Cities: Skylines

On March 11 2015 01:26 ZasZ. wrote:
Surprised there wasn't a thread for this. Was thinking about making one myself but glad you got around to it.

On March 12 2015 05:45 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah this game's success makes a huge statement about how effective twitch advertising is.

On March 12 2015 05:45 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah this game's success makes a huge statement about how effective twitch advertising is.

On March 11 2015 01:18 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Could this be the best city builder game since Simcity 4?

On March 12 2015 06:07 LaNague wrote:
i found several crippling flaws in the simulation, read and you will possibly destroy your enjoyment of the game
This game isnt that great yet.

+ Show Spoiler +


Good news is that anything involving FREIGHT works flawlessly from what i can tell.
So its a design decision to have the people simulation being all fluff and no substance.
So they either have to add the possibility to add consequences for bad city management or fix it themselves.



Overall, the game is very easy even without abusing the simulation, i hope substance will get added because the whole traffic management is a pretty good base for a game.

On March 13 2015 00:08 KaiserJohan wrote:


This sounds very disheartening, if commuting/traffic is as pointless as you say.

Also I enjoyed the difficulty and min/maxing of the older Caesar/Pharaoh/Zeus games. Is this game too easy? Is there no punishment for failing?

On March 12 2015 06:07 LaNague wrote:
i found several crippling flaws in the simulation, read and you will possibly destroy your enjoyment of the game
This game isnt that great yet.

+ Show Spoiler +


Good news is that anything involving FREIGHT works flawlessly from what i can tell.
So its a design decision to have the people simulation being all fluff and no substance.
So they either have to add the possibility to add consequences for bad city management or fix it themselves.



Overall, the game is very easy even without abusing the simulation, i hope substance will get added because the whole traffic management is a pretty good base for a game.

On March 13 2015 01:10 Yhamm wrote:
really good game, though they could improve the construction of roads

I find it really weird too that bus lines must make a full circle and can't go from point A to point B

On March 13 2015 01:21 Gorsameth wrote:

At some point a bus must always go back to A so I don't see how any bus line can not be circular.

On March 12 2015 06:07 LaNague wrote:
i found several crippling flaws in the simulation, read and you will possibly destroy your enjoyment of the game
This game isnt that great yet.

+ Show Spoiler +


Good news is that anything involving FREIGHT works flawlessly from what i can tell.
So its a design decision to have the people simulation being all fluff and no substance.
So they either have to add the possibility to add consequences for bad city management or fix it themselves.



Overall, the game is very easy even without abusing the simulation, i hope substance will get added because the whole traffic management is a pretty good base for a game.

On March 13 2015 01:24 Yhamm wrote:

roads are not all in 1 way?

or can you actually make them go back by the same road? I didn't try that...

On March 13 2015 01:36 Vaelone wrote:


They can take the same road if it's 2-way, have you never used local buses in real life? Works the same way here.

But yeah making my first bus lines was a good wake up call to what a mess my traffic system was.

On March 13 2015 03:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Looks like really good game. I might buy it when I have money

On March 13 2015 00:36 Chro wrote:


Unsure why this is a big deal, it reminds me of people complaining in skyrim that you can do an infinite loop of making potions to make your enchanting better so you can make better alchemy enchantments on armor and just get insane +% with potions and gear.

Its only an issue if you, as a player, exploit it. If you worry about traffic just as much and keep on fixing it so it works correctly then its a non-issue. Its not like you can 'win' at this game anyways. You're only cheating to make your city better for.... no idea. So you feel like you beat the game or something?

On March 13 2015 04:35 SixStrings wrote:
Is there a game like this that takes places in the middle ages or antiquity?

On March 13 2015 04:53 LaNague wrote:



commute times have zero effect, thats what this results into when you dont intentionally exploit.
Which is weak for a game that claims to simulate individual people.

On March 13 2015 04:53 LaNague wrote:



commute times have zero effect, thats what this results into when you dont intentionally exploit.
Which is weak for a game that claims to simulate individual people.

On March 13 2015 02:08 ragz_gt wrote:
In Murica, bus routes generally only go 1 way (partly because there are many one way roads). When take a bus to A to B it might take 10 min but from B to A it might take 45 min, and if it's not circular you gonna end up with a bunch buses at middle of nowhere.

On March 13 2015 05:05 Gorsameth wrote:

a dev explained it on the forum.Linky

Basically there is a hard limit of 65k people on the road at any time for performance reasons. This means they cannot guarantee that every citizen will go to their workplace on a regular basis. Hence why there is no real penalty to not having a home/work connection.

On March 12 2015 06:07 LaNague wrote:
Buildings upgrade simply based on the number of service buidlings in the area, it can be 5 useless hospitals in a row, or 5 schools to upgrade an industrial area.

I have the suspicion they did this because upgrading based on landvalue/education and services would mean everyone always has max upgrades because the game is weay too easy.

On March 13 2015 05:00 Don_Julio wrote:

Banished comes pretty close but it's more a village builder not a city builder. Other than that maybe Stronghold but it's mostly combat focused. For antiquity the good, old Caesar games. Maybe someone creates a full-conversion mod for C:S.


I kind of agree with their design decision. Citizens getting stuck in the traffic for infinite time could totally ruin a city if you had just a single jammed spot. Traffic jams still have severe negative effects: Your service cars get stuck and goods won't arrive at stores and industry which will result in abandoned and burned down buildings. It's a fair copromise. Traffic is important and quite a challenge to manage.

On March 13 2015 10:53 SixStrings wrote:


Thanks for your recommendation, but alas, Banished was a matter of three hours until I had a perfect, self-sustaining society and a full tech tree. Beautiful game otherwise.

On March 13 2015 00:45 BurningSera wrote:
god i am getting this after work today. been nearly a decade for a proper city builder ffs

On March 13 2015 04:35 SixStrings wrote:
Is there a game like this that takes places in the middle ages or antiquity?

On March 14 2015 05:10 GrandInquisitor wrote:
You seem so mad about this. Simcity games are a creative outlet for me, not a form of competition. It's like telling people that drawing is "broken gg sry" because you can trace someone else's pictures.

It'd be nice if they addressed this, but it's just not that concerning compared to an equivalent bug in League of Legends or some other competitive game.

On March 14 2015 05:20 Antisocialmunky wrote:
I can appreciate your PoV, GrandInquisitor, but a lot of people like myself have been waiting for a properly challenging and not-broken challenging mayor-Sim with depth for more than a decade. SimCity 4 and the Tilted Mill games were the last really great ones of the genre.

It really is quite disappointing. :|

On March 14 2015 05:20 Antisocialmunky wrote:
I can appreciate your PoV, GrandInquisitor, but a lot of people like myself have been waiting for a properly challenging and not-broken challenging mayor-Sim with depth for more than a decade. SimCity 4 and the Tilted Mill games were the last really great ones of the genre.

It really is quite disappointing. :|

On March 14 2015 05:29 LaNague wrote:
well its nice you have, but when i play this game, every few hours i come across a bug that kills my onjoyment.


I was planning all those nice roads and stuff to make my communte faster, but that just has no result except losing more money.
Then i tried out public transport and discovered that bus stops are blackholes that suck in people and clean the streets of them.
Then i wondered why my industry park isnt leveling up and discovered i just have to mindlessly plop down fire stations around it and it will go max level.
Then i made a new city and after an hour i wondered why my commercial demand is zero, it rurns out all monuments and parks reduce commercial demand because their visitor spaces counts as commercial shop space.

So, every time i try to build a nice little realistic town, the bugs/design choices come in and totally squash me and FORCE me to play gamey when i try to do the opposite.
I cant have any commercial if i build a nice little town for example.



Thats why i am angry, not because i want a competetive game, i want to build a nice little realistic town, but i can not do so. Its basically the opposite of what you accuse me of.
I cant build a town just like i could not in simcity.



the picture/savegame shows off broken simulation, it was puit together quickly to show what an "optimal" city would look like with this kind of simulation, just like the "optimal" simcity2013 city was all commercial no traffic.
It tells something about the simulation and what it steers players towards.

On March 14 2015 07:43 11cc wrote:
Of course the simulation will never be perfect, but if "parks create negative commercial demand" as LaNague said is true, it's a legitimate and unnecessary issue that should be patched as with any similar stupidities.

I've really had a great time with this game so far, very addictive. First city builder I've played in a long time.

On March 13 2015 05:05 Gorsameth wrote:

a dev explained it on the forum.Linky

Basically there is a hard limit of 65k people on the road at any time for performance reasons. This means they cannot guarantee that every citizen will go to their workplace on a regular basis. Hence why there is no real penalty to not having a home/work connection.

Doesn't that mean traffic will automatically become better in a huge city, since when you hit 65k and keep growing traffic density will always go down?

On March 14 2015 08:09 hugman wrote:


Doesn't that mean traffic will automatically become better in a huge city, since when you hit 65k and keep growing traffic density will always go down?

On March 14 2015 13:46 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Seems like another forgettable game that's not for me then.

On March 14 2015 14:16 DannyJ wrote:
Thank god I realized you could change the colors of individual mass transit lines. My brother and I just had fun for hours doing nothing but putting optimal bus and subway lines in my city. They mass transit view is now basically just my default view i like it so much. There's something so satisfying about seeing those little colorful people getting on and off those little colorful buses...

On March 14 2015 21:53 Gorsameth wrote:

How do you do it for the metro? I figured out buses but I never discovered how to select a subway line.

On March 14 2015 07:42 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Anno 1404 is actually the closest game to the old Tilted Mill style games (I think it is even better than the futuristic one). Tropico is not bad either. However they don't have the same feel as the old style City Builder Games I think. I'm not sure but I think the main issue I have are that the newer games feel more sandboxy in that the cities you build have less character.

Basically, the problem I see is that your cities all end up looking/optimizing the same way because the games tend towards favoring generalist cities. This reduces re-playability for me. Once I get the optimal city, then that's really it. It isn't like say Pharoah where you are founding a gem colony to produce luxury goods while getting constantly raided by barbarians. Or in SimCity 4 where you create a small city next to a big city to provide services to the big city.

On March 15 2015 03:04 ticklishmusic wrote:
Having a lot of fun, gotten 2 cities to 100k then kinda stalled out.

What are some good ways to avoid traffic? I've been trying doing districts with one big outer one way road connected to main roads which has helped some. These dead bodies keep piling up no matter what I do it seems.

What are some good ways to get nice looking curved roads (like parallel ones and stuff).

Any point in setting zoning regulations? Anyone play around with taxes?

On March 14 2015 08:15 LaNague wrote:
i have been banned from the cities discussion for my "negativity" when all i did was point out to people with city issues which bug affected them.

My respect for this developer is nearing about zero.



For the workers, my proposition was to add negative impact to the workers who are actually late/dont arrive, this completely avoids issues with the 65k cap.

We all can just wait and look what the patches bring and if the devs are willing to fix any simulation issues.



Btw i am pretty sure the sample city had negative balannce because it used no tayxes for the sake of building up faster.






65k is the number of people out of buildings at a time, not sure what the average percentage of people outside of buildings is, but there is a cap where it gets easier.

On March 15 2015 04:56 Don_Julio wrote:
There's a mod that disables the despawning of cars btw: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=407335588


Public transport. Pedestrian paths. As few intersections as possible. Go from small to medium to large roads. Don't connect your small ones to the big traffic backbones. This might help as well if your cars pile up in a single lane all the time: http://i.imgur.com/F8eKjp5.jpg

I haven't played around with policies much other than the ones that raise land value. Money isn't a problem after a certain point at normal difficulty and traffic manages itself if you make use of a smart road layout.

On March 15 2015 15:50 CorsairHero wrote:
glad i didnt get simcity
can't wait for this to go on steam sale!

On March 15 2015 15:00 batsnacks wrote:
I figured out a good exploit. If you rack up 10k in debt at the beginning of the game you get offered "bailout" which is pretty much 50k money for free. I usually start a game building a coal mine, water pump, water drain, lots of roads, then let my debt build up to 10k before I start zoning.

A free 50k, in addition to the normal starting capital, at the beginning is huge. It's possible to max out the first playable area very quickly.

This is a section of a 50k population city I made using only roundabouts with this strat:
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 15 2015 18:24 Kaneh wrote:


did you know there's a mod included in the base game that give you unlimited money? its easier than using this 'exploit' which isnt' an exploit at all since both just turn off achievements.

On March 16 2015 02:48 Don_Julio wrote:
3: You can change the colour of routes if you click on the route or vehicle in the traffic infoview. You also get stats if you click on the route.
For most of the other stuff there are mods available or under way. Check the Steam workshop or browse http://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylinesModding and http://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines
The amount of mods that exist only one week after release is simply imcredible.

On March 16 2015 02:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
For #4, I think pedestrian paths make it so you can stick parks wherever.

On March 16 2015 01:26 Xapti wrote:
2. Related to #1, no special attributes customizable for road sections such as no right/left turns, no U-turns, no traffic signals. Optionally even individual lane customization (namely turning) would be really useful, although probably more work than the previous.

On March 16 2015 14:24 jinorazi wrote:
edit: i think its education, i have 1% uneducated...

On March 16 2015 16:10 ViperPL wrote:


I had similar problem, not enough uneducated workers to work in industry so I just closed some schools and left one open. That way I have enough workforce in all categories. It's really annoying that cims will travel all across whole city if you have public transport, to get educated, so the only way to control that is to reduce the available schools.

On March 17 2015 01:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
I've started almost exclusively using one way streets-- shame they don't have any one way two laners, I don't understand why. It makes traffic flow much, much better.

On March 17 2015 03:03 Gorsameth wrote:
Yeah I would really like a 3 or 4 lane, one way road that is not a highway

On March 17 2015 08:38 jinorazi wrote:
have you guys find a way to overflow with cash?

like in simsity, i had 4 computer plants working and i was never able to spend more than i can make. anything of such discovered in this game?

just surviving off of tax and stuff is so mediocre for my corrupt mayor ego.

On March 17 2015 06:47 Yhamm wrote:
I have no idea how the dam is supposed to work
When I build it, it says something like "estimated power output: 460W"
I accept, then wait, and wait, and wait... water level is increasing, a lot, flood some part of my city, flood some forest and highway... and for a long time the output was... 0W.
after even a longer time, when it seemed the water lvl stop increasing, I saw the power at max around 90W but now, for some reason, it's back at 0W

in the end, I just built an other oil central :|

On March 17 2015 08:45 Gorsameth wrote:

if you want to abuse just use the infinity money mod?
Or make a stable city and let it run for a few hours.

On March 17 2015 09:46 Thalandros wrote:
Would you guys say it's full price? I don't usually play single player games that long anyway, that's why I usually hold off on buying AAA games on launch. Is this game worth the €30 in you guys' opinion?

On March 17 2015 08:38 jinorazi wrote:
have you guys find a way to overflow with cash?

like in simsity, i had 4 computer plants working and i was never able to spend more than i can make. anything of such discovered in this game?

just surviving off of tax and stuff is so mediocre for my corrupt mayor ego.

On March 17 2015 11:15 LaNague wrote:
game needs patches right now, you dont miss out when you are waiting.






If your city is stalling, did you try delete parks? Because of the bug it will increase commercial demand, which will increase industry demand, which will increase worker demand.

On March 17 2015 12:23 ZasZ. wrote:


Game is still a lot of fun even prior to the upcoming fixes. Telling people they won't miss out is disingenuous. If people are craving a zen city-builder and have $30 to spare, there is no reason not to pick it up now.

On March 17 2015 09:46 Thalandros wrote:
Would you guys say it's full price? I don't usually play single player games that long anyway, that's why I usually hold off on buying AAA games on launch. Is this game worth the €30 in you guys' opinion?

On March 18 2015 01:55 KaiserJohan wrote:
After having played quite abit, I can conclude this is a sandbox, not a game. It's virtually impossible to go negative cash flow and there simply isn't any challenge to be had. It's like you are playing "Very easy". A shame :/

On March 18 2015 01:55 KaiserJohan wrote:
After having played quite abit, I can conclude this is a sandbox, not a game. It's virtually impossible to go negative cash flow and there simply isn't any challenge to be had. It's like you are playing "Very easy". A shame :/

On March 18 2015 02:29 ZasZ. wrote:


Why is a "sandbox" not a game? I agree that there is little challenge, but that hardly makes it any less of a game. It looks like you didn't do your research if you went in expecting and craving a challenge.

On March 18 2015 05:04 MrCon wrote:
It's not the same dev as cities XL or XXL. It's a new franchise by the dev of crusader kings and heart of iron.

On March 18 2015 04:29 SKC wrote:
Sandbox games are still games. Some are challenging, some not as much. It doesn't really have much to do with difficulty.

On March 18 2015 05:15 Yacobs wrote:


Not to kick off a pointless fight but that is very much open to debate. To some (most?), the word game implies the concept of a goal and a winner/loser.

On March 18 2015 05:07 Yhamm wrote:

what? no
it's the same developper (Colossal Order) than Cities in Motion and Cities in Motion 2

Paradox is the publisher

On March 17 2015 06:47 Yhamm wrote:
I have no idea how the dam is supposed to work
When I build it, it says something like "estimated power output: 460W"
I accept, then wait, and wait, and wait... water level is increasing, a lot, flood some part of my city, flood some forest and highway... and for a long time the output was... 0W.
after even a longer time, when it seemed the water lvl stop increasing, I saw the power at max around 90W but now, for some reason, it's back at 0W

in the end, I just built an other oil central :|

On March 18 2015 08:14 Penev wrote:

That's because you made the dam to high. It should create a lake but not cause a flood. I managed to get a 1150W dam on the "Islands" map on the top left river. This map seems to be made with the dam in mind considering the top left river has high banks.

On March 18 2015 08:18 Yhamm wrote:

I don't think it's too high, but it's pretty large
but even after that, it doesn't even produce 100W while it estimated more than 400
and the other weird part is that the power change all the time, it goes from 20 to 90... I really don't understand this shit

On March 18 2015 08:29 Yhamm wrote:
<Snip pictures>

On March 18 2015 08:37 jinorazi wrote:
i dont think thats a good spot. i've been testing out maps for good dams and dam'ing a river never worked out since the rivers are too shallow. usually the ones with dam'able maps have large basin and depth where water can be stored. and plenty of water source. the water source output varies, some might take forever for the dam to fill and others will be filled quickly.

edit map to make dams work if the conditions aren't there already on a map you like.

On March 18 2015 12:20 Yhamm wrote:
Ok, I reduced the dam, it actually works much better than before and without the flood, so thx!

On March 18 2015 11:22 Disregard wrote:
http://thebests.kotaku.com/the-8-best-cities-skylines-mods-1692018691/ lukeplunkett

Some pretty good mods there. Also downloading new models to diversify your city is great, but one problem will persist like in all City Sims, is the damn traffic will always be a clusterfuck at some point. I guess it is simulating real life problems.

edit: Then again, traffic algorithms are really difficult to write.

Added a wealth counter to residential buildings, every time a worker leaves for work or to shop it goes down, when the worker succeeds in reaching their destination it goes up. Your tax rate affects the amount it goes up by. Needs to pass a threshhold to level up the building, and the building will get abandoned if it gets too low (will show low land value problem).

Click on any residential building to see the wealth level. It will show the (current wealth level) / (wealth level needed to level up)

Made it much more likely for fire to spread.

Made it much harder for traffic to despawn.

Made it much harder for Cims taking public transport to despawn.

Tripled the number of residents who travel to offices.

25% progression milestone cash reward.

Increased construction costs (especially highways, subways, and wonders).

Increased maintenance costs by 40%.

Greatly increased unlock price and allow 25 tiles.

Increased starting funds by 30k.

Increased tax rate effect on happiness.

Workers were less likely to want to go to work when a lot of cars were out, removed this.

Cims live a little longer (more seniors in your city), this should also have the benefit of having less spiky death spikes.

*Note: Because of the way cims decide to use a vehicle or not, some cims will try to walk to work and fail if they are too far away and there is no public transport. So for now public transport is mandatory with this mod (although cims can walk quite far).

Currently, whenever you build several parks or landmarks in the game, your commercial demand will quickly fall. If you build lots of parks, it is very likely that you will have very little to no commercial demand in your city.

This mod aims to fix that problem by removing the impact of parks and special buildings on commercial demand.

As soon as you turn the mod on and load your city, you should see the commercial demand start rising. Be wary of building too many stores with your new found demand, they compete for jobs with the industry and bring in a lot of traffic for goods delieveries.

CO has made an official statement about this problem:
"Originally Posted by Co_Karoliina
We have found the reason for the issue and are trying a few ways of fixing it. If all goes well, there will be a fix very soon! My apologies for this issue slipping past us originally, we are working hard to get it fixed."

On March 22 2015 03:08 Ota Solgryn wrote:
OK! Love this game... But; How do you solve that stupid start with the highway. I always get a big traffic bottleneck on the off ramp or close to it.
Started 4 cities now. And when I get close to 5000-10000 citizens there is a huge ass bottleneck. Sometimes even before....
Halp.

On March 23 2015 06:17 MrCon wrote:
You can also do it the "legit" way

On March 23 2015 22:48 Ota Solgryn wrote:
The more I read about this game and the more I play I have come to the conclusion that this game is actually a traffic sim.
The rest is just there to make it pretty. But still, it's kind of fun.

On March 23 2015 22:48 Ota Solgryn wrote:
The more I read about this game and the more I play I have come to the conclusion that this game is actually a traffic sim.
The rest is just there to make it pretty. But still, it's kind of fun.

On March 23 2015 23:04 QuanticHawk wrote:
I finally broke and bought it... and it chugs on my damn comp . I really only toyed with it for like 20 min and it crashed. But obviously Im gonna drop all the settings and try again. But in that limited time it looked friggin awesome.

On March 23 2015 23:12 GrandInquisitor wrote:

Are you using a laptop? A lot of people report problems where their computer defaults to using integrated graphics, and they go away when they force it to use the GPU instead.

On March 23 2015 23:11 Dangermousecatdog wrote:

More like a traffic sim that doesn't work properly The traffic logic is so very bad and makes no sense.

On March 23 2015 23:11 Dangermousecatdog wrote:

More like a traffic sim that doesn't work properly The traffic logic is so very bad and makes no sense.

On March 23 2015 22:48 Ota Solgryn wrote:
The more I read about this game and the more I play I have come to the conclusion that this game is actually a traffic sim.
The rest is just there to make it pretty. But still, it's kind of fun.

On March 23 2015 23:15 QuanticHawk wrote:

Yup. Lenovo ideapad G510 if specific model makes a difference. I will go poke around when I get home to trouble shoot. I think SimCity 4 had similar issues for laptop user iirc?

also thanks!

On March 24 2015 01:06 Yhamm wrote:
the thing I don't know how to do it to have lvl 3 industries
they always want more services but I don't really know what to give them...

On March 24 2015 02:39 batsnacks wrote:
Do all parks give the same amount of "happiness points?" Or do the more expensive ones give more than the cheap ones?

Do all service buildings give the same amount of "quality points?" e.g. If I build 5 elementary schools in the same area does it give the same land value as 5 universities?

On March 24 2015 12:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
The Eden Project one which gets rid of pollution is pretty good

On March 24 2015 13:35 pachi wrote:
Park Comparison chart from reddit: http://imgur.com/a/XByGU#0

On March 23 2015 23:16 Plansix wrote:

There are some flaws with the AI for sure, but also you should remember that people who drive cars also make no sense. They do stupid shit, don't use all the lanes in the road and are generally idiots. There have been findings with new computer models that providing drivers with fewer lanes makes traffic move faster because people have fewer options to screw up the flow.

Really you just need to keep the cargo trucks out of your city. I saw a cool design where someone used a cargo train line through the center of his city and dropped it all off at a port. It was really impressive.

On March 25 2015 05:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's rubbish and you know it. In real life people use all the lanes in the road if it makes sense to. In real life drivers are almost magnetically pulled to empty lanes; they certainly don't use 1 lane of a 2 lane one way road. In real life, transport planners don't have to make artificial bottlenecks, otherwise drivers will use 2 lanes out of 6 instead of 6 out of 6. In real life, drivers are capable of taking alternative routes when the road ahead is full of traffic, instead of insisting that the shortest route will be the fastest. Most of "traffic problems" in cityskylines consist of figuring out the arcane rules that lorries follow in city skylines, rather than actually folowing real life logic that occurs in reality.

Don't get me wrong, figuring out traffic snarls is part of any city sim, just don't defend it by insisting that real life behaviour follow the city skylines game logic, because it doesn't.

On March 25 2015 05:54 jinorazi wrote:
Using 1 lane problem in game comes from off ramps, which is quiet right. However the there seems to be no concept of 2-3 lane turn intersections. Though the road shows it, ai is oblivious to it.

On March 25 2015 06:21 Gorsameth wrote:

not true actually.
If you have a >1 lane left turn and the following road has an early left & right turn (like an intersection) then both of the original turns should be used.

The traffic really isn't that bad to manage if you keep in mind that the ai will very aggressively sort lanes.
Use both left and right hand turns to make cars properly use all lanes. This extends to Highways, while in reality you will never have a off ramp on the left side of the highway it is something you want to use in this game because of the AI quirks.

On March 25 2015 05:57 Ota Solgryn wrote:


Come to Denmark. Drive somewhere where you have to turn right on a two way lane. Watch as everybody pulls in loooooong before they have to. Watch them go insane if you actually follow the rules and drive in the emtpy lane and then going right when you have to, according to the traffic rules in force.

:D

On March 25 2015 06:42 jinorazi wrote:


From what I see, like 6 lane road right turn into a one way 6 lane, only one lane is used when all 6 should be used, Just Pointing out this isn't the case in the game. As such, everyone hugs one lane for a ramp and cause traffic with other merging lanes trying to get to the left Which is normal by irl standards.

On March 25 2015 07:03 Gorsameth wrote:
To be fair I think a lot of people overuse 6 lane 1-way roads. You need a very good reason to use it imo when a 2-way will probably work just as well. 1-way roads are imo best used as small 2 lane local roads feeding directly to industry buildings and as a 6 lane (tho I would prefer something like 3-4 if they existed) to collect the small local roads, since traffic lights on a 1-way road give more green light time to the lane.

On March 27 2015 02:18 BurningSera wrote:
The game literally has become traffic sim at this stage lol

On March 30 2015 17:44 Torte de Lini wrote:

Any way to make roads parallel? I'm trying to line them up perfectly so squares touches other squares when I create two parallel roads, but I always miss or the game makes open spaces between two streets which I don't want.

On March 30 2015 17:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
Just started playing, played a shitload of Sim City 4, so maybe I'm bitter, but these are the things I can't stand right now:

• I hate how hospitals and fire stations don't have AOE displays, but work depending on your roads and shit. It works planning and spreading out your areas a massive nuisance.
  
  
• Why does Zoning Suck? In SC4, you would make large zone areas and the roads would start themselves so that everyone had road access. Not in this game.
  
  
• Small thing, but when I click on a road, I wish it didn't assume I want to make another road after. Always gotta press ESC just to cancel another construction of road.
  
  
• Any way to make roads parallel? I'm trying to line them up perfectly so squares touches other squares when I create two parallel roads, but I always miss or the game makes open spaces between two streets which I don't want.

Other than that, I enjoy the game for what it is, a different take on the City Simulation genre, I think a lot of what they did was take SC4 and went further and focused on what really mattered.

On March 30 2015 23:00 ragz_gt wrote:


To make parallel road you make a perpendicular road to use as a guide, then remove it later. Same way you can make 45 angle road, center a roadabout and a ton of other stuff.

The UI is very clunky, but you get used to it after a while (not that it ever stop being annoying, like modify a public trans route). Most of the time in game you are spent planning on road structure and how to funnel everything to highway.

On March 30 2015 23:44 Grumbels wrote:
I suppose the most effective marketing is creating a game that people like and want to play? I keep hearing about this game to the point that I want to play it.

On March 24 2015 21:13 Xapti wrote:

Man, I knew (highly suspected) those botanical gardens weren't worth it (still like 16 times better than a stadium though). How could developers fail so hard at simple balance? Look at "plaza with picnic tables"—it's worse in every single way than a freaking playground but costs an assload more to both build an upkeep. Seriously? Balance aside, how the hell does it cost so much to make an maintain a slab of concrete with some tables? This really bothers me! What's going on in the developer's heads?

Personally, I would just want the comparison to show estimated upkeep costs vs happiness multiplied by area, rather than including the construction cost at all (this isn't Starcraft). or having the area and entertainment in separate efficiency columns.

On March 30 2015 17:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
Just started playing, played a shitload of Sim City 4, so maybe I'm bitter, but these are the things I can't stand right now:

• I hate how hospitals and fire stations don't have AOE displays, but work depending on your roads and shit. It works planning and spreading out your areas a massive nuisance.
  
  
• Why does Zoning Suck? In SC4, you would make large zone areas and the roads would start themselves so that everyone had road access. Not in this game.
  
  
• Small thing, but when I click on a road, I wish it didn't assume I want to make another road after. Always gotta press ESC just to cancel another construction of road.
  
  
• Any way to make roads parallel? I'm trying to line them up perfectly so squares touches other squares when I create two parallel roads, but I always miss or the game makes open spaces between two streets which I don't want.

Other than that, I enjoy the game for what it is, a different take on the City Simulation genre, I think a lot of what they did was take SC4 and went further and focused on what really mattered.

On March 31 2015 02:35 skyR wrote:


He's talking about this: