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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-15 19:00:49
September 15 2009 18:52 GMT
#10581
On September 16 2009 03:15 Heen wrote:
Nah, TC and Bat are imba but not to the point that they are nearly autowin. I mean, there've been more imba heroes than them before. Hero imbalances pretty much don't affect low level games. Some korean pubs still autoban kunkka storm lycan (and supposedly it's proz only... LOL)


TC is imba but gankable, teams seem to have gotten use to playing against him, late game though he rips through agility carries better than any other hero.

Bat is just plain stupid, early game chasing him is like chasing a pre-nerf Krob with ghosts out, mid game he just rapes one player silly and everything else is bonus, late game he hits harder than any other spell-based int and drags one person around.

Edit:

On a side note, the KW meme has hit PD.com's forums.
Get it by your hands...
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-15 19:11:46
September 15 2009 19:11 GMT
#10582
On September 16 2009 01:42 Heen wrote:
anyone have suggestions on what heroes are particularly strong/effective vs syllabear? He's just one of those boring heroes I don't pay much attention to lol


Seems to me against sylla what you need is a few heroes that gank well early because if he doesnt get off the ground sylla really sucks. Maybe things like NA and VS. Bane for sleeping bear to focus sylla. I don't know just seems like you don't have to adjust much to counter him, you just have to actively gank him early.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
September 15 2009 20:24 GMT
#10583
pick furion and let nitrogen play against bear with him, autowin yo
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
September 16 2009 02:19 GMT
#10584
MORE LIKE LET DC PLAY BEAR AND LET HIM GET A BASHER ON HIS BEAR WHAT THE FUCK
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
September 16 2009 02:30 GMT
#10585
it's so you can stun them while they're entangled, yo.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-16 11:04:40
September 16 2009 09:42 GMT
#10586
Inspired by how to be pro TDA player video, my friend and I decided to poke fun at bdares aka woobear aka sup!Porter LOL

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090916070408387
('''(G_G/'''')
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
September 17 2009 02:49 GMT
#10587
6.63 is out

Finally some cw, TC and bat nerfs.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
September 17 2009 02:57 GMT
#10588
Bats damage nooooo, free farm any lane any time!!
well sticky still works on creeps I assume so that's still + dmg ;p
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 04:22:22
September 17 2009 03:30 GMT
#10589
thoughts on 6.63

heroes
enchantress' str growth took a major hit (halved). and kotl's illuminate, huge buff (constant distance). lone druid's entangle major nerf (people can attack now). Abba took a pretty big hit, too... deathcoil's castrange was halved... and NA's new manaburn is pretty cool. oooo... major nerf to Mass serpent wards. cd used to be 60sec at level 3, now it's 110sec. Icefrog really wants Silencers to level Curse of the Silent... TC finally got the nerf he needed. Fury swipes got a big buff... ursa's gonna be even better as an earlygame jungler.

items
Bloodstone lost it's +hp regen per charge and reduced it's +mp regen per charge, but you now get a charge for every enemy hero that dies within 1000 rng. Also, on death you heal all your allies within 1700 rng by 400+(25xcharge) and lose HALF your charges instead of just 1. This changes the reason to get bloodstone considerably. It no longer has the potential of breaking a game by making a fed hero immortal, and at certain times it may be wise to suicide with a hero that has many charges on his bloodstone. Definitely changes the game... the heroes that got bloodstone as core may need to rethink whether it still fills their needs, and more support heroes may want to consider it.

Heart took a major hit. No longer regens if you've taken damage in the last 10 seconds. Icefrog hates tanks? Lategame heroes are gonna be a lot more fragile now.

Pipe took a pretty big hit, but it was deserved, imo. Can no longer affect the same unit more than once every 50 seconds. So once per team fight, basically.

Mjollnir is no longer an agi hero item and now provides 70 IAS. It's also 800g cheaper.

AND... phase boots no longer gives armor, and now gives atk speed and are slower (60 ms when not phased) and Power treads no longer gives atk speed, gives 10 str, 13 agi, 16 int (depending on type) and 70 ms. Phase boots now cost 1500, and powertreads cost 1400. Boots of travel costs the same, but gives 95 ms. I wonder if people will ever get powertreads again? Maybe the occasional int hero that lacks HP earlygame.

Lotsa changes. http://www.playdota.com/changelogs/6.63
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
September 17 2009 03:36 GMT
#10590
furion is the new king of KS
Hates Fun🤔
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 17 2009 04:35 GMT
#10591
NOOOOO, my Taruen Chieftan .

Looks like most heroes that don't get picked often got buffed, and some of the better picks got nerfed.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
September 17 2009 04:42 GMT
#10592
where to get attack speed now? -_-
Hates Fun🤔
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
September 17 2009 04:46 GMT
#10593
On September 17 2009 13:42 paper wrote:
where to get attack speed now? -_-


phase boots.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
September 17 2009 04:48 GMT
#10594
mask of madness obv
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
September 17 2009 04:49 GMT
#10595
on a related note, queen of pain has an awesome ass
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
September 17 2009 05:14 GMT
#10596
phase boots now gives the same attack speed as old treads
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
September 17 2009 06:00 GMT
#10597
YESSSSSSSS MJOLNIRRRRRRRRRRRR LOLOOLLOOL WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTT


I CAN FINALLY USE IT ON MY FAVORITE STR HEROOOOOOOOOO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
September 17 2009 06:25 GMT
#10598
lol bristle mjol
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Humbug
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States264 Posts
September 17 2009 06:57 GMT
#10599
I think BB had his attack speed bonus removed from Warpath
What is an angel? Show me an angel and I shall paint one
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
September 17 2009 07:19 GMT
#10600
yeah but now he gets bonus damage... not sure if it's as good though, i haven't played the new map yet.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
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