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Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
December 23 2014 11:46 GMT
#7181
On December 23 2014 18:35 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 07:29 Thalandros wrote:
Still unsure whether to level a Warrior or Hunter from 90-100. I've got a Feral/Guardian druid at 100, maxed out in PvP gear as far as that goes and about 640i in PvE, but I'm looking for somethign a bit different but still at max level. I've played both those classes in previous expansions, but no idea which one is the most fun at the moment. Arms is completely changed and messed up, but Hunters seem completely different in a bad way as well. Anyone with any recent experience on either?


better avoid dk and ret considering how hard they obviously wreck every druid spec 1v2



Such anger You cannot deny that DK's and Rets are in an amazing, considerably the best position right now.


Anyway, thanks guys. I might go Hunter after all. I don't like rolling a non-hybrid but I don't want to be stuck melee-ing on 2 toons constantly.


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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
December 23 2014 12:37 GMT
#7182
On December 23 2014 20:46 Thalandros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 18:35 Cyro wrote:
On December 23 2014 07:29 Thalandros wrote:
Still unsure whether to level a Warrior or Hunter from 90-100. I've got a Feral/Guardian druid at 100, maxed out in PvP gear as far as that goes and about 640i in PvE, but I'm looking for somethign a bit different but still at max level. I've played both those classes in previous expansions, but no idea which one is the most fun at the moment. Arms is completely changed and messed up, but Hunters seem completely different in a bad way as well. Anyone with any recent experience on either?


better avoid dk and ret considering how hard they obviously wreck every druid spec 1v2



Such anger You cannot deny that DK's and Rets are in an amazing, considerably the best position right now.


Anyway, thanks guys. I might go Hunter after all. I don't like rolling a non-hybrid but I don't want to be stuck melee-ing on 2 toons constantly.




you're the one whining about other classes/races/heroes constantly on every game that you play, while playing stuff that's not bad yourself
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 23 2014 13:21 GMT
#7183
in b4 nerfbat
WriterXiao8~~
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
December 23 2014 13:36 GMT
#7184


If someone's interested.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
December 23 2014 13:51 GMT
#7185
On December 23 2014 21:37 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 20:46 Thalandros wrote:
On December 23 2014 18:35 Cyro wrote:
On December 23 2014 07:29 Thalandros wrote:
Still unsure whether to level a Warrior or Hunter from 90-100. I've got a Feral/Guardian druid at 100, maxed out in PvP gear as far as that goes and about 640i in PvE, but I'm looking for somethign a bit different but still at max level. I've played both those classes in previous expansions, but no idea which one is the most fun at the moment. Arms is completely changed and messed up, but Hunters seem completely different in a bad way as well. Anyone with any recent experience on either?


better avoid dk and ret considering how hard they obviously wreck every druid spec 1v2



Such anger You cannot deny that DK's and Rets are in an amazing, considerably the best position right now.


Anyway, thanks guys. I might go Hunter after all. I don't like rolling a non-hybrid but I don't want to be stuck melee-ing on 2 toons constantly.




you're the one whining about other classes/races/heroes constantly on every game that you play, while playing stuff that's not bad yourself

What's playing stuff that isn't bad myself got to do with anything? Anyway, not going to continue an off-topic discussion here, if you want to pick a fight /w me and my observations, do it elsewhere for the good of the thread.

____________


Should I pick SV or MM for levelling? I've never been much of a fan of BM, I might try it if people say it's a lot of fun though. Balance aside, which spec is the most engaging/fun? I've always played MM, but they changed it around a good bit I've noticed.


|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 23 2014 14:17 GMT
#7186
I did 85 > 100 in survival and didn't have an issue. I think all 3 spec are viable for pexing.
BM might be better until you atleast get redirection+ its glyph tho.

Balance aside, all 3 spec are pretty fun anhd different.
MM is a lot of long and hard hitting cast + Chimaera, so if you like big numbers and the sniper feeling, its really cool.
BM is a lot less mindless than it used to be, it has some interesting mechanic with focus fire, Kill command is satisfaying to use and exotic pets are fun.
Surv is very mobile with a lot of damage over time now, and get the old stuff like root on traps and serpent sting
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
December 23 2014 15:38 GMT
#7187
BM is best if you just wanna level while braindead and let your pet do all the work for you.

MM is best for blowing shit up quick but does involve long casts.

SV is instant casts but is slower imo.
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Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
December 23 2014 15:41 GMT
#7188
I just failed a 10 hour ~ 97% chance mission for loot...
Support your esport!
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
December 23 2014 15:45 GMT
#7189
Thanks, I'll stick with MM for now then. Thanks
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 23 2014 16:00 GMT
#7190
On December 24 2014 00:41 Alabasern wrote:
I just failed a 10 hour ~ 97% chance mission for loot...


TTTTTTTTTT
Unlucky. I hate RNG. You see it when your getting 63% mission success chance and you get it. Then you fail your 83% chance one etc. Heart of the cards is needed for those missions :D
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
December 23 2014 16:05 GMT
#7191
On December 24 2014 00:41 Alabasern wrote:
I just failed a 10 hour ~ 97% chance mission for loot...

Wait til you fail a 100% mission
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 23 2014 16:30 GMT
#7192
On December 24 2014 01:05 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2014 00:41 Alabasern wrote:
I just failed a 10 hour ~ 97% chance mission for loot...

Wait til you fail a 100% mission

Wait so this CAN actually happen? I'm pretty sure it has to me, but I convinced myself I was crazy and misread the number as I was clicking through too fast or something...
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
December 23 2014 16:31 GMT
#7193
Guess they approximate 99.5% to 100% or something silly like that. It hasn't happened to me yet though.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
December 23 2014 16:51 GMT
#7194
Wow that's lame!
Support your esport!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 23 2014 16:59 GMT
#7195
On December 24 2014 01:30 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2014 01:05 NotSorry wrote:
On December 24 2014 00:41 Alabasern wrote:
I just failed a 10 hour ~ 97% chance mission for loot...

Wait til you fail a 100% mission

Wait so this CAN actually happen? I'm pretty sure it has to me, but I convinced myself I was crazy and misread the number as I was clicking through too fast or something...


It can only happen if you used side buffs (companion, terrain, high stamina, etc.) to get to 100% instead of supplying all of the countermeasures. Or if you used an under-leveled person for one of the countermeasures and buffed it with the buffs above.

Again, it's really 99.5% or so.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 23 2014 17:37 GMT
#7196
Finally killed Tectus and then my guild's mythic roster broke up haha. I got #5 DK on WCL though! And #1 damage to Motes, which is the important part tbh. I don't understand why almost every other DK uses Defile for that fight. I think it's mostly just lazy players not even considering their options. Defile is better for sustained damage and Breath of Sindragosa is better for burst. Not that hard to figure out.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 17:55:59
December 23 2014 17:53 GMT
#7197
On December 24 2014 02:37 NonY wrote:
Finally killed Tectus and then my guild's mythic roster broke up haha. I got #5 DK on WCL though! And #1 damage to Motes, which is the important part tbh. I don't understand why almost every other DK uses Defile for that fight. I think it's mostly just lazy players not even considering their options. Defile is better for sustained damage and Breath of Sindragosa is better for burst. Not that hard to figure out.


Honestly just nobody talking about it. I've never considered it - but then again i've simply never raided or voice chatted with another DK since WOTLK. Ever.

The only stuff i saw for defile was saying that it was so much more powerful than the other options, they should almost never be considered. I simmed something like a 1000dps loss for using Necrotic Plague on patchwerk fight and then never really looked back at it, aside from when i wanted to play 2h frost and be lazy (it makes it easier to use that spell that converts diseases to runes to react to killing machine procs and cast more oblits)

That spell, i never even simmed because i barely know how to use simcraft and i assumed Defile would be better with AOE because of previous comments~

Thanks for the tip though
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
December 23 2014 18:03 GMT
#7198
I guess Defile wouldn't be that great on Koragh either with how much he moves, same reason why i use Thermal Void instead of Prismatic Crystal on that fight.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
December 23 2014 19:25 GMT
#7199
Hey NonY??! why don't you stream some raiding? I would love to watch!
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
December 23 2014 20:05 GMT
#7200
Yay just got the conquest bow ~
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