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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
On March 08 2025 07:11 Fleetfeet wrote:
Yeah WC3 reforged was worse for everyone.
People nostalgic for the campaign were basically rugpulled on rework or improvement there.
Graphic reworks were pretty unanimously panned.
Competitive multiplayer people were offered nothing in the way of ladder.
...I assume WC3 custom map players also got hosed, or did popular WC3 maps actually survive reforged?
In any case reforged was pretty objectively terrible. They put it in the furnace for a while and tried to sell it back to people, slightly melted and misshapen.
IIRC many a custom map was nuked, possibly forever. Upon ‘upgrading’ some folks had their maps library FUBARed, so unless they were backed up, or someone else had done so, some were just lost.
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United States12267 Posts
However, the filesize limit for maps was increased, leading to some truly incredible maps such as 8-Bit Raid.
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On March 08 2025 04:26 cha0 wrote:
Yea some people here definitely have a very muddled memory of the Reforged launch and first year of it.
No, this was just that one weirdo Blizzard shill who has registered and had banned here maybe 100 accounts.
Nobody else could possibly defend Reforged lmao
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
On March 08 2025 21:38 jhzrrtdf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 20:33 Turbovolver wrote:On March 08 2025 04:26 cha0 wrote:
Yea some people here definitely have a very muddled memory of the Reforged launch and first year of it. No, this was just that one weirdo Blizzard shill who has registered and had banned here maybe 100 accounts. Nobody else could possibly defend Reforged lmao When has Reforged been defended? Post a couple of quotes. You seem to be 100% sure about it, so it shouldnt be a problem
Some bloke/blokette who seems pathologically incapable of hearing a bad word said about Blizz was doing just that, but their account got nuked including their posts. Kinda hard to quote what no longer exists on the site.
You’ll just have to take our word for it ^_^
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
On March 08 2025 23:50 jhzrrtdf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 21:55 WombaT wrote:On March 08 2025 21:38 jhzrrtdf wrote:On March 08 2025 20:33 Turbovolver wrote:On March 08 2025 04:26 cha0 wrote:
Yea some people here definitely have a very muddled memory of the Reforged launch and first year of it. No, this was just that one weirdo Blizzard shill who has registered and had banned here maybe 100 accounts. Nobody else could possibly defend Reforged lmao When has Reforged been defended? Post a couple of quotes. You seem to be 100% sure about it, so it shouldnt be a problem Some bloke/blokette who seems pathologically incapable of hearing a bad word said about Blizz was doing just that, but their account got nuked including their posts. Kinda hard to quote what no longer exists on the site. You’ll just have to take our word for it ^_^ Quote from mind, everyone is 100% sure about it
On March 07 2025 18:47 htrdfsda wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2025 16:14 Velr wrote:
Warcraft 3 reforged was so bad, instead of boosting it, it damn near nearly killed the remaining scene.
Trying to say anything else is very rose tinted. They did some neat things since and seem kinda interested to turn the ship around but the damage was done. Bullshit. They still had their tournament scene going on. Back2Warcraft were streaming for +1000. Grubby, Tod, Happy have their audience. How big do you think the scene was? The game was good enough for them
That do it or?
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
On March 09 2025 00:30 jhzrrtdf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2025 00:22 WombaT wrote:On March 08 2025 23:50 jhzrrtdf wrote:On March 08 2025 21:55 WombaT wrote:On March 08 2025 21:38 jhzrrtdf wrote:On March 08 2025 20:33 Turbovolver wrote:On March 08 2025 04:26 cha0 wrote:
Yea some people here definitely have a very muddled memory of the Reforged launch and first year of it. No, this was just that one weirdo Blizzard shill who has registered and had banned here maybe 100 accounts. Nobody else could possibly defend Reforged lmao When has Reforged been defended? Post a couple of quotes. You seem to be 100% sure about it, so it shouldnt be a problem Some bloke/blokette who seems pathologically incapable of hearing a bad word said about Blizz was doing just that, but their account got nuked including their posts. Kinda hard to quote what no longer exists on the site. You’ll just have to take our word for it ^_^ Quote from mind, everyone is 100% sure about it On March 07 2025 18:47 htrdfsda wrote:On March 07 2025 16:14 Velr wrote:
Warcraft 3 reforged was so bad, instead of boosting it, it damn near nearly killed the remaining scene.
Trying to say anything else is very rose tinted. They did some neat things since and seem kinda interested to turn the ship around but the damage was done. Bullshit. They still had their tournament scene going on. Back2Warcraft were streaming for +1000. Grubby, Tod, Happy have their audience. How big do you think the scene was? The game was good enough for them That do it or? Lets do a little fact check: Was the tournament scene still going on? Did Grubby, Tod, Happy have their WC3 audience? "it damn near nearly killed the remaining scene." That also needs numbers to back it up
Yes it’s hyperbolic to claim it killed the scene, fair point there. But otherwise it was such a shit product it didn’t really boost the scene as much as it could have, which I think is the broader argument most here make.
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
On March 09 2025 05:45 jhzrrtdf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2025 00:35 WombaT wrote:On March 09 2025 00:30 jhzrrtdf wrote:On March 09 2025 00:22 WombaT wrote:On March 08 2025 23:50 jhzrrtdf wrote:On March 08 2025 21:55 WombaT wrote:On March 08 2025 21:38 jhzrrtdf wrote:On March 08 2025 20:33 Turbovolver wrote:On March 08 2025 04:26 cha0 wrote:
Yea some people here definitely have a very muddled memory of the Reforged launch and first year of it. No, this was just that one weirdo Blizzard shill who has registered and had banned here maybe 100 accounts. Nobody else could possibly defend Reforged lmao When has Reforged been defended? Post a couple of quotes. You seem to be 100% sure about it, so it shouldnt be a problem Some bloke/blokette who seems pathologically incapable of hearing a bad word said about Blizz was doing just that, but their account got nuked including their posts. Kinda hard to quote what no longer exists on the site. You’ll just have to take our word for it ^_^ Quote from mind, everyone is 100% sure about it On March 07 2025 18:47 htrdfsda wrote:On March 07 2025 16:14 Velr wrote:
Warcraft 3 reforged was so bad, instead of boosting it, it damn near nearly killed the remaining scene.
Trying to say anything else is very rose tinted. They did some neat things since and seem kinda interested to turn the ship around but the damage was done. Bullshit. They still had their tournament scene going on. Back2Warcraft were streaming for +1000. Grubby, Tod, Happy have their audience. How big do you think the scene was? The game was good enough for them That do it or? Lets do a little fact check: Was the tournament scene still going on? Did Grubby, Tod, Happy have their WC3 audience? "it damn near nearly killed the remaining scene." That also needs numbers to back it up Yes it’s hyperbolic to claim it killed the scene, fair point there. But otherwise it was such a shit product it didn’t really boost the scene as much as it could have, which I think is the broader argument most here make. So its not about what i said, its about what i didnt
Considering unless there’s another user’s post quoting you, there’s no way to actually reference what you do say outside of having an eidetic memory idk what you want lmao.
But hey if you’d [i]do[/] think that:
A - Reforged was a shitshow of a launch.
B - The scene could have got a bigger boost with a better Reforged than what it got
You’re quite welcome to just say that. If you don’t, well then you’re complaining about people accurately representing your position(s) for some reason.
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On March 09 2025 05:45 jhzrrtdf wrote:
So its not about what i said, its about what i didnt
What you said?! But wait, that means you're htrdfsda?!?!
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I would guess that everyone who strays into this part of the forum knows by now but just to make sure:
Grubby is hosting a 10.000k Dollar Tournament (sponsored by Blizzard), next Friday/Saturday (March 14/15), with 8 more or less famous players/streamers of other games (among them Dendi, Sodapoppin).
So it's nothing high-skill, all the participants are bronze to gold afaik, people who Grubby met through his recent WoW-journey.
But all the hype around this thing is what drove WC3 to its highest player/viewer-numbers on YT/Twitch in recent times, as people above have talked about.
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On March 09 2025 16:52 Highgamer wrote:
all the participants are bronze to gold afaik
theyre a bit better than that, tyler1 is plat in W3C and he is middle of the pack in terms of skill.
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Right, that was an understatement. Dendi is probably diamond or master or s.th.? He'll most likely slay with this player pool.
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On March 09 2025 18:56 Highgamer wrote:
Right, that was an understatement. Dendi is probably diamond or master or s.th.? He'll most likely slay with this player pool.
perhaps. my moneys on ahmpy he's been grindin
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On March 09 2025 16:52 Highgamer wrote:I would guess that everyone who strays into this part of the forum knows by now but just to make sure: Grubby is hosting a 10.000k Dollar Tournament (sponsored by Blizzard), next Friday/Saturday (March 14/15), with 8 more or less famous players/streamers of other games (among them Dendi, Sodapoppin). So it's nothing high-skill, all the participants are bronze to gold afaik, people who Grubby met through his recent WoW-journey. But all the hype around this thing is what drove WC3 to its highest player/viewer-numbers on YT/Twitch in recent times, as people above have talked about.
I didn't so thanks for the info!
OnlyFangs... made me smile and chuckle :D
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Tyler1 hard throw standing in blizzards, 3x blizzards and thunder clap in the middle of his army. Brutal.
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It's really a great fun to watch, definitelly if you played or watched way back when but I would assume even for newbies.
Obviously there are moments where the big skill gaps are showing in a sad way (but then again they allow for big upsets), and some casts are less entertaining than others. But overall it's a great show and great to see (western) WC3 blossoming once again, at least for this tournament.
Kinda makes you envious that we don't have a figure such as Grubby for the non-KR Broodwar-community, like just a bro who is a good teacher/preacher for the game - but also happens to be a multiple times world champion and "big" variety streamer that can draw in a crowd from other games.
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