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omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
March 05 2008 18:11 GMT
#41
I thought the Metroid Prime speed runs were pretty impressive too.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 05 2008 18:19 GMT
#42
1 segment is a save. The way it works is this:

The guy makes many attempts on segment 1. At the end of each attempt he'll save on a different slot, so he can compare which time is better, etc. When he's satisfied with segment 1, he's done with it forever. Then he loads the save for the real segment 1, and begins segment 2, whereupon he saves on different slots until he's satisfied with segment 2, etc.

If you're on segment 13 and you realize there's a mistake in segment 3...you have to start over. In a better run, you've already thought of everything, and you've already made test runs to plan everything ahead so you won't run into problems like that.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
March 05 2008 19:46 GMT
#43
On March 05 2008 15:53 Pwntrucci[sR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2008 14:40 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
i think my time was 16 hours or something? I had to restart the game like 90x because the cartidge kept getting owned and erased, but i think after my 6th time i finally beat it without everything deleting, the result being like 16 hours. What are your guys best?

also i beat Zelda Ocarina of Time in around 8 hours, the world records like 5:30 or something. I beat that game around 20+ times in every way possible, and in a week I'm gonna do both Zelda for n64 again :D Fun stuff.


5:30 you say? How about 2:26?

http://speeddemosarchive.com/OcarinaOfTime.html

This run is sick, they simply rape the game so brutally it's mind bending. EVERYONE should watch this run, especially fans of starcraft who usually appreciate impressive play.

I was referring to the one without save warping, which i saw like 5 months ago, this must be a newer one, but i must confess even with the insane amount of time i put into playing zelda i only discovered a few bugs I wouldn't mind trying a speed run, but yeah i re looked up the zelda one after i posted that.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 05 2008 22:06 GMT
#44
Wow, parts 27 and 28 are crazy.

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Rosa and Rydia get leveled from 20 to 48/50 (getting all their spells) in two 5-minute battles. Nice glitch using life potions on high-XP monsters.


I'm not entirely sure how the glitch in 29 works.
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omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
March 05 2008 22:25 GMT
#45
On March 06 2008 07:06 SonuvBob wrote:
Wow, parts 27 and 28 are crazy.

+ Show Spoiler +
Rosa and Rydia get leveled from 20 to 48/50 (getting all their spells) in two 5-minute battles. Nice glitch using life potions on high-XP monsters.


I'm not entirely sure how the glitch in 29 works.

What's the glitch in 29? Not having the elements change? I think its just because he rapes them so hard and fast.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 05 2008 22:52 GMT
#46
He mentions in his description that there's a glitch used in 29 and 32. Something to do with Wall I guess?
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omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
March 05 2008 22:54 GMT
#47
Hm, I thought using wall and reflecting spells was pretty typical. Seems like his spells do an awful lot of damage though.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 05 2008 22:59 GMT
#48
Maybe it uses the magic defense stat of the character w/the wall. With low levels and very little equipment, that'd make sense. But there's no way that'd be a recently discovered glitch.

It could just prevent counterattacks or have some other weird effect.
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Pwntrucci[sR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1519 Posts
March 05 2008 23:17 GMT
#49
The guy made a forum post explaining some of the stuff he did.

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I'm gonna go ahead and explain most of what I can right here right now before questions get asked after watching the run.

1. Experience Glitch: All enemies that are not immune to weak, are also not immune to life (weird to be immune to life right). Those that are immune to life are bosses. They are dieing and they ain't comin back! Another requirement is that there must still be something alive so that you can caste life on them.
How it Works: Basically all enemies are defaulted to 0 vitality. Life works by bringing you back to life with (Vitality * 5) hp. 0*5 = 0hp. So the enemy is brought back to life with 0 hp. It therefore dies again, and I gain the exp and gold of dead fish.

2. Wall Trick / Boss Glitch: This glitch is abuseable on the Dark Elf, the Four Elements, and Zeromus. What makes these guys special? Their transformation is a counter attack. But the counter-attack is based on their hp. However, this counter-attack is bypassed by not directly attacking the boss, but by reflecting a spell. This way I can do the necassary dmg without triggering the counterspell.
Note: Zeromus' transformation is really just a heal to bring his hp from 16k back up to 61k.

3. Tricks and Strategies for Zeromus: Using cure1 on Zeromus? WTF is wrong with me right? Well, what it does is cause Zeromus to counterspell with nuke, but he doesn't do this at full power, he does it at a reduced wisdom. If I can get him to counter with nuke soon enough before he casts big bang (while it is already queued), then his big bang will be very weak. You can see the effect of this in my speedrun, you'll notice the first couple Big Bang's don't have much umph, but the last few are quite devastating.
The next question I'd expect to be asked is why I take my time with things and wait for the big bang to revive rydia and blah blah blah. Well the biggest difficulty after the first 2 big bangs, is having to work around Black hole. This move removes my wall. So I have to work around his rotation to sneak in the flares.

Hope this answers any questions that would arise from watching my speedrun. Any other questions, and I will try to answer, but if they are blah blah blah "why didn't you get sub 3-hrs" I'll kick you in the nuts and take your girlfriend.
bg
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
March 05 2008 23:31 GMT
#50
^Wow neat stuff.
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
March 06 2008 01:03 GMT
#51
lol those starcraft runs were pretty impressive though cauz they could even finish it faster than me with cheats except the "there is no cow level" or even the others similars to this one. God they must have been really bored to accomplish those things :p
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 06 2008 02:13 GMT
#52
Thanks Pwntrucci, looks like I was on the right track.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
March 06 2008 18:55 GMT
#53
Maybe i'm misremembering something about the game, but when Kain steals the dark crystal in the underworld, I thought you would have to go get the crystal first? wtf?!
How did he get kain to steal the crystal before he went through that part of the stage and got it? I still remembering having to kill all those stupid trap doors that took forever to beat

Maybe I skipped something while I was watching the videos....someone enlighten me?
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 06 2008 19:01 GMT
#54
There's a glitch that lets you skip it.

+ Show Spoiler +
Apparently when you're in the throne room after the calbrena dolls/Golbez bit, casting warp puts you back in the crystal room, with the dark crystal still there. The Kain thing triggers in the sealed cave entrance when you have dark crystal in your inventory, so you can skip the whole cave.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-06 19:49:30
March 06 2008 19:39 GMT
#55
oh damn that is sick, that part of the game was such a pain in the ass
the only redeeming qualities of that portion were getting the light sword, and maybe the defense sword..it's been a while I can't remember if that's where you get it
other than that it was so obnoxious

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i found it amusing that rosa was still wearing the prisoner armor until he stripped fusoya in the golem
I also never realized that cecil's defense would be high enough to defend the entire party against valvalis, that's pretty sick
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 06 2008 19:41 GMT
#56
I really enjoyed the metal gear solid runs, very nice play.
Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
March 06 2008 22:20 GMT
#57
bleh, didnt fight evil wall (which had me quit the game for a few years) so is all null and void to me :p
The pretty things are going to hell, they wore it out but they wore it well
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
March 06 2008 22:21 GMT
#58
On March 07 2008 07:20 Powerpill wrote:
bleh, didnt fight evil wall (which had me quit the game for a few years) so is all null and void to me :p

Virus > evil wall.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 06 2008 23:43 GMT
#59
Evil wall is extremely hard, I think practically impossible at those levels and with that equipment actually. So it's quite the windfall you're able to skip fighting it in a speedrun. I mean, the Fire Brand's not going to cut it, and there's no easy elemental weakness to exploit.

Yeah, Kain's Silver gear courtesy of Golbez and co. really buffs up Cecil's defense to tank for the entire party, making the next several boss fights possible.

It's amazing how you don't actually have to level at all until right before the final dungeon. First Tellah comes along to bail you out for overworld boss fights, then Kain gear makes Cecil MVP, then you can dark crystal glitch past Evil Wall.
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
March 06 2008 23:44 GMT
#60
True, he would be a sonofabitch at low levels.
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