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Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 21:46:11
May 21 2013 21:44 GMT
#1021
On May 22 2013 06:40 jinorazi wrote:
i think that has more to do with infrastructure (steam, origin, amazon, etc. etc.) and the nature of pc(operating system, pirating, modding) rather than pc games doing better than console games just because. if console had lucrative infra like pc (which newer gen system are trying), i think it can do good. psn is shopping is pos.

Most of that stuff is impossible on a console without turning the console into a PC (which is probably inevitable someday). I think the biggest difference is just the controllers though. Some games are just almost impossible on a console controller (and some suck with a mouse/kb). MMOs need lots of buttons which console controllers don't have. And an RTS on console? Hah!
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
May 21 2013 21:45 GMT
#1022
On May 22 2013 06:14 Kenthros wrote:
This was extremely FUNNY


Oh my fucking god.

This sums up absolutely everything. The ending was the best: "I guess I'm just not their target demographic."
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
May 21 2013 21:46 GMT
#1023
On May 22 2013 06:44 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:40 ayaz2810 wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:26 Somthing_clvr wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:14 Kenthros wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyD1VlQdj2s This was extremely FUNNY

wait why is this blowing up what did it get linked on

and man I can't wait till I can SCHNAP.


Does this guy have a poster of Boxxy on his wall? If so... creepy.


Don't pretend you arn't jealous. Also he's playing a character and acting like he does for his videos. He does have several real videos where he acts normal and does real reviews etc.


Oh I'm jealous. I was around for the great Boxxy war on 4chan back in the day. I'd like a poster.... =3
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
May 21 2013 21:47 GMT
#1024
On May 22 2013 06:40 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:35 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:31 Reborn58 wrote:
Revenue is not an appropriate measuring stick, and neither are browser games. Otherwise we should include phone game sales into console sales?

Perhaps. Or a category of their own instead.

You really count someone who spends hundreds playing "farmville" a PC gamer? Come on.

As much as I count a Minecraft player as a console user.

The console market is bigger than the PC market. It's simply a fact. And they are SEPARATE markets, either way. So why compare them? Obviously you can do more with a computer - good job you figured out the most basic concept in gaming.

It's not a fact. Even discounting casual browser style games, there is a the MMO market, Steam, plus boxed games. Which is enough to at least be comparable to console games.

They are certainly somewhat different types of markets. I'm not saying that PC gaming is bigger in the area of, say, FPS games. But overall, it is bigger.


i think that has more to do with infrastructure (steam, origin, amazon, etc. etc.) and the nature of pc(operating system, pirating, modding) rather than pc games doing better than console games just because. if console had lucrative infra like pc (which newer gen system are trying), i think it can do good. psn shopping is pos.


Both would have to allow third party sellers to operate on their platforms to really establish a better online infrastructure which is extremely unlikely to ever happen. If i buy a game for PC online i can chose from dozens of websites and platform which drives competition . PSN and Xboxlive do not give me those options.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
May 21 2013 21:48 GMT
#1025
On May 22 2013 06:44 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:40 jinorazi wrote:
i think that has more to do with infrastructure (steam, origin, amazon, etc. etc.) and the nature of pc(operating system, pirating, modding) rather than pc games doing better than console games just because. if console had lucrative infra like pc (which newer gen system are trying), i think it can do good. psn is shopping is pos.

Most of that stuff is impossible on a console without turning the console into a PC (which is probably inevitable someday). I think the biggest difference is just the controllers though. Some games are just almost impossible on a console controller (and some suck with a mouse/kb). MMOs need lots of buttons which console controllers don't have. And an RTS on console? Hah!


to be fair racing games, fighting games, sports is pretty damn horrible on kb/mouse ^_~
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 21 2013 21:49 GMT
#1026
On May 22 2013 06:48 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:44 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:40 jinorazi wrote:
i think that has more to do with infrastructure (steam, origin, amazon, etc. etc.) and the nature of pc(operating system, pirating, modding) rather than pc games doing better than console games just because. if console had lucrative infra like pc (which newer gen system are trying), i think it can do good. psn is shopping is pos.

Most of that stuff is impossible on a console without turning the console into a PC (which is probably inevitable someday). I think the biggest difference is just the controllers though. Some games are just almost impossible on a console controller (and some suck with a mouse/kb). MMOs need lots of buttons which console controllers don't have. And an RTS on console? Hah!


to be fair racing games, fighting games, sports is pretty damn horrible on kb/mouse ^_~

Absolutely. Thankfully you can use wheels/whatever controller you want on PC
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 21 2013 21:52 GMT
#1027
Guy in the video's a genius... Xbox > Xbox360 = come back to Xbox One. How come I didn't see the connection. It was there all along!
Gourmand
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada101 Posts
May 21 2013 21:52 GMT
#1028
Anyone got a link of the full thing, i was at work.

Thanks.
Mattidute
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands232 Posts
May 21 2013 21:54 GMT
#1029
On May 22 2013 06:44 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:40 jinorazi wrote:
i think that has more to do with infrastructure (steam, origin, amazon, etc. etc.) and the nature of pc(operating system, pirating, modding) rather than pc games doing better than console games just because. if console had lucrative infra like pc (which newer gen system are trying), i think it can do good. psn is shopping is pos.

Most of that stuff is impossible on a console without turning the console into a PC (which is probably inevitable someday). I think the biggest difference is just the controllers though. Some games are just almost impossible on a console controller (and some suck with a mouse/kb). MMOs need lots of buttons which console controllers don't have. And an RTS on console? Hah!


A RTS wouldn't be that strange on a console, considering even the PS3 and 360 can use keyboard and mouse, just no developer activates that keyboard and mouse can be used in games for whatever reason.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
May 21 2013 21:55 GMT
#1030
On May 22 2013 06:52 Gourmand wrote:
Anyone got a link of the full thing, i was at work.

Thanks.


Same want to watch it and not just read recaps and reviews. Sony had VODS ready to watch immediately, Microsoft does not
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
May 21 2013 21:57 GMT
#1031
On May 22 2013 06:43 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:31 Reborn58 wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:28 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:26 Reborn58 wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:20 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:15 Reborn58 wrote:
You would rather they didn't include all of that? Do you realize that the console market is MUCH larger than the PC gaming market...?

A common myth but incorrect. The PC gaming market is larger than the console market.


It actually is correct. There are more console users and the amount of money spent on boxed console games is far higher than boxed PC games.

On boxed games? Yes, console numbers are higher. Boxed games doesn't count...browser games, MMOs, Steam...

Revenue seems a rather more appropriate measuring stick, and PCs are higher.


Revenue is not an appropriate measuring stick, and neither are browser games. Otherwise we should include phone game sales into console sales? You really count someone who spends hundreds playing "farmville" a PC gamer? Come on.

The console market is bigger than the PC market. It's simply a fact. And they are SEPARATE markets, either way. So why compare them? Obviously you can do more with a computer - good job you figured out the most basic concept in gaming.


Revenue isn't an appropriate measuring stick? You're right, how much money people make is a terrible way of gauging a maerket. Not including browser games the PC market is much larger than the console market. You wanted to compare them so now people are countering your argument. Boxed PC games probably don't account for 20% of all PC game purchases. Let alone the amount of pirated games. Yes pirated games contribute to the market. Because a pirater is a potential buyer.


The pirating figure is irrelevant. If we're comparing revenue then they either bought the game or they didn't. "Piracy makes them more likely to buy the game" is irrelevant here cause we're talking about a binary number, not probabilities. But the rest of your post is correct. Also there are plenty of pirates on consoles.
#2throwed
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
May 21 2013 21:57 GMT
#1032
Just use the same link as for the livestream? I watched the VoD like 3 hours ago. Page 8.
But does it djent?
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
May 21 2013 21:59 GMT
#1033
On May 22 2013 06:57 Da-Muffinman wrote:
Just use the same link as for the livestream? I watched the VoD like 3 hours ago. Page 8.


Tyvm, I searched some past pages but not all 50 or so.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
CptCutter
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom370 Posts
May 21 2013 22:05 GMT
#1034
On May 22 2013 06:44 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:40 jinorazi wrote:
i think that has more to do with infrastructure (steam, origin, amazon, etc. etc.) and the nature of pc(operating system, pirating, modding) rather than pc games doing better than console games just because. if console had lucrative infra like pc (which newer gen system are trying), i think it can do good. psn is shopping is pos.

Most of that stuff is impossible on a console without turning the console into a PC (which is probably inevitable someday). I think the biggest difference is just the controllers though. Some games are just almost impossible on a console controller (and some suck with a mouse/kb). MMOs need lots of buttons which console controllers don't have. And an RTS on console? Hah!


you say that but the control scheme for halowars was great. perhaps not as good as it would be on pc, but it wasnt bad either.
HiTeK532
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada171 Posts
May 21 2013 22:06 GMT
#1035
On May 22 2013 06:26 Reborn58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:20 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:15 Reborn58 wrote:
You would rather they didn't include all of that? Do you realize that the console market is MUCH larger than the PC gaming market...?

A common myth but incorrect. The PC gaming market is larger than the console market.


It actually is correct. There are more console users and the amount of money spent on boxed console games is far higher than boxed PC games.

They sell boxed pc games? also lol at the idea that more people use consoles than PC's You'd be incredibly hard pressed to find someone that doesn't own a PC in this day and age where as many people don't own a console.
I play games not girls
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 21 2013 22:07 GMT
#1036
On May 22 2013 07:06 HiTeK532 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:26 Reborn58 wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:20 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:15 Reborn58 wrote:
You would rather they didn't include all of that? Do you realize that the console market is MUCH larger than the PC gaming market...?

A common myth but incorrect. The PC gaming market is larger than the console market.


It actually is correct. There are more console users and the amount of money spent on boxed console games is far higher than boxed PC games.

They sell boxed pc games? also lol at the idea that more people use consoles than PC's You'd be incredibly hard pressed to find someone that doesn't own a PC in this day and age where as many people don't own a console.


i guess all those console monies must be falling from the sky
starleague forever
CptCutter
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom370 Posts
May 21 2013 22:08 GMT
#1037
On May 22 2013 07:06 HiTeK532 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:26 Reborn58 wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:20 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:15 Reborn58 wrote:
You would rather they didn't include all of that? Do you realize that the console market is MUCH larger than the PC gaming market...?

A common myth but incorrect. The PC gaming market is larger than the console market.


It actually is correct. There are more console users and the amount of money spent on boxed console games is far higher than boxed PC games.

They sell boxed pc games? also lol at the idea that more people use consoles than PC's You'd be incredibly hard pressed to find someone that doesn't own a PC in this day and age where as many people don't own a console.


i would actually say your wrong. whilst most people have pc's, most do not use them for gaming purposes.im the only one in my family that does (including cousins as far as my knowledge goes) yet a good deal of them own multiple consoles whether it be handhelds like nintendos or ps3's/xbox360's.
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
May 21 2013 22:12 GMT
#1038
Don't care about consoles- they just build them more and more like computers, only not as modable.

Sorry I'm PC for life.

I stopped buying consoles after the PS2.

I did wait 24 hours in line to buy a PS3 technically, but that was quickly sold on Ebay for over 4G so well worth it.
We Live to Die
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 21 2013 22:14 GMT
#1039
On May 22 2013 06:14 Kenthros wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyD1VlQdj2s This was extremely FUNNY


HAHAHAHAH
genius
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 21 2013 22:27 GMT
#1040
thought this was funny

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