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Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 20:40:01
November 20 2013 20:38 GMT
#1961


"Remove Horror" is now apparently hate speech.

Dugongue and and Cruxit have been banned. An admin is now in LicensetoBill's chat is getting cleared repeatedly and setting it to sub only. He has no mods. He's asking them why and they're not saying anything.

Still no response from twitch.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
November 20 2013 20:46 GMT
#1962
[image loading]

Apparently this is why his chat was getting cleared. Bill was talking to Chris and then Chris turned off sub mode and left.

And now werster is awake.

Apparently we're spreading misinformation, and now werster is awake. #Itshappening
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
November 20 2013 20:47 GMT
#1963
Oh c'mon, can't just everyone involved stop acting like it's kindergarten? The twitch guys are overreacting (and apparently never heard of the Streisand effect), and the streamers are, too.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
November 20 2013 20:56 GMT
#1964
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/mvbvql

Apparently putting "Remove Horror" in your stream title is now harassment.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
November 20 2013 20:57 GMT
#1965
On November 21 2013 05:56 Raelcun wrote:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/mvbvql

Apparently putting "Remove Horror" in your stream title is now harassment.

It certainly leads to harassment, doesn't it?
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
November 20 2013 21:16 GMT
#1966
If putting "Remove Horror" in your title causing /vg/ to raid you leads to harassment, then yes.

Encouraging harassment, and having a title that causes people to flock to your channel are two different things.
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
November 20 2013 21:20 GMT
#1967
Oh man now this is spreading everywhere

Twitch admins are having a nightmare
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
GeneticToss
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada188 Posts
November 20 2013 21:20 GMT
#1968
You know, I'm not saying he deserves this, but I hope this helps Horror adjust his behavior.

Obviously both sides are escalating things and at this point who started what doesn't really matter.

Twitch just need some clear guidelines regarding their emotes and mods.

As a last point, saying you are against censorship in all forms when people protest about Furry emotes and then banning people for speaking out against an admin is somewhat hypocritical.

I don't know exactly what happened but it is quite entertaining.
nFo on KGS
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
November 20 2013 21:32 GMT
#1969
On November 21 2013 06:16 Raelcun wrote:
If putting "Remove Horror" in your title causing /vg/ to raid you leads to harassment, then yes.

Encouraging harassment, and having a title that causes people to flock to your channel are two different things.

I disagree. Everyone involved here is smart enough to know that putting up a title like that will encourage harassment and - depending on the size of your channel - will inevitably lead to harassment.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
November 20 2013 21:37 GMT
#1970
Y'know, you'd think that the twitch admins, of all people, would be smart enough to figure out that active censorship of a message on the Internet is the best way to encourage its spread. Streisand effect and all that.
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 20 2013 21:42 GMT
#1971
All of the streams I watch are getting banned by some furry on a power trip. GG twitch
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 20 2013 21:44 GMT
#1972
I don't know what happened or who was originally at fault but holy balls is Twitch handling this as poorly as possible.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 21:46:32
November 20 2013 21:46 GMT
#1973
On November 21 2013 06:42 Dubzex wrote:
All of the streams I watch are getting banned by some furry on a power trip. GG twitch

The fact that you call him "some furry" is disgusting.

I'm not commenting on what he's doing (it seems wrong to me but I can't say I'm well enough informed to judge) but the fact that he isn't a human being to you but rather "some furry" is absolutely not acceptable.

Anybody who would sink low enough to refer to him like that ought to examine themselves closely before they accuse others.

On November 21 2013 06:44 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I don't know what happened or who was originally at fault but holy balls is Twitch handling this as poorly as possible.

This, on the other hand, is spot on.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 21:50:25
November 20 2013 21:47 GMT
#1974
Most channels should be unbanned soon, probally all of them. It's just an extremelly poor attempt of damage control.

It's absurd that people are still attached to the emote and it's "connection to porn". May as well bandwagon against Tara Babcock emotes. So many people can't argue about the real issue or just want to hate on the guy because of what he likes.

The community has handled this poorly, as expected, and Twitch did its best to measure up to them.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 20 2013 21:50 GMT
#1975
On November 21 2013 06:46 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 06:42 Dubzex wrote:
All of the streams I watch are getting banned by some furry on a power trip. GG twitch

The fact that you call him "some furry" is disgusting.

I'm not commenting on what he's doing (it seems wrong to me but I can't say I'm well enough informed to judge) but the fact that he isn't a human being to you but rather "some furry" is absolutely not acceptable.

Anybody who would sink low enough to refer to him like that ought to examine themselves closely before they accuse others.

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 06:44 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I don't know what happened or who was originally at fault but holy balls is Twitch handling this as poorly as possible.

This, on the other hand, is spot on.

Would you prefer that I refer to him as the furry named Horror? or Horrorthecat as his twitter handle states? I'm not sure what you are getting at here.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 20 2013 21:52 GMT
#1976
On November 21 2013 06:47 SKC wrote:
Most channels should be unbanned soon, probally all of them. It's just an extremelly poor attempt of damage control.

It's absurd that people are still attached to the emote and it's "connection to porn". May as well bandwagon against Tara Babcock emotes. So many people can't argue about the real issue or just want to hate on the guy because of what he likes.


The significant and clear difference is that Tara Babcock, for better or for worse, is a person who streams regularly on Twitch. The NightLight emoticon is entirely unconnected to anything other than one guy (who just happens to be the person who approves emotes).
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
November 20 2013 21:54 GMT
#1977
On November 21 2013 06:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 06:47 SKC wrote:
Most channels should be unbanned soon, probally all of them. It's just an extremelly poor attempt of damage control.

It's absurd that people are still attached to the emote and it's "connection to porn". May as well bandwagon against Tara Babcock emotes. So many people can't argue about the real issue or just want to hate on the guy because of what he likes.


The significant and clear difference is that Tara Babcock, for better or for worse, is a person who streams regularly on Twitch. The NightLight emoticon is entirely unconnected to anything other than one guy (who just happens to be the person who approves emotes).

What's the deal with that emoticon, anyhow? I mean, people could just.. ignore it? It one of a gazillion of emoticons on twitch, and I'm pretty sure nobody ever asked why twitch has a dog-face emoticon, either. At first I thought it was because it was some pseudo-porn furry picture or something, but I just saw the NightLight emoticon and.. nope. Just a random emoticon. Why did people get mad over it?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 20 2013 21:55 GMT
#1978
Mofat's stream is talking about the drama right now - http://www.twitch.tv/zodiacsmash

Not sure if anyone else is doing similar
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
November 20 2013 21:55 GMT
#1979
On November 21 2013 06:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 06:47 SKC wrote:
Most channels should be unbanned soon, probally all of them. It's just an extremelly poor attempt of damage control.

It's absurd that people are still attached to the emote and it's "connection to porn". May as well bandwagon against Tara Babcock emotes. So many people can't argue about the real issue or just want to hate on the guy because of what he likes.


The significant and clear difference is that Tara Babcock, for better or for worse, is a person who streams regularly on Twitch. The NightLight emoticon is entirely unconnected to anything other than one guy (who just happens to be the person who approves emotes).

This is not what a lot of people are saying though, it's just that a cats face is suddenly "not appropriate". As if they are trying to protect the internet from dangerous influences.

That angle makes more sense, but it's not such a good reason for Twitch to take it down, which is probally why not as much people go for it. Emote were always kinda arbitrary.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 20 2013 21:56 GMT
#1980
On November 21 2013 06:54 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 06:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 21 2013 06:47 SKC wrote:
Most channels should be unbanned soon, probally all of them. It's just an extremelly poor attempt of damage control.

It's absurd that people are still attached to the emote and it's "connection to porn". May as well bandwagon against Tara Babcock emotes. So many people can't argue about the real issue or just want to hate on the guy because of what he likes.


The significant and clear difference is that Tara Babcock, for better or for worse, is a person who streams regularly on Twitch. The NightLight emoticon is entirely unconnected to anything other than one guy (who just happens to be the person who approves emotes).

What's the deal with that emoticon, anyhow? I mean, people could just.. ignore it? It one of a gazillion of emoticons on twitch, and I'm pretty sure nobody ever asked why twitch has a dog-face emoticon, either. At first I thought it was because it was some pseudo-porn furry picture or something, but I just saw the NightLight emoticon and.. nope. Just a random emoticon. Why did people get mad over it?

If you were to look up the origins of that emote, you would find furry porn which isn't really acceptable for the twitch site as they tend to ban you for having anything suggestive in your channel.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
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