The XBox Thread - Page 143

On June 14 2013 05:40 rezoacken wrote:


Did you just make a down to earth analysis of that parody picture ?

On June 14 2013 05:40 Fruscainte wrote:


Are you being paid for this?

Serious question, considering the patents Microsoft filed say the explicit purpose of the Kinect is to watch you and data mine you so it can generate ad data specifically for you.

Also, U.S. has the worst internet infrastructure in the developed world. I'd say having forced internet is quite a legitimate concern for its citizens.

On June 14 2013 05:50 maartendq wrote:

So, you mean like google does every time you use one of their search tools? Or like facebook does every time you "like" something. Or twitter, or pretty much anything on the internet? Even the ads on teamliquid are personalised (for those who don't run adblock, of course).

And for the umpteenth time, there is no such thing as forced internet. All you have to do is ping microsoft once every 24 hours. I have this feeling that the majority of the people complaining about the online portion of the xbone are people who are online 24/7, be it on their computer, tablet or smartphone, and it's getting a bit annoying.

On June 14 2013 05:27 takingbackoj wrote:


PS4 allows and leaves the decision of DRM up to third party developers.

On June 14 2013 05:27 takingbackoj wrote:

If your internet dies its useless? See ONCE A DAY check in. And I would have never guess there were so many people with such bad internet to where they couldn't check in every 24 hours but still have enough internet to troll forums and complain about not having internet. Too funny.

On June 14 2013 05:27 takingbackoj wrote:

If I transport it to India? Hahaha, the comedy of the internet rage crowd is an amazing cross between funny and pitiful.

On June 14 2013 05:43 jinorazi wrote:


one of must defend his king against all atrocities

On June 14 2013 05:52 Fruscainte wrote:


So if you don't access the Xbox One with an internet connection once every 24 hours, you will be denied access to playing the games you purchased with your money? Even if it's a physical disc?

That sounds like forced internet to me, chief.

On June 14 2013 05:53 takingbackoj wrote:

I have no stock in MS. I would like to know more about it thought. The complaints being thrown arent really helping any discussion at all. They are just complaints from the rage train. Bring some substance to the discussion. If you think the Kinect is plotting your assassination or if you live on the Himalayas with no internet connection then MS has pretty much said they don't care about you. That sucks but its not worth discussing really.

Its just pretty annoying to have to sift through all of the ridiculous comments just to find something substantive in this thread. I.E. whether cloud processing will actually be useful, or what their used game policy actually is and how it will affect things.

On June 14 2013 05:27 takingbackoj wrote:

The price issue is accurate and a large blow to Xbox One.
PS4 allows and leaves the decision of DRM up to third party developers.
Does the Kinect watch you? Take the tinfoil hat off. Its no different than a cell phone.
Requires internet. True and that is bad.
Features that probably wont work? Lol, pathetic reach.
If your internet dies its useless? See ONCE A DAY check in. And I would have never guess there were so many people with such bad internet to where they couldn't check in every 24 hours but still have enough internet to troll forums and complain about not having internet. Too funny.
If I transport it to India? Hahaha, the comedy of the internet rage crowd is an amazing cross between funny and pitiful.

On June 14 2013 05:56 maartendq wrote:

Yes, just like Blizzard does with Starcraft 2 (albeit after a week or so) and Steam does for its service as well. Besides, if you're a EU or US citizen, you'd have to literally be living in the middle of nowhere to not have an internet connection of some sort.

It's quite ironic, actually, the vast majority of people complaining about the internet requirement belong to a generation that hasn't even lived in a pre-internet world.

On June 14 2013 05:56 maartendq wrote:

Yes, just like Blizzard does with Starcraft 2 (albeit after a week or so) and Steam does for its service as well. Besides, if you're a EU or US citizen, you'd have to literally be living in the middle of nowhere to not have an internet connection of some sort.

It's quite ironic, actually, the vast majority of people complaining about the internet requirement belong to a generation that hasn't even lived in a pre-internet world.

On June 14 2013 05:50 maartendq wrote:

So, you mean like google does every time you use one of their search tools? Or like facebook does every time you "like" something. Or twitter, or pretty much anything on the internet? Even the ads on teamliquid are personalised (for those who don't run adblock, of course).

And for the umpteenth time, there is no such thing as forced internet. All you have to do is ping microsoft once every 24 hours. I have this feeling that the majority of the people complaining about the online portion of the xbone are people who are online 24/7, be it on their computer, tablet or smartphone, and it's getting a bit annoying.

On June 14 2013 05:52 Masheyoon wrote:



Refers to playing used games online only: http://www.gamefront.com/sony-third-party-drm-refers-to-playing-used-games-online-only/

Big difference.



As others have said, online infrastructure in the US isn't great. Then you have hypothetical situations that leave you without internet for a good while (i.e., storms, traveling).



Is it wrong of someone to travel to the US, purchase a video game console and later return with that console to their home country?

The United States accounts for much of the innovation in web technology today, yet the country ranks as low as 16th in the world in percent of residents with broadband access.

Thus, modern Internet infrastructure development has strongly favored urban areas. For example, since DSL lines must be connected to a central hub with a maximal proximity, it is easy to see how dense populations achieve higher efficiency and rural areas are relatively overlooked. This has resulted in limited broadband access and much lower average download rates in outlying communities.

On June 14 2013 05:53 takingbackoj wrote:

I have no stock in MS. I would like to know more about it thought. The complaints being thrown arent really helping any discussion at all. They are just complaints from the rage train. Bring some substance to the discussion. If you think the Kinect is plotting your assassination or if you live on the Himalayas with no internet connection then MS has pretty much said they don't care about you. That sucks but its not worth discussing really.

Its just pretty annoying to have to sift through all of the ridiculous comments just to find something substantive in this thread. I.E. whether cloud processing will actually be useful, or what their used game policy actually is and how it will affect things.

On June 14 2013 06:14 Stratos_speAr wrote:


It's not a matter of "having the internet". It's a matter of having reliable internet.

Oh, and do you even knowing what region locking is and why people are mentioning the hypothetical scenario of buying an XB1 in the U.S. and then moving?

On June 14 2013 06:00 Fruscainte wrote:


Except that's wrong. I logged into Steam just fine after booting my Desktop without any internet connection. In fact I played all of my singleplayer games just fine from Steam while completely offline. I don't know where you're getting this notion from that Steam locks you out if you don't "check in" online. Also, I live dead center in Orlando. Right next to UCF, you know, a major college. I also lived in the middle of Miami at one point in my life, also dealt with internet outages regularly during the summer there.

You guys are whining that you want a more intellectual honest discussion but here you go again saying that the only reason anyone ever would not have internet is when they're in a third world country in a village that hasn't discovered it yet. As if there aren't dozens of places in the developed world where you can't access internet where you'd want to play an Xbox One and there are dozens of situations that would leave you without internet for a prolonged period of time.

I fail to see how your last sentence is even remotely relevant to the situation at hand. If anything it seems like a half attempt at an ad hominem.

You seem to just keep falling back on this idea that Microsoft says people who want to play without internet just aren't the customers for them and they should get a PS4 instead. What I don't understand is why Microsoft is doing this in the first freaking place. There's actually no reason other than forcing people to stay online so the Kinect can spy on you some more.

EDIT:

Google saving that I typed in "Asian Ass Porn" one day so that it knows I like asian ass porn for when it advertises to me is just a bit different, just slightly though, than a camera being put in my room that monitors my heartbeat, my emotions, my facial expressions, my personality, and scans my rooms for products to know what I enjoy so it can target advertisements toward me.