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c0ldfusion
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greenelve
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Shellshock
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puppykiller
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Shellshock
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BlackMagister
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On February 24 2014 22:24 Zealos wrote: Yeah, Democracy really does suck hard. The entire fun was watching that stream trying for nearly a day to get over that ledge. Now they can just vote Demo and do it... Democracy can still be difficult with them overshooting thing and they don't use it that much. It did also open the whole thing to be corrupted by stream raiders trying to release Pokemon. I'm really amazed how great the team they've got is for TPP. Aside from the levels which always be grinded later it's a well rounded team that is also lore heavy for the stream. Zapdos (AJ) Venemoth (ATV) Omanyte (God) Nidoking (Fonz) Pidgeot (Bird Jesus) Lapras (Air) | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
On February 25 2014 00:11 Shellshock wrote: the nidorino they caught in the safari zone was spared on bloody sunday. I guess they picked up another moonstone at some point Yeah, on the way back from Saffron to Cinnabar in Mt Moon I believe  | ||
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Alaric
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Hesmyrr
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Threat of the Release is not the main point though. What happened is that because option of democracy was available, people became less adverse to the concept of utilizing PC to switch out the team. I remember when getting Zapdos, people were actually waiting just right beside the PC while spamming B, just waiting for the democracy to take over so the computer could be used safely. I am assuming less people would have been willing to change the roster had not the mental clutch of Democracy existed (does anyone remember pre-democracy Rocket Hideout, when Digrat had not been primarily liked yet and many wanted to deposit him but couldn't work up the courage to? Good times). The unlikely chance of release and greater willingness to brave the PC meant that the team was bound to be filled with lore-heavy pokemons. There was several times where team member composition was "acceptable", but then people used Democracy to switch out less desirable member with the pokemon of interest, which was either strong or fan favourite. Team optimization was thus inevitable. | ||
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Alaric
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On February 25 2014 01:35 Hesmyrr wrote: They've got pretty much perfect team Threat of the Release is not the main point though. What happened is that because option of democracy was available, people became less adverse to the concept of utilizing PC to switch out the team. I remember when getting Zapdos, people were actually waiting just right beside the PC while spamming B, just waiting for the democracy to take over so the computer could be used safely. I am assuming less people would have been willing to change the roster had not the mental clutch of Democracy existed (does anyone remember pre-democracy Rocket Hideout, when Digrat had not been primarily liked yet and many wanted to deposit him but couldn't work up the courage to? Good times). The unlikely chance of release and greater willingness to brave the PC meant that the team was bound to be filled with lore-heavy pokemons. There was several times where team member composition was "acceptable", but then people used Democracy to switch out less desirable member with the pokemon of interest, which was either strong or fan favourite. Team optimization was thus inevitable. wait.. didn't they release a bunch of pokemon trying to get zapdos out? a.k.a bloody Sunday? | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On February 25 2014 01:43 c0ldfusion wrote: wait.. didn't they release a bunch of pokemon trying to get zapdos out? a.k.a bloody Sunday? Rip Cabbage, Dux, and Digrat. The memories. | ||
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BlackMagister
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XaCez
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
On February 25 2014 01:43 c0ldfusion wrote: wait.. didn't they release a bunch of pokemon trying to get zapdos out? a.k.a bloody Sunday? What happened was that after capturing the Zapdos, they went to the PC - at that time, anarchy supporters and Destiny scare was sufficient that Democracy couldn't take over at any notable length. Some pokemons were sacrificed under Anarchy with most of our old members deposited, but we managed to withdraw a team with Zapdos in it, therefore all the new generation jokes (that obviously did not last very long). ![[image loading]](http://z2.enha.kr/http://i.imgur.com/Q30oZeR.jpg) The team composition at the time of Anarchy Zapdos withdrawal. It might have been fine to quit here. Unfortunately people were unwilling to accept such rapid member turnover and decided to brave the PC again after several hours (no 'significant' pokemon were released until then so I assume people were growing cocky). The result is well-known casualty of the PC debacle, xCabbage DUX and Bigdig - all under Anarchy. So the group turned tail and fled with team composition of : Pidgeot, Gastly, Zubat, Lapras, Venomoth, and Drowzee. Now, this is perfectly serviceable team as well. Still, people really wanted that Zapdos so they once again decided to risk the PC again, except with new tactic of spamming only B during Anarchy, so that everything is done with Democracy and there's absolutely minimal Anarchy PC use. Unlike previous times there was enough willingness from the people to actually have Democracy take hold, and Zapdos was withdrawn with little fanfare (aforementioned threat of Destiny turned out to be non-factor, and while there was momentary scare where it seemed like we would release Pidgeot, the long stream delay actually made it impossible for any accidental release to occur). Apparently it was so successful that people thought it was perfectly fine to use this strategy from now on, as is the case with the Omanyte. It is extremely dubious that the events in last paragraph would have happened - team optimization - without Democracy. Shock of Bloody Sunday, enough to decimate previous support for Anarchy, would have prevented further tinkering and indeed at least 2/3 of the people spammed B while we waited for Democracy to take over (those people would not have gotten near PC in the first place if Anarchy was still only option to switch up the team). | ||
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c0ldfusion
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
On February 25 2014 01:35 Hesmyrr wrote: They've got pretty much perfect team Threat of the Release is not the main point though. What happened is that because option of democracy was available, people became less adverse to the concept of utilizing PC to switch out the team. I remember when getting Zapdos, people were actually waiting just right beside the PC while spamming B, just waiting for the democracy to take over so the computer could be used safely. I am assuming less people would have been willing to change the roster had not the mental clutch of Democracy existed (does anyone remember pre-democracy Rocket Hideout, when Digrat had not been primarily liked yet and many wanted to deposit him but couldn't work up the courage to? Good times). The unlikely chance of release and greater willingness to brave the PC meant that the team was bound to be filled with lore-heavy pokemons. There was several times where team member composition was "acceptable", but then people used Democracy to switch out less desirable member with the pokemon of interest, which was either strong or fan favourite. Team optimization was thus inevitable. They were spamming B in democracy mode to get out of the PC because a streamer was trying to use his viewers to sway the votes in democracy to release pidgeot. Spammed B to avoid using the PC and waited for anarchy mode to come back on so they could leave pokecenter. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
37:11:00 This is the moment of Zapdos withdrawal. Throughout the entire Democracy PC usage, there haven't been anything remotely threatening that could not be attributed to lag. I personally believe 'Democracy is more vulnerable to trolls' argument completely invalid. Also, if you look at the Anarchy PC use before the time stamp, you can clearly see people's unwillingness to use PC on Anarchy - there are lot of B commands being pressed to prevent people from using the PC, and people were screaming on the chat to wait until Democracy. | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On February 25 2014 02:27 c0ldfusion wrote: You guys keep citing Destiny. Lol why does he want to mess with these guys? Because Destiny is an asshole. And it's effectively a marketing technique to try and get his name and stream to a bigger audience. | ||
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