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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 06:58:19
May 25 2013 06:58 GMT
#3761
it's like a BW vs SC2 debate
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 25 2013 06:59 GMT
#3762
The elephant in the room is LeBron's pivot foot?
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
May 25 2013 07:00 GMT
#3763
The Koreans are the Heat, the foreigners are everyone else in the east.
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
May 25 2013 07:01 GMT
#3764
On May 25 2013 13:25 Ace wrote:
I don't know where you got that from but you probably don't understand what traveling is or how a player establishes a pivot. You can't have a pivot foot if you catch the ball on the move but I'll leave this here.

From NBA.com http://www.nba.com/nba101/misunderstood_0708.html

Show nested quote +

Traveling:
To start a dribble after establishing a pivot foot, the ball must be released from the player’s hand before his pivot foot leaves the floor or he has committed a traveling violation. A player who receives the ball while moving is allowed a two count rhythm but must release the ball prior to the third step touching the floor. When ending his dribble a player may use a two count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or shooting. A player who fall s to the floor while holding the ball or while coming to a stop may not gain an advantage by rolling on the floor. A player who attempts a shot may not be the first to touch the ball if it fails to touch the backboard, rim or another player. If a player comes to a stop on the count of one when both feet are on the floor or touch the floor simultaneously, he may pivot using either foot as his pivot. If he alights with both feet he must release the ball before either foot touches the floor. If a player has one foot on the floor or lands with one foot first to the floor, he may only pivot with that foot. Once that foot is lifted from the floor to shoot or pass it may not return until the ball is released. If a player jumps off one foot on the count of one he may land with both feet simultaneously for count two. In this situation, the player may not pivot with either foot and if one or both feet leave the floor the ball must be released before either return to the floor. When a player gathers the ball he may not step consecutively with the same foot, as in a hopping motion.


I put the part that is relative to Lebron's move in red. Read it carefully.


Ace's post solves this question. Lebron did not travel. Case closed.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 25 2013 07:01 GMT
#3765
On May 25 2013 16:00 seiferoth10 wrote:
The Koreans are the Heat, the foreigners are everyone else in the east.


haha nice

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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
May 25 2013 08:17 GMT
#3766
On May 25 2013 15:51 L3gendary wrote:
He was about to do it, yes, but the ball hasn't left his hand, and yes it does say in the rules it has to actually leave his hand, re-read rule b if you didn't catch that.

And I've shown clearly that FIBA, NCAA and NFHS follow my definition of the pivot (or do you not agree?) and also the NBA rule is also consistent with this definition of the pivot because as it says you need to hold the ball, not stand still. The only difference with standing is that you can use either foot as the pivot, as in the rule you stated. I don't even know what your arguments are, that pivoting is entirely different in the NBA compared to everywhere else? Even though the rules do not say it?

The pivot definition from page 2 of the NBA rulebook was quoted at you specifically as was the NBA rule on travelling. How the hell are you so bad at comprehending an opposing argument? It seems you're just trying to save face at this point because you were comprehensively shut down by Ace. Reading the last few pages was painful just because you seem incapable of rational argument.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
matko5
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia385 Posts
May 25 2013 08:30 GMT
#3767
Is Miami just messing with me and refusing to beat everyone 4:0?
Disi gazda
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
May 25 2013 09:10 GMT
#3768
On May 25 2013 16:00 seiferoth10 wrote:
The Koreans are the Heat, the foreigners are everyone else in the east.


Then are the Pacers Stephano?
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Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
May 25 2013 09:54 GMT
#3769
Paul George is now my favourite young player.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 10:28:51
May 25 2013 10:17 GMT
#3770
I do think it was traveling by the rules, but not by the way the NBA has actually been called for 20+ years. Not because of the pivot, but because of the steps and his uneven hop step. He actually takes 3.5 steps, not counting the immediate step after catching the ball.



So it's silly to argue over. I'm pretty sure Jordan was allowed that and probably Magic too. And certainly Paul George too.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/6035/nba-traveling-we-really-don-t-reference-the-rulebook
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
May 25 2013 13:39 GMT
#3771
On May 25 2013 19:17 Jibba wrote:
I do think it was traveling by the rules, but not by the way the NBA has actually been called for 20+ years. Not because of the pivot, but because of the steps and his uneven hop step. He actually takes 3.5 steps, not counting the immediate step after catching the ball.

http://youtu.be/pItFGPf2DV4

So it's silly to argue over. I'm pretty sure Jordan was allowed that and probably Magic too. And certainly Paul George too.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/6035/nba-traveling-we-really-don-t-reference-the-rulebook


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Card5harko6
Profile Joined December 2008
United States90 Posts
May 25 2013 20:11 GMT
#3772
Wade deserves 1 game suspension for his hit on Lance.. Will he get it? Probably not.
Rekrul: It's an ancient strategy that many nowadays say is outdated ... It's like the broadsword to today's guns. But if you're not expecting it: You can get your head cut off.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
May 25 2013 20:13 GMT
#3773
Even though I've grown to like Lebron James, I'm rooting for the Pacers this series. So when the heat lose this season, they'll be more hungry for a championship next season, and they'll be more driven to beat OKC in the finals, when OKC is back at full strength with westbrook
=)=
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 21:15:23
May 25 2013 21:15 GMT
#3774
That game 1 last play was a travel, his pivot foot did leave the ground before he started his dribble. But I think that you can only really only tell in slow motion. It was probably pretty bang-bang in real-time, and this sort of travel is called fairly frequently in the NBA, but only when the pivot foot is up more blatantly. For this to be called on the King at the end of a playoff game in that situation, it would have had to be far more obvious than it was. However, if there was an NFL- style replay analysis for this sort thing in the last minute, Pacers would be up 2-0.

It's pretty huge for the Pacers that they can win the series by holding their home court. I know they were up last year, but this is a far better version of Indiana. At the start of the playoffs, I figured the Pacers had the best chance of any team to topple the Heat. Their frontcourt is beastly.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 01:26:51
May 26 2013 01:26 GMT
#3775
Brutal start for Spurs. 7 TOs in half a quarter and can't buy a bucket.

So bad that Pop pulls all 5 starters. Hilarious, but probably necessary to get a spark. This team is stagnating really bad atm.

Edit: More turnovers and missed shots by the bench players. No way this can continue all game, can it?
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
May 26 2013 01:39 GMT
#3776
What a terrible quarter for the Spurs. They need some nasty.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
May 26 2013 01:42 GMT
#3777
Well if we were gonna have a quarter like that, at least it was the first
Yhamm is the god of predictions
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 01:45:08
May 26 2013 01:44 GMT
#3778
Almost convinced I am a curse on the teams I want to win. Watch Heat-IND game 1 all the way through, IND loses. Stop watching Heat-IND game 2 at halftime and only get updates, IND wins. Just started watching MEM-SAS game 1 and MEM is blowing out the Spurs. Watched the previous 2 games and they lost both times...
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 26 2013 01:47 GMT
#3779
Tony Allen with 4 field goals? Dafuck
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 01:51:17
May 26 2013 01:50 GMT
#3780
On May 26 2013 10:47 DystopiaX wrote:
Tony Allen with 4 field goals? Dafuck


3 were near uncontested lay-ups (part of the EIGHT TOs the spurs had in the first). The other a floater like 5 ft from the basket. He already air balled a jumper from the wing as well.
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