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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
January 02 2010 09:13 GMT
#13941
I think that?
if so
that sucks
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
January 02 2010 09:16 GMT
#13942
yeah i was like level 9 at the end of the game and i was like 17/18/5 or something rofl

i went phase first obv so i can run faster and maybe actually last hit a creep.

i also played a pretty funny beastmaster game today.

BEASTMASTER
UNFUCK YOURSELF
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
January 02 2010 09:18 GMT
#13943
God you're making me want him in HoN so badly.
He'd be so good against this little prick called Madman. Just
ROAR
THROW DOWN THE BOOK
BURN MANA
KILL
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
January 02 2010 09:19 GMT
#13944
should just play dota for da beastmasterz obv
UNFUCK YOURSELF
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
January 02 2010 09:20 GMT
#13945
I'd have to reinstall WC3.
=[
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
January 02 2010 09:24 GMT
#13946
it's worth it for beastmasterz

think of those enemies trying to juke you in the trees and tp out, only for you to make an easy path to them with your WILD AXES and cancel his tp with your ROAR. then your pig throws his shitty quills and slows him while you chop away with your increased attack speed from your passive.

dats some hardcore shit
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
January 02 2010 09:29 GMT
#13947
also, witch doctor's ult is now a snowman that shoots ice cubes.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
January 02 2010 09:45 GMT
#13948
Know what sucks about hon?
They changed WD's ult to physical because chaos doesn't exist in it.
Same with krobs ult.
So now neither go through Jereziah/Omnis ult.
It's total balls.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
January 02 2010 09:51 GMT
#13949
play dota then for chaos damage ice cubes
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-02 11:59:12
January 02 2010 11:58 GMT
#13950
There are two heroes I miss from DotA: Beastmaster and Puck.

However, I watched a DotA replay today so I could better understand a strategy my clan's borrowing from the DotA chineses... and I had difficulty deciphering what was going on. To think, I used to have trouble seeing what HoN heroes were which, etc, and now it's the other way around. Sven's model is SOOO tiny compared to Hammerstorm... he looks like a little blue creep. And Enigma is fucking GIGANTIC compared to every hero ever (how his piddly HP-pool isn't immediately focus fired down to zero in a teamfight, I dunno). A treant's healthbar is twice the size of a ghoul's (how the hell do dota players lasthit, again?). I've gotten used to pressing H once instead of spamming S while laning. And of course I know all the major item hotkeys now, which would be totally irrelevant in DotA....

I don't think I could go back to DotA if I wanted to. T T So long, beastmaster and puck! May S2 clear the fog outta their noggins and add you to their hero pools!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
January 02 2010 13:59 GMT
#13951
On January 02 2010 18:12 MYM.Testie wrote:
What does ITT stand for?!

IN THIS TOPIC

noob
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
January 02 2010 14:21 GMT
#13952
Wow we are so close to 700 pages!

We need more posts!

Let's talk about imba HoN stuff. I'll start:

Forsaken Archer... that's all I have to say about that. Your turn GO!:
Part Time Ninja
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
January 02 2010 14:22 GMT
#13953
Lost track of the changes in HoN. Logged on, and it was snowing.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-02 15:07:53
January 02 2010 15:05 GMT
#13954
On January 02 2010 20:58 Tadzio wrote:
There are two heroes I miss from DotA: Beastmaster and Puck.

However, I watched a DotA replay today so I could better understand a strategy my clan's borrowing from the DotA chineses... and I had difficulty deciphering what was going on. To think, I used to have trouble seeing what HoN heroes were which, etc, and now it's the other way around. Sven's model is SOOO tiny compared to Hammerstorm... he looks like a little blue creep. And Enigma is fucking GIGANTIC compared to every hero ever (how his piddly HP-pool isn't immediately focus fired down to zero in a teamfight, I dunno). A treant's healthbar is twice the size of a ghoul's (how the hell do dota players lasthit, again?). I've gotten used to pressing H once instead of spamming S while laning. And of course I know all the major item hotkeys now, which would be totally irrelevant in DotA....

I don't think I could go back to DotA if I wanted to. T T So long, beastmaster and puck! May S2 clear the fog outta their noggins and add you to their hero pools!


Chinese DotA is bait the other team into bad team fights and not defend against ganks.

And DotA/War3 has their own programs for hotkeys which imo works out better than HoNs.
Q, ~, Spacebar, mwheelup, mwheeldown + mouse buttons.
Get it by your hands...
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
January 02 2010 15:16 GMT
#13955
How do you guys build Wretched Hag? I've done well with her before, but I just played a game that made me think I only did well before because I was playing against people that weren't too interested in harassing me.

She feels like a weakish hero that could be really awesome if the items you buy fill in the gaps. Problem is, she seems to have a lotta gaps. Earlygame her hp totals suck, so SotM and HotBL seem attractive as first items, but her base damage and mana requirements suck as well, so rushing Sheepstick is very appealing. Mid-Lategame I have a hard time choosing between Behemoth's Heart (to make her tankier and reduce the cooldowns on her spells and sheepstick), and Frostfield Plate (improves tankiness and base damage, spends her excess mana and synergizes with her third skill).

Rushing Frostwolf's Skull after Sheepstick instead of SotM seems like something that might solve a lot of her weaknesses... assuming I could farm it fast enough.

So what do you do and when do you do it?
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
January 02 2010 15:20 GMT
#13956
On January 03 2010 00:05 Judicator wrote:
Chinese DotA is bait the other team into bad team fights and not defend against ganks.


I thought they turtled forever and counterganked with mass TPs (the reason for a lot of the recent nerfs).
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
January 02 2010 16:36 GMT
#13957
On January 02 2010 22:59 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2010 18:12 MYM.Testie wrote:
What does ITT stand for?!

IN THIS TOPIC

noob


in this thread

noob.
and no the two are not the same xD
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
January 02 2010 16:52 GMT
#13958
On January 03 2010 00:20 Tadzio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2010 00:05 Judicator wrote:
Chinese DotA is bait the other team into bad team fights and not defend against ganks.


I thought they turtled forever and counterganked with mass TPs (the reason for a lot of the recent nerfs).


Nope, that's changed, they do very smart team fights offensively but fall into the same dumbshit mistakes when it's used against them.

They can still turtle if they want, but their baiting shit is pretty impressive.

And they ward very late, like Russians ward more than they do against ganking line ups.

And Icefrog's listening to some people who don't have a clue and basing shit off of perceptions, aka the community.
Get it by your hands...
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
January 02 2010 17:08 GMT
#13959
On January 03 2010 00:16 Tadzio wrote:
How do you guys build Wretched Hag? I've done well with her before, but I just played a game that made me think I only did well before because I was playing against people that weren't too interested in harassing me.

She feels like a weakish hero that could be really awesome if the items you buy fill in the gaps. Problem is, she seems to have a lotta gaps. Earlygame her hp totals suck, so SotM and HotBL seem attractive as first items, but her base damage and mana requirements suck as well, so rushing Sheepstick is very appealing. Mid-Lategame I have a hard time choosing between Behemoth's Heart (to make her tankier and reduce the cooldowns on her spells and sheepstick), and Frostfield Plate (improves tankiness and base damage, spends her excess mana and synergizes with her third skill).

Rushing Frostwolf's Skull after Sheepstick instead of SotM seems like something that might solve a lot of her weaknesses... assuming I could farm it fast enough.

So what do you do and when do you do it?


ima get flamed for this but my improvised build is bottle, boot, sotm, finish boots,mana tube, frost plate, and if i have time finish sheepstick
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-02 17:36:46
January 02 2010 17:36 GMT
#13960
fuck fail :/
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