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mrgoochio
Profile Joined April 2009
United States557 Posts
October 18 2012 00:53 GMT
#81
FWIW, DayZ standalone is not a mod of Arma 2, or is not supposed to be anyway. The phrase "DayZ standalone is a mod of Arma 2" is an oxymoron in itself. The meaning of standalone contradicts it being a mod
chengysogood
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 18 2012 01:05 GMT
#82
If anyone has a key they want to toss me I'd like to try this out, played DayZ quite a bit (hop on occasionally, still). Game looks sketch, but apparently recent patches have brought it up to par. Only reason I don't just buy it is...

On October 16 2012 14:51 Risen wrote:
I had really high hopes for this... I really just wanted something to hold me over until the standalone DayZ, but I'm not willing to just throw money on a fire lol


Would like to try it out before I buy it.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
October 18 2012 01:17 GMT
#83
On October 18 2012 10:05 Risen wrote:
If anyone has a key they want to toss me I'd like to try this out, played DayZ quite a bit (hop on occasionally, still). Game looks sketch, but apparently recent patches have brought it up to par. Only reason I don't just buy it is...

Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 14:51 Risen wrote:
I had really high hopes for this... I really just wanted something to hold me over until the standalone DayZ, but I'm not willing to just throw money on a fire lol


Would like to try it out before I buy it.


I will let you know what I think of it and if you don't decide to buy it by beta I will give you 3 beta keys to use(you can reapply one after another during the beta for time) but so far I have really enjoyed it.
It isn't very buggy and I haven't died to any "random" stuff, I dislike the global inventory being accessed from anywhere but that is just for Alpha, it will be changed in beta where you must be in a city.

The dynamic lighting is amazing looking a step above DayZ and the sounds are definitely a step up from DayZ, there are random screams of zombies coming from the woods it is very immersive and enjoyable. It is very gorey when you beat the hell out of someone with a melee weapon but I kind of like that lol.
Theres a lot more I can talk about but I will wait until later because I am sitting in a jail in the main city hiding writing this.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
October 18 2012 01:27 GMT
#84
On October 17 2012 11:32 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 10:59 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On October 17 2012 10:11 Kamikiri wrote:
I wasn't going to get this because of reading the thread with people from DayZ here bashing on this game hardcore making it sound terrible but than my friend convinced me to try it.
Believe me I am glad my friend convinced me to not listen to you guys and try it. I have had a lot of fun and really enjoyed this game.

Weapons and items in general are EXTREMELY rare the survival aspect alone is a lot harder than DayZ, zombies are a lot more of a threat and weapons/ammunition are way rarer. The fact that there is something to do endgame also makes it a lot more appealing to me than DayZ. I spent 3-4 months playing DayZ and loving the game a lot but imo WarZ is just flat out better and it seems like the majority of you are just bashing on WarZ for no real reason because it is in "alpha". The game is far from finished and they have been very responsive and improving the game but so far from what I have seen with the art sounds and the general direction the game is being developed into is shaping up to be a great game even though it is still in "alpha".

You guys really need to take a step back stop bashing this game and wait until it gets further into development(out of alpha) before you judge it.


It's more that the developers are complete liars. They told people that the game had been in development for 2 years, when it's clear that this game is a modification of War Inc. and the game website is only less than 6 months old. They told us that the in game microtransaction market would only include items we can use for simple customization, not game altering items. I can't help but feel like this is a total scam. Hell, just look at the name of their Product: War Z. Sound familiar? This game is meant to feed off the hype around Day Z.


Like I said in the previous post, there's no definite evidences. There's no way we can tell that the games was just developed. What if they just want to make sure that the game is at least close to alpha level completion before announcing it and creating a website? Or they could just develop a game using the War Inc engine (which is totally by a different company). And the store so far does not really offer a game changing items like assault rifles. The only questionable thing they have done so far is copying ToS.

You can believe what you want but I don't think we can really call them liars unless we have more definite proofs to back the claim.


... Look at the code. It's almost identical to War Inc. And yes they do offer game altering things in the store. You can buy food, medicine, ect. Thank god you can't buy guns, but this sort of stuff doesn't belong. (Food and medicine is almost more rare than a sniper rifle in the games current state)...
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
October 18 2012 02:55 GMT
#85
On October 18 2012 10:27 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 11:32 Veldril wrote:
On October 17 2012 10:59 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On October 17 2012 10:11 Kamikiri wrote:
I wasn't going to get this because of reading the thread with people from DayZ here bashing on this game hardcore making it sound terrible but than my friend convinced me to try it.
Believe me I am glad my friend convinced me to not listen to you guys and try it. I have had a lot of fun and really enjoyed this game.

Weapons and items in general are EXTREMELY rare the survival aspect alone is a lot harder than DayZ, zombies are a lot more of a threat and weapons/ammunition are way rarer. The fact that there is something to do endgame also makes it a lot more appealing to me than DayZ. I spent 3-4 months playing DayZ and loving the game a lot but imo WarZ is just flat out better and it seems like the majority of you are just bashing on WarZ for no real reason because it is in "alpha". The game is far from finished and they have been very responsive and improving the game but so far from what I have seen with the art sounds and the general direction the game is being developed into is shaping up to be a great game even though it is still in "alpha".

You guys really need to take a step back stop bashing this game and wait until it gets further into development(out of alpha) before you judge it.


It's more that the developers are complete liars. They told people that the game had been in development for 2 years, when it's clear that this game is a modification of War Inc. and the game website is only less than 6 months old. They told us that the in game microtransaction market would only include items we can use for simple customization, not game altering items. I can't help but feel like this is a total scam. Hell, just look at the name of their Product: War Z. Sound familiar? This game is meant to feed off the hype around Day Z.


Like I said in the previous post, there's no definite evidences. There's no way we can tell that the games was just developed. What if they just want to make sure that the game is at least close to alpha level completion before announcing it and creating a website? Or they could just develop a game using the War Inc engine (which is totally by a different company). And the store so far does not really offer a game changing items like assault rifles. The only questionable thing they have done so far is copying ToS.

You can believe what you want but I don't think we can really call them liars unless we have more definite proofs to back the claim.


... Look at the code. It's almost identical to War Inc. And yes they do offer game altering things in the store. You can buy food, medicine, ect. Thank god you can't buy guns, but this sort of stuff doesn't belong. (Food and medicine is almost more rare than a sniper rifle in the games current state)...


Can you stop making rash accusations just trying to bash the game? First of all food and medicine is not rare, AT ALL , not even remotely rare. It is pretty common to find food water and medicine where as Sniper rifles are extremely rare, all guns in general are. Weapons will also have nerfed drop rates after alpha as well.

WarZ and War Inc. using the same engine isn't a reason to bash on the game either, it is pretty common for games to share the same engine. It really does look like you are just searching for reasons to bash this game so please take your bullshit reasoning for hating this game and leave.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 05:46:11
October 18 2012 05:41 GMT
#86
On October 18 2012 10:17 Kamikiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 10:05 Risen wrote:
If anyone has a key they want to toss me I'd like to try this out, played DayZ quite a bit (hop on occasionally, still). Game looks sketch, but apparently recent patches have brought it up to par. Only reason I don't just buy it is...

On October 16 2012 14:51 Risen wrote:
I had really high hopes for this... I really just wanted something to hold me over until the standalone DayZ, but I'm not willing to just throw money on a fire lol


Would like to try it out before I buy it.


I will let you know what I think of it and if you don't decide to buy it by beta I will give you 3 beta keys to use(you can reapply one after another during the beta for time) but so far I have really enjoyed it.
It isn't very buggy and I haven't died to any "random" stuff, I dislike the global inventory being accessed from anywhere but that is just for Alpha, it will be changed in beta where you must be in a city.

The dynamic lighting is amazing looking a step above DayZ and the sounds are definitely a step up from DayZ, there are random screams of zombies coming from the woods it is very immersive and enjoyable. It is very gorey when you beat the hell out of someone with a melee weapon but I kind of like that lol.
Theres a lot more I can talk about but I will wait until later because I am sitting in a jail in the main city hiding writing this.


That's one thing I've actually really liked about the gameplay vids I've watched (the graphics). I love DayZ's graphics as well, don't get me wrong, but it can be hard to see things sometimes for me and WarZ seems much simpler to see things in (during the day).

Can't wait to hear more from you. With this post I'm definitely leaning towards just buying it

Edit: I don't care if it's a money grab, a copy of dayz, or a mod of something else. I'm after one thing, fun. Why would anything else matter to me? I think that discussion is useless in this thread.

Double Edit: I'm actually not too concerned about the price, I just didn't want to be throwing money away. As the game is now, do you think it's worth 30$
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
October 18 2012 08:17 GMT
#87
On October 18 2012 14:41 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 10:17 Kamikiri wrote:
On October 18 2012 10:05 Risen wrote:
If anyone has a key they want to toss me I'd like to try this out, played DayZ quite a bit (hop on occasionally, still). Game looks sketch, but apparently recent patches have brought it up to par. Only reason I don't just buy it is...

On October 16 2012 14:51 Risen wrote:
I had really high hopes for this... I really just wanted something to hold me over until the standalone DayZ, but I'm not willing to just throw money on a fire lol


Would like to try it out before I buy it.


I will let you know what I think of it and if you don't decide to buy it by beta I will give you 3 beta keys to use(you can reapply one after another during the beta for time) but so far I have really enjoyed it.
It isn't very buggy and I haven't died to any "random" stuff, I dislike the global inventory being accessed from anywhere but that is just for Alpha, it will be changed in beta where you must be in a city.

The dynamic lighting is amazing looking a step above DayZ and the sounds are definitely a step up from DayZ, there are random screams of zombies coming from the woods it is very immersive and enjoyable. It is very gorey when you beat the hell out of someone with a melee weapon but I kind of like that lol.
Theres a lot more I can talk about but I will wait until later because I am sitting in a jail in the main city hiding writing this.


That's one thing I've actually really liked about the gameplay vids I've watched (the graphics). I love DayZ's graphics as well, don't get me wrong, but it can be hard to see things sometimes for me and WarZ seems much simpler to see things in (during the day).

Can't wait to hear more from you. With this post I'm definitely leaning towards just buying it

Edit: I don't care if it's a money grab, a copy of dayz, or a mod of something else. I'm after one thing, fun. Why would anything else matter to me? I think that discussion is useless in this thread.

Double Edit: I'm actually not too concerned about the price, I just didn't want to be throwing money away. As the game is now, do you think it's worth 30$


It is definitely worth 30$, I have bought this game along with 10 other people who I know and we are all enjoying it.
They have been updating every day and fixing a lot of the glitches with Alpha. My tip for you if you get it, don't play alone in the dark with the sound up, it is terrifying.
Oh also last thing it will be 10$ more expensive after the 20th(I believe not for sure the exact date)
If you would like to play with me and some other people PM me and ill give you my skype.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 09:22:01
October 18 2012 09:03 GMT
#88
Kamikiri. PM me your skype as well. ill probably buy it now.
btw just purchased and received three guest keys (that will go to my RL friends that used to play dayZ with me, sorry guys). what is the process for them to play with me? do they d/l the client and put their email and guest key?
Also by having bought the 30$ alpha, do i still get the full game when released?
Thanx.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Raavi
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark156 Posts
October 18 2012 09:18 GMT
#89
I wouldn't mind a key if anyone got a spare. I really need to try this thing before putting my money down.
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 09:44:20
October 18 2012 09:41 GMT
#90
On October 18 2012 18:03 ffswowsucks wrote:
Kamikiri. PM me your skype as well. ill probably buy it now.
btw just purchased and received three guest keys (that will go to my RL friends that used to play dayZ with me, sorry guys). what is the process for them to play with me? do they d/l the client and put their email and guest key?
Also by having bought the 30$ alpha, do i still get the full game when released?
Thanx.


For them to use the guest keys it has to be after October 31st when the game goes into beta, until then you can join me and play with me(anyone here is welcome to join just pm me for skype). I play with a few other people who also played DayZ so we have a lot of fun going around together, anyone is welcome to join us.

To the guy posting just above me, I will give you a guest key after October 31st when it is available for the keys to be used.

Edit: Nvm ill just PM you a key
Double edit: PM'ed my skype to you
DarkEnergy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands542 Posts
October 18 2012 10:14 GMT
#91
i hear good and bad but im not willing to trow down money to see if its actualy that fun.
the question will this be like l4d 1&2 fracturing the community, including us.
we willl see
Thats right stimmed marines can outrun aeroplanes.Tasteless
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
October 18 2012 14:41 GMT
#92
On October 18 2012 05:13 Ighox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 21:09 Scaramanga wrote:
On October 17 2012 11:32 Veldril wrote:
On October 17 2012 10:59 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On October 17 2012 10:11 Kamikiri wrote:
I wasn't going to get this because of reading the thread with people from DayZ here bashing on this game hardcore making it sound terrible but than my friend convinced me to try it.
Believe me I am glad my friend convinced me to not listen to you guys and try it. I have had a lot of fun and really enjoyed this game.

Weapons and items in general are EXTREMELY rare the survival aspect alone is a lot harder than DayZ, zombies are a lot more of a threat and weapons/ammunition are way rarer. The fact that there is something to do endgame also makes it a lot more appealing to me than DayZ. I spent 3-4 months playing DayZ and loving the game a lot but imo WarZ is just flat out better and it seems like the majority of you are just bashing on WarZ for no real reason because it is in "alpha". The game is far from finished and they have been very responsive and improving the game but so far from what I have seen with the art sounds and the general direction the game is being developed into is shaping up to be a great game even though it is still in "alpha".

You guys really need to take a step back stop bashing this game and wait until it gets further into development(out of alpha) before you judge it.


It's more that the developers are complete liars. They told people that the game had been in development for 2 years, when it's clear that this game is a modification of War Inc. and the game website is only less than 6 months old. They told us that the in game microtransaction market would only include items we can use for simple customization, not game altering items. I can't help but feel like this is a total scam. Hell, just look at the name of their Product: War Z. Sound familiar? This game is meant to feed off the hype around Day Z.


Like I said in the previous post, there's no definite evidences. There's no way we can tell that the games was just developed. What if they just want to make sure that the game is at least close to alpha level completion before announcing it and creating a website? Or they could just develop a game using the War Inc engine (which is totally by a different company). And the store so far does not really offer a game changing items like assault rifles. The only questionable thing they have done so far is copying ToS.

You can believe what you want but I don't think we can really call them liars unless we have more definite proofs to back the claim.

If you are the one making a claim, you have the burden of proof lol
On October 17 2012 20:52 jexxto wrote:
Kinda hillarious people moaning about the state of the game after the first few hours of alpha. This is an alpha of a game, not a mod. Day Z is a mod for an already complete game, there's a difference.

THe fist day was ropey, getting into a game was hard, but once in the game played much as I expected, a more user friendly Day Z. It felt similar but different. I personally will not judge a game based on the fluff gameplay things such as spawns being out of whack, sounds being weird etc. They have plenty of time to polish those things prior to a real release.

Today they released their first patch, it's fixed alot of crashes (I've yet to crash today) and it's alo easier to join a server. Generally it is a vastly improved experience from that of the first day. If they continue to be honest and open with the community, pump out updates and hotfixes regularly, this game could be better than Day Z standalone. The fact Day Z is using the Arma 2 (.5?) engine is enough to put a huge spanner in the works. They should of used the Arma 3 engine.

WarZ is a mod of WarInc, your arguments are invalid

Since when do companies have to provide proof of when the development began? That's just really dumb.
If you don't buy it, you are the one that has to provide proof.

DayZ standalone is a mod of Arma 2 so your arguments are invalid.

Do you know how burden of proof works? I don't think you do.
If you are the one who is making the claim then you have to prove that your claims to be true. The reason the studio has to prove they started development before dayz came out is to prove that they aren't greedy arseholes who are scabbing off dayz's success for money. If dayz never came out then they wouldn't need to prove themselves.
Also I never mentioned anything about dayz standalone being a mod of arma 2/3 nor does it have any baring on my point.
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Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
October 18 2012 16:11 GMT
#93
Why does it matter if WarZ started because of DayZ's success? That being said I am not impressed so far, if someone wants to toss me one of those keys that I can use at the end of the month I would be very appreciative. I would like to get to try it since I haven't seen much gameplay, I guess it is because it is under NDA or something?
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Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
October 18 2012 16:51 GMT
#94
On October 19 2012 01:11 Shootemup. wrote:
Why does it matter if WarZ started because of DayZ's success? That being said I am not impressed so far, if someone wants to toss me one of those keys that I can use at the end of the month I would be very appreciative. I would like to get to try it since I haven't seen much gameplay, I guess it is because it is under NDA or something?

It's under NDA until like November 2nd or something yes.
(Unless that was LoL and they just forgot to remove it?
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
October 18 2012 22:03 GMT
#95
I found a riot shield and was beating the hell out of zombies with it today. So much fun lol I am really enjoying this game, also, riot shield, great defense against baseball bats!
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 22:20:09
October 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#96
On October 17 2012 10:40 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 10:28 Scaramanga wrote:
On October 17 2012 10:11 Kamikiri wrote:
I wasn't going to get this because of reading the thread with people from DayZ here bashing on this game hardcore making it sound terrible but than my friend convinced me to try it.
Believe me I am glad my friend convinced me to not listen to you guys and try it. I have had a lot of fun and really enjoyed this game.

Weapons and items in general are EXTREMELY rare the survival aspect alone is a lot harder than DayZ, zombies are a lot more of a threat and weapons/ammunition are way rarer. The fact that there is something to do endgame also makes it a lot more appealing to me than DayZ. I spent 3-4 months playing DayZ and loving the game a lot but imo WarZ is just flat out better and it seems like the majority of you are just bashing on WarZ for no real reason because it is in "alpha". The game is far from finished and they have been very responsive and improving the game but so far from what I have seen with the art sounds and the general direction the game is being developed into is shaping up to be a great game even though it is still in "alpha".

You guys really need to take a step back stop bashing this game and wait until it gets further into development(out of alpha) before you judge it.

I don't bash it because its alpha, I bash it because the studio is money hungry and on principal I don't want to see them succeed.


Well, no one can prove that the game was started after DayZ became popular. They claimed that the game has been in development for a couple of years already and that might be true (or not). There's really no conclusive evidence (only circumstantial evidence, which is debatable) that the game is not developed until DayZ was out. The worst case is that they intended the game to be a single player game but changed to multiplayer after DayZ was released.


The following was posted on their facebook page and promptly deleted shortly after. However people got screenshots of it before it was taken down. Someone reposted the text on reddit(?) and here's a screenshot of it.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Been vaguely following this game. Intradasting to say the least. It has Pando Media Booster apparently, so no way in hell I'm even going to try this game and put that bloatware shit on my computer. Honestly I always kind of felt the conclusion the spoilered post made in the tl;dr was the case, but it's seeming more and more like that every day. That this is just something to cash in on DayZ's success before DayZ gets a standalone game, hoping people who can't wait will buy this instead. It seems like a quick cash grab in every way.

Now I can very well be wrong, and I'm not debating whether it's fun or not, or whether it's pay to win or not or what have you. I know very little about this game and have seen very little gameplay other than the youtube links of comparing it to the War Inc. engine and some early leaked footage of it. All I'm saying is, it's kind of sketchy from the outside of things. And I never even played DayZ for more than like a few hours. I think like I got bored around 15 in, which is weird considering how much of a huge fan of survival games I am o_o

That said, I agree with the person a few above. Who cares if a game is started because another was successful? It encourages competition. What I have a problem with is cheap, knockoff cash grabs, which this may very well be.
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 22:31:37
October 18 2012 22:26 GMT
#97
On October 18 2012 23:41 Scaramanga wrote:
Do you know how burden of proof works? I don't think you do.

Do you ?
I am not involved in any side of this argument, but you keep hammering this burden of proof thing and it's getting irritating. From my perspective, you (among others) are the one claiming they are greedy arseholes when they are just making a game.
Saying they have to prove they are NOT greedy shows that somebody started claiming they were without any proof (only hints, which I agree with) in the first place.

Yup, guys above me got it right and brings proofs.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 18 2012 22:44 GMT
#98
Jumped and bought the 30$ package. I'm having an absolute blast Already got sniped while looting a grocery :D
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
acidstormy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States191 Posts
October 18 2012 23:02 GMT
#99
here is a video up on youtube showing some of the gameplay with some pretty entertaining commentary



i won't be getting this game. Blatant ripoff.
Its like trying to find a needle in a stack of needles
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
October 18 2012 23:13 GMT
#100
Definitely considering this. Enjoyed dayz quite a bit. All of the people crying that its a copy... So what? Risen says it best above, all that matters is if you have fun.
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