning areas of the game, it's not too bright or happy...compared to something like this:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]



I think the fact that the fire from the torches had shadows annoyed me the most about the graphics in diablo.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 30 2008 19:59 GMT
#268
No way this video is real, right? This guy claims he has a beta of D3 and is giving details of the game...>>>????

anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-30 20:24:14
June 30 2008 20:21 GMT
#269
On July 01 2008 04:47 Nitrogen23 wrote:
I think the fact that the fire from the torches had shadows annoyed me the most about the graphics in diablo.

lol, I mentioned this same thing to my friend.

3d Diablo is innovating, but i dont think anyone would zoom in and do battles.

now i fucking hope Blizzcon beta key is for D3.
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
June 30 2008 20:22 GMT
#270
On July 01 2008 05:21 anch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2008 04:47 Nitrogen23 wrote:
I think the fact that the fire from the torches had shadows annoyed me the most about the graphics in diablo.

lol, I mentioned this same thing to my friend.

3d Diablo is innovating, but i dont think anyone would zoom in and do battles.

qq please
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404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
June 30 2008 20:43 GMT
#271
On July 01 2008 04:59 Gokey wrote:
No way this video is real, right? This guy claims he has a beta of D3 and is giving details of the game...>>>????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOqnrhaeXIA&feature=user


Confirmed hoax.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
AdamaS
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
119 Posts
June 30 2008 21:31 GMT
#272
On June 30 2008 21:56 Constantinius wrote:
Good thing I don't want anything to do with your mind.

I can't believe people can't see that this obviously draws inspiration from the Warcraft III/WoW engine. The blocky, polygonal features that comprise objects in the game detracts significantly from the atmosphere because it forces exaggerations in shape and size of different characters. The mood is QUITE different because of it. Everytime I see the sanded off gryphon and ramparts, and oversized objects when zoomed in close, it pisses me off.

Listen, no one is saying the current graphics are ugly. BUT THEY DON'T F****** FIT. That's the point. Let the WoW people have their franchise, we had a perfectly fine art style of a Gothic art style (I want to draw some allusion to Mary Shelley but it escapes me), and Blizzard has jumped far far away from it. I want, at the very least, a justification.


Awesome, don't buy the game and go yell at teenagers with nose piercings with your walking stick, fool.
STiKxSx96
Profile Joined June 2008
United States13 Posts
June 30 2008 23:40 GMT
#273
At first i was a little disappointed in D3.. I was expecting better graphics and something new, instead of a D2 with a new engine.

But it still looks awesome, but hopefully they have many improvements to come.

Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
June 30 2008 23:56 GMT
#274
I never played Diablo so maybe this will give me incentive to start. But I will probably be spending too much time on SC2 =\.
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
July 01 2008 00:13 GMT
#275
D3 looks further along in development than SC2 in a lot of ways, which makes me feel uncomfortable.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
July 01 2008 00:59 GMT
#276
On July 01 2008 09:13 Nintu wrote:
D3 looks further along in development than SC2 in a lot of ways, which makes me feel uncomfortable.


The fact that they only feel comfortable showing off 2 of the 5 classes planned, and only 2 environments, makes believe D3 is still behind SC2. I felt the same way when I saw the D3 video, but what they showed and were able to talk about was actually a minute part of the what one would expect from D3.

SC2, environments look almost done, races are ...well races could arguably never be finished, people will always have issues, even blizzard. They sound like the single player is just being polished, and the UI all but set. So we'll see. My money is still on SC2 being released 2 or so months before D3.
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Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
July 01 2008 01:08 GMT
#277
Since there are no ETAs yet we can expect them to tweak the shit out of it just like they did with SC2.

Might as well show some fucking input... here's mine:


-Make the scenery darker
-Skills need to be more colorful please, I thought the barb was using normal hits at the beginning and not skills
-More than just 5 classes (i haven't seen the rest yet) but just in case we are stuck with the same old classes, Blizzard might want to throw in some new classes and not just rehash the necro and give him a name like witch doctor, please at least one new class.

Also lots of dungeons!
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404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
July 01 2008 01:30 GMT
#278
On July 01 2008 09:59 Railz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2008 09:13 Nintu wrote:
D3 looks further along in development than SC2 in a lot of ways, which makes me feel uncomfortable.


The fact that they only feel comfortable showing off 2 of the 5 classes planned, and only 2 environments, makes believe D3 is still behind SC2. I felt the same way when I saw the D3 video, but what they showed and were able to talk about was actually a minute part of the what one would expect from D3.

SC2, environments look almost done, races are ...well races could arguably never be finished, people will always have issues, even blizzard. They sound like the single player is just being polished, and the UI all but set. So we'll see. My money is still on SC2 being released 2 or so months before D3.


Yeah, I agree with most of that. That's why I said "in a lot of ways."

The environment, the engine, the UI (Health and Mana bubble textures are SEXY!) all look more refined and developed than SC2's. Both games still have lots of work to do, but If SC2 developers impressed me before, then the D3 devs are my fucking heroes.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
July 01 2008 02:42 GMT
#279
FUCK IT LOOKS SO FCIKINGG AWESOEMEEEEEEE
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Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-01 06:13:13
July 01 2008 05:06 GMT
#280
On June 29 2008 17:56 zoLo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2008 16:42 Shade692003 wrote:
On June 29 2008 15:05 zoLo wrote:
On June 29 2008 13:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Doesn't look like D3 is the next gen MMO, seeing how on the job listing D3 icons are already visible and the
[image loading]
is still being shown next to some job positions. Probably Universe of StarCraft.


Or Hydra.


Hydra IS diablo 3


No it's not since at the Diablo 3 panel they said Hydra isn't related to Diablo 3.


http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/media/artwork.xml

Third pic on the first row of the second page. You may resume failling.


I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
July 01 2008 05:26 GMT
#281
Regardless, on their job listing they still have 'top secret MMO' listed so it's a toss-up.
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 01 2008 06:00 GMT
#282
Really not a fan of the "health bubbles"
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
July 01 2008 06:14 GMT
#283
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
July 01 2008 07:07 GMT
#284
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


It was never said that the globs were replacing pots completely. Boss fights would be near next to impossible at the lower levels with no pots.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
iori_LT
Profile Joined May 2003
Lithuania675 Posts
July 01 2008 07:25 GMT
#285
On July 01 2008 15:00 NotSorry wrote:
Really not a fan of the "health bubbles"
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11563 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-01 07:30:03
July 01 2008 07:29 GMT
#286
On July 01 2008 15:00 NotSorry wrote:
Really not a fan of the "health bubbles"


Agree, and I like seeing the Barbarian back. My first & only char <3

I might actually play this for more than a week.
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ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-01 12:10:48
July 01 2008 12:10 GMT
#287
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.
AdamaS
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
119 Posts
July 01 2008 12:28 GMT
#288
In WOW it was a dice roll kinda thing...I reckon two copies of everything ought to be dropped, I mean seriously people are going to item dupe anyhow.
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-01 12:57:49
July 01 2008 12:52 GMT
#289
Am I the only one that thinks when the video revealed the witchdoctor class that they're surely gonna put

OO EE OO AA AA TING TANG WALA WALA BING BANG

somewhere in there?
"Eyes in the sky."
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9580 Posts
July 01 2008 14:00 GMT
#290
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
July 01 2008 14:19 GMT
#291
Anyone know what happens with the loot that I don't need? Does it become "public" after a few seconds so other people can pick it up? Assume I just found a Gaylord's Pink Feather Boa of Humping with my barbarian and want to give it to the witch doctor in my party. After all, party play is important, they say. Wouldn't it be complicated having to return to town, open a trade window and give it to the witch doctor?
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9580 Posts
July 01 2008 14:55 GMT
#292
IMO it works like this:
1) boss drops items - only you can see it and pick it up.
2) you pick up items and put them into your inventory, then drop them - your party members can see it (but there might be a small time delay before they can pick it up after you? - like 5 s)

Keep in mid here I'm only speculating how it works.
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SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
July 01 2008 15:56 GMT
#293
I have more hope in d3 than in sc2 -,-v
-,-
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 01 2008 16:29 GMT
#294
Yeah, I really like how they are fixing the loot system... It really kills the party mood when you have to frantically grab at every item that drops... If you keep the important drops separate for players, you won't have to worry about that...

Also, I really like the money and health system (e.g. it's automatically shared between the party)... It really encourages group play

Thumbs up, Blizz!
theonemephisto
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States409 Posts
July 01 2008 16:33 GMT
#295
So basically they're taking a Guild Wars (might not have been the first to do it, just the one I have experience with) approach to loot division, where each piece is randomly assigned to a character?

I know how they did it in Guild Wars is that each piece of loot is randomly assigned to a character, though everyone else can see what it is. Then after 30ish seconds of sitting on the floor, the limitation is removed and anyone can grab it. Also, if you pick something up then drop it, anyone can take it.
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
July 01 2008 16:56 GMT
#296
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.


Hmm, what do you mean? When I played D2 everyone could grab the stuff on the ground, there was no separation for each player. You must be talking about a different game because afaik there was no patch that changed that.
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
July 01 2008 17:38 GMT
#297
Anyone else find D3 final-fantasy+evil resident-ish??

Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
July 01 2008 17:42 GMT
#298
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.


Is this true? Can you confirm this, because that would be awesome. Maybe I might not get the best drop from a kill, but at least now I am guaranteed to get something. It was so frustrating sometimes not getting the shit.

And btw, I would take the Ber over the Zod anyday really, unless I needed a botd.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9580 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-01 18:07:29
July 01 2008 17:58 GMT
#299
Here is confirmation of what I said (about loot being separate for every player in the game):

http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10129
number10 on that list: 10) Loot Per Player System (L.P.P System)

Keep in mind that this COULD still change before the release but I find it very unlikely.
And:
They said so during the Q&A of the Design Panel on the first day of the WWI. Someone asked a question about what they were doing to address the rush for loot that happens in many games when a boss dies, and they responded that (in essence) everybody gets their own loot drop. Basically, it drops loot like HGL, at least at this stage.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 01 2008 18:32 GMT
#300
http://www.petitiononline.com/d3art/petition.html

If you don't like the colors for the game, look at this petition...
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 01 2008 18:49 GMT
#301
On July 01 2008 21:52 Aerox wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks when the video revealed the witchdoctor class that they're surely gonna put

OO EE OO AA AA TING TANG WALA WALA BING BANG

somewhere in there?

Lol like the one in WC3
willy willy wanga!
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 01 2008 19:01 GMT
#302
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.

That sounds fucking retarded.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
July 01 2008 19:33 GMT
#303
On July 02 2008 04:01 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.

That sounds fucking retarded.


You guys are so silly. I really doubt the dev team is actively focusing on this topic right now. Arguing over a detail like this is so ridiculous because it takes the dev team 20 minutes to implement a different system(Like need/greed/pass). If people don't like it, or if there is an issue, they'll change it. In the meantime, I say stop getting caught up with these sort of details.

They'll probably have a few loot options.
<Classic> (For when you're playing with friends)
<Separate Loot System>
<Need/Greed/Pass>
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17744 Posts
July 01 2008 19:40 GMT
#304
I want some evil characters Or maybe an option to turn evil halfway through the storyline (Paladin -> Dark Templar or sth). Playing some bad ass evil to the bone fighter employing dark sorceries is my kind of shit.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
July 01 2008 19:50 GMT
#305
On July 01 2008 16:07 Railz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


It was never said that the globs were replacing pots completely. Boss fights would be near next to impossible at the lower levels with no pots.


wtf? I said OVERuse, like, not USE. I have no idea why you think I was implying I was for a total axing of potions. I am implying that the fact potions will less of a focus will be a good thing and keep the action going up. God.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
July 01 2008 19:57 GMT
#306
On July 02 2008 04:50 Shade692003 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2008 16:07 Railz wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


It was never said that the globs were replacing pots completely. Boss fights would be near next to impossible at the lower levels with no pots.


wtf? I said OVERuse, like, not USE. I have no idea why you think I was implying I was for a total axing of potions. I am implying that the fact potions will less of a focus will be a good thing and keep the action going up. God.



I'm sorry then. It is just many people are giving weird imputs on the game with all the WoW players trying to tell them how it should be. Very frustrating!
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
July 01 2008 20:02 GMT
#307
AFAIK, about the loot system, it will be more like Hellgate London, which is not "players are randomly give a item from the drop, so everyone is even" it's more like "everyone killed Baal on their side, and each one gets a equivalent of a full drop".
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
SlickR12345
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Macedonia408 Posts
July 01 2008 20:21 GMT
#308
On July 02 2008 04:33 Nintu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 04:01 NotSorry wrote:
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.

That sounds fucking retarded.


You guys are so silly. I really doubt the dev team is actively focusing on this topic right now. Arguing over a detail like this is so ridiculous because it takes the dev team 20 minutes to implement a different system(Like need/greed/pass). If people don't like it, or if there is an issue, they'll change it. In the meantime, I say stop getting caught up with these sort of details.

They'll probably have a few loot options.
<Classic> (For when you're playing with friends)
<Separate Loot System>
<Need/Greed/Pass>

No they are going to have 1 and only loot system.
It works like the guy described, you play with a friend and you kill baal for example, he will drop separate items for you and separate for him and you can only see the items dropped for you and he can only see the items dropped for him.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 01 2008 20:25 GMT
#309
On July 02 2008 05:21 SlickR12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 04:33 Nintu wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:01 NotSorry wrote:
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.

That sounds fucking retarded.


You guys are so silly. I really doubt the dev team is actively focusing on this topic right now. Arguing over a detail like this is so ridiculous because it takes the dev team 20 minutes to implement a different system(Like need/greed/pass). If people don't like it, or if there is an issue, they'll change it. In the meantime, I say stop getting caught up with these sort of details.

They'll probably have a few loot options.
<Classic> (For when you're playing with friends)
<Separate Loot System>
<Need/Greed/Pass>

No they are going to have 1 and only loot system.
It works like the guy described, you play with a friend and you kill baal for example, he will drop separate items for you and separate for him and you can only see the items dropped for you and he can only see the items dropped for him.


Oh god... that's a terrible idea. As soon as a d3 loader comes out, you will be able to just bring 7x other characters into your game with you,all with high mf but no attacking power. Then your main character will just kill baal and you'll get 8x drops...
UNFUCK YOURSELF
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
July 01 2008 20:37 GMT
#310
On July 02 2008 05:25 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 05:21 SlickR12345 wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:33 Nintu wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:01 NotSorry wrote:
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.

That sounds fucking retarded.


You guys are so silly. I really doubt the dev team is actively focusing on this topic right now. Arguing over a detail like this is so ridiculous because it takes the dev team 20 minutes to implement a different system(Like need/greed/pass). If people don't like it, or if there is an issue, they'll change it. In the meantime, I say stop getting caught up with these sort of details.

They'll probably have a few loot options.
<Classic> (For when you're playing with friends)
<Separate Loot System>
<Need/Greed/Pass>

No they are going to have 1 and only loot system.
It works like the guy described, you play with a friend and you kill baal for example, he will drop separate items for you and separate for him and you can only see the items dropped for you and he can only see the items dropped for him.


Oh god... that's a terrible idea. As soon as a d3 loader comes out, you will be able to just bring 7x other characters into your game with you,all with high mf but no attacking power. Then your main character will just kill baal and you'll get 8x drops...


This problem can be solved easily. The items should be of the same level as the character that grabs them. No abuse possible.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 01 2008 20:41 GMT
#311
On July 02 2008 05:37 ForAdun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 05:25 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On July 02 2008 05:21 SlickR12345 wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:33 Nintu wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:01 NotSorry wrote:
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.

That sounds fucking retarded.


You guys are so silly. I really doubt the dev team is actively focusing on this topic right now. Arguing over a detail like this is so ridiculous because it takes the dev team 20 minutes to implement a different system(Like need/greed/pass). If people don't like it, or if there is an issue, they'll change it. In the meantime, I say stop getting caught up with these sort of details.

They'll probably have a few loot options.
<Classic> (For when you're playing with friends)
<Separate Loot System>
<Need/Greed/Pass>

No they are going to have 1 and only loot system.
It works like the guy described, you play with a friend and you kill baal for example, he will drop separate items for you and separate for him and you can only see the items dropped for you and he can only see the items dropped for him.


Oh god... that's a terrible idea. As soon as a d3 loader comes out, you will be able to just bring 7x other characters into your game with you,all with high mf but no attacking power. Then your main character will just kill baal and you'll get 8x drops...


This problem can be solved easily. The items should be of the same level as the character that grabs them. No abuse possible.


Ah that's a good idea, but then it ruins mfers. Now you can mf with whatever gear you want, completely destroying the old idea of +mf%.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6226 Posts
July 01 2008 21:00 GMT
#312
On July 02 2008 05:37 ForAdun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 05:25 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On July 02 2008 05:21 SlickR12345 wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:33 Nintu wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:01 NotSorry wrote:
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.

That sounds fucking retarded.


You guys are so silly. I really doubt the dev team is actively focusing on this topic right now. Arguing over a detail like this is so ridiculous because it takes the dev team 20 minutes to implement a different system(Like need/greed/pass). If people don't like it, or if there is an issue, they'll change it. In the meantime, I say stop getting caught up with these sort of details.

They'll probably have a few loot options.
<Classic> (For when you're playing with friends)
<Separate Loot System>
<Need/Greed/Pass>

No they are going to have 1 and only loot system.
It works like the guy described, you play with a friend and you kill baal for example, he will drop separate items for you and separate for him and you can only see the items dropped for you and he can only see the items dropped for him.


Oh god... that's a terrible idea. As soon as a d3 loader comes out, you will be able to just bring 7x other characters into your game with you,all with high mf but no attacking power. Then your main character will just kill baal and you'll get 8x drops...


This problem can be solved easily. The items should be of the same level as the character that grabs them. No abuse possible.


high mf characters can be high level. 8x the drops for 8x the effort of leveling 8 characters as opposed to one is worth it imo.
good vibes only
TehKris
Profile Joined October 2006
Norway322 Posts
July 01 2008 21:22 GMT
#313
On July 02 2008 05:41 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 05:37 ForAdun wrote:
On July 02 2008 05:25 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On July 02 2008 05:21 SlickR12345 wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:33 Nintu wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:01 NotSorry wrote:
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.

That sounds fucking retarded.


You guys are so silly. I really doubt the dev team is actively focusing on this topic right now. Arguing over a detail like this is so ridiculous because it takes the dev team 20 minutes to implement a different system(Like need/greed/pass). If people don't like it, or if there is an issue, they'll change it. In the meantime, I say stop getting caught up with these sort of details.

They'll probably have a few loot options.
<Classic> (For when you're playing with friends)
<Separate Loot System>
<Need/Greed/Pass>

No they are going to have 1 and only loot system.
It works like the guy described, you play with a friend and you kill baal for example, he will drop separate items for you and separate for him and you can only see the items dropped for you and he can only see the items dropped for him.


Oh god... that's a terrible idea. As soon as a d3 loader comes out, you will be able to just bring 7x other characters into your game with you,all with high mf but no attacking power. Then your main character will just kill baal and you'll get 8x drops...


This problem can be solved easily. The items should be of the same level as the character that grabs them. No abuse possible.


Ah that's a good idea, but then it ruins mfers. Now you can mf with whatever gear you want, completely destroying the old idea of +mf%.


I don't see how u draw that conclusion. It's still (AFAIK) high MF = bigger chance of better items. So if we have 2 players, one with 100% mf, and one with 500% mf, if the the 500% mf kills the enemy, the drop will be better than if the 100% mf kills the enemy (in theory).
Pro Red Alert 2 gamer, aka TR)Microzone on sc.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 01 2008 21:25 GMT
#314
On July 02 2008 06:22 TehKris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 05:41 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On July 02 2008 05:37 ForAdun wrote:
On July 02 2008 05:25 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On July 02 2008 05:21 SlickR12345 wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:33 Nintu wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:01 NotSorry wrote:
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.

That sounds fucking retarded.


You guys are so silly. I really doubt the dev team is actively focusing on this topic right now. Arguing over a detail like this is so ridiculous because it takes the dev team 20 minutes to implement a different system(Like need/greed/pass). If people don't like it, or if there is an issue, they'll change it. In the meantime, I say stop getting caught up with these sort of details.

They'll probably have a few loot options.
<Classic> (For when you're playing with friends)
<Separate Loot System>
<Need/Greed/Pass>

No they are going to have 1 and only loot system.
It works like the guy described, you play with a friend and you kill baal for example, he will drop separate items for you and separate for him and you can only see the items dropped for you and he can only see the items dropped for him.


Oh god... that's a terrible idea. As soon as a d3 loader comes out, you will be able to just bring 7x other characters into your game with you,all with high mf but no attacking power. Then your main character will just kill baal and you'll get 8x drops...


This problem can be solved easily. The items should be of the same level as the character that grabs them. No abuse possible.


Ah that's a good idea, but then it ruins mfers. Now you can mf with whatever gear you want, completely destroying the old idea of +mf%.


I don't see how u draw that conclusion. It's still (AFAIK) high MF = bigger chance of better items. So if we have 2 players, one with 100% mf, and one with 500% mf, if the the 500% mf kills the enemy, the drop will be better than if the 100% mf kills the enemy (in theory).


I'm just saying that if we were to base drops completely on level, mf% wouldn't matter anymore. If we were to base it on mf, you'd just gather up 8 characters, 7 of which have incredibly high mf and no attacking power, 1 of which kills all the stuff. You kill baal and get 8x the drops.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
July 01 2008 21:44 GMT
#315
It doesn't work that way in D2 either. D2 counts only the mf% of the character who did the killing blow. Seven low level mf chumps only standing around doesn't do anything. As a possible enhancement, we might imagine including the percentage of damage dealt to a monster by each party member into the drop formula, and weighing their respective mf% accordingly.
AdamaS
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
119 Posts
July 01 2008 22:30 GMT
#316
The monster should just drop items that are equivalent to the difficulty level of the monster. Isn't that how it already is?

On July 02 2008 04:33 Nintu wrote:
You guys are so silly. I really doubt the dev team is actively focusing on this topic right now. Arguing over a detail like this is so ridiculous because it takes the dev team 20 minutes to implement a different system(Like need/greed/pass). If people don't like it, or if there is an issue, they'll change it. In the meantime, I say stop getting caught up with these sort of details.


This is a bigger bloody deal than MBS, it's stupid to tell people not to discuss it since it's such an annoying issue.
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
July 01 2008 22:39 GMT
#317
Yeah I see the problem but I think it can all be solved. I don't think we have to work on that, I guess the programmers know about 100 different solutions and are already arguing which of the top 10 is best.
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
July 01 2008 22:55 GMT
#318
On July 02 2008 05:21 SlickR12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 04:33 Nintu wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:01 NotSorry wrote:
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.

That sounds fucking retarded.


You guys are so silly. I really doubt the dev team is actively focusing on this topic right now. Arguing over a detail like this is so ridiculous because it takes the dev team 20 minutes to implement a different system(Like need/greed/pass). If people don't like it, or if there is an issue, they'll change it. In the meantime, I say stop getting caught up with these sort of details.

They'll probably have a few loot options.
<Classic> (For when you're playing with friends)
<Separate Loot System>
<Need/Greed/Pass>

No they are going to have 1 and only loot system.
It works like the guy described, you play with a friend and you kill baal for example, he will drop separate items for you and separate for him and you can only see the items dropped for you and he can only see the items dropped for him.


What part of
"Everything subject to change,"
"Unfinished product,"
"Just a demo,"
"Experimentation," and
"Give us feedback,"

Translated to:
"No they are going to have 1 and only loot system."

Other than the fact that you have no authority to make such a claim, blizzard has clearly stated that matters such as these are subject to change.

"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
July 01 2008 22:55 GMT
#319
I need to buy a new comp for D3/SC2 now jeez.
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
July 01 2008 23:01 GMT
#320
On July 02 2008 07:30 AdamaS wrote:
The monster should just drop items that are equivalent to the difficulty level of the monster. Isn't that how it already is?

Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 04:33 Nintu wrote:
You guys are so silly. I really doubt the dev team is actively focusing on this topic right now. Arguing over a detail like this is so ridiculous because it takes the dev team 20 minutes to implement a different system(Like need/greed/pass). If people don't like it, or if there is an issue, they'll change it. In the meantime, I say stop getting caught up with these sort of details.


This is a bigger bloody deal than MBS, it's stupid to tell people not to discuss it since it's such an annoying issue.


Bigger deal than MBS? SC2 Devs have been working on that issue for months and the lead developer has even stated that they're trying everything, including the "bad" ideas to try and fix it, but nothing has worked yet. It's divided the SC community to the point of petitions, countless 50 page debates, and hilarious screenshots like "1 button press!!"

It is considered to be that biggest issue and controversy around SC2, and is alienating veteran players.

Compared to d3 loot system, which we don't have enough information to judge yet, MBS is much worse.

We've already came up with a bunch of solutions, all of which are implementable within a few hours.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 01 2008 23:11 GMT
#321
On July 02 2008 06:44 Scorch wrote:
It doesn't work that way in D2 either. D2 counts only the mf% of the character who did the killing blow. Seven low level mf chumps only standing around doesn't do anything. As a possible enhancement, we might imagine including the percentage of damage dealt to a monster by each party member into the drop formula, and weighing their respective mf% accordingly.


I'm talking about D3, not D2. I think the dropping system should be just the way it was in d2, it worked just fine. I don't really like the whole "separate" drop system.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
July 01 2008 23:59 GMT
#322
So you prefer it when playing in a public party is not fun?
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
July 02 2008 00:09 GMT
#323
On July 02 2008 08:11 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 06:44 Scorch wrote:
It doesn't work that way in D2 either. D2 counts only the mf% of the character who did the killing blow. Seven low level mf chumps only standing around doesn't do anything. As a possible enhancement, we might imagine including the percentage of damage dealt to a monster by each party member into the drop formula, and weighing their respective mf% accordingly.


I'm talking about D3, not D2. I think the dropping system should be just the way it was in d2, it worked just fine. I don't really like the whole "separate" drop system.



Translation: ehhhhhhhh change =/
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 02 2008 00:15 GMT
#324
On July 02 2008 09:09 Shade692003 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 08:11 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On July 02 2008 06:44 Scorch wrote:
It doesn't work that way in D2 either. D2 counts only the mf% of the character who did the killing blow. Seven low level mf chumps only standing around doesn't do anything. As a possible enhancement, we might imagine including the percentage of damage dealt to a monster by each party member into the drop formula, and weighing their respective mf% accordingly.


I'm talking about D3, not D2. I think the dropping system should be just the way it was in d2, it worked just fine. I don't really like the whole "separate" drop system.



Translation: ehhhhhhhh change =/


I wouldn't mind a change, if they can pull off this whole separate drop system, that would be great. But, it seems like there's many ways around it that you can use to greatly benefit yourself.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
July 02 2008 00:59 GMT
#325
Well, if you manage to fully deck out 7 characters with full MF gear, all of them at high level, and purchasing EIGHT copies of the game, going all the length to multiboot, you might as well earn that gear.

That aside, it's sure Blizzard can think of some small things to prevent big abuse (like instead of multiboot, a clan dedicated to it). That system is WAYYYY better than the idiotic clickfest which advantages melee characters and screw you royally if you have lag.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Morzas
Profile Joined August 2005
United States387 Posts
July 02 2008 01:28 GMT
#326
On July 02 2008 04:40 Manit0u wrote:
I want some evil characters Or maybe an option to turn evil halfway through the storyline (Paladin -> Dark Templar or sth). Playing some bad ass evil to the bone fighter employing dark sorceries is my kind of shit.


I like the idea of being able to 'fall', but it'll only work if they pull it off right. Too many RPGs claim "choose between good and evil" when they really mean "choose between good and random asshole". Oh boy, I randomly killed some insignificant NPC, I'm a real tough guy there! In a good RPG, when you pick the evil path, you should be guiding a massive army to the destruction of the universe, not killing random NPCs until a bunch of overpowered guardsmen surround you and gangbang you.

Of course, Diablo has never been a story-focused game (which is a waste, they've got really goos fluff written up), and I doubt this sort of thing could ever happen.
What has four wheels and flies? Stephen Hawking on LSD!
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-02 01:30:54
July 02 2008 01:29 GMT
#327
On July 02 2008 09:59 Shade692003 wrote:
Well, if you manage to fully deck out 7 characters with full MF gear, all of them at high level, and purchasing EIGHT copies of the game, going all the length to multiboot, you might as well earn that gear.

That aside, it's sure Blizzard can think of some small things to prevent big abuse (like instead of multiboot, a clan dedicated to it). That system is WAYYYY better than the idiotic clickfest which advantages melee characters and screw you royally if you have lag.


I agree that it is a better system, and it would be nice to have. I hope they don't have to scrap mf gear or ilvls or something to get it to work though.

Edit: I would rather have the old system than one w/o +mf gear and ilvls.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Morzas
Profile Joined August 2005
United States387 Posts
July 02 2008 01:30 GMT
#328
On July 02 2008 05:37 ForAdun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 05:25 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On July 02 2008 05:21 SlickR12345 wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:33 Nintu wrote:
On July 02 2008 04:01 NotSorry wrote:
On July 01 2008 23:00 Latham wrote:
On July 01 2008 21:10 ForAdun wrote:
On July 01 2008 15:14 Shade692003 wrote:
I like it. One of the very few flaw of Diablo 2 imo was it's overuse and overdependance on potions.


I don't see that. Potions are a good tool to keep your char alive. What works better?

Imo the biggest flaw was the item madness resulting in massive frustration when you find but can't pick up your best item ever because someone else grabbed it before you and in the worst case there's a grabhacker in your party. I think they have to find a solution to that problem or D3 will be just another grabfest which really kills the fun.


Haven't you heard? Everyone will get their each and separate loot. Like we kill Baal a Zod rune drops for me and you get Ber rune. You can only see the crap that drops for you and therefore you can't pick up the shit that drops for me. If I'm feeling cocky i can taunt you with that Zod I found and show it to you in a trade window and laught. Basically you can't do jack shit about it.

That sounds fucking retarded.


You guys are so silly. I really doubt the dev team is actively focusing on this topic right now. Arguing over a detail like this is so ridiculous because it takes the dev team 20 minutes to implement a different system(Like need/greed/pass). If people don't like it, or if there is an issue, they'll change it. In the meantime, I say stop getting caught up with these sort of details.

They'll probably have a few loot options.
<Classic> (For when you're playing with friends)
<Separate Loot System>
<Need/Greed/Pass>

No they are going to have 1 and only loot system.
It works like the guy described, you play with a friend and you kill baal for example, he will drop separate items for you and separate for him and you can only see the items dropped for you and he can only see the items dropped for him.


Oh god... that's a terrible idea. As soon as a d3 loader comes out, you will be able to just bring 7x other characters into your game with you,all with high mf but no attacking power. Then your main character will just kill baal and you'll get 8x drops...


This problem can be solved easily. The items should be of the same level as the character that grabs them. No abuse possible.


Or they could allow only one drop per IP address. Although, if someone pay for 8 D3 CD keys, I think they're entitled to 8 drops.
What has four wheels and flies? Stephen Hawking on LSD!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 02 2008 01:31 GMT
#329
On July 02 2008 08:11 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 06:44 Scorch wrote:
It doesn't work that way in D2 either. D2 counts only the mf% of the character who did the killing blow. Seven low level mf chumps only standing around doesn't do anything. As a possible enhancement, we might imagine including the percentage of damage dealt to a monster by each party member into the drop formula, and weighing their respective mf% accordingly.


I'm talking about D3, not D2. I think the dropping system should be just the way it was in d2, it worked just fine. I don't really like the whole "separate" drop system.



I do. there is nothing fun about the guy with the fastest PC/connection always getting the loot first



in fact, there is nothing fun about any one particular person always getting the loot first regardless of how fast they can click or w/e
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
July 02 2008 07:46 GMT
#330
anyone else notice the gem on the d3 site? wonder if you press it enough you find secret content!
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 02 2008 08:57 GMT
#331
On July 02 2008 16:46 Snet wrote:
anyone else notice the gem on the d3 site? wonder if you press it enough you find secret content!

"Sometimes a gem is just a gem"
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 02 2008 08:59 GMT
#332
On July 02 2008 10:31 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2008 08:11 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On July 02 2008 06:44 Scorch wrote:
It doesn't work that way in D2 either. D2 counts only the mf% of the character who did the killing blow. Seven low level mf chumps only standing around doesn't do anything. As a possible enhancement, we might imagine including the percentage of damage dealt to a monster by each party member into the drop formula, and weighing their respective mf% accordingly.


I'm talking about D3, not D2. I think the dropping system should be just the way it was in d2, it worked just fine. I don't really like the whole "separate" drop system.



I do. there is nothing fun about the guy with the fastest PC/connection always getting the loot first



in fact, there is nothing fun about any one particular person always getting the loot first regardless of how fast they can click or w/e


It's just something you have to get good at, I don't have the greatest ping on bnet, but I can still get some good things most of the time, it just takes practice.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
July 02 2008 09:09 GMT
#333
On June 28 2008 21:53 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
Looks like the graphics are suffering from warcraft syndrome... again. With a bit of work this could have potential.


yeah I know what you mean and even though it doesn't feel like diablo2 I still like the new look^^
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
July 02 2008 16:12 GMT
#334
Some of my most exciting moments in Diablo 2 were the mad dashes for items at baal, and the times you actually beat the people with auto-pick hacks for the shako, or whatever, that drops. Not complaining about a new drop system though, as long as diablo strays away from soulbound shit I will be happy with anything.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 02 2008 18:46 GMT
#335
Honestly I think separated loot is as retarded for a diablo game as Soulbinding items would be.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
July 02 2008 18:46 GMT
#336
I used to run 50+ Baal runs in a row in hardcore. No way I had the best computer/fastest connection but I am always able to snatch 50% of the loot. I usually aim for "golden" drops, which I am able to pick up 90% of the time
靈魂交響曲
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 04 2008 23:38 GMT
#337
Everyone stopped posting in this thread... I'm gonna go ahead and bump it.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 05 2008 17:01 GMT
#338
Okay, okay. I have an idea now. I wish the game wasn't based so much on luck. Like sure, there would still be a % chance to block etc, but if any of you have ever played zvz duels, a majority of it is pure luck... I hope blizzard figures out a way to use less luck, but still leave a little in the game.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-05 17:24:58
July 05 2008 17:24 GMT
#339
Uhm, just don't make everything dependant on luck, a much better solution. Luck should stay as it is but it shouldn't be the main reason for one to be #1 ladder and the other one to be #100.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
September 17 2008 01:31 GMT
#340
So Blizzard says that the next D3 class announcement will anger fans =O

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54765
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
September 17 2008 01:45 GMT
#341
I'm guessing its either the Amazon or Sorceress replacement class being announced. With Sorceress having a slightly higher possibility. Since so many people use them to MF...

Damn, I like dark hair Latinos... Give them back!
靈魂交響曲
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 18 2008 01:18 GMT
#342
All the barbarian players are delighted and all the necromancers hate us. I understand, I don't begrudge them that. I would hate me too! But what I would say is that when we announce the next class, which is quite similar to a previous class, then all those players will hate us too. You can't make everybody happy, but I think when the game finally come out players will find there's a good class for them, one they will love as much as the ones that came before. And if they don't, I absolutely promise that in the expansions we'll consider bringing back old classes.


I wonder...
Source
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closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-18 01:24:19
September 18 2008 01:23 GMT
#343
On July 06 2008 02:01 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Okay, okay. I have an idea now. I wish the game wasn't based so much on luck. Like sure, there would still be a % chance to block etc, but if any of you have ever played zvz duels, a majority of it is pure luck... I hope blizzard figures out a way to use less luck, but still leave a little in the game.


saying that ZvZ = luck is retarded
do you think that you can few games vs say, ChoJJa? Hell, would you win a single game if he played safe?

diablo is a game based on luck - first you need luck (or paypal) to get the items, then you need the time to level your chars, then your characters still do random damage, have random chance to block, random chance to hit... - perhaps they could introduce some sort of system, that would allow "standardized" duels - the characters would have the same items, same amount of life, do the same damage - but IM afraid that it would turn into boring zealot vs zealot micro.. unless they introduce spell casting or something like that
Antifate
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States415 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-18 02:15:29
September 18 2008 02:12 GMT
#344
Closed, I think he's saying ZvZ as, 'Zon vs. 'Zon. >.>

Lightning 'zons (and even arrow 'zons) tend to have unstable damage. Critical strikes are abundant, and the damage range is enormous, even though the averages are decent.

Part of dueling is random luck. What if someone corpse explosions a random body laying by or w.e.

Most of the time however, to counteract this luck, duelists go at it like 10 times to make sure someone is superior.

Edit: "Duellers" is not a word. >.>
No one is taller than the last man standing.
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4664 Posts
September 18 2008 02:43 GMT
#345
On September 18 2008 11:12 Antifate wrote:
Edit: "Duellers" is not a word. >.>


So, I'd use it anyway

Anyways, I'm kind of torn on the "randomness" factor in PvP. Of course, there are thousands of topics based upon WoW PvP randomness all over the place, and they could hold some merit to Diablo based randomness.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
September 18 2008 02:45 GMT
#346
On September 18 2008 10:23 closed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2008 02:01 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Okay, okay. I have an idea now. I wish the game wasn't based so much on luck. Like sure, there would still be a % chance to block etc, but if any of you have ever played zvz duels, a majority of it is pure luck... I hope blizzard figures out a way to use less luck, but still leave a little in the game.


saying that ZvZ = luck is retarded
do you think that you can few games vs say, ChoJJa? Hell, would you win a single game if he played safe?

diablo is a game based on luck - first you need luck (or paypal) to get the items, then you need the time to level your chars, then your characters still do random damage, have random chance to block, random chance to hit... - perhaps they could introduce some sort of system, that would allow "standardized" duels - the characters would have the same items, same amount of life, do the same damage - but IM afraid that it would turn into boring zealot vs zealot micro.. unless they introduce spell casting or something like that


zon vs zon
UNFUCK YOURSELF
closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-21 20:27:03
September 21 2008 20:23 GMT
#347
On September 18 2008 11:45 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2008 10:23 closed wrote:
On July 06 2008 02:01 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Okay, okay. I have an idea now. I wish the game wasn't based so much on luck. Like sure, there would still be a % chance to block etc, but if any of you have ever played zvz duels, a majority of it is pure luck... I hope blizzard figures out a way to use less luck, but still leave a little in the game.


saying that ZvZ = luck is retarded
do you think that you can few games vs say, ChoJJa? Hell, would you win a single game if he played safe?

diablo is a game based on luck - first you need luck (or paypal) to get the items, then you need the time to level your chars, then your characters still do random damage, have random chance to block, random chance to hit... - perhaps they could introduce some sort of system, that would allow "standardized" duels - the characters would have the same items, same amount of life, do the same damage - but IM afraid that it would turn into boring zealot vs zealot micro.. unless they introduce spell casting or something like that


zon vs zon


oh well,
diablo2 is probably the worst blizzard game when it comes to quality (some skills e.g. fend are STILL bugged, I think amazon skills were bugged since 1.00)
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
September 22 2008 01:23 GMT
#348
New classes. my guess.
Unholy Paladin, with the skin of a black man (again).
bring back Monk from D1? have Pandarian Brewmaster skills, and Asian identity.

i am curious to see what so anger about it. lol.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 22 2008 02:08 GMT
#349
I'll be disappointed if they don't announce a bard class.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
October 11 2008 04:43 GMT
#350
I'd say that the announcement of the Wizard is worthy of a bump, even if everyone was expecting it.
http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/characters/wizard.xml
Looks pretty good imo. The lore is kinda silly with it being some kind of a rebellious sorceress, but who the fuck cares about lore. She has some pretty cool attacks, so far it looks like the most fun of the 3 classes that have been announced.

It's easier not to.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17060 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-11 04:56:25
October 11 2008 04:51 GMT
#351
She looks Asian.

:O

EDIT: The new meteor looks soooo badass. Too bad they only show it once in the trailer
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
October 11 2008 04:55 GMT
#352
lol at magic missile
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
October 11 2008 05:00 GMT
#353
On October 11 2008 13:51 Empyrean wrote:
She looks Asian.

:O

EDIT: The new meteor looks soooo badass. Too bad they only show it once in the trailer


I totally agree on both counts. Girl looks Asian, meteor is AWESOME.
It's easier not to.
Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-11 05:15:17
October 11 2008 05:12 GMT
#354
From the trailer, it looks like the wizard can use corpse explosion?
So, basically a Sorc and Necro hybrid with Protoss mothership time stop and an added cloning ability.
Looks like I'm going to be a wizard.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17060 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-11 05:30:05
October 11 2008 05:29 GMT
#355
Honestly, Time Stop seems pretty useless if you have enough FCR and can teleport well.

EDIT: Unless you can trap bosses in a Time Stop, get them slowed, then blast them to bits.
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Spinfusor
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia410 Posts
October 11 2008 05:33 GMT
#356
Sigh, just another mish-mash of D2 skills. Hope the next few characters are more inspired.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
October 11 2008 06:34 GMT
#357
Let me use my translating skills:

*Blizzard unveils Wizard*

Translation:

"Hello, we are Wizard and we sell so many games in Asia that we could fill stadiums. But not so many in Africa/The Carribean lol!"
returns upon momentous occasions.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
October 11 2008 06:49 GMT
#358
witchdoctor looks awesome, diablo iii looks great so far but my comp def wont be able to handle it
HEY MEYT
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
October 11 2008 07:10 GMT
#359
imo, wizard blows ass (from playing it just once, will have to try other skill trees) Everything requires 2-4 or fireball to kill, and not a good idea to solo any boss.
her two starting skills are fireball or static waves.
Fireball doesnt splash (yet?) and Static waves are like the same as D2 but with has this casting delay so you dont constantly spam this skill.
I got to pick Thunder Armor, Frost Nova and another passive skill. Frost Nova has a 8 - 10 second cool down, but freezes the enemy within range, like weak damage.

imo, Witch Doc > Barb > Wizard; in term of fun.
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
October 11 2008 07:36 GMT
#360
Wait, Diablo 3 was playable at Blizzcon? I didn't know that!? I wish that I had gone even more now.
It's easier not to.
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
October 11 2008 12:09 GMT
#361
omg, so nice battles.... D3 seems really really good! I really want to try this out.
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
October 11 2008 15:34 GMT
#362
I'm still waiting for them to announce a bard class. ~_~
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
October 11 2008 16:20 GMT
#363
D3 was fucking fun.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
October 11 2008 16:25 GMT
#364
Did anyone else find a "Blizzcon Artifact" while they were playing? I found one and showed it to one of the guys by the computers and he gave me a Diablo III poster signed by all the devs.
Graphics
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 11 2008 16:31 GMT
#365
On October 12 2008 01:25 Sigrun wrote:
Did anyone else find a "Blizzcon Artifact" while they were playing? I found one and showed it to one of the guys by the computers and he gave me a Diablo III poster signed by all the devs.


Blizzard is so fucking awesome.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 11 2008 18:02 GMT
#366
what would a bard do?
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
October 11 2008 18:05 GMT
#367
make music and own
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 11 2008 18:08 GMT
#368
wtf is up with MAGIC MISSILES lol is this like D&D ??? and slow time wtf mothership on a d2 charcter lol - _--
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
October 11 2008 22:21 GMT
#369
The Wizard looks good in my opinion. D3 is going to be awesome.
Super serious.
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
October 11 2008 23:14 GMT
#370
On October 12 2008 01:31 Salv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2008 01:25 Sigrun wrote:
Did anyone else find a "Blizzcon Artifact" while they were playing? I found one and showed it to one of the guys by the computers and he gave me a Diablo III poster signed by all the devs.


Blizzard is so fucking awesome.

Wow, scan it up and put it up here for us to see!
"Eyes in the sky."
Wolverine
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
138 Posts
October 11 2008 23:53 GMT
#371
On October 12 2008 03:02 oneofthem wrote:
What would a bard do?


Hammer and lightning!

www.asterix.co.nz/characters/gauls/cacofonix2.jpg

[image loading]


And teach the village children math.
Wolverine
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
138 Posts
October 11 2008 23:54 GMT
#372
Don't know why the above hammer won't show up..?
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
October 12 2008 06:58 GMT
#373
On October 12 2008 08:14 Aerox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2008 01:31 Salv wrote:
On October 12 2008 01:25 Sigrun wrote:
Did anyone else find a "Blizzcon Artifact" while they were playing? I found one and showed it to one of the guys by the computers and he gave me a Diablo III poster signed by all the devs.


Blizzard is so fucking awesome.

Wow, scan it up and put it up here for us to see!


Here it is:

[image loading]


I asked one of the employees there about the rarity of the item and he told me only a few couple had found it. Lucky me!
Graphics
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
October 12 2008 07:17 GMT
#374
http://flickr.com/photos/70991494@N00/2933588386/

The item says
Soulbound - Cannot be traded
Congratulation! You just found something so awesome it grants you item outside the game! Shwo this item to any Blizzard employee to claim you prize.
Sell Value: Cannot be sold.

baller moment when I found this. I didnt know there were secret prize within the game.
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
October 12 2008 07:30 GMT
#375
On October 12 2008 15:58 Sigrun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2008 08:14 Aerox wrote:
On October 12 2008 01:31 Salv wrote:
On October 12 2008 01:25 Sigrun wrote:
Did anyone else find a "Blizzcon Artifact" while they were playing? I found one and showed it to one of the guys by the computers and he gave me a Diablo III poster signed by all the devs.


Blizzard is so fucking awesome.

Wow, scan it up and put it up here for us to see!


Here it is:

[image loading]


I asked one of the employees there about the rarity of the item and he told me only a few couple had found it. Lucky me!

Damn, I wish I played more D3 now, lol.

Whatever, I actually like my SC2 poster with Savior, Yellow, and Nada signatures better
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 12 2008 08:05 GMT
#376
Holy shit that poster is cool.
Never Knows Best.
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
October 12 2008 12:10 GMT
#377
Awesome! You guys should showcase your Blizzcon gains together and bug the staff to put them up on a special front page news post or something. XD
"Eyes in the sky."
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
October 12 2008 12:21 GMT
#378
On October 12 2008 03:08 alffla wrote:
wtf is up with MAGIC MISSILES lol is this like D&D ??? and slow time wtf mothership on a d2 charcter lol - _--


haha this made me laugh so hard
aka. Samael
Gaetele
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Esper760 Posts
October 12 2008 17:26 GMT
#379
Diablo 3 was hella fun. That's bad.

I'm going to waste so many of my hours on that game again.
aka Ghostclaws
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
October 12 2008 21:52 GMT
#380
So great that there is some new characters in the game. I would love to see Sorcress in action or Assassin, my fav races were Assa/Amazon the best chars !
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
October 12 2008 23:24 GMT
#381
And i really hope that you can have "Skiller" charms like anni or torch. Like before... Bad that they didn't show when u level up or sets ur skills/stats.

I really hope it's like D2LOD, would be alot of fun!
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
April 17 2011 21:23 GMT
#382
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


I'm reviving this thread for 2 reasons:

1. The dude I quote.... WTF. Hahahahahahaha.

2. I have a google search thingy that reports back to me daily about new things that may have popped up about the game. This article came up:
Fired Blizzard tester hands out Diablo 3 spoilers


I'm not going to quote anything, or even spoiler just because I know people will want to read for themselves or won't want to read anything at all. Pretty interesting though.... The dude says his contract said nothing about being able to spill beans, but I find that highly unlikely. I don't see how Blizzard would have a loop hole for a tester to be able to legally tell everyone what is in, and what isn't in the game. Sounds like a hoax to me...
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Zeles
Profile Joined October 2010
United States335 Posts
April 17 2011 21:30 GMT
#383
On April 18 2011 06:23 hoby2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


I'm reviving this thread for 2 reasons:

1. The dude I quote.... WTF. Hahahahahahaha.

2. I have a google search thingy that reports back to me daily about new things that may have popped up about the game. This article came up:
Fired Blizzard tester hands out Diablo 3 spoilers


I'm not going to quote anything, or even spoiler just because I know people will want to read for themselves or won't want to read anything at all. Pretty interesting though.... The dude says his contract said nothing about being able to spill beans, but I find that highly unlikely. I don't see how Blizzard would have a loop hole for a tester to be able to legally tell everyone what is in, and what isn't in the game. Sounds like a hoax to me...


its definitely fake

100% certain
Luiwtf
Profile Joined January 2011
England217 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 21:32:58
April 17 2011 21:32 GMT
#384
On April 18 2011 06:23 hoby2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


I'm reviving this thread for 2 reasons:

1. The dude I quote.... WTF. Hahahahahahaha.

2. I have a google search thingy that reports back to me daily about new things that may have popped up about the game. This article came up:
Fired Blizzard tester hands out Diablo 3 spoilers


I'm not going to quote anything, or even spoiler just because I know people will want to read for themselves or won't want to read anything at all. Pretty interesting though.... The dude says his contract said nothing about being able to spill beans, but I find that highly unlikely. I don't see how Blizzard would have a loop hole for a tester to be able to legally tell everyone what is in, and what isn't in the game. Sounds like a hoax to me...


Not clicking the link, don't want spoilers :D.

He probably didn't understand all those long words in the NDA, so thinks he can say what he wants about it :p. If people were actually free to talk about it I'd imagine spoilers would be everywhere. Either that or it's fake .
SoundProof
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden99 Posts
April 17 2011 21:36 GMT
#385
On April 18 2011 06:23 hoby2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


I'm reviving this thread for 2 reasons:

1. The dude I quote.... WTF. Hahahahahahaha.

2. I have a google search thingy that reports back to me daily about new things that may have popped up about the game. This article came up:
Fired Blizzard tester hands out Diablo 3 spoilers


I'm not going to quote anything, or even spoiler just because I know people will want to read for themselves or won't want to read anything at all. Pretty interesting though.... The dude says his contract said nothing about being able to spill beans, but I find that highly unlikely. I don't see how Blizzard would have a loop hole for a tester to be able to legally tell everyone what is in, and what isn't in the game. Sounds like a hoax to me...


Cites 4chan as the source... really?
"Jag är för stark helt enkelt"
maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
April 17 2011 21:39 GMT
#386
On April 18 2011 06:23 hoby2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


I'm reviving this thread for 2 reasons:

1. The dude I quote.... WTF. Hahahahahahaha.

2. I have a google search thingy that reports back to me daily about new things that may have popped up about the game. This article came up:
Fired Blizzard tester hands out Diablo 3 spoilers


I'm not going to quote anything, or even spoiler just because I know people will want to read for themselves or won't want to read anything at all. Pretty interesting though.... The dude says his contract said nothing about being able to spill beans, but I find that highly unlikely. I don't see how Blizzard would have a loop hole for a tester to be able to legally tell everyone what is in, and what isn't in the game. Sounds like a hoax to me...


This guy is a cunt

I can see why they fired him. Pessimistic asshole
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
April 17 2011 21:41 GMT
#387
On April 18 2011 06:23 hoby2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


I'm reviving this thread for 2 reasons:

1. The dude I quote.... WTF. Hahahahahahaha.

2. I have a google search thingy that reports back to me daily about new things that may have popped up about the game. This article came up:
Fired Blizzard tester hands out Diablo 3 spoilers


I'm not going to quote anything, or even spoiler just because I know people will want to read for themselves or won't want to read anything at all. Pretty interesting though.... The dude says his contract said nothing about being able to spill beans, but I find that highly unlikely. I don't see how Blizzard would have a loop hole for a tester to be able to legally tell everyone what is in, and what isn't in the game. Sounds like a hoax to me...


yea a lot of his answers werent very specific or seemed like "he HAD to of had worked there to answer that question in that way..."

like he would just say "oh class X is imba right now.." which means nothing since presumably balance is always changing in development
or "the boss fights sucked because they were really scripted" which was a retarded answer because all boss fights in all games are pretty scripted nowadays.

i think he's a fake
Free Palestine
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
April 17 2011 21:45 GMT
#388
On April 18 2011 06:36 SoundProof wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 06:23 hoby2000 wrote:
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


I'm reviving this thread for 2 reasons:

1. The dude I quote.... WTF. Hahahahahahaha.

2. I have a google search thingy that reports back to me daily about new things that may have popped up about the game. This article came up:
Fired Blizzard tester hands out Diablo 3 spoilers


I'm not going to quote anything, or even spoiler just because I know people will want to read for themselves or won't want to read anything at all. Pretty interesting though.... The dude says his contract said nothing about being able to spill beans, but I find that highly unlikely. I don't see how Blizzard would have a loop hole for a tester to be able to legally tell everyone what is in, and what isn't in the game. Sounds like a hoax to me...


Cites 4chan as the source... really?


The dude posted it all on 4chan... which makes the whole situation even more fishy. But he has some interesting details about the game's story. I guess we'll see how it all pans out come release time.

I honestly thought the dude I quoted was more interesting than that article... I mean, come on. Coincidence or not... still fucking weird.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Sulli
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada236 Posts
April 17 2011 21:46 GMT
#389
Yeah this guy is full of shit and he has the mind of a 13 year old.

who has the most say in art direction on the team?
the most say is always from the team that makes the interface with the stock holders

Come on now. The only way he could describe the game was saying how boring it was and making non-specific comparisons to Torchlight. Even if he was real, he wouldn't have been of any value to Blizzard testing the game.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 17 2011 21:57 GMT
#390
Not clicking on it! Dont want to have my image of the perfect game shattered after waiting all this time!!
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Mahs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands171 Posts
April 17 2011 22:01 GMT
#391
I stopped reading the Q&A right at the start where he says they'll be porting the game to consoles. How obvious is he making it.
I'll be in my bunk.
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1482 Posts
April 17 2011 22:15 GMT
#392
Diablo1 and Diablo2 was like going from Doom to Deus Ex, or Baldurs Gate to Baldurs Gate2.
Diablo 3 seems like a console game for me so far. Diablo 2, i remmber the first time i played it. And i found out my necromancer in single player trying to beat andariel. Was Epic, after years, i still ike to use my now godlike charaters for fun.

I really doubt Diablo3 will get su much improvement. Since WoW and Their unification with EA, a lot of stuff is starting to look "un-blizzard" like. Personally i dont like it, but they are getting more sales like this so i really dont think they care for a minority like me.

aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
April 17 2011 22:20 GMT
#393
All he's saying is the stuff he could come up with through the trailers and already released gameplay videos.

Troll is OK troll.
Starcraft is a mix between chess, poker and a Michael Bay movie.
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
April 17 2011 22:24 GMT
#394
On April 18 2011 07:01 switchdev wrote:
I stopped reading the Q&A right at the start where he says they'll be porting the game to consoles. How obvious is he making it.


Sadly I see this as a possibility if Activision wants to expand the D3 market.
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
April 17 2011 22:28 GMT
#395
Can't believe i wasted my time reading first half of that article. He's either a nerd with no friends who lives in his mother's basement trying to becom eFamous, or he actually did get fired by Blizzard, and is just a disgruntled employee. Either way, I don't really consider anything there spoilers (mind you, I only read the first third of the article, stopped where he said fuck you to the interviewee, and the interview continues for some reason...) but ya, worthless.
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sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 22:34:30
April 17 2011 22:33 GMT
#396
On April 18 2011 06:23 hoby2000 wrote:

2. I have a google search thingy that reports back to me daily about new things that may have popped up about the game. This article came up:
Fired Blizzard tester hands out Diablo 3 spoilers



The dude is a fake, just read the Titan part, he's trying too hard to troll.


On April 18 2011 07:15 iloveav wrote:
Diablo1 and Diablo2 was like going from Doom to Deus Ex, or Baldurs Gate to Baldurs Gate2.
Diablo 3 seems like a console game for me so far. Diablo 2, i remmber the first time i played it. And i found out my necromancer in single player trying to beat andariel. Was Epic, after years, i still ike to use my now godlike charaters for fun.

I really doubt Diablo3 will get su much improvement. Since WoW and Their unification with EA, a lot of stuff is starting to look "un-blizzard" like. Personally i dont like it, but they are getting more sales like this so i really dont think they care for a minority like me.



Diablo 3 looks like a Diablo, seems to play like a Diablo; if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck than it's...

Everything revealed at this point shows improvement in gameplay, the classes, while not the old ones, sound like a blast. You're being too negative, I'm sure you'll have as much fun with the Witch Doctor as you had with the Necromancer.

And yes, there is a console port planned AFTER release, no worries. Not to mention that most Blizz games are on consoles.

+ Show Spoiler +
The merge was with Activision and they are operating independently.
@
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
April 17 2011 22:37 GMT
#397
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !

wow, you are so right sir. There is the demon hunter now. How did you guess? Is Blizzard so obvious?

TheKanAry
Profile Joined August 2010
United States149 Posts
April 17 2011 22:43 GMT
#398
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !



.....Does this guy at least win a T-shirt?
"I called blizzards secret fifth class and all i got was this lousy T-shirt."?
those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
DKo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States187 Posts
April 17 2011 22:46 GMT
#399
As skeptical as I am of that spoilers guy's post, I wish I didn't read it
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
April 17 2011 22:52 GMT
#400
That "leak" seems pretty fake. The main reason being that he never goes in-depth towards any of his complaints. How does D3 play like Torchlight? How does it not play like D2? How does the level design suck? It's also very unlikely that a multi-billion dollar company that is well-known for keeping secrets would have such an obvious "we can't touch you if we fire you" loophole.

Everything else is just knowledge most people could guess from what Blizzard has released so far. Blizzard has already hinted that they are considering consoles. They have also hinted that their new MMO is going to be heavy on social/community building. And anyone who has read a Blizzard story in their life could guess that Tyreal might be corrupted since Blizzard is obsessed with corruption stories.

Not at all convinced by that.
SC Trickster
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark100 Posts
April 17 2011 22:56 GMT
#401
On April 18 2011 07:15 iloveav wrote:
I really doubt Diablo3 will get su much improvement. Since WoW and Their unification with EA, a lot of stuff is starting to look "un-blizzard" like. Personally i dont like it, but they are getting more sales like this so i really dont think they care for a minority like me.



I believe you mean Activision.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
April 17 2011 23:25 GMT
#402
On April 18 2011 07:28 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Can't believe i wasted my time reading first half of that article. He's either a nerd with no friends who lives in his mother's basement trying to becom eFamous, or he actually did get fired by Blizzard, and is just a disgruntled employee. Either way, I don't really consider anything there spoilers (mind you, I only read the first third of the article, stopped where he said fuck you to the interviewee, and the interview continues for some reason...) but ya, worthless.


So you know there is no interviewer, they're questions asked by multiple people.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
RoarMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada745 Posts
April 17 2011 23:37 GMT
#403
On April 18 2011 07:28 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Can't believe i wasted my time reading first half of that article. He's either a nerd with no friends who lives in his mother's basement trying to becom eFamous, or he actually did get fired by Blizzard, and is just a disgruntled employee. Either way, I don't really consider anything there spoilers (mind you, I only read the first third of the article, stopped where he said fuck you to the interviewee, and the interview continues for some reason...) but ya, worthless.

We shouldn't hate on the man for dissing D3, he's obviously disgruntled and going to be biased lol.

It'll be interesting to see if this isn't just senseless rambling.

I mean I can sort of understand what he means by the game feels more like Torchlight than D2. If you've ever played these games you'd understand that Torchlight's atmosphere is vastly different to D2's. D2 has a very open feeling with levels being massive while Torchlight's levels feel like they're only as big as they need to be.

From watching gameplay of D3 it seems a lot slower paced and the levels seem to be more narrative as in Torchlight.
All the pros got dat Ichie.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
April 17 2011 23:55 GMT
#404
Sounds like a wownerd who will never be satisfied with computer games ever.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
April 17 2011 23:58 GMT
#405
On April 18 2011 07:15 iloveav wrote:
Diablo1 and Diablo2 was like going from Doom to Deus Ex, or Baldurs Gate to Baldurs Gate2.
Diablo 3 seems like a console game for me so far.

That's one of the most uninformed comparison i have ever read. The difference between Doom and Deus Ex is so huge that people still wonder today if they are of the same genre. You are comparing a primitive shooter with the apex of video gaming. Ridiculous.
On the other hand D1 and D2 are both hack and slash with a different engine but working the same way and still in 3D iso.

So what are the differences ? More items ? More monsters ? More levels ? This is not even 1% of the difference between the first shooters and Deus Ex. It is merely cosmetic lol.


BG and BG2 are pretty much the same so i will give you that. I mean for sure i can find tons of small differences and details but overall it is the same genre and almost the same engine.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 18 2011 00:09 GMT
#406
The leak doesn't seem that fake to me, but it does seem like fake or not it doesn't matter. I'll form an opinion of the game after I actually play it...

it's quite a while from release still anyways.
jmols
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand41 Posts
April 18 2011 00:38 GMT
#407
complaining about boring bosses but saying he wants it to be more like D2?
dont get me wrong i love my D2 and still play,
but seriously, the bosses are the most boring part.
They all have maybe 2-3 different attacks, the only real difference being what type of damage they deal.
He's either an idiot and you can take from this that the game is great and hes jsut dumb, or hes trolling.
see you space cowboy...
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
April 18 2011 01:01 GMT
#408
I must say i call fake on that shit, there was no details except for maybe some story.
+ Show Spoiler +
I think most people knew/think Corrupted Tyreal would be last boss


No way D3 is gunna fail, its gunna be the best game after D2 made sofar!
Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
April 18 2011 01:21 GMT
#409
Diablo 3 will have plenty of new features;

- Traits and abilities are now seperate (Traits, are passive bonus, Abilities are your skills)
- Runes now modify your spell significantly, adding a huge amount of diversity (Bashiok said there was about 550 skill and variations in the game)
- Crafting is a new feature in Diablo 3

Some things are changing:
- Ui is different
- Drops are individual
- Charms are now placed in an inventory trinket instead of the main inventory
- The game is no longer balanced around town portals and potions

Otherwise, there's all the other stuff you can expect from a newer game; updated graphics, plenty of items, new story and acts, new classes, new skills, new foes and bosses. This is what I know so far. Blizzard also acquired a lot of experience on boss fight with World of Warcraft. The raid boss in WoW are impressively complex and if they can bring that experience into Diablo, then we should expect some challenging encounters.
This road isn't leading anywhere...
Zyferous
Profile Joined September 2010
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 01:54:20
April 18 2011 01:49 GMT
#410
I remember reading somewhere that instead of a horadric cube, you get some other cube that breaks down random items you find into crafting components. If that's true then packrats (like myself) can finally rejoice that those piles and piles of worthless "cracked" armor can finally be of use!

Reusable socketable items also sounds really baller.

Also, I'm excited for D3 coming with more options to customize your characters appearance. I remember in D2 where your character's appearance was limited to a few looks depending on the level of your gear and the color of the gems you socket in them.

Since I'm not much of a hardcore D2 player, I don't think there would be anything that would disappoint me.
Jaedong forever.
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
April 18 2011 02:00 GMT
#411
I'll buy the game the very day it is released, regardless of critics. The SC2 campaign alone was worth paying 60$ for it -_-.
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
April 18 2011 15:34 GMT
#412
I like the idea of individual drops... so that everything doesn't turn into a huge grabfest whenever you pop Diablo in a MF run. is it confirmed or not that skills can be remapped? it would be pretty awesome to make a new character build without having to powerlevel every time through cows as it was with D2, although i'm sure some sort of limitation has to be put on how many times it could be done.

what does "game no longer balanced around portals and potions" mean?
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
April 18 2011 15:37 GMT
#413
On April 18 2011 07:01 switchdev wrote:
I stopped reading the Q&A right at the start where he says they'll be porting the game to consoles. How obvious is he making it.


um, there's possible truth to that

http://www.pcworld.com/article/220075/diablo_iii_console_development_picks_up_speed.html
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
April 18 2011 15:48 GMT
#414
On April 19 2011 00:34 ballasdontcry wrote:
what does "game no longer balanced around portals and potions" mean?

In D2 you could do town portal even in boss fight, go to town, heal, repair, whatever, return, do some damage, return to town and so on and so on. It will no longer be possible.
And there were no cooldowns on potions, you could spam them like crazy - in D3 there will be CDs and you will heal mainly by health globes.
Just another gold Protoss...
Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
April 18 2011 15:55 GMT
#415
Cant wait for this I just hope they dont rush it with Activision pressuring them!
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
Trollish
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada8 Posts
April 18 2011 15:56 GMT
#416
LMAO the source is 4chan you guys are foolish
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
April 18 2011 17:01 GMT
#417
“there’s nothing in my contract that says I can’t reveal anything AFTER I’m fired.”


Immediate doubt casted there. No self-respecting business in operation today misses that little clause in the contract.
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1482 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 17:02:28
April 18 2011 17:01 GMT
#418
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/711923/blizzard-seriously-considering-diablo-3-on-console/

Nuf said...

Oh lol, yeah activision :D.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1482 Posts
April 18 2011 17:05 GMT
#419
On April 18 2011 08:58 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 07:15 iloveav wrote:
Diablo1 and Diablo2 was like going from Doom to Deus Ex, or Baldurs Gate to Baldurs Gate2.
Diablo 3 seems like a console game for me so far.

That's one of the most uninformed comparison i have ever read. The difference between Doom and Deus Ex is so huge that people still wonder today if they are of the same genre. You are comparing a primitive shooter with the apex of video gaming. Ridiculous.
On the other hand D1 and D2 are both hack and slash with a different engine but working the same way and still in 3D iso.

So what are the differences ? More items ? More monsters ? More levels ? This is not even 1% of the difference between the first shooters and Deus Ex. It is merely cosmetic lol.


BG and BG2 are pretty much the same so i will give you that. I mean for sure i can find tons of small differences and details but overall it is the same genre and almost the same engine.


In diablo 1, u had 1 atack mode and some spells, where as in diablo 2 u had skills, runewords, charms, auras... sure there is a bigger jump from doom to deus ex, but the idea is the same: get something that works, and add new good stuff to make the game more interesting.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 17:42:31
April 18 2011 17:41 GMT
#420
On April 19 2011 02:01 iloveav wrote:
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/711923/blizzard-seriously-considering-diablo-3-on-console/

Nuf said...

Oh lol, yeah activision :D.


Makes sense to me. That kind of gameplay would translate very well to consoles since its just running around in isometric view, pointing in a direction and throwing various spells and abilities around the place. Out of all of the Blizzard titles is the one that makes the most sense to have a console port. The hardest part to implement (short of possibly redesigning a chunk of the underlying engine) would be the item interface with respect to the console controller - how do you pick up items? How do you organize them? How do you quickly and easily equip/compare them? Easy to do with the mouse. Not so easy with a controller.

Whatever they do with it, its still going to be awesome. My experience playing the single player and arena matches at Blizzcon last year is simply incomparable to anything else on the market today. They took the part I hated most about WoW's PvP (arena) and made it a blast.
Albrithe
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada187 Posts
April 18 2011 17:46 GMT
#421
On April 18 2011 11:00 AeroGear wrote:
I'll buy the game the very day it is released, regardless of critics. The SC2 campaign alone was worth paying 60$ for it -_-.

I dunno if the face is supposed to indicate sarcasm or anything, but I agree with this post. I'd expect Diablo 3 to be worth my cash regardless of what critics are saying. If I'm disappointed, then I guess that's tough shit on me for being a fan boy.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 17:53:19
April 18 2011 17:53 GMT
#422
may conference call they are supposed to announce some "exciting news about the beta release"

deja vu anyone?

this time bnet 2.0 is developed at least
koreanfuture
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 18:09:43
April 18 2011 18:09 GMT
#423
Blizzard will announce the beta in the May 5th Conference call, without a doubt.
If they don't for some odd reason, I'm quiting Blizzard games.
I've quit SC2 for long time now.

Btw, check out www.diablofans.com if you are not up to date with diablo news.
Give it a chance, these guys work hard, and probably will create the second "Beta-booming" that teamliquid was fortunate to have received from us during the beta stages of SC2.

GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
April 18 2011 18:13 GMT
#424
On April 19 2011 03:09 koreanfuture wrote:
Blizzard will announce the beta in the May 5th Conference call, without a doubt.


I'd hope so, but it's much more likely that they will just say it will be "this summer" imo

but if they do announce it to start that day I will go crazy =D
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 18:22:57
April 18 2011 18:20 GMT
#425
On April 19 2011 02:41 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 02:01 iloveav wrote:
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/711923/blizzard-seriously-considering-diablo-3-on-console/

Nuf said...

Oh lol, yeah activision :D.


Makes sense to me. That kind of gameplay would translate very well to consoles since its just running around in isometric view, pointing in a direction and throwing various spells and abilities around the place. Out of all of the Blizzard titles is the one that makes the most sense to have a console port. The hardest part to implement (short of possibly redesigning a chunk of the underlying engine) would be the item interface with respect to the console controller - how do you pick up items? How do you organize them? How do you quickly and easily equip/compare them? Easy to do with the mouse. Not so easy with a controller.

Whatever they do with it, its still going to be awesome. My experience playing the single player and arena matches at Blizzcon last year is simply incomparable to anything else on the market today. They took the part I hated most about WoW's PvP (arena) and made it a blast.


some gameplay can be translated to console

other gameplay can not

for instance, I have no idea how Blizzard is going to implement teleporting on a console.

it'll be quickly apparent if Blizzard makes some gameplay changes for the sake of making the game more palatable for the controller
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koreanfuture
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada5 Posts
April 18 2011 18:33 GMT
#426
Diablo 3 should just stay for PC only....
So much trouble transitioning into Xbox360. According to the timelline Blizzard works, this might take over 5 years.
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
April 18 2011 19:06 GMT
#427
On April 19 2011 03:33 koreanfuture wrote:
Diablo 3 should just stay for PC only....
So much trouble transitioning into Xbox360. According to the timelline Blizzard works, this might take over 5 years.

They stated, PC version is their main priority. It will NOT slow down PC version development process. Chill, bro
Just another gold Protoss...
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 18 2011 19:09 GMT
#428
Great now I won't stop thinking about diablo 3 and beta announcments until that conference call is wrapped up.


i need d3. :X
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caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
April 18 2011 19:25 GMT
#429
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


I find that quoteworthy.
koreanfuture
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada5 Posts
April 19 2011 14:08 GMT
#430
Is anyone else excited for Diablo 3 just as they were with when SC2 was on the horizon?
I feel like hype for Diablo 3 is much bigger than SC2 this time. And Beta is not even out yet.
Although I enjoyed playing starcraft broodwar very much, I find myself struggling to like Starcraft 2.
I'll prob switch to Diablo 3 once its released, anyone else going to play?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
April 19 2011 16:03 GMT
#431
On April 19 2011 04:25 caruso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


I find that quoteworthy.

sarcasm always has a bit of truth to it.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
April 19 2011 16:04 GMT
#432
On April 19 2011 23:08 koreanfuture wrote:

I'll prob switch to Diablo 3 once its released, anyone else going to play?


No, you are the only person.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
stk01001
Profile Joined September 2007
United States786 Posts
April 19 2011 16:10 GMT
#433
On April 19 2011 23:08 koreanfuture wrote:
Is anyone else excited for Diablo 3 just as they were with when SC2 was on the horizon?
I feel like hype for Diablo 3 is much bigger than SC2 this time. And Beta is not even out yet.
Although I enjoyed playing starcraft broodwar very much, I find myself struggling to like Starcraft 2.
I'll prob switch to Diablo 3 once its released, anyone else going to play?


I plan on playing both games...
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Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 16:37:00
April 19 2011 16:15 GMT
#434
On April 19 2011 04:06 Overpowered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 03:33 koreanfuture wrote:
Diablo 3 should just stay for PC only....
So much trouble transitioning into Xbox360. According to the timelline Blizzard works, this might take over 5 years.

They stated, PC version is their main priority. It will NOT slow down PC version development process. Chill, bro


That sounds like a promise, and Blizzard don't make promises. I have no doubt it'll delay the release. After all, they've only got so many resources available and there's always some unexpected hiccup that ruins the party when it comes to software development. Question is if the delay is even noticeable or not. They haven't even announced a specific release date, yet.

On April 19 2011 03:20 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 02:41 Bibdy wrote:
On April 19 2011 02:01 iloveav wrote:
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/711923/blizzard-seriously-considering-diablo-3-on-console/

Nuf said...

Oh lol, yeah activision :D.


Makes sense to me. That kind of gameplay would translate very well to consoles since its just running around in isometric view, pointing in a direction and throwing various spells and abilities around the place. Out of all of the Blizzard titles is the one that makes the most sense to have a console port. The hardest part to implement (short of possibly redesigning a chunk of the underlying engine) would be the item interface with respect to the console controller - how do you pick up items? How do you organize them? How do you quickly and easily equip/compare them? Easy to do with the mouse. Not so easy with a controller.

Whatever they do with it, its still going to be awesome. My experience playing the single player and arena matches at Blizzcon last year is simply incomparable to anything else on the market today. They took the part I hated most about WoW's PvP (arena) and made it a blast.


some gameplay can be translated to console

other gameplay can not

for instance, I have no idea how Blizzard is going to implement teleporting on a console.

it'll be quickly apparent if Blizzard makes some gameplay changes for the sake of making the game more palatable for the controller


That's assuming Teleport is even intended to function like the Diablo 2 version. They may intentionally change it to no longer pass through walls, which would make a console version much easier to implement since you could just point in a direction, whack teleport, and it would either go max distance or collide with the first wall it hits. Of course, if that does end up being the design process, I fully expect accusations of dumbing the game down for consoles. Its inevitable, because the hardcore fans will be actively looking for things to complain about. Its what they do.

Although, having said that the design as of Blizzcon 2010 was that she could teleport through walls (at about 4:00):



Though, I'm pretty sure it has a fairly short max range (looking at various points in that movie, the one on the Diablo 3 website, and my own recollection of using it at Blizzcon), so they could just assume every attempt to Teleport on console wants to go max range - which isn't a long stretch of the imagination, seeing as how its an escape/fast travel spell and all.

The gameplay won't be exactly the same, sure. For instance, the Guardian is a spell that might not work so great on consoles, since its a turret and you'll often want to place it on the edge of a corner. The Barbarian leaping OVER a pack of mobs, rather than into the middle of them. Things like that. But, in the end, even if the gameplay is different, doesn't mean they can't make it good.
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
April 19 2011 16:35 GMT
#435
I wasn't so hyped about this game for a while.. but something clicked inside me when I heard about the May conference call. I'm suddenly anxious to play this game. A couple weeks ago I started playing D2 again and was surprised at how addicting it still was. Played 4 hours non stop. I fear the same thing will happen with D3.

What's worse is Diablo is the type of game where you can relax with after a strenuous session on SC2. So the combo can potentially be disasterous for my productivity; Sc2 for a couple hours, rest with Diablo3 for another couple hours, then back to Sc2. Cycle and repeat.

I'm doomed.
King takes Queen
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
April 19 2011 16:38 GMT
#436
I haven't been keeping up with their releases that much, but I'm just wondering, have they mentioned that they're going to implement fcr, fhr, ias, faster r/w, and things like that? From all of the demo videos, that's my biggest concern. Teleport looks slow as fuck, as does the game as a whole. High level D2 was all about hitting that next breakpoint for fhr or fcr (200 fcr fire sorc ftw), and I'm worried they're going to take that out.
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dave333
Profile Joined August 2010
United States915 Posts
April 19 2011 16:46 GMT
#437
Diablo seriously kills me. It's so addictive its not even funny. Especially LoD.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
April 19 2011 16:50 GMT
#438
I spent a lot more time playing D1 than LoD. as long as you had legit people to play with, it was such an awesome game... unlike D2 though, the challenge wasn't in treasure hunting, but in doing crazy shit like killing hell diablo at the min level or playing a mage without using gear at all

you could get all the gear on normal difficulty, so that wasn't hard. not only that, but the best items were in the shops for the most part.
I drop suckas like Plinko
Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
April 19 2011 18:19 GMT
#439
I watched the "class trailer" for Demon Hunters and it honestly had some of the worst acting I've ever seen from a video game. Just...lame, lame, lame.

But I'm still buying it no matter what.
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
Autofire2
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Pakistan290 Posts
April 19 2011 19:56 GMT
#440
I don't think the console version is a good idea, if I remember the mechanics correctly. There were a few diablo esque clones (including one..Baldurs gate type knockoff?) that were well rated but the experience, at least for me, was made immeasurably shallow in the translation. Not a fan.

But hey, if it doesn't shave time or quality off the PC version, whatever floats their boat
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
April 21 2011 20:46 GMT
#441
On April 20 2011 04:56 Autofire2 wrote:
I don't think the console version is a good idea, if I remember the mechanics correctly. There were a few diablo esque clones (including one..Baldurs gate type knockoff?) that were well rated but the experience, at least for me, was made immeasurably shallow in the translation. Not a fan.

But hey, if it doesn't shave time or quality off the PC version, whatever floats their boat


That's comparing apples and oranges. The console versions of Baldur's Gate were complete offshoots from the original game(s), which wer computerified RPG versions of a classic pen & paper AD&D story. The console versions were a more arcadey, hack & slash, diablo-esque cash-in. Diablo is already an arcadey, hack & slashfest, so the console port would end up being very similar.
Rain.cz
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic227 Posts
April 21 2011 21:20 GMT
#442
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !

hahahaha
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trainRiderJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States615 Posts
April 21 2011 21:22 GMT
#443
On April 22 2011 06:20 Rain.cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !

hahahaha

Well done
JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
April 22 2011 01:46 GMT
#444
They will probably add a Blademaster in the expansion then.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
April 22 2011 05:36 GMT
#445
On April 22 2011 06:22 trainRiderJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 06:20 Rain.cz wrote:
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !

hahahaha

Well done


Haha for the life of me i couldn't understand why people thought that lame post was amusing. Then i went and looked at the D3 character classes just now...
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
April 22 2011 05:42 GMT
#446
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


Wow I thought this was edited at first but it wasn't, seeing as demon hunters were revealed much after this post.

HOW DID YOU KNOW?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 22 2011 05:44 GMT
#447
On April 22 2011 14:36 DannyJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 06:22 trainRiderJ wrote:
On April 22 2011 06:20 Rain.cz wrote:
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !

hahahaha

Well done


Haha for the life of me i couldn't understand why people thought that lame post was amusing. Then i went and looked at the D3 character classes just now...


Oh god that's amazing lol!
New Zealander
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
New Zealand70 Posts
April 22 2011 05:53 GMT
#448
ROFL... Oh man...
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
April 22 2011 05:56 GMT
#449
LOL what a prophet
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Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
April 22 2011 05:58 GMT
#450
On April 22 2011 14:44 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 14:36 DannyJ wrote:
On April 22 2011 06:22 trainRiderJ wrote:
On April 22 2011 06:20 Rain.cz wrote:
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !

hahahaha

Well done


Haha for the life of me i couldn't understand why people thought that lame post was amusing. Then i went and looked at the D3 character classes just now...


Oh god that's amazing lol!


that's incredible lol.
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Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
April 22 2011 06:31 GMT
#451
That's one hell of a baberuth right there.
Tahts halo dont worry
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 10:11:25
April 23 2011 10:10 GMT
#452
wow.. i didnt check diablo 3 news for 5 months lol, i guess everything i know changed. Still, i know all characters... MONK FIGHTING

sry if this exist, maybe add in OP?
Poll: Which Class are you going to play?

Wizard (23)
 
21%

Monk (21)
 
19%

Barbarian (20)
 
18%

Demon Hunter (17)
 
15%

Witch Doctor (15)
 
14%

Gonna check all first, dunno atm (15)
 
14%

111 total votes

Your vote: Which Class are you going to play?

(Vote): Barbarian
(Vote): Wizard
(Vote): Witch Doctor
(Vote): Monk
(Vote): Demon Hunter
(Vote): Gonna check all first, dunno atm



for discussion : Why that class?

for me : i am definetly going to check all classes for sure, but monk is likely be #1 , because of his unique style and handsomeness
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9580 Posts
April 23 2011 10:15 GMT
#453
I'll prolly start off with a witch doc. Summoners seem to be the easiest class to learn the ropes with.
I also fully expect the monk to be the least played class, and the wizard the most played.

I'll probably main as a witch doc also if there wont be any "Baal runs" or magic find.
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Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
April 23 2011 10:25 GMT
#454
Probably going to start with a Witch Doctor. I am going to play i casually with some friends and just like to goof around. From the stuff that I have seen so far, with the Witch Doctor you can do the most fun stuff (Giant frogs anyone?).

Other than that I am going to play a melee character for the more "Hardcore" play. What melee class that is going to be I don't know yet. Going to try them all out eventually.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19138 Posts
April 23 2011 10:27 GMT
#455
Deffo a Wizard for me .
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dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
April 23 2011 10:30 GMT
#456
Gonna play a witch doc :D
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Mangemongen
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden125 Posts
April 23 2011 10:31 GMT
#457
I like where this is going with me picking the 6% monk.
Fredoq
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden206 Posts
April 23 2011 10:33 GMT
#458
Probably the Barb or the Demon Hunter! Man I sooo want to play D3!!! It looks so damn good :D!!!
Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
April 23 2011 10:34 GMT
#459
Barb all the way baby
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Inkblood
Profile Joined February 2010
United States463 Posts
April 23 2011 10:58 GMT
#460
Picked barbarian, because that was my main class in Diablo 2 and from what I've heard it's actually the same character from that game. So I just won't be able to resist picking him. After that, I'm playing a monk without a question. Can't wait!
nexitustl1
Profile Joined December 2010
156 Posts
April 23 2011 11:05 GMT
#461
definitely a witch doctor like the necromancer i feel it will have strong solo capability in the short and long term of the games difficulty
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
April 23 2011 11:12 GMT
#462
I think i'll play as a witch doctor, cause I started playing as a necro back when I played d2( I bone speared my way to victory and boasted to my barbarian friends :p) .I would also love to try the wizard.

Are they doing something something stupid like locking the number of characters you can create?
Skoe420
Profile Joined July 2010
United States44 Posts
April 23 2011 11:18 GMT
#463
On June 28 2008 23:36 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 22:26 BlackStar wrote:
3d, no innovation to gameplay. meh

Maybe you're not familiar with the Diablo franchise.

Diablo 1/2 are awful, user unfriendly linear games with a community full of scammers, cheaters and assholes, and the entire thing combines to be incredibly fun and addictive.

This is like complaining that there's not enough wholesome/kid-friendly stuff to do at a dog racing track.


Quit trolling you know nothing about d1 or 2 i can tell they were awesome and d3 is going to be the shit the only reason d2 started getting full of scammers and dumb bots is because they would rather waste time on making 414830498 WoW games instead of doing something worth while WoW has always been stupid and always will be its just their cash cow that people for some reason pay to play.
frontline
Profile Joined July 2010
United States57 Posts
April 23 2011 12:23 GMT
#464
Haven't played D2 since like 05 :/ had so much fun but only hit lvl 52 on a Sorceress, pretty hyped for D3 !
fellcrow
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States288 Posts
April 23 2011 12:39 GMT
#465
Have to point this out, and not off-topic but semi random. Diablo characters are just rip offs from characters from the Warhammer universe. I can't blame them. Warhammer has AWESOME stuff. And starcraft was originally made to be a warhammer based game, but games workshop made a blunder. ANYWAYS. The demon hunter class is just a total rip off. Just a little amusing to me. Still love it though :D haha
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
April 23 2011 13:01 GMT
#466
On April 23 2011 20:18 Skoe420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 23:36 Jibba wrote:
On June 28 2008 22:26 BlackStar wrote:
3d, no innovation to gameplay. meh

Maybe you're not familiar with the Diablo franchise.

Diablo 1/2 are awful, user unfriendly linear games with a community full of scammers, cheaters and assholes, and the entire thing combines to be incredibly fun and addictive.

This is like complaining that there's not enough wholesome/kid-friendly stuff to do at a dog racing track.


Quit trolling you know nothing about d1 or 2 i can tell they were awesome and d3 is going to be the shit the only reason d2 started getting full of scammers and dumb bots is because they would rather waste time on making 414830498 WoW games instead of doing something worth while WoW has always been stupid and always will be its just their cash cow that people for some reason pay to play.

He said diablo 1 and 2 are very fun. Sort of like oblivion, terrible game that I "wasted" 15< hours playing.
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Skoe420
Profile Joined July 2010
United States44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 21:24:13
April 23 2011 21:21 GMT
#467
On April 23 2011 22:01 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 20:18 Skoe420 wrote:
On June 28 2008 23:36 Jibba wrote:
On June 28 2008 22:26 BlackStar wrote:
3d, no innovation to gameplay. meh

Maybe you're not familiar with the Diablo franchise.

Diablo 1/2 are awful, user unfriendly linear games with a community full of scammers, cheaters and assholes, and the entire thing combines to be incredibly fun and addictive.

This is like complaining that there's not enough wholesome/kid-friendly stuff to do at a dog racing track.


Quit trolling you know nothing about d1 or 2 i can tell they were awesome and d3 is going to be the shit the only reason d2 started getting full of scammers and dumb bots is because they would rather waste time on making 414830498 WoW games instead of doing something worth while WoW has always been stupid and always will be its just their cash cow that people for some reason pay to play.

He said diablo 1 and 2 are very fun. Sort of like oblivion, terrible game that I "wasted" 15< hours playing.


ummm no he didnt he said they were awful i played them all the time when i was a lot younger i mean you have to put into account how old the games are now diablo 1 was released in 96 diablo 2 was released in 2000 dont remember if that was the x pac or not.

Warhammer 40k was released in like 2005 i think that was the first one so who ever said Diablo was a rip off it WAY off....And you cant try to compare something that was a board game to a real game thats like saying boulders gate was a rip off of DnD thats just bull because its all lore elves and dwarfs and all that crap.
Mavkar
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany592 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 21:27:59
April 23 2011 21:26 GMT
#468
Uhm, you know Warhammer is a tabletop game which doesnt require computers and is around since 1987, nearly a decade before Diablo 1.
Note that I'm not supporting the rip-off argument, just wanted to get the facts strait.

Edit: Damn your ninja edit , still your point is kinda invalid.
I'm shy and reserved, even on the internet.
Arathore
Profile Joined January 2011
104 Posts
April 23 2011 21:29 GMT
#469
I was lucky enough to play this at blizzcon last year. Was really fun in the short act i was able to play.
Mavkar
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany592 Posts
April 23 2011 21:33 GMT
#470
I guess I have to play monk when it comes out. Miss my paladin and monk looks like the new hybrid class. Demon hunter is really meh and witch doctor not appealing to me.
I kow its a long way down the road but I hope with expansions there are more classes introduced. Kindo poor choices now it feels, very generic.
I'm shy and reserved, even on the internet.
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 21:45:34
April 23 2011 21:43 GMT
#471

Diablo 1/2 are awful, user unfriendly linear games with a community full of scammers, cheaters and assholes, and the entire thing combines to be incredibly fun and addictive.


On April 23 2011 20:18 Skoe420 wrote:


Quit trolling you know nothing about d1 or 2 i can tell they were awesome and d3 is going to be the shit the only reason d2 started getting full of scammers and dumb bots is because they would rather waste time on making 414830498 WoW games instead of doing something worth while WoW has always been stupid and always will be its just their cash cow that people for some reason pay to play.

Its like you are blind or something.

HE SAID IT WAS FUN AND ADDICTIVE.

The D3 universe looks extremely small compared to the D2 universe. D2 acts I, II, IV, and V were all quite large.

All the instances I've seen of D3 are all "hallway like". I don't really like this new design but I hope it doesn't take away from game play.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 23 2011 21:50 GMT
#472
This game has so much potential as a long term fan of Diablo 2 LoD I loved every minute of it. The graphics look pretty good but there's a line between cartoony and a step up from the graphics of D2.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Jerax
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada189 Posts
April 23 2011 22:08 GMT
#473
On April 24 2011 06:43 zJayy962 wrote:
Show nested quote +

Diablo 1/2 are awful, user unfriendly linear games with a community full of scammers, cheaters and assholes, and the entire thing combines to be incredibly fun and addictive.


Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 20:18 Skoe420 wrote:


Quit trolling you know nothing about d1 or 2 i can tell they were awesome and d3 is going to be the shit the only reason d2 started getting full of scammers and dumb bots is because they would rather waste time on making 414830498 WoW games instead of doing something worth while WoW has always been stupid and always will be its just their cash cow that people for some reason pay to play.

Its like you are blind or something.

HE SAID IT WAS FUN AND ADDICTIVE.

The D3 universe looks extremely small compared to the D2 universe. D2 acts I, II, IV, and V were all quite large.

All the instances I've seen of D3 are all "hallway like". I don't really like this new design but I hope it doesn't take away from game play.


lol what are you talking about? D3 universe looks small from..the extremely limited footage we've seen so far? Diablo has always had a "dungeon" like feel to it, frankly I don't know what game you were playing. On another note, I'm pretty sure I saw a group of players in a boss fight on open plains.

From what we've seen so far it looks like we'll be seeing a lot of dungeons, catacombs etc. just like D1 and D2.
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
April 23 2011 22:20 GMT
#474
On April 24 2011 06:43 zJayy962 wrote:


The D3 universe looks extremely small compared to the D2 universe. D2 acts I, II, IV, and V were all quite large.

All the instances I've seen of D3 are all "hallway like". I don't really like this new design but I hope it doesn't take away from game play.


I was never a big fan of the openess of D2. D1 had a claustrophobic feel to it that matched its atmosphere. You basically were underground all by yourself going deeper and deeper into hell.




King takes Queen
Flowne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands71 Posts
April 23 2011 22:32 GMT
#475
Never played it also I cant be bothered to try it

User was warned for this post
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
April 23 2011 22:39 GMT
#476
On April 24 2011 07:20 e4e5nf3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 06:43 zJayy962 wrote:


The D3 universe looks extremely small compared to the D2 universe. D2 acts I, II, IV, and V were all quite large.

All the instances I've seen of D3 are all "hallway like". I don't really like this new design but I hope it doesn't take away from game play.


I was never a big fan of the openess of D2. D1 had a claustrophobic feel to it that matched its atmosphere. You basically were underground all by yourself going deeper and deeper into hell.






Spot on. My main dislike about D2 is the lack of large scale dungeon other than say, the forgotten tower or the catacombs in A1. D1 felt like a descent into hell, but the gameplay was a bit limited. D2 improved upon that by bringing skilltrees, runewords, socketing, item procs and a very wide array of weapons and mods. etc.

D3 will be another step forward. People expecting a massive overhaul of the game are naive, just like those expecting the exact same game. They will improve on what was lacking (give area of effect spells and abilities to all classes), avoid novelty or nearly useless skills that are only there for sake of filler, provide incentives to explore (quests) rather than run through ASAP since the best stuff is in the high level areas or bugged chests.

There's only so much you can improve on a basic hack and slash, it seems to me like they are doing a good job of making combat interesting and interactive rather than point and click. My only fear is that the game will be diluted and too easy to please the crappy gamers of today (99% of the wow players).
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
SeanShepard
Profile Joined September 2010
United States48 Posts
April 23 2011 23:09 GMT
#477
On April 24 2011 07:39 AeroGear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 07:20 e4e5nf3 wrote:
On April 24 2011 06:43 zJayy962 wrote:


The D3 universe looks extremely small compared to the D2 universe. D2 acts I, II, IV, and V were all quite large.

All the instances I've seen of D3 are all "hallway like". I don't really like this new design but I hope it doesn't take away from game play.


I was never a big fan of the openess of D2. D1 had a claustrophobic feel to it that matched its atmosphere. You basically were underground all by yourself going deeper and deeper into hell.






Spot on. My main dislike about D2 is the lack of large scale dungeon other than say, the forgotten tower or the catacombs in A1. D1 felt like a descent into hell, but the gameplay was a bit limited. D2 improved upon that by bringing skilltrees, runewords, socketing, item procs and a very wide array of weapons and mods. etc.

D3 will be another step forward. People expecting a massive overhaul of the game are naive, just like those expecting the exact same game. They will improve on what was lacking (give area of effect spells and abilities to all classes), avoid novelty or nearly useless skills that are only there for sake of filler, provide incentives to explore (quests) rather than run through ASAP since the best stuff is in the high level areas or bugged chests.

There's only so much you can improve on a basic hack and slash, it seems to me like they are doing a good job of making combat interesting and interactive rather than point and click. My only fear is that the game will be diluted and too easy to please the crappy gamers of today (99% of the wow players).


I'm sorry but you're fear that the game will be "diluted and too easy" is quite silly. Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 were quite easy to play - there was in fact no real way to fail. Making Diablo 3 not easy to play would be a massive change to the series and that's extremely unlikely.

tldr: Diablo 3 will be EASY and it has nothing to do with World of Warcraft.
UltraVires
Profile Joined April 2010
United States241 Posts
April 23 2011 23:13 GMT
#478
On April 24 2011 08:09 SeanShepard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 07:39 AeroGear wrote:
On April 24 2011 07:20 e4e5nf3 wrote:
On April 24 2011 06:43 zJayy962 wrote:


The D3 universe looks extremely small compared to the D2 universe. D2 acts I, II, IV, and V were all quite large.

All the instances I've seen of D3 are all "hallway like". I don't really like this new design but I hope it doesn't take away from game play.


I was never a big fan of the openess of D2. D1 had a claustrophobic feel to it that matched its atmosphere. You basically were underground all by yourself going deeper and deeper into hell.






Spot on. My main dislike about D2 is the lack of large scale dungeon other than say, the forgotten tower or the catacombs in A1. D1 felt like a descent into hell, but the gameplay was a bit limited. D2 improved upon that by bringing skilltrees, runewords, socketing, item procs and a very wide array of weapons and mods. etc.

D3 will be another step forward. People expecting a massive overhaul of the game are naive, just like those expecting the exact same game. They will improve on what was lacking (give area of effect spells and abilities to all classes), avoid novelty or nearly useless skills that are only there for sake of filler, provide incentives to explore (quests) rather than run through ASAP since the best stuff is in the high level areas or bugged chests.

There's only so much you can improve on a basic hack and slash, it seems to me like they are doing a good job of making combat interesting and interactive rather than point and click. My only fear is that the game will be diluted and too easy to please the crappy gamers of today (99% of the wow players).


I'm sorry but you're fear that the game will be "diluted and too easy" is quite silly. Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 were quite easy to play - there was in fact no real way to fail. Making Diablo 3 not easy to play would be a massive change to the series and that's extremely unlikely.

tldr: Diablo 3 will be EASY and it has nothing to do with World of Warcraft.


If you don't want easy, play hardcore.
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
April 23 2011 23:27 GMT
#479
Hardcore is just as easy altough the builds tend to be a bit weaker due to being forced to gear up for survival rather than 100% offense. AI is too limited in D1 and D2 to pose any threat. You can still die to a stair trap or an unlucky encounter with an extra fast/extra strong/fana aura boss pack or something similar. They can only have improved the AI in D3, and I think they made it so monsters team up or seek nearby allies when they get outmatched.

The point I'm making with the WoW playerbase, is that they expect everything to go their way, instances and raids have been consistently nerfed due to the average player being too bad to tackle them. The same playerbase will migrate or at least buy D3 so they might have the same impact upon the design of encounters. The design team has caved many times to douse the complaints.
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
April 23 2011 23:46 GMT
#480
On April 24 2011 08:27 AeroGear wrote:
Hardcore is just as easy altough the builds tend to be a bit weaker due to being forced to gear up for survival rather than 100% offense. AI is too limited in D1 and D2 to pose any threat. You can still die to a stair trap or an unlucky encounter with an extra fast/extra strong/fana aura boss pack or something similar. They can only have improved the AI in D3, and I think they made it so monsters team up or seek nearby allies when they get outmatched.

The point I'm making with the WoW playerbase, is that they expect everything to go their way, instances and raids have been consistently nerfed due to the average player being too bad to tackle them. The same playerbase will migrate or at least buy D3 so they might have the same impact upon the design of encounters. The design team has caved many times to douse the complaints.


Yeah except nothing is stopping you from doing it the hard way. Top guilds went for hard modes and achievements that were harder than the regular play through. In D2, people played hardcore.

I'm not saying this applies to you, but a lot of people played hardcore in D2 and then complained it was too easy. Ironically, they all used map hacks and exit bots to make sure they never die. I'm not even sure if irony is the proper word here, but I don't even care because its ironic.
We talkin about PRACTICE
IamaGrapeMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada165 Posts
April 23 2011 23:49 GMT
#481
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


whoa, when they come out with a fortune teller class in the expansion pick you should pick that
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 13:50:49
April 24 2011 13:49 GMT
#482
I am really looking forward to playing this game with friends, I doubt it is going be hard but it is probably going to be awesome to play through as coop games are rather rare and it looks great. I am probably going to be a monk because I find that them far cooler than the rest of the classes.
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Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
April 26 2011 23:50 GMT
#483
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/27/arts/video-games/diablo-iii-from-blizzard-a-preview.html?_r=2

NYTimes article on Diablo 3
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 27 2011 00:06 GMT
#484
As long as the Wizard plays somewhat like a Sorcy I'll be happy with d3.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
CamTSU
Profile Joined April 2011
United States93 Posts
April 27 2011 00:10 GMT
#485
Really disappointed that they're treating pvp as kind of a secondary feature. It should be one of the main focuses of the game

PVP is one of the biggest reasons i want to play the game :\
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 27 2011 00:12 GMT
#486
On April 27 2011 09:10 CamTSU wrote:
Really disappointed that they're treating pvp as kind of a secondary feature. It should be one of the main focuses of the game

PVP is one of the biggest reasons i want to play the game :\


If you've seen what they did to WoW with pvp, I assure you that you don't.
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 00:13:30
April 27 2011 00:13 GMT
#487
On April 27 2011 09:10 CamTSU wrote:
Really disappointed that they're treating pvp as kind of a secondary feature. It should be one of the main focuses of the game

PVP is one of the biggest reasons i want to play the game :\


I don't think that PvP was ever a main focus of the Diablo series.

I'm happy that they are taking it as a second feature. WoW was wrecked that same way, by focusing on both PvP and PvE and then failing at both. Blizzard can't do PvP, don't hope for it.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 00:36:36
April 27 2011 00:28 GMT
#488
Diablo is not a competitive PvP game... not diablo 1, not diablo 2, and most likely not even diablo 3, although it's more possible depending on what they do now and in the future

In a game where 1 set of abilities can flat-out hard counter another set of abilities, and where the time spent farming certain items or experience beats out over other things, you're not going to have good competitive play.
PvP in Diablo 2 sucked, and I'm sure they are improving it substantially in diablo 3. It would be nice if they made the game have an option to play like guild wars, but I think that's extremely unlikely (and GW2 will likely come out similar time as D3, so just get that).

With regards to classes, I think they all have pretty nice draw to me, except the witch doctor. I think the witch doctor is a cool character in RP and appearance and stuff, but I absolutely hate any class that runs around with any summons or other no-skill BS like D2's Blessed Hammer ability.
That said, I think I will be choosing the monk even though other classes seem pretty nice.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
April 27 2011 00:35 GMT
#489
Hardcore is no longer hardcore, you can use real money to rez your dead hardcore character, oh by the way arena in hardcore, is literally hardcore, Real man plays hardcore and don't rez with real money!
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 27 2011 00:36 GMT
#490
On April 27 2011 09:35 rei wrote:
Hardcore is no longer hardcore, you can use real money to rez your dead hardcore character, oh by the way arena in hardcore, is literally hardcore, Real man plays hardcore and don't rez with real money!


What the fuck?

Really?

That's such bullshit what the fuck was Blizzard thinking.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
April 27 2011 00:37 GMT
#491
As long as they dont take that many ressources from the dev team to focus on "pvp" im fine with them making it a bonus mini-game for those who want to compete in it. I'll get my nerd thrills by playing HC and playing SOLO.
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
bebe01
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)512 Posts
April 27 2011 00:37 GMT
#492
On April 27 2011 09:36 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 09:35 rei wrote:
Hardcore is no longer hardcore, you can use real money to rez your dead hardcore character, oh by the way arena in hardcore, is literally hardcore, Real man plays hardcore and don't rez with real money!


What the fuck?

Really?

That's such bullshit what the fuck was Blizzard thinking.


you rather pay 15 dollars a month? or have features bought for money.. you decide pal it's the year 2011
Hollywise
Profile Joined December 2010
France112 Posts
April 27 2011 00:44 GMT
#493
On April 27 2011 09:37 lGy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 09:36 Jayme wrote:
On April 27 2011 09:35 rei wrote:
Hardcore is no longer hardcore, you can use real money to rez your dead hardcore character, oh by the way arena in hardcore, is literally hardcore, Real man plays hardcore and don't rez with real money!


What the fuck?

Really?

That's such bullshit what the fuck was Blizzard thinking.


you rather pay 15 dollars a month? or have features bought for money.. you decide pal it's the year 2011

the fact that blizzard could have done something worse doesn't mean this isn't a totalbullshit
has left the game.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 00:48:22
April 27 2011 00:46 GMT
#494
On April 27 2011 09:37 lGy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 09:36 Jayme wrote:
On April 27 2011 09:35 rei wrote:
Hardcore is no longer hardcore, you can use real money to rez your dead hardcore character, oh by the way arena in hardcore, is literally hardcore, Real man plays hardcore and don't rez with real money!


What the fuck?

Really?

That's such bullshit what the fuck was Blizzard thinking.


you rather pay 15 dollars a month? or have features bought for money.. you decide pal it's the year 2011


What the hell do you mean it's year 2011?

What the initial 60 dollars I pay for the game isn't enough anymore? That's horseshit. Orange Box didn't charge me anything extra after I bought it and those were REALLY REALLY GOOD GAMES. Then again that's Valve...so yea... They haven't totally sold themselves to Kodick yet.

It wasn't about PAYING to res in hardcore that I'm annoyed at it's the fact that you can res at all in hardcore. That completely defeats the purpose.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
April 27 2011 01:00 GMT
#495
PvP is the reason that Diablo II is still so strong today.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
April 27 2011 01:02 GMT
#496
Hardcore PvP is the reason Diablo2 is any fun.
D3 hardcore pvp means E-penis is linked to real money now, which means ppl have to put the money where their mouth is!
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 27 2011 01:10 GMT
#497
The people saying that you can pay money to rez yourself, is there any link or news thing that says so?
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
April 27 2011 01:23 GMT
#498
On April 27 2011 10:10 FinestHour wrote:
The people saying that you can pay money to rez yourself, is there any link or news thing that says so?

I don't know who "the people" is, but this most likely bullshit. To quote Bashiok:
Paying to bring back a fallen hardcore character was something I read someone here post once, and I simply repeated it to say I thought it was an interesting idea. I’m not a designer. Things I find interesting doesn’t mean they’re being implemented. I have though heard Jay (who is lead designer) say that paying to bring back hardcore is pretty much a horrible idea.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 01:35:50
April 27 2011 01:34 GMT
#499
-Oops, misread-
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 27 2011 01:35 GMT
#500
On April 27 2011 10:23 kochujang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 10:10 FinestHour wrote:
The people saying that you can pay money to rez yourself, is there any link or news thing that says so?

I don't know who "the people" is, but this most likely bullshit. To quote Bashiok:
Show nested quote +
Paying to bring back a fallen hardcore character was something I read someone here post once, and I simply repeated it to say I thought it was an interesting idea. I’m not a designer. Things I find interesting doesn’t mean they’re being implemented. I have though heard Jay (who is lead designer) say that paying to bring back hardcore is pretty much a horrible idea.

thanks for dropping knowledge. I was never that big into hardcore before but I really want to try it for d3.
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keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
April 27 2011 01:41 GMT
#501
Let them buy back, just flag the character that they did, that way you can separate people who actually are doing hardcore, and people who are just doing hardcore because uhh they want to be known for doing hardcore... but aren't really hardcore because they aren't doing hardcore... aka stupid rich kids.
Isn't it ironic and selfish to say that God made man in his image, when God was made in man's image?
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
April 27 2011 01:47 GMT
#502
On April 27 2011 10:35 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 10:23 kochujang wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:10 FinestHour wrote:
The people saying that you can pay money to rez yourself, is there any link or news thing that says so?

I don't know who "the people" is, but this most likely bullshit. To quote Bashiok:
Paying to bring back a fallen hardcore character was something I read someone here post once, and I simply repeated it to say I thought it was an interesting idea. I’m not a designer. Things I find interesting doesn’t mean they’re being implemented. I have though heard Jay (who is lead designer) say that paying to bring back hardcore is pretty much a horrible idea.

thanks for dropping knowledge. I was never that big into hardcore before but I really want to try it for d3.


Hardcore is the best thing ever, Try it once and you never go back. Having your heart almost pounding out of your chest for fear of losing your character while doing bosses on hell difficulty with random lag spikes was the most insane adrenaline pump ever.
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
April 27 2011 03:13 GMT
#503
Buying back is garbage. Glad their lead designer thinks so too.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
April 27 2011 05:40 GMT
#504
Their lead stockholders might decide otherwise, we'll see! Pretty excited about seeing what they unveil at Blizzcon, not attending or paying for it, but will get my hands on all the infos released by the fanatics ^^
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
April 27 2011 12:43 GMT
#505
On April 27 2011 10:47 absalom86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 10:35 crms wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:23 kochujang wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:10 FinestHour wrote:
The people saying that you can pay money to rez yourself, is there any link or news thing that says so?

I don't know who "the people" is, but this most likely bullshit. To quote Bashiok:
Paying to bring back a fallen hardcore character was something I read someone here post once, and I simply repeated it to say I thought it was an interesting idea. I’m not a designer. Things I find interesting doesn’t mean they’re being implemented. I have though heard Jay (who is lead designer) say that paying to bring back hardcore is pretty much a horrible idea.

thanks for dropping knowledge. I was never that big into hardcore before but I really want to try it for d3.


Hardcore is the best thing ever, Try it once and you never go back. Having your heart almost pounding out of your chest for fear of losing your character while doing bosses on hell difficulty with random lag spikes was the most insane adrenaline pump ever.


This.

I cannot praise the option to play hardcore enough. Its a hundred times more fun than pussymode (softcore)
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
April 27 2011 13:11 GMT
#506
On April 27 2011 21:43 DaCruise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 10:47 absalom86 wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:35 crms wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:23 kochujang wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:10 FinestHour wrote:
The people saying that you can pay money to rez yourself, is there any link or news thing that says so?

I don't know who "the people" is, but this most likely bullshit. To quote Bashiok:
Paying to bring back a fallen hardcore character was something I read someone here post once, and I simply repeated it to say I thought it was an interesting idea. I’m not a designer. Things I find interesting doesn’t mean they’re being implemented. I have though heard Jay (who is lead designer) say that paying to bring back hardcore is pretty much a horrible idea.

thanks for dropping knowledge. I was never that big into hardcore before but I really want to try it for d3.


Hardcore is the best thing ever, Try it once and you never go back. Having your heart almost pounding out of your chest for fear of losing your character while doing bosses on hell difficulty with random lag spikes was the most insane adrenaline pump ever.


This.

I cannot praise the option to play hardcore enough. Its a hundred times more fun than pussymode (softcore)


I have to agree at 100% with that.
Hardcore is THE shit. try it once, you'll never look back.
The massive adrenaline pump during dangerous situations. In hardcore, there is no place for mistakes. This is way more challenging and rewarding. Playing hardcore makes you feel alive.
As stated above :
Do yourself a favor : don't play pussymode
rayvah
Profile Joined January 2011
40 Posts
April 27 2011 13:30 GMT
#507
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


Good call O_O
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
April 27 2011 16:44 GMT
#508
On April 27 2011 22:11 Diks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 21:43 DaCruise wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:47 absalom86 wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:35 crms wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:23 kochujang wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:10 FinestHour wrote:
The people saying that you can pay money to rez yourself, is there any link or news thing that says so?

I don't know who "the people" is, but this most likely bullshit. To quote Bashiok:
Paying to bring back a fallen hardcore character was something I read someone here post once, and I simply repeated it to say I thought it was an interesting idea. I’m not a designer. Things I find interesting doesn’t mean they’re being implemented. I have though heard Jay (who is lead designer) say that paying to bring back hardcore is pretty much a horrible idea.

thanks for dropping knowledge. I was never that big into hardcore before but I really want to try it for d3.


Hardcore is the best thing ever, Try it once and you never go back. Having your heart almost pounding out of your chest for fear of losing your character while doing bosses on hell difficulty with random lag spikes was the most insane adrenaline pump ever.


This.

I cannot praise the option to play hardcore enough. Its a hundred times more fun than pussymode (softcore)


I have to agree at 100% with that.
Hardcore is THE shit. try it once, you'll never look back.
The massive adrenaline pump during dangerous situations. In hardcore, there is no place for mistakes. This is way more challenging and rewarding. Playing hardcore makes you feel alive.
As stated above :
Do yourself a favor : don't play pussymode

Then you lose a level 85 char because of a lag spike
thanks bnet
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
April 27 2011 17:05 GMT
#509
I havent heard of this buyback hardcore feature, I think its misunderstanding. Either way, I dont care. I dont play hardcore because of my retarded internet + extreme stress.
Just another gold Protoss...
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 17:08:48
April 27 2011 17:07 GMT
#510
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oncearunner
Profile Joined October 2010
190 Posts
April 27 2011 17:42 GMT
#511
On April 27 2011 08:50 Blackrobe wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/27/arts/video-games/diablo-iii-from-blizzard-a-preview.html?_r=2

NYTimes article on Diablo 3


"It appears distinctly possible that Diablo could be the first Blizzard franchise to make the leap from PCs to consoles like the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, but Blizzard isn’t talking about that."

I really like the article, but this part jsut isnt accurate.
Did anyone else play Starcraft on Nintendo64? That was my first time playing SC and i loved it, but i couldnt go back after playing the PC version.

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HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 17:51:04
April 27 2011 17:44 GMT
#512
On April 27 2011 22:11 Diks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 21:43 DaCruise wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:47 absalom86 wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:35 crms wrote:
thanks for dropping knowledge. I was never that big into hardcore before but I really want to try it for d3.


Hardcore is the best thing ever, Try it once and you never go back. Having your heart almost pounding out of your chest for fear of losing your character while doing bosses on hell difficulty with random lag spikes was the most insane adrenaline pump ever.


This.

I cannot praise the option to play hardcore enough. Its a hundred times more fun than pussymode (softcore)


I have to agree at 100% with that.
Hardcore is THE shit. try it once, you'll never look back.
The massive adrenaline pump during dangerous situations. In hardcore, there is no place for mistakes. This is way more challenging and rewarding. Playing hardcore makes you feel alive.
As stated above :
Do yourself a favor : don't play pussymode

Second that.

Hardcore adrenaline rush is the best Diablo 2 can offer especially in fast-paced Hell where half a second decision can kill you.

What is the fun of pumping 500 points in one/two stats (str or dex) and running around fighting monsters head on with -50 resists while having pizza on one hand?
The character planning for longevity and retreating from battle, cautiousness of using defensive map features, checking corners and boss stats before engaging, etc are all Gold!! It is a completely different gaming experience!

Try it!! Given that you have a good heart that can take the loss of lvl 80+ chars and/or weeks of work in a black-cloak.
(Especially in 1.13 they already removed two deadly 1-hit feature: Fire Enchant and Iron Maiden. But Willowisp and Stygian Doll are still deadly though.)
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
oncearunner
Profile Joined October 2010
190 Posts
April 27 2011 19:35 GMT
#513
On April 28 2011 02:44 HighTemper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 22:11 Diks wrote:
On April 27 2011 21:43 DaCruise wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:47 absalom86 wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:35 crms wrote:
thanks for dropping knowledge. I was never that big into hardcore before but I really want to try it for d3.


Hardcore is the best thing ever, Try it once and you never go back. Having your heart almost pounding out of your chest for fear of losing your character while doing bosses on hell difficulty with random lag spikes was the most insane adrenaline pump ever.


This.

I cannot praise the option to play hardcore enough. Its a hundred times more fun than pussymode (softcore)


I have to agree at 100% with that.
Hardcore is THE shit. try it once, you'll never look back.
The massive adrenaline pump during dangerous situations. In hardcore, there is no place for mistakes. This is way more challenging and rewarding. Playing hardcore makes you feel alive.
As stated above :
Do yourself a favor : don't play pussymode

Second that.

Hardcore adrenaline rush is the best Diablo 2 can offer especially in fast-paced Hell where half a second decision can kill you.

What is the fun of pumping 500 points in one/two stats (str or dex) and running around fighting monsters head on with -50 resists while having pizza on one hand?
The character planning for longevity and retreating from battle, cautiousness of using defensive map features, checking corners and boss stats before engaging, etc are all Gold!! It is a completely different gaming experience!

Try it!! Given that you have a good heart that can take the loss of lvl 80+ chars and/or weeks of work in a black-cloak.
(Especially in 1.13 they already removed two deadly 1-hit feature: Fire Enchant and Iron Maiden. But Willowisp and Stygian Doll are still deadly though.)


No more Iron Maiden?!
I remember losing my first Barbarian as a noob clearing the way to Baal in his throne. Poor guy never saw it coming ;/
sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
April 27 2011 20:42 GMT
#514
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/27/arts/video-games/diablo-iii-from-blizzard-a-preview.html?_r=1

New york times blizzard fan boy writes article on D3. The wait for the beta is getting out of hand!!!
My favorites: Terran - Maru // Protoss - SoS // Zerg - soO ~~~ fighting!
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
April 27 2011 20:46 GMT
#515
On April 24 2011 08:49 IamaGrapeMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


whoa, when they come out with a fortune teller class in the expansion pick you should pick that


I looked at his 3 year old post and thought "didn't they add Demon Hunter to the character classes...". We have ourselves a wizard.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
April 27 2011 20:47 GMT
#516
On April 27 2011 10:47 absalom86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 10:35 crms wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:23 kochujang wrote:
On April 27 2011 10:10 FinestHour wrote:
The people saying that you can pay money to rez yourself, is there any link or news thing that says so?

I don't know who "the people" is, but this most likely bullshit. To quote Bashiok:
Paying to bring back a fallen hardcore character was something I read someone here post once, and I simply repeated it to say I thought it was an interesting idea. I’m not a designer. Things I find interesting doesn’t mean they’re being implemented. I have though heard Jay (who is lead designer) say that paying to bring back hardcore is pretty much a horrible idea.

thanks for dropping knowledge. I was never that big into hardcore before but I really want to try it for d3.


Hardcore is the best thing ever, Try it once and you never go back. Having your heart almost pounding out of your chest for fear of losing your character while doing bosses on hell difficulty with random lag spikes was the most insane adrenaline pump ever.


It's also frustrating as fuck when you die but that's half the fun.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
April 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#517
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2011 02:42 oncearunner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 08:50 Blackrobe wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/27/arts/video-games/diablo-iii-from-blizzard-a-preview.html?_r=2

NYTimes article on Diablo 3


"It appears distinctly possible that Diablo could be the first Blizzard franchise to make the leap from PCs to consoles like the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, but Blizzard isn’t talking about that."

I really like the article, but this part jsut isnt accurate.
Did anyone else play Starcraft on Nintendo64? That was my first time playing SC and i loved it, but i couldnt go back after playing the PC version.

[image loading]



I believe the original diablo was on consoles as well even before SC64
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
April 27 2011 20:55 GMT
#518
repost (pls dont delete this, cause everybody here should vote so we can get a good look at which char is interesting for TL community)

On April 23 2011 19:10 ZeraToss wrote:
wow.. i didnt check diablo 3 news for 5 months lol, i guess everything i know changed. Still, i know all characters... MONK FIGHTING

sry if this exist, maybe add in OP?
Poll: Which Class are you going to play?

Wizard (23)
 
21%

Monk (21)
 
19%

Barbarian (20)
 
18%

Demon Hunter (17)
 
15%

Witch Doctor (15)
 
14%

Gonna check all first, dunno atm (15)
 
14%

111 total votes

Your vote: Which Class are you going to play?

(Vote): Barbarian
(Vote): Wizard
(Vote): Witch Doctor
(Vote): Monk
(Vote): Demon Hunter
(Vote): Gonna check all first, dunno atm



for discussion : Why that class?

for me : i am definetly going to check all classes for sure, but monk is likely be #1 , because of his unique style and handsomeness

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OblivionMage
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada377 Posts
April 27 2011 22:32 GMT
#519
Gah, I just want to play Diablo 3. Curse this waiting.
Jerax
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada189 Posts
April 27 2011 23:58 GMT
#520
Probably going to go Demon Hunter -> Barbarian -> Wizard -> then the rest. The fast paced style of the demon hunter from the gameplay video looks too much fun to pass up imo.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
April 28 2011 00:05 GMT
#521
I hope hc is back but better without tppk, and the reliance of quick exiting out and the random lagspikes i lost sooooo many characters to.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
noidontthinkso
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece94 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 00:08:52
April 28 2011 00:08 GMT
#522
since i own an i5 2500k they better invite me to beta !!11

i want to try out the monk.. sick and tired of playing sorc
i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, GTX560 Ti, 8GB G-Skill RipJaws DDR3-2000 @1600Mhz CAS 6
hehe
Profile Joined April 2009
United States132 Posts
April 28 2011 00:29 GMT
#523
On April 28 2011 02:07 Barrin wrote:
Hardcore would have been absolutely fantastic without random lagspikes. And without everyone else maphacking/chickening so you could actually compete against legit people while being legit. No jsp would be nice too so some people aren't automatically rich at the beginning of a ladder reset.

That is the true spirit of hardcore TBH. Long gone.

lol jsp is the best site ever, theres so many scammers on it recently though, now it just fails
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
April 28 2011 00:30 GMT
#524
Does anyone know if you were invited to sc2 beta that you have a higher or lower chance of being accepted into Diablo 3's?
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
DarkGeneral
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada328 Posts
April 28 2011 00:32 GMT
#525
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


lol the irony
"Everybody gotta die some time, righ'?" - Wraith Pilot
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
April 28 2011 00:53 GMT
#526
On April 28 2011 09:30 Uncultured wrote:
Does anyone know if you were invited to sc2 beta that you have a higher or lower chance of being accepted into Diablo 3's?


They are probably completely independent events. Aside from Blizzcon tickets, making sure your Battle.net account has the checks to signify you are willing to beta test is probably the only thing that may increase your chances of getting an invite. This is not including the ones that will be given away over time through different sites and competitions of course.
VsTerminus
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada42 Posts
April 28 2011 00:59 GMT
#527
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !

Just came into this thread, read this post and am beside myself.

Someone find out if this guy is psychic or somethin
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
April 29 2011 05:02 GMT
#528
On April 28 2011 05:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2011 02:42 oncearunner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 08:50 Blackrobe wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/27/arts/video-games/diablo-iii-from-blizzard-a-preview.html?_r=2

NYTimes article on Diablo 3


"It appears distinctly possible that Diablo could be the first Blizzard franchise to make the leap from PCs to consoles like the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, but Blizzard isn’t talking about that."

I really like the article, but this part jsut isnt accurate.
Did anyone else play Starcraft on Nintendo64? That was my first time playing SC and i loved it, but i couldnt go back after playing the PC version.

[image loading]



I believe the original diablo was on consoles as well even before SC64

Yeah Diablo was on the Playstation before SC went to N64, Obviously the article wasn't too well-researched, although blizzard hasn't done any ports recently, ie. the last 11-12 years, which is all they needed to add to be accurate.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 05:23:47
April 29 2011 05:15 GMT
#529
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kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
April 29 2011 08:28 GMT
#530
On April 29 2011 14:15 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
lol jsp is the best site ever, theres so many scammers on it recently though, now it just fails

Having certain people being instantly rich at the beginning of a ladder reset? Lame as hell TBH. Defeats the purpose of a reset. And not only because me and my brother have mastered the art of getting rich (legitly...). It is truly disappointing that so many people don't see that and/or haven't experienced what a true ladder reset is really like. I almost feel sorry for them to be honest.

jsp also gives botters a place to base their operations. It was founded by bots. It facilitates bots. Botting is incredibly lame, and if you don't agree with that then I fear for the future of our friendship.


Botting ruined everything everywhere! It's sad how other people botting ruined some of the charm with Diablo 2

That should never be repeated!
LiTwIcKi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11 Posts
April 30 2011 01:47 GMT
#531
Hey, so my friend made a great Diablo III wallpaper and I wanted to know what Team Liquid thought about it. If you like it, go follow: http://www.justin.tv/chipinators

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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
May 02 2011 08:47 GMT
#532
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Diablo-3-Home-Stretch-Action-RPG-PC-Gaming-Jay-Wilson,12665.html

I guess they made an in game auction house for diablo and that's why it's taking so long.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
May 02 2011 09:06 GMT
#533
getting released on ps3 and xbox? weirrrrrrd
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 09:14:39
May 02 2011 09:13 GMT
#534
On May 02 2011 17:47 darmousseh wrote:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Diablo-3-Home-Stretch-Action-RPG-PC-Gaming-Jay-Wilson,12665.html

I guess they made an in game auction house for diablo and that's why it's taking so long.


Thank god, trading in d2 is so obnoxiously obtuse, you either have to sit in chat channels spamming your wares, make games with advertising names and hope someone pops in, or use a third party website. It's just exhausting.

That link is kinda lame, just a short description of the recent New York Times article.
It's easier not to.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
May 02 2011 10:42 GMT
#535
On April 29 2011 14:02 Xapti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 05:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2011 02:42 oncearunner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 08:50 Blackrobe wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/27/arts/video-games/diablo-iii-from-blizzard-a-preview.html?_r=2

NYTimes article on Diablo 3


"It appears distinctly possible that Diablo could be the first Blizzard franchise to make the leap from PCs to consoles like the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, but Blizzard isn’t talking about that."

I really like the article, but this part jsut isnt accurate.
Did anyone else play Starcraft on Nintendo64? That was my first time playing SC and i loved it, but i couldnt go back after playing the PC version.

[image loading]



I believe the original diablo was on consoles as well even before SC64

Yeah Diablo was on the Playstation before SC went to N64, Obviously the article wasn't too well-researched, although blizzard hasn't done any ports recently, ie. the last 11-12 years, which is all they needed to add to be accurate.


It might be accurate, depends on how you interpret it. Because the quote is "consoles like the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3", which I read as "the latest generation of consoles", in that case it makes sense .
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
May 02 2011 10:48 GMT
#536
Kinda sucks to have only 5 classes playable compare to d2 where u have more.

Unless of course they plan to have more than 1 expansion sets just like SC2
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
May 02 2011 10:52 GMT
#537
On May 02 2011 19:48 Azurues wrote:
Kinda sucks to have only 5 classes playable compare to d2 where u have more.

Unless of course they plan to have more than 1 expansion sets just like SC2


they have 2 expansions slated, probably options for more
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
May 02 2011 10:54 GMT
#538
Expansions are money-grabs their just abusing the fact they can withhold character classes.
zFugitivE
Profile Joined July 2010
United States58 Posts
May 02 2011 12:05 GMT
#539
On May 02 2011 19:54 zZygote wrote:
Expansions are money-grabs their just abusing the fact they can withhold character classes.


Why do you feel the world owes everything to you? So...you believe everything that will ever be in the game for possibly the next 10 years all has to be released on the very first day of sales?

Unless your poor, 40-50$ dollars once every few years on something you spend numerous hours a week on should hardly feel like them abusing anything...
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
May 02 2011 12:09 GMT
#540
On May 02 2011 19:48 Azurues wrote:
Kinda sucks to have only 5 classes playable compare to d2 where u have more.

Unless of course they plan to have more than 1 expansion sets just like SC2


Diablo I only had 3, Diablo II started with 5 as well (w/o the expansion).
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
May 02 2011 13:23 GMT
#541
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !

are you a wizard? Give this man a beta key stat!
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
May 02 2011 13:30 GMT
#542
actually, the "next" was Wizard, Monk, then the Demon Hunter class.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
May 02 2011 14:01 GMT
#543
On May 02 2011 21:05 zFugitivE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 19:54 zZygote wrote:
Expansions are money-grabs their just abusing the fact they can withhold character classes.


Why do you feel the world owes everything to you? So...you believe everything that will ever be in the game for possibly the next 10 years all has to be released on the very first day of sales?

Unless your poor, 40-50$ dollars once every few years on something you spend numerous hours a week on should hardly feel like them abusing anything...


I'd buy diablo 3 if it was 80 bucks. I wouldn't like it, but I would. And I'd buy every expansion that eventually came with it.

If you have ever reasoned paying $40 for any other game, this game will be at least twice as good.

hyyppeee.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 14:05:34
May 02 2011 14:05 GMT
#544
On May 02 2011 22:23 Phayze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !

are you a wizard? Give this man a beta key stat!


Well, Famehunter's secret is out, he is working for blizz
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 02 2011 14:20 GMT
#545
On May 02 2011 22:30 anch wrote:
actually, the "next" was Wizard, Monk, then the Demon Hunter class.


Or so Blizzard would have you believe... Demon hunter was slated to be the next announcement, this was of course changed after the devs had read TL. Wizard was originally the big "save for last" class to be announced leaving people in doubt of whether there'd be a spellcaster in the game or not.
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
May 02 2011 14:22 GMT
#546
On May 02 2011 22:23 Phayze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !

are you a wizard? Give this man a beta key stat!


This makes me lol on so many levels!
Dark Archon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
18 Posts
September 11 2011 05:46 GMT
#547
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


Thought this was worthy of another bump, LOL.
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
September 11 2011 05:51 GMT
#548
On September 11 2011 14:46 Dark Archon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2008 21:51 Famehunter wrote:
LMAO at witch doctors... whats next? Demon hunters? LOL !


Thought this was worthy of another bump, LOL.


iv seen this like 100 times and still makes me laugh everytime
someone should go find him and see what his reaction is now
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