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Kenthros
Profile Joined August 2012
United States95 Posts
May 21 2013 21:14 GMT
#1001
This was extremely FUNNY
Peace is a lie; there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
Reborn58
Profile Joined August 2010
United States238 Posts
May 21 2013 21:15 GMT
#1002
You guys are acting like by them giving the Xbox One the ability to integrate your entire TV room into one single unit takes away from the ability to perform as a gaming system. You would rather they didn't include all of that? Do you realize that the console market is MUCH larger than the PC gaming market...? And that they are catering to a lot of people who aren't elitists because they own a 2500$ computer and play games with a keyboard a mouse? Not to mention that I think it makes things extremely intelligent for Microsoft to include better integration into their system. It adds to their "ecosystem" just like Apple does. And not only that, it makes it easier on consumers to have less hardware overall, it SIMPLIFIES things. Why would you complain about a company giving you more options, simplifying things, AND giving an upgraded gaming system?

Seriously some people are never happy. What did Xbox One have to do to impress you? Come on. Consoles are what they are, PCs are what they are - they are separate entities and Xbox One looks like it takes things to the "next step" for consoles - which is exactly what it is supposed to do.
That's what she said
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 21 2013 21:20 GMT
#1003
On May 22 2013 06:15 Reborn58 wrote:
You would rather they didn't include all of that? Do you realize that the console market is MUCH larger than the PC gaming market...?

A common myth but incorrect. The PC gaming market is larger than the console market.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
May 21 2013 21:21 GMT
#1004
On May 22 2013 05:53 MaestroSC wrote:
Pretty much agree with everyone else so far...

So the new Xbox = a shitty and less optimized computer?

IDK why we are literally turning every device into a wanna be computer.

I have a smart tv, with a smart blue ray player, with a smart console?
Ill have 3 shitty wanna-be computers, along with my computer that also connects to my tv..?

I dont know why Microsoft thinks adding these things brings anything to the new console...Except now ill also need to pay a monthly fee to use my Xbox as a terrible computer...?

Looks like im switching back to Playstation for the next Gen of consoles...

I seriously HATE the direction of this industry atm.
Sell a game for 60$. Sell another part of the game for 10$. Sell the next part for 10$ And the next DLC for another 10.

How about we just do business the old way...

I pay $60, you give me the game. Not part of it. Not half of it. Not a piece of it. Give me the entire fucking game. I dont go to a restaurant... "I want a cheeseburger" Ok thats 10$. O did you want the meat? Thats another 3$. Cheese? Ok another 3$. Ketchup? $1.50 cause were not unreasonable.


Do you really think that Sony won't have DLC for the PS4? As a media hub and a gaming center Xbox is better today and will be better when the One and Ps4 are both out.
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
May 21 2013 21:22 GMT
#1005
On April 25 2013 17:45 Martijn wrote:
Come to think of it. With how prominent ddosing is becoming, with even banks becoming targets. Who in their right mind would require "always-online"? Whether you will get to play or not is at the mercy of any kid with an allowance of $20 to spend on ruining your experience.

The Dutch goverment DigiD system was down due to ddos yesterday and is down today as well. Meaning people can't use online government services. This can mean anything from not being able to file your taxes online to not being able to manage your monthly student loans. For some things, there isn't even an alternative. Managing your status as a student, how much money you'll loan that month, these can only be handled online.


Also, please don't repeat that retard Adam Orth's argument "Electricity goes out too";
ISPs have issues all the damn time, electrical companies rarely and they're monitored much more closely. Who here hasn't had issues with their ISP at some point or another?
The amount of electricity available in most houses isn't limited or has to be explicitly shared between roommates. IE; I've never been asked to unplug the fridge so someone can do laundry, whereas stopping a download is common.
I reset my modem at least a few times a month, I go without touching the breakers most years.
I don't have to worry that anyone that feels like fucking with me will ddos my electricity.

There. The end. Shitty analogy, shitty argument, shitty Adam Orth. Good luck finding a new job in this industry.

Relax :DD
http://twitch.tv/maggrig | @SC2ELVIS | http://www.facebook.com/sc2ELVIS
Reborn58
Profile Joined August 2010
United States238 Posts
May 21 2013 21:26 GMT
#1006
On May 22 2013 06:20 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:15 Reborn58 wrote:
You would rather they didn't include all of that? Do you realize that the console market is MUCH larger than the PC gaming market...?

A common myth but incorrect. The PC gaming market is larger than the console market.


It actually is correct. There are more console users and the amount of money spent on boxed console games is far higher than boxed PC games.
That's what she said
Somthing_clvr
Profile Joined February 2013
England31 Posts
May 21 2013 21:26 GMT
#1007
On May 22 2013 06:14 Kenthros wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyD1VlQdj2s This was extremely FUNNY

wait why is this blowing up what did it get linked on

and man I can't wait till I can SCHNAP.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 21 2013 21:28 GMT
#1008
On May 22 2013 06:26 Reborn58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:20 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:15 Reborn58 wrote:
You would rather they didn't include all of that? Do you realize that the console market is MUCH larger than the PC gaming market...?

A common myth but incorrect. The PC gaming market is larger than the console market.


It actually is correct. There are more console users and the amount of money spent on boxed console games is far higher than boxed PC games.

On boxed games? Yes, console numbers are higher. Boxed games doesn't count...browser games, MMOs, Steam...

Revenue seems a rather more appropriate measuring stick, and PCs are higher.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 21:31:39
May 21 2013 21:31 GMT
#1009
On May 22 2013 06:26 Reborn58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:20 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:15 Reborn58 wrote:
You would rather they didn't include all of that? Do you realize that the console market is MUCH larger than the PC gaming market...?

A common myth but incorrect. The PC gaming market is larger than the console market.


It actually is correct. There are more console users and the amount of money spent on boxed console games is far higher than boxed PC games.


Boxed yes but thats because it's easier to get the game online for a reasonable price on pc . Xboxlive and PSN charge outrageous amounts of money and have no online alternative.
Reborn58
Profile Joined August 2010
United States238 Posts
May 21 2013 21:31 GMT
#1010
On May 22 2013 06:28 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:26 Reborn58 wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:20 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:15 Reborn58 wrote:
You would rather they didn't include all of that? Do you realize that the console market is MUCH larger than the PC gaming market...?

A common myth but incorrect. The PC gaming market is larger than the console market.


It actually is correct. There are more console users and the amount of money spent on boxed console games is far higher than boxed PC games.

On boxed games? Yes, console numbers are higher. Boxed games doesn't count...browser games, MMOs, Steam...

Revenue seems a rather more appropriate measuring stick, and PCs are higher.


Revenue is not an appropriate measuring stick, and neither are browser games. Otherwise we should include phone game sales into console sales? You really count someone who spends hundreds playing "farmville" a PC gamer? Come on.

The console market is bigger than the PC market. It's simply a fact. And they are SEPARATE markets, either way. So why compare them? Obviously you can do more with a computer - good job you figured out the most basic concept in gaming.
That's what she said
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 21:35:40
May 21 2013 21:32 GMT
#1011
On May 22 2013 06:15 Reborn58 wrote:
You guys are acting like by them giving the Xbox One the ability to integrate your entire TV room into one single unit takes away from the ability to perform as a gaming system. You would rather they didn't include all of that? Do you realize that the console market is MUCH larger than the PC gaming market...? And that they are catering to a lot of people who aren't elitists because they own a 2500$ computer and play games with a keyboard a mouse? Not to mention that I think it makes things extremely intelligent for Microsoft to include better integration into their system. It adds to their "ecosystem" just like Apple does. And not only that, it makes it easier on consumers to have less hardware overall, it SIMPLIFIES things. Why would you complain about a company giving you more options, simplifying things, AND giving an upgraded gaming system?

Seriously some people are never happy. What did Xbox One have to do to impress you? Come on. Consoles are what they are, PCs are what they are - they are separate entities and Xbox One looks like it takes things to the "next step" for consoles - which is exactly what it is supposed to do.

I'd want them to show me new games like Sony did. Sony impressed me, Microsoft basically gave the same press conference they've been giving at E3 the past couple years, only all the shit they're talking about happens to be in a different box.
Michaels
Profile Joined August 2010
419 Posts
May 21 2013 21:35 GMT
#1012
Hand on new kinect 2
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 21:38:37
May 21 2013 21:35 GMT
#1013
On May 22 2013 06:31 Reborn58 wrote:
Revenue is not an appropriate measuring stick, and neither are browser games. Otherwise we should include phone game sales into console sales?

Perhaps. Or a category of their own instead.

You really count someone who spends hundreds playing "farmville" a PC gamer? Come on.

As much as I count a Minecraft player as a console user.

The console market is bigger than the PC market. It's simply a fact. And they are SEPARATE markets, either way. So why compare them? Obviously you can do more with a computer - good job you figured out the most basic concept in gaming.

It's not a fact. Even discounting casual browser style games, there is a the MMO market, Steam, plus boxed games. Which is enough to at least be comparable to console games.

They are certainly somewhat different types of markets. I'm not saying that PC gaming is bigger in the area of, say, FPS games. But overall, it is bigger.

I'm comparing them because you did......
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 21 2013 21:38 GMT
#1014
On May 22 2013 06:14 Kenthros wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyD1VlQdj2s
This was extremely FUNNY

"well...Call of Duty's got a dog..."
best part of the whole thing, and really the problem I had with MS in general. Other than that and Forza (and I guess Halo TV show, if that counts) they showed almost no games for this game console.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 21:41:16
May 21 2013 21:40 GMT
#1015
On May 22 2013 06:35 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:31 Reborn58 wrote:
Revenue is not an appropriate measuring stick, and neither are browser games. Otherwise we should include phone game sales into console sales?

Perhaps. Or a category of their own instead.
Show nested quote +

You really count someone who spends hundreds playing "farmville" a PC gamer? Come on.

As much as I count a Minecraft player as a console user.
Show nested quote +

The console market is bigger than the PC market. It's simply a fact. And they are SEPARATE markets, either way. So why compare them? Obviously you can do more with a computer - good job you figured out the most basic concept in gaming.

It's not a fact. Even discounting casual browser style games, there is a the MMO market, Steam, plus boxed games. Which is enough to at least be comparable to console games.

They are certainly somewhat different types of markets. I'm not saying that PC gaming is bigger in the area of, say, FPS games. But overall, it is bigger.


i think that has more to do with infrastructure (steam, origin, amazon, etc. etc.) and the nature of pc(operating system, pirating, modding) rather than pc games doing better than console games just because. if console had lucrative infra like pc (which newer gen system are trying), i think it can do good. psn shopping is pos.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 21:40:46
May 21 2013 21:40 GMT
#1016
On May 22 2013 06:26 Somthing_clvr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:14 Kenthros wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyD1VlQdj2s This was extremely FUNNY

wait why is this blowing up what did it get linked on

and man I can't wait till I can SCHNAP.


Does this guy have a poster of Boxxy on his wall? If so... creepy.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
May 21 2013 21:41 GMT
#1017
On May 22 2013 06:38 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:14 Kenthros wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyD1VlQdj2s
This was extremely FUNNY

"well...Call of Duty's got a dog..."
best part of the whole thing, and really the problem I had with MS in general. Other than that and Forza (and I guess Halo TV show, if that counts) they showed almost no games for this game console.


I'm pretty sure as German i'll have to resort to watching a stream / downloading the Halo episodes anyway if i don't want to wait months or even years to get the show here . ( not to mention it'll be dubbed by then which is allways shitty anyway )
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 21 2013 21:42 GMT
#1018
On May 22 2013 06:40 ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:26 Somthing_clvr wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:14 Kenthros wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyD1VlQdj2s This was extremely FUNNY

wait why is this blowing up what did it get linked on

and man I can't wait till I can SCHNAP.


Does this guy have a poster of Boxxy on his wall? If so... creepy.

I saw this guy's vids before, pretty sure someone said that he's playing a character and that's not how he really acts or talks.

And if he is, and he has a Boxxy poster to play that character...very well done.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
May 21 2013 21:43 GMT
#1019
On May 22 2013 06:31 Reborn58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:28 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:26 Reborn58 wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:20 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:15 Reborn58 wrote:
You would rather they didn't include all of that? Do you realize that the console market is MUCH larger than the PC gaming market...?

A common myth but incorrect. The PC gaming market is larger than the console market.


It actually is correct. There are more console users and the amount of money spent on boxed console games is far higher than boxed PC games.

On boxed games? Yes, console numbers are higher. Boxed games doesn't count...browser games, MMOs, Steam...

Revenue seems a rather more appropriate measuring stick, and PCs are higher.


Revenue is not an appropriate measuring stick, and neither are browser games. Otherwise we should include phone game sales into console sales? You really count someone who spends hundreds playing "farmville" a PC gamer? Come on.

The console market is bigger than the PC market. It's simply a fact. And they are SEPARATE markets, either way. So why compare them? Obviously you can do more with a computer - good job you figured out the most basic concept in gaming.


Revenue isn't an appropriate measuring stick? You're right, how much money people make is a terrible way of gauging a maerket. Not including browser games the PC market is much larger than the console market. You wanted to compare them so now people are countering your argument. Boxed PC games probably don't account for 20% of all PC game purchases. Let alone the amount of pirated games. Yes pirated games contribute to the market. Because a pirater is a potential buyer.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
May 21 2013 21:44 GMT
#1020
On May 22 2013 06:40 ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 06:26 Somthing_clvr wrote:
On May 22 2013 06:14 Kenthros wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyD1VlQdj2s This was extremely FUNNY

wait why is this blowing up what did it get linked on

and man I can't wait till I can SCHNAP.


Does this guy have a poster of Boxxy on his wall? If so... creepy.


Don't pretend you arn't jealous. Also he's playing a character and acting like he does for his videos. He does have several real videos where he acts normal and does real reviews etc.
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