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Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 16:42:20
June 25 2013 16:32 GMT
#181
ahh, okay. guess ill give it a 2/2 on survival then. overall im a bit disappointed with the pill upgrades. only the shiv master and increased health is useful. weapon sway on 2/2, too i guess, though i didnt really have any aim issues on my hard playthrough without it
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
June 25 2013 16:47 GMT
#182
How could anyone deny there hasn't been any physical likeness ripped off?

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Tcheky Karyo

"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
June 28 2013 01:46 GMT
#183
Amazing setting/scenery, great atmosphere, touching story. Loved it. Lots of really brutal and gruesome moments in the game, like just about the whole time you're playing as Ellie. Running around stabbing dudes in the neck, fucking awesome.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
June 30 2013 00:37 GMT
#184
Anyone enjoying the multiplayer? As a big fan of SOCOM I and SOCOM II I don't find this to be a replacement, but it's an excellent game that reminds me of those experiences, I thoroughly have been enjoying survivor mode. Too many games don't have a (popular) game mode where it's one life per round - I don't enjoy respawn.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12628 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 01:24:06
June 30 2013 01:22 GMT
#185
On June 21 2013 05:47 On_Slaught wrote:
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On June 20 2013 17:55 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
It says a lot about the industry that a story as trite and manipulative as this is regarded as 'the citizen kane moment'

I won't lie, it's a lot better than the average game, but this game is to the greatest films and novels of all time as far as duke nukem forever is from it.

Like, they said it was inspired by The Road. Even the road, which is great but unexceptional in the grand scheme of literature, beats the everliving shit out of it as a narrative. With a poleaxe.



Just because a game is far and away better than what you are usually playing, this does not make it 'good' in an objective sense. It just makes it better than what you are usually playing.

If what you are usually playing is the usual buggy, trite, derivative, uninspired, often misogynistic or racist tripe, congratulations, welcome to the realm of a game that is worthy of the amount of money spent on it. Something that enhanced your life in a meaningful way by its consumption, rather than just killing time.

If a game is not this good, it is a BAD GAME.




I agree with this 100% (haven't played the game but the idea of modern games sucking so any above average game seems legendary).

People who have played this... is The last of Us really as good as, or better than these games:
- Portal 2
- Baldurs Gate 2
- GTA Vice City
- Bioshock 1 (or Infinite for that matter)
- Zelda Ocarina of Time
- TES Skyrim/Oblivion
- Star Wars KOTOR
- Final Fantasy 7/10 etc
- Diablo1/2
- Deus Ex
- Thief 1/2

etc. etc. All games equal to or surpassed by TloU on Metacritic? With the obvious conflicts of interests we are seeing over and over with game reviewers it is clear to me that review scores have been inflated over time. Very very few modern games come close to the depth or polish of older games like those on the list (though some are more recent). I hope TLoU isn't just some scripted movie essentially, since in my book that should never be rated above games that have story AND gameplay,, but in general I think my point about inflated scores still stands. There are some terrible games getting respectable scores (DA2 are you fucking kidding me?!).

it can't really be compared to most of them since the game style is different.
I enjoyed it much more than vice city, portal 2, skyrim and deus ex and definitly bioshock infinite.
bioshock infinite definitly isn't better polished, elizabeth keeps teleporting, random "here's a coin" comment destroying what she was saying etc. combat becomes more one dimensional compared to the previous boishock etc.
bioshock is more praised for its atmosphere building and story depth.
skyrim has that weapon forging that kinda defeats the purpose of grabbing unique items.

anyway my point is, the game is definitly amazing in its own way. If it's an interactive movie, why can't it get a score as high as those games. FF7 and FF10 were also not famous for its gameplay as well, FF12 were a breakthrough but failed the story department and it is one of the least popular in the series
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
July 01 2013 02:08 GMT
#186
just finished it. Great stuff. Made me think a lot about life and stuff:D
Also did it in about 16 hours, but it felt like a lot longer really. Overall a very special experience.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
July 09 2013 01:26 GMT
#187
Anyone been playing the multiplayer of this game? I have been playing Survivors mode and while the game is a lot of fun, I find the lack of online community support to be really disappointing. It would be great to have an actual team, custom lobbies, an in-game clan-war system - that would be awesome. Right now I find that not many people even communicate and it's not very easy to find like-minded people who are interested in doing so. I know you can look for clans/join clans externally on the internet, but I hope they add some features really soon or else I may become disinterested and go elsewhere.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 10 2013 16:07 GMT
#188
Holy shit what a depressed feeling after finishing the game. Just.. speechless.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 13 2013 19:18 GMT
#189
On July 11 2013 01:07 Grettin wrote:
Holy shit what a depressed feeling after finishing the game. Just.. speechless.

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I was actually happy for Joel at the end. Losing Ellie after losing Sara too would have felt worse imo, even if it was a selfish decision. I guess that's part of what makes the story so good is how there can be varying interpretations of it. I sympathized with Joel's motivations though. I played through on survivor recently with my g/f watching and she thought that by the end I was the "bad guy". Using my flame thrower on the doctors probably didn't help D:
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
July 13 2013 19:51 GMT
#190
On July 14 2013 04:18 Tachion wrote:
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On July 11 2013 01:07 Grettin wrote:
Holy shit what a depressed feeling after finishing the game. Just.. speechless.

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I was actually happy for Joel at the end. Losing Ellie after losing Sara too would have felt worse imo, even if it was a selfish decision. I guess that's part of what makes the story so good is how there can be varying interpretations of it. I sympathized with Joel's motivations though. I played through on survivor recently with my g/f watching and she thought that by the end I was the "bad guy". Using my flame thrower on the doctors probably didn't help D:


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"You just keep finding something to fight for" was pretty much him explaining his motivation and the whole ending. And I'm sure Ellie realized something was off when she asked him at the very end, but she'd rather take the lie and live as if it were the truth. At least that's my take on it. Phenomenal story either way.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 20:49:56
July 13 2013 20:44 GMT
#191
On July 14 2013 04:18 Tachion wrote:
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On July 11 2013 01:07 Grettin wrote:
Holy shit what a depressed feeling after finishing the game. Just.. speechless.

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I was actually happy for Joel at the end. Losing Ellie after losing Sara too would have felt worse imo, even if it was a selfish decision. I guess that's part of what makes the story so good is how there can be varying interpretations of it. I sympathized with Joel's motivations though. I played through on survivor recently with my g/f watching and she thought that by the end I was the "bad guy". Using my flame thrower on the doctors probably didn't help D:


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I do agree. Still felt depressed and sad afterwards, maybe because to me, Ellie knew that Joel lied to her about the fireflies etc.. What Joel did, i would've probably done also.


Question about the last scene & backpack:

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I was watching Day9's playthrough last night and in the last scene where you play as Ellie, people in the chat said to look into the backpack of Ellie's. What was there? I know you were able to check it in the winter scene at least. Does it differ?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 14 2013 14:26 GMT
#192
I can't remember the last time I truly and sincerely praised a game and thought it was fully worth its retail price. It may never have happened before. The Last Of Us is the best single player game I have ever played. For years now, I hadn't been able to really enjoy a game all that much when I was alone, it passed the time. TloU was different - I reluctantly turned on the PS3, because I didn't want to blow through the game too quickly... but I ended up doing the last third of the game really quickly because I couldn't wait to see what was going to happen. This game was simply amazing. I finished it last night and I'll carry some feelings around for a few days.

At first I hated that it was on PS3 because I'm horrible with a controller, but then I actually loved it. Me, enjoying a PS3 controller for a FPS is inconceivable, but it works for this particular game it works because I suppose Joel and Ellie should not have competitive Counter Strike aim...

Ending spoilers, but if you have finished it, read and please tell me what you think:
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The ending made me sad but kind of satisfied, it feels like the story arch is very much closed on a bittersweet note, which bothers me a bit but I can live with that ending. On the other hand, that game did something to me which no other games have managed to do since I was a little impressionable kid. I want more of that, and so I would love a sequel.

Unfortunately, it's possible that the story is best left untouched... I have very mixed feelings - for one I'm selfish and I desperately want more of Joel and Ellie because it's the only way I can enjoy gaming again, but on the other hand it could just ruin the story (in which case I would just blow off the sequel as not canon, that's how I roll).

As much as the story feels completed, there could be room for a sequel, but given that I'm not a writer or creative in any way, I don't immediately see how they would make it interesting. I've seen some people suggest having different characters in the same world, which at least to me would completely ruin the setting. There's something about Joel and Ellie that just works. So what do you guys think? Will we see more? ;(
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 14 2013 18:11 GMT
#193
It feels like the story is complete, and I'm pretty OK leaving it at that. You can read a few comments about naughty dog considering a sequel here http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/06/27/naughty-dog-comment-on-potential-the-last-of-us-sequel/

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I think they did a pretty good job of exploring the state of the world and don't have much else to add, even if it was a different story with someone else. They introduced the infected, quarantine zones, hunters, crazy governor-esque type dude/town, the resistance fighters, looking for a cure, and humanities new/clean start with Joel's Brother's place. What new elements do you think they have yet to introduce to the Last of Us universe?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 22:21:45
July 14 2013 22:10 GMT
#194
On July 15 2013 03:11 Tachion wrote:
It feels like the story is complete, and I'm pretty OK leaving it at that. You can read a few comments about naughty dog considering a sequel here http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/06/27/naughty-dog-comment-on-potential-the-last-of-us-sequel/

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I think they did a pretty good job of exploring the state of the world and don't have much else to add, even if it was a different story with someone else. They introduced the infected, quarantine zones, hunters, crazy governor-esque type dude/town, the resistance fighters, looking for a cure, and humanities new/clean start with Joel's Brother's place. What new elements do you think they have yet to introduce to the Last of Us universe?

I don't know. It's both a good and a bad thing - perhaps they have what it takes to surprise us... It's what I desperately hope for... but I guess I shouldn't keep my hopes up because I have no idea what I'd do with it if I were the writer.

I finished that game last night and I'm having all kinds of feels about it. Really happy with the game, really (really) sad that it's over... I want more, but I don't want a cheap story to be tacked on this. I'm not all that interested in side stories frankly

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If it doesn't involve at least Ellie, I don't really care much for it. The whole Joel/Ellie relationship was 95% of what made me like the game.


Either way I'll get over it sometime but for now I just want a sequel really badly. ;(
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 21:43:33
July 19 2013 21:42 GMT
#195
I've played through this game twice now and I'd consider it easily one of the very best games of this generation. It's not very often that you get a game with characters and an ending that provoke discussion not necessarily of how cool they were, but of individual interpretations of characters and events.

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I really appreciated that the ending left me feeling uncomfortable and a bit melancholy because it fit well with the tone set throughout the rest of the game. Almost nobody is purely a sinner or a saint, everyone operates with their own agendas and goals in mind, and a lot of the time they're really understandable and sympathetic. You understand why Marlene is willing to kill Ellie, she's weighing one life against the potential to ensure that humanity has at least some kind of future, but at the same time her refusal to even wake Ellie up and give her a choice or at least look her in the eye and tell her what she needs comes across as really low and cowardly. On the flipside, you've got Joel making this largely selfish decision with potentially massive and disastrous consequences, but you understand completely that after everything he's been through with Ellie, she's essentially become a second daughter to him and he won't let her come to harm for any reason.

The lie he tells her at the end is interesting, and I got the impression based on her making him swear and her long pause before saying "okay" that she knew he wasn't being honest with her but was willing to accept it, at least for the time being. I was also conflicted about the lie itself because on the one hand, hiding the fact that he killed Marlene in cold blood is a really big thing to keep from Ellie, but on the other, she had obviously been dealing with some really serious survivor's guilt/PTSD since the winter and the truth of what happened at the hospital might simply be unwise to tell her given her state of mind. Parents do lie to their kids to protect them, and often with good reason.

I don't really know how I feel about the prospect of DLC or a sequel, what Naughty Dog created here is something that's extraordinary exactly as it is. Joel and Ellie are fantastic characters and I'd love to see more of them, but their story has been told and told well. Anything added to it would have to be very carefully considered and add something meaningful.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 27 2013 06:39 GMT
#196
Does anyone know what these gifs are from? Deleted scenes from the game perhaps?

http://yencid.tumblr.com/post/14058247673/the-last-of-us-gifs

i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
July 27 2013 08:01 GMT
#197
On July 27 2013 15:39 Tachion wrote:
Does anyone know what these gifs are from? Deleted scenes from the game perhaps?

http://yencid.tumblr.com/post/14058247673/the-last-of-us-gifs



No. That was in the debut trailer during the VGA's in 2011. It's in the OP...
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 31 2013 22:41 GMT
#198
Reddit AMA going on right now with Naughty Dog:

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1jg952/hi_were_neil_druckmann_creative_director_and/
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
August 01 2013 01:22 GMT
#199
Some neat fan made movies.





An interesting video on the cordyceps virus and the what if scenario if it happens.

FreeZer
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden288 Posts
September 03 2013 08:12 GMT
#200
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I almost started crying at the end when he was running with Ellie in his arms, pretty much like the game began. And that music with it.. going "I've got you baby girl".. damn.
Ahh Scept-- hey where did you come from?
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