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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-28 19:24:26
December 28 2015 19:22 GMT
#8421
Don't think I'll roll until NA gets Eschamali.

Plusses are chugging along, wish I could (legally) automate button pressing somehow -_-.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-28 22:33:25
December 28 2015 22:23 GMT
#8422
Pay someone to push buttons for you!

Edit: Fuck Zaerog.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 29 2015 01:15 GMT
#8423
you can just use a macro like autoclicker or something but idk if it's legal.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 01:38:45
December 29 2015 01:31 GMT
#8424
Anything third party related is supposedly illegal so yea that would probably qualify.

I don't think I'm rolling much this godfest. Each stone is worth 20 plus eggs so each roll would be worth 100.

Ive already farmed 1000. It's been so nice.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
December 29 2015 01:54 GMT
#8425
I'll roll enough to afford yomidra but otherwise I'm in the same boat


1000 +eggs is like 45 rocks? I'm taking my sweet ass time, just slowly stoning and clearing so I don't burn myself out. I've only got like 300ish so far lol
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
December 29 2015 02:39 GMT
#8426
i got 15!
Argentina
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 03:24:12
December 29 2015 03:18 GMT
#8427
Is speed really that important? I've been farming Mercury, but apparently everyone is farming the vanilla Zeus level ^_^ Better rank exp, better coin, better pleggs?

1000 eggs already eh. I suppose that time save would be significant...
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 03:33:39
December 29 2015 03:23 GMT
#8428
On December 29 2015 12:18 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Is speed really that important? I've been farming Mercury, but apparently everyone is farming the vanilla Zeus level ^_^ Better rank exp, better coin, better pleggs?


Vanilla Zeus is the least annoying. It's insanely easy, it's only 5 floors (It's really hard to burn out on something that's only 5 floors.), and it will ALWAYS give you 4 plus eggs.

Zeus Vulcan only averages like 2 drops a run or something because most drops that would happen are rare drops. So 10 floors for 2 drops? Depends if you actually care about the rank EXP or not. I don't so I just run Vanilla Zeus. Can yawn through it so easily with Pandora.

I mean the best dungeon overall to run is Hera Sowilo and Kanetsugu as they average like 5.5 a run or something. Kantesugu is slightly more annoying because its an all att restricted dungeon. Descended Carnival is good if we ever get 2x drop rate for it.

I dunno I've noticed its much easier to run this a lot than 3x normals. 3x normals is like...26 runs a stone of 7-10 floors a run with MAYBE 1 plus egg every two runs. With this I'm always getting at least 20 plus eggs a stone and it's really quick. I don't find myself completely irritated with it.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 03:54:01
December 29 2015 03:28 GMT
#8429
Two of the floors always drop (3 and 10) so there is no way the average is two.

I'm rolling in Godfest (Kali please!) instead of dumping all my stones into Plus eggs so I've only got to do like 9 or 10 runs a day.

On December 29 2015 12:29 dkpl wrote:
I think reddit made the case for it that it's 4 drops minimum 7 drops maximum


technically it's better, but if anyone is even slightly iap, they'll run vanilla zeus. If you're completely non-iap and can max all your stamina on zeus merc, go for it. But it's suffer and annoying to run, even for non-iap players. I'm running vanilla zeus cuz I can just drop a pack into this dungeon and walk away with nearly 2000 +eggs, and I can do it leisurely while watching things on youtube etc


Don't have a button pushing team so I'd have to pay attention even if I was farming vanilla if only on the last board.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
December 29 2015 03:29 GMT
#8430
I think reddit made the case for it that it's 4 drops minimum 7 drops maximum


technically it's better, but if anyone is even slightly iap, they'll run vanilla zeus. If you're completely non-iap and can max all your stamina on zeus merc, go for it. But it's suffer and annoying to run, even for non-iap players. I'm running vanilla zeus cuz I can just drop a pack into this dungeon and walk away with nearly 2000 +eggs, and I can do it leisurely while watching things on youtube etc
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 03:46:07
December 29 2015 03:35 GMT
#8431
On December 29 2015 12:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Two of the floors always drop (3 and 10) so there is no way the average is two.


Right i got confused between Vulcan and Mercury. You're right. Mercury averages 4.

Mercury is even more annoying than Vulcan though. Mercury is such a bind heavy dungeon that I'd have to run Awoken Sakuya or something to assure I never got bogged down because of binds and that really isn't exactly a leisurely thing. I love Awoken Sakuya to death but I only use her when I have to concentrate on what I'm doing.

I could use Yomi Dragon for Mercury I suppose but I'd still have to vaguely concentrate. Vanilla Zeus is just so ez. Basically if you need to scrape everything you can out of your stamina (Non-IAP basically) then yea definitely do Mercury. If you buy any stones at all chances are Vanilla Zeus is better over all if you have at least 200 stamina. I know several of us here are likely to come out of this with 2000-4000 more plus eggs when all is said and done and doing that without driving yourself insane is going to be through vanilla zeus.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
December 29 2015 03:47 GMT
#8432
it'd be easy if not for the shieldras. Then you'd have to actually think to get through that floor, unless you wanna stall out the absorb every run.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 06:06:41
December 29 2015 06:06 GMT
#8433
You can Bastet your way through Zeus Mercury if you take a bind clear. Kraken is a 3 turn bind, but the attack is on a 2 turn CD, so you just stall, tank one hit, then oneshot. Burn the bind clear on Apollo and you're home free.

No other floor has a bind that's a real threat.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
December 29 2015 07:11 GMT
#8434
On December 29 2015 15:06 Spazer wrote:
You can Bastet your way through Zeus Mercury if you take a bind clear. Kraken is a 3 turn bind, but the attack is on a 2 turn CD, so you just stall, tank one hit, then oneshot. Burn the bind clear on Apollo and you're home free.

No other floor has a bind that's a real threat.


Well I mean...that's the entire problem.

We're not saying it's not doable we're saying it's annoying. That entire sequence means we have to stall for 3 turns on Kraken no matter what you do on a dungeon that's already 10 floors. There is also a SLIM chance you won't one shot one of the many floors that has a bind attached to it. Hera-Is, Apollo, Hermes, Mercury, and the Chimera's can all bind you if you for any reason don't one shot the floor. If you're farming for an extended period of time and not paying attention it's actually remarkably easy to screw it up for one reason or another and bam you just lost 50 stamina in a lot of cases or just spent even MORE time than you really wanted to.

Also 10 floors is just suffer.

So for those that don't really care about the exp and gold Vanilla Zeus is just more practical and just flat less annoying. That's all. Zeus Mercury is the superior choice if you care about things aside from plus eggs and have the patience for it.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
December 29 2015 08:30 GMT
#8435
Case in point i managed to fail to activate 16x on the chimeras on vanilla zeus during one of my runs and ate a 4 turn bind on luckily 2 of my subs that was not sonia

I ended up clearing anyway by actually solving the board on zeus instead of getting my full dark board, but yeah inattentiveness can ruin your farming


Btw I'm further optimizing my team and right now, my subs are hanzo, ronia, satsuki, persephone. I'm in the process of hypering my hanzo, which should give enough damage to replace persephone with gronia. Too lazy to check my math so I'm just praying my estimations are right lol

with the two sonias in the team, all I do is:
tpa only floor 1 (use hanzo if lack of dark orbs)
1 row only floor 2 (use pandora #1 if necessary)
5 orb or 1 row only floor 3 (use sats if necessary)
full dark board floor 4 and 5

not very optimized for speed, but it's very brain deady lol
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
December 29 2015 09:12 GMT
#8436
I ran Hera Sowilo for an hour or two on x10 and it was great.
~5-6 plusses per run.
Kind of sad to run vanilla zeus for only 4 eggs per 50 stamina..
That's 12 Plusses per stone and I'm not sure I'm ok with that... ~20 stones for a +297..
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
December 29 2015 11:33 GMT
#8437
what is the perfect yomi dragon team, and what are his/her best subs overall?
How does the team perform overall? How consistent is it and does it need very good orb matching skills ?

Now as all of the MP dragons are in the MP shop, and I have over 300k MP, I might aswell buy one.

Thinking who to get - Yomidra or RaDra.
I have the absolutely perfect subs for RaDra (2xDkali, Isis, Indra) but not enough skills to use it, and who knows if I ever will. Currently can match like ~5 combos consistently, and more if the board is good, but I'm not good at board management overall, and at matching specific orb colors.

And I have some pretty good dark subs aswell -- Like a million Haku's, DIza, Dkali, Persephone, Satsuki, Yomi, Hanzo, Pandora, Lu bu, Akechi, Vritra, Dmeta, Loki, Hades, DLucifer, Beelz.

Can't clear Zaerog yet, so don't have him..
I don't believe you.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 15:06:02
December 29 2015 15:04 GMT
#8438
There isn't really a perfect yomidra team, but generally it's haku, okuni, more yomidra, mitsuhide, eschamali when we get her, diza for shield.

It's probably best team overall in term of easy to use / utility / power, it certainly is most consistent arena team. But the damage is lower than firecat / ayomi / sakuya, and much lower than radra nepdra noobis. You do need some combo ability for legend+ dungeons, but less than other teams. It is fairly consistent but does have problem with things that orb change away dark as you need + dark orbs to active.

If you have the sub (AI&I, 1-2 Karin, Hermes, Mori or Blonia some mix of gabe / andro), NepDra is really really powerful. It is not very consistent for arena but you can brute force a good % of time.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
December 29 2015 15:12 GMT
#8439
why is mitsuhide a good sub for yomidra ?

Water is not really much of an option for me, as I'm in EU and nobody runs water leads really. Nothing decent at least.
I've never even seen anyone with a nepdra.
Don't have any karin's either.
I don't believe you.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
December 29 2015 15:15 GMT
#8440
because haku > mitsuhide combo, and mitsuhide enhance orb, which you need if you get hit by like beel full board change.

Really, biggest issue yomidra has is to get a + dark orb
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
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