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Hutchinson
Profile Joined August 2016
2 Posts
August 08 2016 13:46 GMT
#1221
I'm all night catch pokemons)))
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 15:31:13
August 08 2016 14:54 GMT
#1222
On August 08 2016 21:07 H8 wrote:
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On August 08 2016 17:49 Laurens wrote:
They're shutting down everything that attempts to scrape their servers, PokeAdvisor is no exception.

You can still check it yourself by entering 3 values, if that's not too much effort..


If the results were 100% accurate, this wouldn't be an issue.


It's not that big of a deal if you keep around some pokemon of different levels. Anytime there are two possible levels you can just compare the pokemon to one of a known level.

In terms of the fluctuation for a given level... it's typically like 5 percentage points at most and there's almost 0 cases where you're comparing two pokemon that are within each other's margin of error. If you are really min/maxing to that degree all you actually care about is 100 & not 100 then...
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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 08 2016 16:27 GMT
#1223
On August 08 2016 13:59 dAPhREAk wrote:
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On August 08 2016 13:51 Terranasaur wrote:
On August 08 2016 13:45 dAPhREAk wrote:
been gone a week. anything interesting happen?


They changed the API to break bots and maps... and then 2 days later the Dev community figured a way around the block and they're back online now...

so what are the go to sites now, or is it that server you set up on your own computer?


I'm not aware of anyone setting up a site for public use... Seems to me that is just begging for a C&D.

I've got a map set up on my own server. But... with the decreased scan radius and rate limiting, its not as useful as it once was. Can only scan a very limited area.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 17:22:26
August 08 2016 16:52 GMT
#1224
On August 09 2016 01:27 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2016 13:59 dAPhREAk wrote:
On August 08 2016 13:51 Terranasaur wrote:
On August 08 2016 13:45 dAPhREAk wrote:
been gone a week. anything interesting happen?


They changed the API to break bots and maps... and then 2 days later the Dev community figured a way around the block and they're back online now...

so what are the go to sites now, or is it that server you set up on your own computer?


I'm not aware of anyone setting up a site for public use... Seems to me that is just begging for a C&D.

I've got a map set up on my own server. But... with the decreased scan radius and rate limiting, its not as useful as it once was. Can only scan a very limited area.

Been unable to find where to dl these things. I would like to get a desktop scanner working
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 17:04:12
August 08 2016 17:02 GMT
#1225
There's a public scanner for my area that's struggling to stay up, but it's also not 100% accurate in that there are pokemon that don't appear on there. There's a spawn by where I live that spawns at :38 or so every hour and it never appears on the scanner. Still the scanner helped me catch a porygon today so I can't fault it too much.

Honestly if you get a scanner setup the thing you should really be trying to do is figure out some of your local spawn patterns and stuff. Like I'm keeping an eye on a nearby diglett spawn to gauge it's frequency so I can go farm it some day (turns out it's pretty regular)
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 18:39:43
August 08 2016 18:39 GMT
#1226
Wrong thread!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 08 2016 19:40 GMT
#1227
On August 09 2016 02:02 Logo wrote:
There's a public scanner for my area that's struggling to stay up, but it's also not 100% accurate in that there are pokemon that don't appear on there. There's a spawn by where I live that spawns at :38 or so every hour and it never appears on the scanner. Still the scanner helped me catch a porygon today so I can't fault it too much.

Honestly if you get a scanner setup the thing you should really be trying to do is figure out some of your local spawn patterns and stuff. Like I'm keeping an eye on a nearby diglett spawn to gauge it's frequency so I can go farm it some day (turns out it's pretty regular)



This is good advice. I've mapped the spawn times near my house and work so I've gotten in to a pretty regular routine of snagging some pokes.

I kind of feel like the spreadsheets are waaayy off when it comes to Gym battles. I've had a lot of luck with a couple specific Pokes punching way above their weight while training at gyms that are considered garbage tier by the spreadsheets.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 20:05:13
August 08 2016 20:04 GMT
#1228
There's a lot the spreadsheets don't account for. For example some specials (including many full bar ones which are good on paper) are easily dodged compared to 'weaker' alternatives.

They also don't account for type bonuses. For a lot of moves it actually (unfortunately) doesn't matter much because the DPS of the various moves is so far apart, but for other moves it can tip the punching weight of the pokemon pretty well.

Sometimes though it just doesn't matter... Some pokemon just have too low HP to reliably fight (looking at you Kingler & Magneton).
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
August 08 2016 20:15 GMT
#1229
On August 09 2016 05:04 Logo wrote:
Sometimes though it just doesn't matter... Some pokemon just have too low HP to reliably fight (looking at you Kingler & Magneton).

Before I got the game I was gonna try my best to grind out a good Magneton because I hoped he would be middle of the road good. Steel/Electric is a great typing for Kanto so reasonable stats would have been great for it. Shame his HP is just so bad
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
August 08 2016 20:15 GMT
#1230
On August 09 2016 05:15 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 05:04 Logo wrote:
Sometimes though it just doesn't matter... Some pokemon just have too low HP to reliably fight (looking at you Kingler & Magneton).

Before I got the game I was gonna try my best to grind out a good Magneton because I hoped he would be middle of the road good. Steel/Electric is a great typing for Kanto so reasonable stats would have been great for it. Shame his HP is just so bad



I know, even when the game came out I really wanted to do the same. Then I made a Jolteon and saw just how bad bad hp is in this game. But I have hope for a rebalancing since they did it to the moves.
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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 08 2016 20:21 GMT
#1231
On August 09 2016 05:04 Logo wrote:
There's a lot the spreadsheets don't account for. For example some specials (including many full bar ones which are good on paper) are easily dodged compared to 'weaker' alternatives.

They also don't account for type bonuses. For a lot of moves it actually (unfortunately) doesn't matter much because the DPS of the various moves is so far apart, but for other moves it can tip the punching weight of the pokemon pretty well.

Sometimes though it just doesn't matter... Some pokemon just have too low HP to reliably fight (looking at you Kingler & Magneton).



All great points.

I just kicked the shit out of a 1100 Electabuzz with a 850 Cubone while training up a Gym. I was finishing each battle in the green. It was crazy. Type advantage isn't everything in this game, but it counts for a lot, especially when training gyms.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
August 08 2016 20:42 GMT
#1232
Just had a wild snorlax appear but I was busy catching pidgeys/weedles before that and only had 1 normal pokeball. Of course I throw it and miss, even though snorlax is fat as hell and covers half the screen. I waited a few minutes for my pokestop to recover but he was gone by then. Now I know how @Darkplasmaball feels
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12883 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 21:24:29
August 08 2016 20:58 GMT
#1233
On August 09 2016 05:04 Logo wrote:
There's a lot the spreadsheets don't account for. For example some specials (including many full bar ones which are good on paper) are easily dodged compared to 'weaker' alternatives.

They also don't account for type bonuses. For a lot of moves it actually (unfortunately) doesn't matter much because the DPS of the various moves is so far apart, but for other moves it can tip the punching weight of the pokemon pretty well.

Sometimes though it just doesn't matter... Some pokemon just have too low HP to reliably fight (looking at you Kingler & Magneton).

They do account for type bonus.
Source: http://www.pokemongodb.net/2016/05/dragonite.html
Dragon claw is better than hyper beam only if STAB (same type attack bonus) is active, and https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/4vx729/pokemon_rankings_cheat_sheets_gym_offense_gym/ there dragon claw is shown as a better special move, so they indeed follow type bonus.
WriterMaru
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 21:38:34
August 08 2016 21:33 GMT
#1234
STAB is not the type bonus we're talking about though. We're talking about actual type bonus (Super Effective/Not very effective). STAB is important, but it's consistent so yeah when they account for it it's always right.

So in that example Hyperbeam is once again better if you're fighting Fairy or Steel (not the most practical in this case, but sometimes it is).

Also I think this list: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/4wodzk/optimal_movesets_v21/ is more comprehensive.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
August 08 2016 22:27 GMT
#1235
Amazing new feature for the pokemon tracker....they added grass behind the pokemon.

Niantic really know what we want.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
August 08 2016 22:35 GMT
#1236
On August 09 2016 07:27 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Amazing new feature for the pokemon tracker....they added grass behind the pokemon.

Niantic really know what we want.

How the hell did they know that's what we wanted...wtf niantic...idiots...
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 08 2016 23:20 GMT
#1237
After some testing, it appears that the changing nearby to sightings with a grass patch background didn't actually change anything. What did change is that your nearby list is constantly refreshing so that pokemon that are gone no longer appear on the list. This is probably a placeholder until a real tracking feature is completed.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 23:46:47
August 08 2016 23:26 GMT
#1238
Another great feature this patch added is the game loses network connection randomly for no reason.

Was checking IVs of pokemon and saw my level 19 oddish is 14/15/14 or 15/14/14. I really hope it gets a pair of Grass moves when I finally get enough candy to make a Vileplume. Need a good attacker for taking down the many many water types flooding my gyms
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12883 Posts
August 08 2016 23:44 GMT
#1239
Wow such amazing patch!
Now if only my phone would work properly with the game, parks could be fun and bring a ton of XP.

Too bad for Pokeadvisor, it becomes hard to know which pokemons to throw or not throw...
WriterMaru
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
August 09 2016 00:20 GMT
#1240
On August 09 2016 07:35 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 07:27 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Amazing new feature for the pokemon tracker....they added grass behind the pokemon.

Niantic really know what we want.

How the hell did they know that's what we wanted...wtf niantic...idiots...


Did you really think he was being serious.



Patch Notes -

ANDROID WHAT'S NEW

Added a dialog to remind Trainers that they should not play while traveling above a certain speed; Trainers will have to indicate they aren’t the driver
Fixed a bug that prevented ”Nice,” ”Great,” and “Excellent” Poké Ball throws from awarding the appropriate XP bonuses
Enabled the ability for Trainers to change their nickname one time, so please choose your new nickname wisely
Resolved issues with the battery saver mode on iOS and re-enabled the feature
Other fixes
APPLE WHAT'S NEW

Added a dialog to remind Trainers that they should not play while traveling above a certain speed. Trainers must confirm they are not driving in order to continue playing
Made improvements to the accuracy of a curveball throw
Fixed a bug that prevented ”Nice,” ”Great,” and “Excellent” Poké Ball throws from awarding the appropriate experience bonuses
Fixed achievements showing incorrect Medal icons
Enabled the ability for Trainers to change their nickname one time, so please choose your new nickname wisely
Resolved issues with the battery saver mode and re-enabled this feature
Added visuals of Team leaders - Candela, Blanche and Spark
We're currently testing a variation of the "Nearby Pokémon" feature with a subset of users. During this period you may see some variation in the nearby Pokémon UI.
Minor text fixes
Undocumented Changes

Sightings feature renamed. Grass added.
Major Text Changes



Folks jump to outrage far, far too quickly. Updating is a good thing. Just cause they didn't bring you Christmas doesn't mean they aren't working.
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