*edit:Sombra origin story (Approximate unofficial release on ptr next week, likely~ November 8th)
I decided to write a thread for discussing the announcements at Blizzcon. Rumour is that 3 things are likely to happen at blizzcon. 1. New game mode. 2. New hero reveal. 3. New overwatch short. I'll give some information regarding each piece.
1. New Game mode. The rumours are that a koth 2 point capture is the new game mode. A map reveal and discussion of this on panels is expected.
2. New hero:
The last hints we have are a rework on symmetra, the leap frog hero which is more about stealing and skipping areas by using the teleporter. The new hero could be Sombra or another hero. The clues given were based off some sombra artwork. The developers were careful to say that one of the heroes is close to ready and the other is far off. It likely given an artwork leak from the blizzard store page that its going to Sombra.
3. New overwatch short. As of yet there is no short on Volskaya. Volskaya is the place where the next steps of the overwatch story plays out. Details about Zarya and Sombra Likely will be the next focus. Volskaya itself has many bits of audio. Which indicate that Volskaya is a place where meching piloted robots, Svyatogors, are made. The map has a restricted access area, and audio that says обнаружено несанкционированное проникновение, система безопасности нарушена, запущен протокол блокировки
Which approximately translates to Unauthorized Access Detected, Security Breach Detected Activating defensive protocol.
------------------------- Competitive discussion ------------------------- Lastly some comments are expected to be made about the competitive arena of overwatch. In general teams that are running more ultimate synergy are beating teams running the aim specific classes. For example, widow which has a weak ultimate may not be as good as running reaper even if dying as reaper, because you can do so more with ultimates. UltWatch season 3 ptr is being tested to see how slower ultimates make the game play out differently.
------------------------------------ Post Stream updates ------------------------------------ *edit: Boop! Official Sombra Short announcing the class. Official Sombra skill page on playoverwatch.
I hope we get some good info about competitive jankeroo. Really irritated with the Sombra stuff though, hopefully they get booed when they come out with that shit after dragging that hype through the mud for months. When Blizzcon gets fake-hacked and they're like "hah we had this ARG but we planned to release Sombra here all along, gotcha", I'll just cringe and die inside. Fuck I'm angry.
I just muted my computer and started. I seriously did not think Blizzard would actually release her .How Blizz handled this whole thing made me almost lose all interest in the game
Off topic but this dude just unironically said Deepmind is to "make the world a better place"... It's almost a meme in Silicon valley and the tech industry now. Stop saying that.
On November 05 2016 03:36 Garrl wrote: developer having ownership of the competitive scene like this is NOT a good thing.
especially blizz, look at how much they fucked over bw and more recently sc2.
Yeah. I believe how Valve handles the Dota scene is much better. They organize the main events of the year (The International and Majors), but otherwise lets community do it's thing.
On November 05 2016 03:36 Garrl wrote: developer having ownership of the competitive scene like this is NOT a good thing.
especially blizz, look at how much they fucked over bw and more recently sc2.
I agree wholeheartedly... biggest example of devs interference (or complete control over) an esports scene is Riot... and the cult of Riot is not an enviable thing. Underpaid talent, broadcasting rights not being valued properly preventing growth of the scene.
Going to make a loose equivalency but if the ARG is not an indication of Blizzard's inability to manage shit, I don't know what is. I wish they'd stick to making games and maybe give some money. Let the pros manage teams and tournaments and broadcast talent.
Watching some Sombra gameplay and it looks like she's going to super hard counter Tracer to the point where I don't see how Tracer will be able to ever survive that... The "hack" ability is a 0 skill thing where if you right click in the general direction of your target you'll disable their abilities. Tracer without her abilities is super fucking dead 90% of the time.
On November 05 2016 04:19 Grettin wrote: Yeah, that base dmg of the main weapon isn't powerful at all..
Fuck me
I saw her kill a Zen in what seemed to be half a clip... plus she has 2 escapes, one of which is super low cooldown (like 6 seconds??? holy shit).
I'm terrified... This may make my favorite character completely unplayable. Like being hacked is almost as much a death sentence as getting shot in the head by Widowmaker... I'll have to see how it plays out but I expect a lot of frustration :/
Edit: Looks like it may be manageable actually. The hacking "channeling" seems to take a not insignificant amount of time.
On November 05 2016 04:22 FeyFey wrote: uhu Tracer the character that can self cure, is countered by a channel ability. I'll stick to the Icicle one shot.
Yeah I thought the channel was much faster and unavoidable. So I thought I'd just get left clicked and then I'd be a sitting duck. But now I'm seeing I just need to not be in the fairly short "hacking" range and I can probably dash out of range easily unless I mismanage my stuff.
But yeah at first I was thinking hack was instant or guaranteed once it started. If it had been that it would have been more annoying than Mei's popsicles to the head. Mei has to aim so whenever I get 1shot by her I can appreciate the marksmanship.
Edit: Ugh, does seem like the channel range is a bit long and it tracks through walls... spooky af... It may still be hard to avoid.
It will be tough for Mei, as she will have to use Ice Wall or Iceblock early. But yah if ptr goes through I will be playing D.Va. Finally you can bump people and then shoot them down. Sombra will be pretty awesome at hunting supports though. Even Lucio might be in trouble, who usually can outplay any solo flanker easily.
She looks like she'll be a lot of fun to play with a high skill ceiling but she'll make other people's life hell... That magazine just never ends -_- holy shit
On November 05 2016 04:40 Djzapz wrote: She looks like she'll be a lot of fun to play with a high skill ceiling but she'll make other people's life hell... That magazine just never ends -_- holy shit
Very surprised that she seem to have longer range, similar fire rate and same if not better damage as Tracer's guns and 60/60 magazine..
On November 05 2016 04:42 WolfintheSheep wrote: Looks like she'll play like Tracer a lot, built for in-and-out and harass. Just with a tank breaking ult.
Maybe my new main heuheuheu!... Nawh I'm too dumb to manage all this shit. I'll try tho. My semi decent ability to track my target will come in handy.
On November 05 2016 04:46 FeyFey wrote: Sombra can't poke like Tracer though. She either finishes the job or nothing.
She's differently able! She can poke in a more organized way if her portal thing allows her to do damage after her escape. And if she's still compromised she can go invis and at the end of that she can teleport again.
So you could: run in, poke, teleport, poke, invis, throw portal, poke, teleport. Seems like she'd be really hard to kill when played well.
On November 05 2016 04:46 FeyFey wrote: Sombra can't poke like Tracer though. She either finishes the job or nothing.
She's differently able! She can poke in a more organized way if her portal thing allows her to do damage after her escape. And if she's still compromised she can go invis and at the end of that she can teleport again.
So you could: run in, poke, teleport, poke, invis, throw portal, poke, teleport. Seems like she'd be really hard to kill when played well.
Biggest issue she'll have is having left click as her only damage.
Don't get me wrong, ult ruining tanks and stopping abilities is huge. But when you're taking up a DPS slot with low DPS, that feels like it'll be a problem.
But maybe being a near-instant Tank breaker will mess with the double/triple tank meta a bit, so who knows.
On November 05 2016 04:46 FeyFey wrote: Sombra can't poke like Tracer though. She either finishes the job or nothing.
She's differently able! She can poke in a more organized way if her portal thing allows her to do damage after her escape. And if she's still compromised she can go invis and at the end of that she can teleport again.
So you could: run in, poke, teleport, poke, invis, throw portal, poke, teleport. Seems like she'd be really hard to kill when played well.
Biggest issue she'll have is having left click as her only damage.
Don't get me wrong, ult ruining tanks and stopping abilities is huge. But when you're taking up a DPS slot with low DPS, that feels like it'll be a problem.
But maybe being a near-instant Tank breaker will mess with the double/triple tank meta a bit, so who knows.
I think she'll do a surprising amount of damage with her LMB. She's like a support-ish tracer and what she'll lose in dmg she'll make up for in intangibles and disruption. And her ultimate may very well be better than tracer in this meta where Rein's shield are often needed to stop pushes.
I think in Overwatch, the invis is more of a going in instead of an escape. I feel confident enough to still land shots on a hero that went invisible a few moments before. And then there is a chance you have Lucio/Reaper/D.Va on the opposing team.
But the personal teleporter grenade will allow for alot of nice moves.
Wonder how loud her footsteps will be for supports. Maybe reaper level for tanks lol.
On November 05 2016 06:08 FeyFey wrote: I think in Overwatch, the invis is more of a going in instead of an escape. I feel confident enough to still land shots on a hero that went invisible a few moments before. And then there is a chance you have Lucio/Reaper/D.Va on the opposing team.
But the personal teleporter grenade will allow for alot of nice moves.
You're probably right, against most enemies you won't get the luxury of using invis as an escape, but it still could work in some cases but you can't rely on it.
Los Muertos had Omnics in their gang at some time okay, I am confused now ! (seen in sombra origin story) Edit: figured it out, the bot got all the girls *nods*
I'm really glad with the new informaiton. I cannot wait for some 1v1 maps. I loved the Sombra Short and am glad to see it tie into the long term hints from the parts of the arg. It appears that the progression is as follows.
Nov 4th- Unity day (russian holiday) Volskaya short.
Approximate Blizzard Timeline- Next week nov~8th-12th - Sombra, Antarctica map (1v1) (3v3) and arcade on ptr. Nov 25thish- Christmas skins and christmas theme'd maps. December 15th-20th, Oasis map.
On November 07 2016 02:18 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: christmas loot should be interesting. i hope mercy gets a sexy elf skin... still bitter i didn't get sexy witch Mercy
Doubt they'll double up on event Legendaries this soon.
Winston, Mei and probably Sombra don't have any event skins yet.
On November 07 2016 02:18 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: christmas loot should be interesting. i hope mercy gets a sexy elf skin... still bitter i didn't get sexy witch Mercy
Doubt they'll double up on event Legendaries this soon.
Winston, Mei and probably Sombra don't have any event skins yet.
I could definitely see Winston and Mei getting winter skins yeah.
Well yeah mei for sure, Winston might get a santa skin, but honestly a big red suit? its like a big sign saying "INCOMING". would make him way to noticeable.
Well i guess a widow elf skin would be cool, I just can't get into widowmaker. that blue skin color creeps me out. I won't play widow jsut because of that.
On November 07 2016 09:03 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: Well yeah mei for sure, Winston might get a santa skin, but honestly a big red suit? its like a big sign saying "INCOMING". would make him way to noticeable.
Well i guess a widow elf skin would be cool, I just can't get into widowmaker. that blue skin color creeps me out. I won't play widow jsut because of that.
You obviously haven't seen Winston's Orange scuba suit yet.
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