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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:43:36
October 23 2012 19:21 GMT
#1
Hello Teamliquid, I have made this thread for those interested in joining a TeamLiquid Touhou competition. I realize there is already a Touhou thread, but the main thing that is discussed there is music, and a competition thread like this should probably stay separate from that thread.

Introduction to Touhou
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For those of you that don’t know, Touhou is a series of games where you control a character that flies on the screen and shoots enemies while dodging bullets. People regularly call it a bullet-hell game because of the amount of projectiles that you must dodge. To compensate for the insane amount of bullets on screen, your character has a small hitbox. You earn points by collecting blue score point items as close to the top of the screen as you can (the higher you collect, the more points), staying alive, and defeating bosses without using bombs or losing a life. Bombs grant you temporary invincibility and differ between the different characters you choose. Each game is a little different from the others but most of them follow this general format (at least the ones we’ll be playing in this competition). Controls are Shift (focus attack and slow down), Z (shoot), X (bomb), and Ctrl (skip dialogue).
This is what Touhou looks like:
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How this will work

The competition starts with the creation of this thread. This will be a competition seeing who can get the highest score for a particular Touhou game and difficulty. Scores have to be gained after the competition is started.

If you would like to join the competition, just submit a replay of any game and difficulty by emailing me it as an attachment (Epishade@gmail.com). I will add your replay and score to the leaderboards as soon as I can.

Rules/Regulations

1. Name your replay after your TeamLiquid profile. If it doesn’t fit, abbreviate it so I can at least tell who it is. If you abbreviate, please tell me your full profile name as well in the email.
2. If you submit a replay, and it is an old replay, not done during the time of the competition, or is not named after your TeamLiquid profile, I will not add it.
3. You can submit more replays if you play through the game again and receive a higher score.

Support for those who have questions/trouble
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For trouble getting the games to work, I have 2 suggestions. Download DirectX to your computer. It’s basically software used for people who make Windows games that will allow you to run Touhou. My other suggestion is to change your system locale to Japanese. To do this, go to Control Panel - Clock, Language, Region - Regional and Language Options - Administrative - Change system locale... Japanese. This is for Vista and it might be slightly different on other Operating Systems. If you still can’t get the games to work, post below and maybe someone can help you.

For those wanting to join, but don’t have the games, send me a pm.

How to watch replays: Click on the cell containing the replay and highlight the cell description "URL" near the top. Copy with ctrl + c. Paste in browser URL. Download replay. Find replay in Winrar and move that replay file to the replay folder of the respective Touhou game.

I also recommend, before playing the game, to check out the Touhou wiki and look up how the specific game works, and what strategies or characters you might want to use for that game.


Feel free to discuss your replays, someone else’s replays, suggestions, observations or w/e in this thread. If I get a larger turnout than I expect, I may appoint someone to help. Likewise, if nobody joins, I’ll probably can this project or transfer ownership.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 20:13:06
October 23 2012 19:21 GMT
#2
Leaderboards Information

The main Touhou games (and the separate leaderboards for each game) we will be using for this competition will be:

6 (Embodiment of Scarlet Devil)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agxv3mLAZ3vgdHhIQUFjd1BIT3dRcHdnSHNNLUgzN2c
7 (Perfect Cherry Blossom)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agxv3mLAZ3vgdFNVeFI0VVZnc1lVa3Nxa2FVS1A2bnc
8 (Imperishable Night)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agxv3mLAZ3vgdGJrbHlVaTNlckRYWkRiTEVHZlNJeEE
10 (Mountain of Faith)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agxv3mLAZ3vgdFJOOEZnWW1jdnp6cGNrTXBEM0ZzZmc
11 (Subterranean Animism)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agxv3mLAZ3vgdDVzbDVNb1dxbjNjZmFjelNzOVZ3QlE
12 (Undefined Fantastic Object)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agxv3mLAZ3vgdFU4RGV6ZFBJOGQ1YUVaMUtSLV80Smc
13 (Ten Desires)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agxv3mLAZ3vgdElydV9lc2txb1BFVzlCdGJVOGw3OEE

Extra Mode for the games
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agxv3mLAZ3vgdFg0VXJ4OGFTbW5HMm1ocXo2MHdwQkE

When you join the competition by sending me a replay, I'll add your name on the leaderboards.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Triflux
Profile Joined August 2011
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:54:53
October 24 2012 02:12 GMT
#3
Definitely joining! Atm, I'm trying to 1cc hard mode and clearing an extra stage. Except I can't get replays to work. I tried saving a replay in game, but the file never appears in the replay folder in the rar. I get error messages saying the volume cannot be modified or whatever, does that have something to do with it?

edit: nvm got replays to work, turns out I was too dumb to extract the files from the rar into a folder...
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
October 24 2012 02:37 GMT
#4
On October 24 2012 11:12 Triflux wrote:
Definitely joining! Atm, I'm trying to 1cc hard mode and clearing an extra stage. Except I can't get replays to work. I tried saving a replay in game, but the file never appears in the replay folder in the rar. I get error messages saying the volume cannot be modified or whatever, does that have something to do with it?


I'm not quite sure how to fix this problem. I've never gotten replay saving errors or volume errors. All I could recommend is to redownload the games to see if that works.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
October 24 2012 04:56 GMT
#5
Haven't seriously touched a Touhou game in about a year but I'll give it a shot

Any particular reason why no extra stages?
i wear a kitten scarf
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
October 24 2012 14:59 GMT
#6
no IaMP
Only thing I can actually play lol
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 18:59:24
October 24 2012 18:37 GMT
#7
On October 24 2012 13:56 Imbajoe wrote:
Haven't seriously touched a Touhou game in about a year but I'll give it a shot

Any particular reason why no extra stages?


Extra stages require you to beat the game on normal with no continues? I think. Since some people are not able to do this, I left them out.

Also updated the leaderboard with your score.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
October 25 2012 00:30 GMT
#8
people can just get the score data to unlock the extra stages
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 01:32:46
October 25 2012 00:33 GMT
#9
Hey this is a cool idea, I might have to try playing again.

There's no order on your spreadsheet though, should be ranked from highest to lowest, meaning you would probably have to redo the format that it looks like you have atm
Vestrel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada271 Posts
October 25 2012 01:48 GMT
#10
I'm not very good, but I love Touhou and this is cool

Trying to make my first 1CC ;_; iz so hard
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
October 25 2012 01:53 GMT
#11
On October 25 2012 10:48 Vestrel wrote:
I'm not very good, but I love Touhou and this is cool

Trying to make my first 1CC ;_; iz so hard


Haha, I have trouble making it too. I often have to redo a lot of my playthroughs because I die like 2-3 times in a row to something stupid. But again, doesn't matter if you're good or not. A lot of people are saying that they are not good so they don't want to join, but being bad at this game is probably normal for most people.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 02:54:19
October 25 2012 02:15 GMT
#12
I'm as rusty as a rusty doorknob. Time to pick up 11 again, serious training time gogogo.

edit: Oh god the person below me is scaring me lol XD I can only do normals and some hards and extras, that's my limit :X, Lunatic is a whole other ballgame D:
I post only when my brain works.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
October 25 2012 02:16 GMT
#13
I'll submit some runs I love touhou. Can't wait till we get to Subterranean Animism Lunatic.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
October 25 2012 02:21 GMT
#14
On October 25 2012 09:33 Anomarad wrote:
Hey this is a cool idea, I might have to try playing again.

There's no order on your spreadsheet though, should be ranked from highest to lowest, meaning you would probably have to redo the format that it looks like you have atm


I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. I ranked it from lowest to highest (ie. Touhou 6 first, Touhou 13 last). I did it this way based on the order of the series (usually you start with the beginning and go up), and also because I believe 6 is a little easier than the other games and would be good to start with. Are you saying you want it to be ranked Touhou 13 first and then Touhou 6 last, or did I misunderstand?
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Triflux
Profile Joined August 2011
United States15 Posts
October 25 2012 03:25 GMT
#15
Ha my run was so messy. Died to Rumia, Patchy, and 3 times to Sakuya lmao.
plasmastorm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada15 Posts
October 25 2012 03:49 GMT
#16
Awesome, I'll give this a shot tonight!
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
October 25 2012 05:18 GMT
#17
Seeing this many people show interest in this is awesome!

I gave another attempt tonight (gotta beat Triflux ), got about 83~ million. Once I'm done with midterms tomorrow evening I'm gonna give it some more serious attempts, lots of room to improve
i wear a kitten scarf
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 07:40:51
October 25 2012 07:35 GMT
#18
On October 25 2012 11:21 Epishade wrote:
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On October 25 2012 09:33 Anomarad wrote:
Hey this is a cool idea, I might have to try playing again.

There's no order on your spreadsheet though, should be ranked from highest to lowest, meaning you would probably have to redo the format that it looks like you have atm


I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. I ranked it from lowest to highest (ie. Touhou 6 first, Touhou 13 last). I did it this way based on the order of the series (usually you start with the beginning and go up), and also because I believe 6 is a little easier than the other games and would be good to start with. Are you saying you want it to be ranked Touhou 13 first and then Touhou 6 last, or did I misunderstand?


I mean the players' scores
Epishade, Imbajoe, Vestrel, and Triflux's scores aren't in the order of highest points. It should be sortable, no? Maybe you should have a separate sheet for each game so you can sort more easily. 1st 2nd 3rd etc... you have that currently but this way it would make it easier to see 4th and on.
plasmastorm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada15 Posts
October 25 2012 10:30 GMT
#19
This is tougher than I remember.. I even died on Rumia. > Touhou 6 is my least played touhou..

I've managed to beat all the games on easy before, but only ever cleared mountain of faith and imperishable night on normal, and MoF was 1 time after a couple weeks of practice. I'm nowhere near lunatic playing level :D
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 12:04:00
October 25 2012 11:37 GMT
#20
I can't record replays in EoSD for some reason. It's the only one though, I know i can in the others.
Can I enter anyway ?
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Just did 76492900 :x
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
October 25 2012 18:45 GMT
#21
On October 25 2012 20:37 tyr wrote:
I can't record replays in EoSD for some reason. It's the only one though, I know i can in the others.
Can I enter anyway ?
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Just did 76492900 :x


Well, to submit your score, you'll need a replay. You can submit for the other games once they unlock though. Maybe try re-downloading EoSD and seeing if that works?

On October 25 2012 16:35 Anomarad wrote:
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On October 25 2012 11:21 Epishade wrote:
On October 25 2012 09:33 Anomarad wrote:
Hey this is a cool idea, I might have to try playing again.

There's no order on your spreadsheet though, should be ranked from highest to lowest, meaning you would probably have to redo the format that it looks like you have atm


I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. I ranked it from lowest to highest (ie. Touhou 6 first, Touhou 13 last). I did it this way based on the order of the series (usually you start with the beginning and go up), and also because I believe 6 is a little easier than the other games and would be good to start with. Are you saying you want it to be ranked Touhou 13 first and then Touhou 6 last, or did I misunderstand?


I mean the players' scores
Epishade, Imbajoe, Vestrel, and Triflux's scores aren't in the order of highest points. It should be sortable, no? Maybe you should have a separate sheet for each game so you can sort more easily. 1st 2nd 3rd etc... you have that currently but this way it would make it easier to see 4th and on.


Ah I see what you mean now. It probably should be sorted in order of highest score to lowest, instead of it being whoever joins up first being listed first like it is now. Granted, I'm not a master in excel/google spreadsheet so I'm exactly sure how to do automatic sorting based on scores while still keeping the replays and names in order. I'll look into it though.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
October 25 2012 18:59 GMT
#22
I guess I'll wait for the other games then.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 25 2012 19:12 GMT
#23
Oh man, my brother is obsessed with these games, utterly obsessed. Do they have English versions/
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 25 2012 19:14 GMT
#24
There are English patches, but you need to download them separately. You can find them here:

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/English_patches
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
October 25 2012 19:38 GMT
#25
On October 26 2012 04:12 FabledIntegral wrote:
Oh man, my brother is obsessed with these games, utterly obsessed. Do they have English versions/

On October 26 2012 04:14 Archas wrote:
There are English patches, but you need to download them separately. You can find them here:

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/English_patches

If you find the right one, it sometimes usually has the english patches already installed. At least, that's how I did mine.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 25 2012 19:49 GMT
#26
Interesting... I've never had that happen for me. Well, in any case, the resources for the English patches are here now, if anyone needs access to them.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
October 25 2012 20:03 GMT
#27
I can't even beat imperishable night iirc.... (I get up to the 4th stage where you fight either reimu/marisa... and die) lol


and iirc people say imperishable night is the easiest of the touhou games

Derp (Ten desires I get around 2-3 stages in and need to spam continues until I die too... 12.8... Lawl)
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
October 25 2012 20:39 GMT
#28
for those who are new, there is a patch separate from the English translation patch called the Vsync patch. It bascially reduces the input lag in the earlier Windows games. I'll try to find a link when I get home
i wear a kitten scarf
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 21:22:17
October 25 2012 20:47 GMT
#29
Great idea, hurray! The touhou community is like in slo-mo right now because there's not much to discuss or play together.
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
October 26 2012 01:55 GMT
#30
On October 26 2012 05:39 Imbajoe wrote:
for those who are new, there is a patch separate from the English translation patch called the Vsync patch. It bascially reduces the input lag in the earlier Windows games. I'll try to find a link when I get home


Here's a link to the Vsync patch downloads
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Game_Tools_and_Modifications#Vsync_Patches

I looked at the readme included and it contains good instructions to get everything running.
i wear a kitten scarf
Triflux
Profile Joined August 2011
United States15 Posts
October 26 2012 02:25 GMT
#31
On October 26 2012 10:55 Imbajoe wrote:
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On October 26 2012 05:39 Imbajoe wrote:
for those who are new, there is a patch separate from the English translation patch called the Vsync patch. It bascially reduces the input lag in the earlier Windows games. I'll try to find a link when I get home


Here's a link to the Vsync patch downloads
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Game_Tools_and_Modifications#Vsync_Patches

I looked at the readme included and it contains good instructions to get everything running.

Wow, this helps out a ton. Thanks for this!
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
October 26 2012 03:51 GMT
#32
It's been way too long... so many unused bombs
Trust in Bayes.
BajaBlood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 04:41:29
October 26 2012 04:38 GMT
#33
Wonder if this will finally be my motivation to 1cc UFO lunatic when that unlocks. It's still the one thing I haven't done.

Also was disappointed by the lack of bonus points after stage 5 - thought I was going to be able to take the lead but ended up a little short

Edit: Also wtf at the world record for EOSD easy. Certainly there was going to be room for improvement, but I'd never have thought it was possible to score almost 2x what I did. MATSU OP
ElyAs
Profile Joined December 2009
France205 Posts
October 26 2012 05:22 GMT
#34
That's a cool idea ! Gonna pick those game again to see if i can beat my previous runs.

IIRC EOSD is not the easiest one... if you play the game without a Hitbox patch, it can be quite brutal at times. Still have bad memories of Sakuya trying to knife me from all directions
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
October 26 2012 05:52 GMT
#35
Great idea!
I'll be trying some runs, just the motivation I need to try a little harder.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 19:08:39
October 26 2012 19:07 GMT
#36
Ok, took me a while but I updated the leaderboards now. Takes me about 4 minutes for each replay haha. I've also been thinking about making a few changes to this competition. Should I re-lock games after we are through with them? It would be easier for me if we just stuck with a single game at a time then having people submitting scores for any game that has been unlocked. I would think that maybe when we start some mode on the next game, I will lock the previous game so that no new scores can be submitted. It would be a pain to have to change Touhou 6 while we are on Touhou 11 or something, and then have someone notice that they got knocked out of first place by the new score.
Poll: Lock games eventually

Yes (4)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Lock games eventually

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Poll: If yes, when should I lock game?

When easy mode for 2 games ahead is unlocked, lock the first game (2)
 
67%

After normal mode is unlocked (1)
 
33%

After easy mode is unlocked (0)
 
0%

After hard mode is unlocked (0)
 
0%

After lunatic mode is unlocked (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: If yes, when should I lock game?

(Vote): After easy mode is unlocked
(Vote): After normal mode is unlocked
(Vote): After hard mode is unlocked
(Vote): After lunatic mode is unlocked
(Vote): When easy mode for 2 games ahead is unlocked, lock the first game



Also just a reminder that tomorrow I'm unlocking normal mode at 10:00 KST.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
October 26 2012 20:40 GMT
#37
I'm fine with either way, it might be an interesting idea to tryout, and if it's easier for you to have games lock, that should be taken into account. The connotation I get from "TeamLiquid Touhou Leaderboards" is that its simply the the best player for that mode, and setting a time limit on that adds another dimension that may be good or bad for competition, but really isn't part of the game.

At the very least, I don't think locking a game when the next game easy mode becomes available is a good idea. If I understand your time schedule correctly, that would leave less than a week for Lunatic runs, which should be given plenty of time for people to play.

Another thing to consider is that if we set games/modes to be locked at some determined date, then that might encourage individuals to hold onto a new top score until the the last day before submitting so that other people don't have the ability see and try to specifically beat that, which would somewhat ruin the feel and fun of this type of competition. This could be worked around by making a rule that you have to submit a run within a couple of days of the score being obtained, going by the date on the replay. Just something to consider.

I'm also in favor of adding in extra modes
i wear a kitten scarf
BajaBlood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 22:59:00
October 26 2012 22:56 GMT
#38
I agree with Imbajoe that 1 week for posting Lunatic scores is pretty short, but some of the other choices have the games open for longer than probably necessary (particularly the easy modes, which could be open as long as 2 months if the final option is chosen)

My proposal would be to have 1 game open at a time and let people submit scores for any difficulty during that time (say, 1 month). Then, once the next game opens up, stop accepting scores for the previous one.

I definitely like the suggestion of requiring replays to be sent in within a short time of them being created (a day or so). If you just spent 25 mins on a runthrough, surely you can spare another minute or two to ship the replay off then as well.

Finally, it might be worth considering preventing Lunatic-level players such as myself from filling the top of the Easy and Normal leaderboards to make the races more interesting for newer players (or perhaps there are other ways to group scores to accomplish the same). Not sure what a fair way to do this would be, though. Obviously, all these choices are completely up to you, though - and don't be afraid to prioritize running it in a way that is most convenient for you. We're just happy to be participating at all :D
plasmastorm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada15 Posts
October 27 2012 00:30 GMT
#39
Darn I don't know how you guys are getting 90mil+. I thought my run was really good but I only came up with 67mil. :/
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 00:53:53
October 27 2012 00:53 GMT
#40
@plasmastorm Depending on time and graze, that will be a huge boost. The more you graze, the greater your potential score will be.
I post only when my brain works.
Triflux
Profile Joined August 2011
United States15 Posts
October 27 2012 01:04 GMT
#41
On October 27 2012 09:30 plasmastorm wrote:
Darn I don't know how you guys are getting 90mil+. I thought my run was really good but I only came up with 67mil. :/

This might be a no-brainer but a large part of scoring (aside from grazing, star items, etc) is beating spell cards as quickly as possible and getting the bonus from them and getting to the POC as often as possible, especially in stage 4. There might be parts in stage 4 where you might be reluctant to get up there but getting all the items is easier than you might think in easy mode. Your replay isn't uploaded I think so idk if that's the case for you. Check out the replays to see what I mean.
plasmastorm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada15 Posts
October 27 2012 02:00 GMT
#42
Yeah I think the grazing is what I am missing primarily. I captured most of the spell cards, but I looked at Imbajoe's replay and on stage 3 he's 700+ graze while I was ~175. That's a huge difference, I'll have to try again with a focus on grazing this time.
Triflux
Profile Joined August 2011
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 04:38:12
October 27 2012 02:34 GMT
#43
On October 27 2012 11:00 plasmastorm wrote:
Yeah I think the grazing is what I am missing primarily. I captured most of the spell cards, but I looked at Imbajoe's replay and on stage 3 he's 700+ graze while I was ~175. That's a huge difference, I'll have to try again with a focus on grazing this time.

Actually, the grazing doesn't make as huge an impact since the bonus is only multiplied by 0.5. I got around 99 million a few hours ago, and for stage 3 I only got like 300 graze and the score difference between my run and Imbajoe's wasn't too big.

Here's how your bonus score is calculated.

+ Show Spoiler +
Stage x 1000 (stage number, Extra = 7)
Power x 100 (power level)
Graze x 10 (graze count)

This combined total is then multiplied by the number of point items collected in that stage.

In addition, if you are not playing on Easy and the stage happened to be the last stage, the following is added:

Player x 3,000,000 (lives in stock, not including your current one)
Bomb x 1,000,000 (bombs in stock)

Finally, depending on the conditions you played under, the result is multiplied by these modifiers, rounded down to the nearest 10:

4 Initial Lives: x 0.5
5 Initial Lives: x 0.2
Easy Difficulty: x 0.5
Normal Difficulty: x 1.0
Hard Difficulty: x 1.2
Lunatic Difficulty: x 1.5
Extra Difficulty: x 2.0


edit: Yeah, nvm what I said about grazing. Grazing + star items = much higher score.
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
October 27 2012 03:11 GMT
#44
Awesome Idea! Looking forward to pick up the games again.
Even though you have to unlock the Extra stages, hope you rethink about adding them. ESoD and IM Extras are 2 good.
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 00:15:49
October 27 2012 18:37 GMT
#45
On October 27 2012 07:56 BajaBlood wrote:
My proposal would be to have 1 game open at a time and let people submit scores for any difficulty during that time (say, 1 month). Then, once the next game opens up, stop accepting scores for the previous one.

I thought about this idea at first, but I feel that for people that aren't that good at the game, it would probably be a bit better to start everyone out on easy mode and let those players work on the easiest difficulty. Then, by the time lunatic mode unlocks, they would be a bit better at the game.
On October 27 2012 05:40 Imbajoe wrote:
Another thing to consider is that if we set games/modes to be locked at some determined date, then that might encourage individuals to hold onto a new top score until the the last day before submitting so that other people don't have the ability see and try to specifically beat that, which would somewhat ruin the feel and fun of this type of competition. This could be worked around by making a rule that you have to submit a run within a couple of days of the score being obtained, going by the date on the replay. Just something to consider.

I like this suggestion. I had the same thoughts about locking games eventually in that some players would hold onto their scores and submit right before it locks. Your solution works perfectly though. I'm gonna edit the op to include this.
So, I'll have to change it so that games lock (according to the poll) when easy mode for 2 games ahead is unlocked. I'll also have to edit the rules so that you have to submit a replay within 48 hours of it being obtained.

Also, just for my clarification: If someone submits a replay for normal mode without using any continues, and someone else downloads that replay, does Extra mode unlock? Am I correct in that it is normal mode without any continues, or is it a different difficulty or you can use 1 continue or what? I might end up unlocking extra mode at the same time as lunatic mode in this case.

Edit: I received an email giving me a replay that is the current Touhou 6 easy mode high score (112699010) from "SPM". I don't know who this is on TL and a forum search didn't clear that up. Maybe I did it wrong idk, but if he doesn't have a TL account, should he be allowed to join? Up to you guys.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
SPM
Profile Joined October 2012
5 Posts
October 28 2012 02:15 GMT
#46
I'm alive. I registered before sending the email and thought I would show up, but I guess not.

I think the Extra unlock via replay watching only applies to MoF...but I might be wrong. Perhaps it only works towards unlocking stage practice.
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
October 28 2012 17:48 GMT
#47
On October 28 2012 03:37 Epishade wrote:
Maybe I did it wrong idk, but if he doesn't have a TL account, should he be allowed to join? Up to you guys.

I think people should at least drop by and say hi, like SPM did so. That being said, welcome, SPM~



Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
October 28 2012 19:34 GMT
#48
On October 29 2012 02:48 Chronopolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 03:37 Epishade wrote:
Maybe I did it wrong idk, but if he doesn't have a TL account, should he be allowed to join? Up to you guys.

I think people should at least drop by and say hi, like SPM did so. That being said, welcome, SPM~





Yeah that would be nice, especially if they are gonna come and demolish everyones' scores.
Completely forgot about normal opening up, gonna try some today
i wear a kitten scarf
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
October 28 2012 19:57 GMT
#49
I'm getting absolutely killed on normal mode lol. I finally managed to make it to stage 3 but I died to cirno 3 times and lost it immediately. I felt proud though. That same game I managed to beat SPM's first stage score (I got around 9 million compared to SPM's 7.8). I tried saving it but the game crashed. Turns out (at least for me) you can't overwrite replays without a crash. I have to delete the replay from the folder and then save mine in the slot.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
SPM
Profile Joined October 2012
5 Posts
October 31 2012 04:18 GMT
#50
Just a heads up for people who haven't checked the OP recently: I'll offer the same type of prize as Epishade for second place so there's still hope to claim a crappy custom-made drawing for yourself. I'll also sit out on some of the difficulties or something since it's not really nice for a lurker to butt in like that.

Grazing is sort of big since its influence on the star item value is crazy good in comparison to the other games, and the source of scoring from other factors is pretty low for this game anyway.
Triflux
Profile Joined August 2011
United States15 Posts
October 31 2012 04:52 GMT
#51
SPM, have you been able to 1cc lunatic on any of them? Just curious as to what skill level you're at with such nice scores.
SPM
Profile Joined October 2012
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 05:38:16
October 31 2012 05:34 GMT
#52
I have a 1CC on all the Windows games (excluding the fighters), but not with every shot type and not necessarily with flying colors. I usually hang out on Normal, and even then it's been limited to a select few games. I'll try something special when I find myself in familiar territory.

Edit: Hello, Chronopolis!
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
October 31 2012 11:35 GMT
#53
I can only 1CC the Fighting Games (well just IaMP)
;_;
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 23:10:59
October 31 2012 23:07 GMT
#54
Hehe, for only the second time in my life I died during the after-flash of the final boss (The other time was Okuu). Blasphemy. You have no idea how silly it is to see Remelia explode from pressing the continue button.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 18:55:36
November 01 2012 01:17 GMT
#55
Been pretty busy this past week and I haven't been able to get a really good score yet. I'm too score oriented and I die repeatedly to a bunch of stupid mistakes. Maybe I should try ignoring score entirely and focusing on survival. Maybe that's what I should have made this competition about. Just list all the people that made it to the end lol. It might dumb down the game a bit, but I think more people would have been willing to join if all they had to worry about was survival.

Maybe when this competition ends, I might start another one ignoring score.

On November 01 2012 14:28 SPM wrote:
I have a dumb idea. If it's about survival and participation then people could be rewarded for submitting runs with extra points handed out depending on which stage you finish on (may or may not be adjusted for difficulty). Although, that might call for a more interesting prize pool for incentive. I wouldn't mind chipping in a few dollars for it. Or back to more awful drawings.


I like this idea too. When the new competition starts, I'll probably make it like this. That might not be for a while though. It will most likely be for when this competition ends - I'll start another one, or when just about everyone stops submitting scores for this one (which I think will probably happen pretty soon idk) - I'll make another competition maybe a month or two afterwards. Can't start another Touhou comp. right after the one before it dies.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
SPM
Profile Joined October 2012
5 Posts
November 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#56
I have a dumb idea. If it's about survival and participation then people could be rewarded for submitting runs with extra points handed out depending on which stage you finish on (may or may not be adjusted for difficulty). Although, that might call for a more interesting prize pool for incentive. I wouldn't mind chipping in a few dollars for it. Or back to more awful drawings.
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
November 01 2012 19:00 GMT
#57
[image loading]

Not the same replay, but a completed run, but with lower score. (111,292,020)
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=24945
Spectacles
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1 Post
November 08 2012 09:22 GMT
#58
Is this still going, haven't seen any movement in google docs. If so I may participate on select difficulties as I just recently picked up Touhou again .
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
November 08 2012 19:43 GMT
#59
It is technically still going, but I think it's pretty much dying out/going to be dead by next week. I just don't think we have that large a Touhou following on TeamLiquid to sustain a tournament like this. If you want, I'll still maintain the leaderboards and everything, but I probably won't be submitting my own scores.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
SPM
Profile Joined October 2012
5 Posts
November 08 2012 20:19 GMT
#60
Yeah, I expected the turnout to dwindle after the first wave of submissions, but it dipped much faster than I expected. I still don't know how much I'm at fault for showing up. I decided to sit back and see if anything would be submitted in the newer categories if I didn't show my face, but...too late now I guess. A few more days and I'll put forth that special effort, and then I don't know what future lies for this thread.
Triflux
Profile Joined August 2011
United States15 Posts
November 09 2012 06:25 GMT
#61
I'm still around, just been busy as as hell haha. The little time I have been playing Touhou was mostly extra attempts. Score runs are quite frustrating xD I'll probably submit some scores sometime this weekend or something. And you showing up, SPM, didn't affect me at all so no worries
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
November 09 2012 09:24 GMT
#62
i think you should just open up all the games and keep this as a high score kinda thing
the courage to be a lazy bum
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
November 09 2012 20:54 GMT
#63
On November 09 2012 18:24 ZoW wrote:
i think you should just open up all the games and keep this as a high score kinda thing

Poll:

Open up (5)
 
56%

Leave as is (4)
 
44%

9 total votes

Your vote:

(Vote): Open up
(Vote): Leave as is


Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 21:03:47
November 09 2012 21:02 GMT
#64
On November 09 2012 04:43 Epishade wrote:
It is technically still going, but I think it's pretty much dying out/going to be dead by next week. I just don't think we have that large a Touhou following on TeamLiquid to sustain a tournament like this. If you want, I'll still maintain the leaderboards and everything, but I probably won't be submitting my own scores.

I was making quite a few attempts on EoSD normal, that's why I wasn't submitting anything for eosd hard or lunatic.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
November 09 2012 21:03 GMT
#65
Agree, just open it up so anyone can submit a score for anything, then you'll see more activity.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
November 10 2012 04:30 GMT
#66
This game is hard
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
FakeDouble
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia676 Posts
November 10 2012 10:54 GMT
#67
omg I'm so noob at this XD
Formerly known as carbonaceous
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
November 10 2012 11:14 GMT
#68
you should run tournaments for Touhou Hisoutensoku as it is easier to pit people against each other there XD
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:49:49
November 10 2012 18:39 GMT
#69
Very well, looks like I'll have to make a lot of changes to the OP. I'll open up all the games and we'll just keep this as the official Teamliquid Touhou high-score leaderboards.

On November 10 2012 20:14 HaruRH wrote:
you should run tournaments for Touhou Hisoutensoku as it is easier to pit people against each other there XD


Are those the fighting games? I'm not too sure how I would run a competition like that. I don't really know enough about the fighting games to make a TL competition around them. Maybe eventually in the future, but I'm probably not the right person to make a thread regarding it.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
November 11 2012 01:52 GMT
#70
We did a soku tourney on tl vpn. It started I think 3 monthes ago. Still hasn't finished.



(Rather, ppl just disappeared/stopped giving shits)
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
November 11 2012 02:32 GMT
#71
On November 11 2012 10:52 dkpl wrote:
We did a soku tourney on tl vpn. It started I think 3 monthes ago. Still hasn't finished.



(Rather, ppl just disappeared/stopped giving shits)


Are you guys located relatively close to each other? I remember trying to play with someone on the other side of NA before and even that lag was more than I'd like to handle
i wear a kitten scarf
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
November 11 2012 02:52 GMT
#72
Oh wow. This is pretty cool.
RLTY
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States965 Posts
November 11 2012 03:32 GMT
#73
sick nasty time to get some records
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
November 12 2012 05:48 GMT
#74
FINALLY SUCCESS
Eosd Normal Reimu A (122444150)
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=25187

Lol it took me like 10 or 12 hours of playing time total to beat Triflux's score.
Triflux
Profile Joined August 2011
United States15 Posts
November 12 2012 06:02 GMT
#75
On November 12 2012 14:48 Chronopolis wrote:
FINALLY SUCCESS
Eosd Normal Reimu A (122444150)
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=25187

Lol it took me like 10 or 12 hours of playing time total to beat Triflux's score.

Nice job!

Also, any chance we could get extras included in here as well? I finally beat EoSD and PCB extra stages. :D
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
November 13 2012 02:59 GMT
#76
I suppose I can add a spreadsheet for extras. But I'm going to keep it separate from all the rest of the spreadsheets that hold easy-lunatic on them just for ease of making.

Also, one thing I just did was hook up an xbox controller to my computer that I've been using to play Touhou with. Not working out too well but has anyone else tried different controls other than the keyboard?
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
November 13 2012 03:02 GMT
#77
Yeah, I play on PS2 pad. I know a lot of people can only play shmups on stick. Keyboard is technically the most precise though.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
November 13 2012 10:19 GMT
#78
On November 11 2012 11:32 Imbajoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 10:52 dkpl wrote:
We did a soku tourney on tl vpn. It started I think 3 monthes ago. Still hasn't finished.



(Rather, ppl just disappeared/stopped giving shits)


Are you guys located relatively close to each other? I remember trying to play with someone on the other side of NA before and even that lag was more than I'd like to handle



I live in BC, while most of the others are from Toronto. The only times there are lag is when one player is clearly on a laggy connection or forgets to turn off a torrent. Otherwise, with two people on decent connections connecting to each other through the vpn, the games should be completely lag-free.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
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