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MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
March 01 2014 17:18 GMT
#261
On March 01 2014 17:51 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2014 16:16 MegaManEXE wrote:
rolled 41 times in jp godfest for parvati and pandora...

+ Show Spoiler +
Anubis
Berserker Z
Flame Guardian
Persephone (6 star)
Izanagi
Dark Metatron (fed to my Kirin for the +egg to make her 297 )
Thanatos
Parvati (finally!)
Pierdra
Machine Golem
Machine Golem Mk.II
Fenrir Knight
Belial
Lovely Maiden Princess Valkyrie
Kushinada
Horus
Ra
Meteor Volcano Dragon
Mystic Stone Knight
Horus
Machine Golem Mk.II
Red Sonia
Izanagi
Ice Guardian
Umisachi & Yamasachi
Persephone
Succubus
Mermaid
Fenrir Knight
Red Odin :O
Flame Guardian
Thanatos
Phoenix Knight
Siren
Strawberry Dragon
Viper Orochi
Phoenix Knight
Sea Serpent
Grimlock
Genie
Pandora!


you must be rich t.t


actually quite the opposite lol

i just don't play any other games or spend my money on anything else so i just use it all on pad and gas
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 02:30:03
March 03 2014 02:22 GMT
#262
Now my best spike lead is still Haku, how far would she be able to take me? Should I go all out invest in a Byakko team or save stones and pray for Horus / Kirin?

Subs for Haku are Perephone, Kamui, Gigas, Echi, with Loki, Vamp, DJ as situational subs.

I do have an unleveled Ra but I can't use him with any consistency...

Also have Genbu but her possible subs are all unleveled (valky, cu chu and newly minted zombie dragon, and maybe melon as heart maker?)
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 06:41:34
March 03 2014 06:40 GMT
#263
Haku will take you well into descends. She has many farmable subs and dark experience is abundant. For everything else, there's Ra (which I wanted last Egyptian godfest D: )

Finally max leveled my Bastet. 'Twas a long time coming, but it's done.
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
March 03 2014 12:03 GMT
#264
byakko can clear every descend except the restricted ones (draggie, tengu, dragon zombie)

some of the harder ones like izanami and zeus dios might be problematic but if you have enough +eggs and combo well then you can do them
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
March 03 2014 14:48 GMT
#265
Good to know, thanks
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
March 04 2014 05:31 GMT
#266
On March 03 2014 21:03 MegaManEXE wrote:
byakko can clear every descend except the restricted ones (draggie, tengu, dragon zombie)

some of the harder ones like izanami and zeus dios might be problematic but if you have enough +eggs and combo well then you can do them


if you have enough + eggs and combo well pretty much any team can do it...

but anyway, I forgot to get the awoken skills on my samurai ogre before ulti evolving it so I had to use 2 tamadras on it.
Luckily they're giving away 7 tamadras in this event so i have 5 more, perfect for when I evolve Red Sonia.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
March 04 2014 16:34 GMT
#267
well not really, a lot of traditional 2/2/4 or 2/4/2 mono color teams as well as tank teams like luci, astaroth, and odin can't 0 stone the newer descends, but byakko can

that's all i was saying

pretty much any team that's either a sonia or a spike team with a multiplier of 12.25x or higher can do all the descends (excluding satan because of the negative rcv thing)
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
March 04 2014 16:43 GMT
#268
yay, finally completed my first descend ever! Beat hera with 1 stone (fucked up while stalling on floor 4 with 2 large devils) using my Kirin team. was worried I wouldn't have enough hp, or that I'd get orb trolled, but the board was relatively kind to me today :D
Writer:o
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 18:45:46
March 04 2014 18:28 GMT
#269
Also beat it for the first time, though I used DJ / 3x Rainbow + Echi with Luci friend, OMG that was SLOWWWW, slow enough that I fell asleep during 3rd run and forgot to use rainbow skill on Hades T.T (it was around 90-100 min per run)

But 2 stone total for 3 gravity, can't complain!

On March 04 2014 14:31 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 21:03 MegaManEXE wrote:
byakko can clear every descend except the restricted ones (draggie, tengu, dragon zombie)

some of the harder ones like izanami and zeus dios might be problematic but if you have enough +eggs and combo well then you can do them


if you have enough + eggs and combo well pretty much any team can do it...

but anyway, I forgot to get the awoken skills on my samurai ogre before ulti evolving it so I had to use 2 tamadras on it.
Luckily they're giving away 7 tamadras in this event so i have 5 more, perfect for when I evolve Red Sonia.


OMG... dat use of Tamadras... meanwhile I'm leveling titan to red gigas to avoid using mine.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
March 04 2014 21:02 GMT
#270
On March 05 2014 03:28 ragz_gt wrote:
OMG... dat use of Tamadras... meanwhile I'm leveling titan to red gigas to avoid using mine.


It takes almost 1.7 mil exp from gigas to RGG... tamas are not worth that much considering they're about ~300-350 stamina each from metal dragons and 6-7 runs of a super dragon dungeon will net you more than 1.7 mil exp on average. And that's not even factoring in the non-tama fodder exp you get from those metal dragon runs or the added evo mat costs from evolving gigas.
Kronen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States732 Posts
March 04 2014 21:51 GMT
#271
On March 05 2014 01:43 Kiett wrote:
yay, finally completed my first descend ever! Beat hera with 1 stone (fucked up while stalling on floor 4 with 2 large devils) using my Kirin team. was worried I wouldn't have enough hp, or that I'd get orb trolled, but the board was relatively kind to me today :D


Gratz dude! May you never know the pain of using resolve teams for descends... :-)

Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 23:06:51
March 04 2014 23:06 GMT
#272
On March 05 2014 06:51 Kronen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 01:43 Kiett wrote:
yay, finally completed my first descend ever! Beat hera with 1 stone (fucked up while stalling on floor 4 with 2 large devils) using my Kirin team. was worried I wouldn't have enough hp, or that I'd get orb trolled, but the board was relatively kind to me today :D


Gratz dude! May you never know the pain of using resolve teams for descends... :-)


haha, i kind of know the pain already. had to use a resist dragon team to do corpse dragon, took me like 2.5 hours cuz I kept getting bored and putting it down in the middle. no poison and not enough rippers meant trying to grind down a high defense boss 1 damage at a time T_T

never going through that again!!
Writer:o
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 00:25:37
March 05 2014 00:23 GMT
#273
On March 05 2014 06:02 rsvp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 03:28 ragz_gt wrote:
OMG... dat use of Tamadras... meanwhile I'm leveling titan to red gigas to avoid using mine.


It takes almost 1.7 mil exp from gigas to RGG... tamas are not worth that much considering they're about ~300-350 stamina each from metal dragons and 6-7 runs of a super dragon dungeon will net you more than 1.7 mil exp on average. And that's not even factoring in the non-tama fodder exp you get from those metal dragon runs or the added evo mat costs from evolving gigas.


Yes but I have to use them on non farmable stuff so the opportunity cost is very very high (used all tama I got on Loki and Haku). Not like I can just non stop run dragon with increased tamadra if I wanted to.

On March 05 2014 08:06 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 06:51 Kronen wrote:
On March 05 2014 01:43 Kiett wrote:
yay, finally completed my first descend ever! Beat hera with 1 stone (fucked up while stalling on floor 4 with 2 large devils) using my Kirin team. was worried I wouldn't have enough hp, or that I'd get orb trolled, but the board was relatively kind to me today :D


Gratz dude! May you never know the pain of using resolve teams for descends... :-)


haha, i kind of know the pain already. had to use a resist dragon team to do corpse dragon, took me like 2.5 hours cuz I kept getting bored and putting it down in the middle. no poison and not enough rippers meant trying to grind down a high defense boss 1 damage at a time T_T

never going through that again!!


I did it with a getto team of 2x DJ, 1 ripper, 2 starter dragon and a fresh lvl 20 regu, wasn't terrible.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
March 05 2014 01:02 GMT
#274
i did dj x green sonia for dragon zombie, went pretty quick
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 01:12:35
March 05 2014 01:04 GMT
#275
On March 05 2014 09:23 ragz_gt wrote:
Yes but I have to use them on non farmable stuff so the opportunity cost is very very high (used all tama I got on Loki and Haku). Not like I can just non stop run dragon with increased tamadra if I wanted to.


Opportunity cost of what? The point is that tamadras themselves are farmable, just like monster exp. There's nothing in the game that you can run nonstop, and dungeons with tamadra appearances pop up multiple times a week, so that's not an issue. The comparison is to run metal or jewel dragons for tamadra every time it comes, and eventually you'll get a tamadra from them, versus pouring a ton of red monster exp into leveling gigas for an eventual awakening. On average the tamadra hunting route is much more cost effective for awakening than the 1.7m exp route. The only reason I could see someone wanting to spend 1.7m monster exp instead of a tamadra is if the awakening is extremely high priority/game changing, but gigas doesn't have great awakenings...
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 05 2014 01:24 GMT
#276
Anyone tried GungHo's new game?
It's quite fun. Similar to PAD yet very interesting.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.gungho.bm

http://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/comments/1xgm1d/gunghos_new_game_summons_board_is_out_now_on/?sort=new
靈魂交響曲
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 01:51:12
March 05 2014 01:44 GMT
#277
On March 05 2014 10:04 rsvp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 09:23 ragz_gt wrote:
Yes but I have to use them on non farmable stuff so the opportunity cost is very very high (used all tama I got on Loki and Haku). Not like I can just non stop run dragon with increased tamadra if I wanted to.


Opportunity cost of what? The point is that tamadras themselves are farmable, just like monster exp. There's nothing in the game that you can run nonstop, and dungeons with tamadra appearances pop up multiple times a week, so that's not an issue. The comparison is to run metal or jewel dragons for tamadra every time it comes, and eventually you'll get a tamadra from them, versus pouring a ton of red monster exp into leveling gigas for an eventual awakening. On average the tamadra hunting route is much more cost effective for awakening than the 1.7m exp route. The only reason I could see someone wanting to spend 1.7m monster exp instead of a tamadra is if the awakening is extremely high priority/game changing, but gigas doesn't have great awakenings...


Oh no I'm not rushing it, I just leveling it on the sides with all the red exp I have no other real use for at the moment.

But since I'm non IAP, most of the time I can't run metal dragons since I need the stam for specials, and I need run heavy exp dungeon otherwise I will get like 1 level per week (and I still need 10 more lvl to have enough team cost to ulti my echi). Everyday I pretty much runs 2-3 daily dungeon depending on the mats I need, and use the rest on whatever 1.5x drop 500 exp / stam dungeon, usually 2-3 times, and that's it. If I run urgent dungeon I basically can't do anything else that day. So I never really run metal/jewel unless it's 2x king / 1.5x tama during event.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
March 05 2014 02:29 GMT
#278
heartbreakers are the one type of farmable monster that most people used to recommend using a tama on because their exp requirements are absurd

but now the effective value of a tama has dropped to 180 stamina, equivalent to three runs of twinlits, so a lot of people will spend them on random things now that they might not have in the past when tamas were a lot harder to come by

when we get the metal/gold dungeon then the value of a tama will drop even further, i believe it goes down to just over 100 stamina per tama
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
March 05 2014 10:59 GMT
#279
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I am jealous of kirin owners.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 14:41:09
March 05 2014 14:40 GMT
#280
They have the new ultimate stats and skills for the JP version posted now:

http://puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=46

and some of the new ultimate art:
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