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On June 15 2013 16:19 Brett wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 16:07 LimitSEA wrote:On June 15 2013 15:50 FlawlessFeeL wrote:
Could someone explain to me the game story in general and the ending ?I saw someone streaming it today(ItmeJP) and I only saw the ending. I was looking for explanations about why the ending is apparently so sad,what are the fireflies,etc. Basically a resumé would be MUCH appreciated. Thanks in advance. I don't have a PS3 so I'll never have the chance to play this (apparently) top 5 games of this decade.
EDIT: With spoiler tags obviously, or just inbox. Hokay, I post my understanding. Obviously don't click the spoiler tag if you don't want the ending/game spoiled for you. + Show Spoiler +So the ending is basically that the Fireflies, a militant group who want to use Ellie, who is immune to the viral infection that's taking over the world, to create a vaccine and thus giving mankind hope. The twist is they do it by removing part of her brain, or something like that, which would obviously kill her.
Now you need to understand Joel's history. When the outbreak first happened and shit first hit the fan, Joel lost his daughter, who was roughly the same age as Ellie. He agrees to smuggle her across the country to find the Fireflies, initially only for the pay he'd receive at the end. But as they travel, their relationship grows. They suffer a lot. I feel like Joel sees a lot of his daughter in Ellie, and that she's sort of taken over where her daughter left off.
This is why it hits so hard at the end. When Joel decides to steal Ellie, you're seeing the selfish side of a man who's had everything taken from him. All he wants is a happy ending; for the suffering to finally be over, but to do so would be at the cost of a vaccine that could save the human race. He can't bear to lose Ellie, because it would like losing his daughter all over again.
At the end of the day, though, the best way for you understand why it was sad, and why the story is so hyped, is to play through it yourself. I actually only bought the PS3 the other day for this game specifically, lol. Haha, now do yourself a favour and get a copy of Uncharted 2 
I got it for free with the PS3  Haven't had a chance to play it for obvious reasons. xD
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I usually love and appreciate cinematic games quite a bit, but this one was a bit odd and didn't sit quite right. I loved the Mass Effect series, Uncharted series, God of War series, the BioShocks, etc.
I think Naughty Dog is the best game development studio in the world. They always push the boundaries with technology, visuals, cinematography in games, and storytelling. However I think they need to spend more time working with more innovative and fun gameplay mechanics for whatever their next-gen games are. This game and Bioshock: Infinite are both incredible stories, and an engrossing story enough to carry me through a game. But they both suffer from gameplay lulls. When I'm at the point where all I want to do is advance the story and not actually play the game, that raises a red flag for me...
To this day, I think BioWare has historically had the best success with merging good stories and a good cinematic experience with meaningful and fun gameplay. Bioshock 1 did the same thing and that's why it was so great. Tons of people still play ME3's multiplayer to this day, and that's a testament to ME3's stellar gameplay. And that series had some great storytelling moments.
I wish Naughty Dog would take a page from that and start by creating a game that's first and foremost fun as hell to play and then crafting a story and cinematic experience around it. That's what made the God of War series so god damned great. I feel like gameplay just didn't get enough attention in Last of Us.
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I love it how Ellie is throwing jokes at the fatty so awesome!
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Is this really as amazing as everyone says it is? With Ni No Kuni and this, I regret selling my PS3. I guess the best games really do come out at the final stages of a console's cycle.
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what an amazing story, i watched through all the cutscenes right now and can't believe how good it is.
It has incredible depth, realism and probably one of the few games that really has that end of the world feeling done right.
Probably gonna grab the game as soon as I have finished my exams.
People always praised on bioshock infinite female companion growing on you, but hell, this is much much WAY better.
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Wasn't excited about it at all, then I saw some footage...thinking of picking this up soon. First time I've bought an exclusive and a game for a home console in awhile...PC's been kinda dominating things on that front these days.
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enjoying Last of US very much but its far from the perfect game many critics are making it out to be.
Still really good ^^
Will have to give multi a try after campaign and curious to play the locked difficulty cause am yet to have any troubles regarding ammo or other supplies
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Ellen Page is one badass motherfucker
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On June 15 2013 23:21 Erasme wrote:
Ellen Page is one badass motherfucker
Ellen Page is not in this game..
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either im really bad at console games or this game is really fucking hard. i play each new game on hard and normally dont have big problems, but here.. wow.. i die like 10 times on each combat sequence. i love it!
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On June 16 2013 01:12 DragoonPK wrote:Ellen Page is not in this game..
I know that but you gotta admit Ellie looks a lot like her
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On June 16 2013 01:24 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 01:12 DragoonPK wrote:On June 15 2013 23:21 Erasme wrote:
Ellen Page is one badass motherfucker Ellen Page is not in this game.. I know that but you gotta admit Ellie looks a lot like her
Yep, they actually tweaked her look early on to avoid that XD.
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This is a spoiler but I have an honest question about it:
+ Show Spoiler +Does anybody else feel that it was kinda racist that the game introduces a black family than kills them off so soon? It made me feel like they just randomly added token black people in or to appeal to wider demographics.
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On June 16 2013 07:17 Ubiquitousdichotomy wrote:This is a spoiler but I have an honest question about it: + Show Spoiler +Does anybody else feel that it was kinda racist that the game introduces a black family than kills them off so soon? It made me feel like they just randomly added token black people in or to appeal to wider demographics.
+ Show Spoiler +You're too sensitive. Remember that white woman they introduce in the very beginning of the game? They killed her off, does Naughty Dog hate white people too? How about women? Does Naughty Dog hate women?
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On June 16 2013 11:43 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 07:17 Ubiquitousdichotomy wrote:This is a spoiler but I have an honest question about it: + Show Spoiler +Does anybody else feel that it was kinda racist that the game introduces a black family than kills them off so soon? It made me feel like they just randomly added token black people in or to appeal to wider demographics. + Show Spoiler +You're too sensitive. Remember that white woman they introduce in the very beginning of the game? They killed her off, does Naughty Dog hate white people too? How about women? Does Naughty Dog hate women?
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+ Show Spoiler +It's not about being sensitive, it's just realizing that this is a common issue, and is problematic. You can still enjoy something even if it is problematic. I wouldn't call the game developers racist, but I do think it's strange that they introduce them then kill them off, and I immediately noticed this when it happened, it was really annoying considering the history of minorities in horror  . I don't get your point, Ellie is a major character, has major plot development, and is a women and is not killed off, she is also a pretty strong character at that, fending for herself after awhile(I guess she needed a mans help to get there, but we can't have everything, and everyone needs a hand at some point and everyone needs a teacher. Tess is also a bad ass, so there's that.
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On June 16 2013 11:57 BlueBird. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 11:43 Millitron wrote:On June 16 2013 07:17 Ubiquitousdichotomy wrote:This is a spoiler but I have an honest question about it: + Show Spoiler +Does anybody else feel that it was kinda racist that the game introduces a black family than kills them off so soon? It made me feel like they just randomly added token black people in or to appeal to wider demographics. + Show Spoiler +You're too sensitive. Remember that white woman they introduce in the very beginning of the game? They killed her off, does Naughty Dog hate white people too? How about women? Does Naughty Dog hate women? ... major game spoilers + Show Spoiler +It's not about being sensitive, it's just realizing that this is a common issue, and is problematic. You can still enjoy something even if it is problematic. I wouldn't call the game developers racist, but I do think it's strange that they introduce them then kill them off.
I don't get your point, Ellie is a major character, has major plot development, and is a women and is not killed off, she is also a pretty strong character at that, fending for herself after awhile(I guess she needed a mans help to get there, but we can't have everything. Tess is also a bad ass, so there's that.
+ Show Spoiler +I dunno, I mean I thought they did pretty well at making them realistic characters. I thought they were both like-able, and felt kinda bad about their deaths. It's the zombie apocalypse, good people will get killed sometimes. I don't see it as racist if some of those good people happen to be black.
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On June 16 2013 07:17 Ubiquitousdichotomy wrote:This is a spoiler but I have an honest question about it: + Show Spoiler +Does anybody else feel that it was kinda racist that the game introduces a black family than kills them off so soon? It made me feel like they just randomly added token black people in or to appeal to wider demographics.
i thought they were a nice addition to the game. they really helped put some perspective on joel and ellie's relationship. great example being when they're forced to swap partners.
it also showed that there are still good people out there not just bandits, though the definition becomes ambiguous as they all have to get their hands dirty at one point.
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FAITH IN CONSOLE GAMING RESTORED
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watched a complete playthrough and would like to talk about it. Will put below under spoilers so don't open if you don't want to know about it.
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With regards to the black brothers dying. It is not racist but it was a pretty obvious turn. But you do sometimes wonder, why was there a lack of black characters overall in the game if you want to nitpick. hehe! But honestly, I didn't find the lack of diversity in the ethnicity an issue. =)
With regards to Ellie's medical state, they said her fungus specifically mutated right? This would mean that if she does bite/infect someone else, they would have the mutated strain and not the original strain. My understanding of that is that the simplest form of the vaccine is actually get the infection from Ellie. What do you guys think?
About the ending, I am curious about it. I don't mind how Naughty Dog went with it. I do however have a question. Ellie's infection on her arm, did it grow/change a bit? She keeps looking at it and I just feel there is something there that she is not saying (In terms of what the scene wants to evoke). Those sores didn't look like they were there before but I may be wrong. So I am unsure whether the premise is that there really is no immunity/cure but rather her's was a strain that was just slow to progress?
Just my thoughts on it so I can be wrong.
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This is the first time I watched entire game on stream (JP's), but this was totally worth it. I didn't like gameplay as much, but the enviroment/atmosphere and mainly the story and dialogues were awesome. Prologue is masterpiece by itself.
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