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`Rab
Profile Joined March 2011
United States13 Posts
August 23 2013 23:18 GMT
#641
On August 23 2013 10:55 Lachrymose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 10:32 `Rab wrote:
PVP in WoW came a long ways since it's release. Keep in mind it took them over 2 years before we even saw Arena s1. I guess in my mind I am going to compare FF's pvp to something more like Tarren Mill/Southshore era until SE develops something PVP centric. Never been a fan of pvp in pve dominant games, besides daoc/shadowbane I never really felt like it was done right. (Plus i get my pvp fix from sc/sc2/dota/dota2 over the years of playing mmorpgs, so my opinion is biased)


That's because Guild Wars 1 hadn't been out yet for them to copy at release. That excuse doesn't fly anymore, everyone should be copying Guild Wars 1 by now.


Minus the fact no one has copied Guild Wars 1 yet (does any game plan to?), so I am a bit confused.
carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
August 23 2013 23:19 GMT
#642
Silly line of discussion anyway, but not even GW2 copied GW1.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 23 2013 23:22 GMT
#643
JP PvP are always funky and awkward anyway, I don't even have enough hope to worry about it.

On the other hand, 10hr to go!
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
August 23 2013 23:39 GMT
#644
Does it go live at midnight or in the morning?
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
August 23 2013 23:43 GMT
#645
On August 24 2013 08:18 `Rab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 10:55 Lachrymose wrote:
On August 23 2013 10:32 `Rab wrote:
PVP in WoW came a long ways since it's release. Keep in mind it took them over 2 years before we even saw Arena s1. I guess in my mind I am going to compare FF's pvp to something more like Tarren Mill/Southshore era until SE develops something PVP centric. Never been a fan of pvp in pve dominant games, besides daoc/shadowbane I never really felt like it was done right. (Plus i get my pvp fix from sc/sc2/dota/dota2 over the years of playing mmorpgs, so my opinion is biased)


That's because Guild Wars 1 hadn't been out yet for them to copy at release. That excuse doesn't fly anymore, everyone should be copying Guild Wars 1 by now.


Minus the fact no one has copied Guild Wars 1 yet (does any game plan to?), so I am a bit confused.


WoW added arena PvP in direct response to it being the only good thing about Guild Wars.
~
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
August 24 2013 01:01 GMT
#646
On August 24 2013 08:39 KillerSOS wrote:
Does it go live at midnight or in the morning?


02:00 PST
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
August 24 2013 01:16 GMT
#647
I can't wait, the only MMOs I have ever gotten into have been WoW and FFXI, and I got into both of those later on in their lifespans. I am excited to finally be starting one from day 1, and I sure hope it turns out to be a great game!
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
August 24 2013 02:26 GMT
#648
I'm so psyched. I enjoyed the beta. This is just pure fanboyism for me here on the FF series.

As for the PvP, the safest bet is to have extremely low expectations. If you're banking your money on just the PvP being succssful, don't buy it. These are Japanese developers, not the westerners who are so much more inclined to reach out to the community and get consultation from high tier players and designers.

I too played WoW arena at High ratings, I have surrendered to the fact that there will be no other form of MMORPG PvP that will top WoW because I have become so accustomed to it. You just accept that mindset, and wait to be surprised. Because really all this bickering on TL won't do squat on the developer end of things.
yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
August 24 2013 06:47 GMT
#649
Is there a certain server that most TL players have decided on playing on?
zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
August 24 2013 07:02 GMT
#650
Redemeed PS3 code by mistake after failing 100 times and getting infinite Error 3 on PC code attempts...

Guess I'll have to play it on console, that will suck completely.

At least it's downloading. What server is TL rolling?
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
Pibacc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada545 Posts
August 24 2013 07:26 GMT
#651
On August 24 2013 16:02 zazen wrote:
Redemeed PS3 code by mistake after failing 100 times and getting infinite Error 3 on PC code attempts...

Guess I'll have to play it on console, that will suck completely.

At least it's downloading. What server is TL rolling?


why don't you try to get SE to reverse it and give you a pc code?
Bashnek
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia895 Posts
August 24 2013 07:51 GMT
#652
1 HOUR. ish.
/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
August 24 2013 08:59 GMT
#653
30 seconds countdown~
solsken
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden182 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 09:39:21
August 24 2013 09:10 GMT
#654
so the launcher can't even open because of the onslaught. SE 0 - Fail 1

edit: Launcher working, no EU servers. 0-2

edit2: Got in. 100-2
Vaporeon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada68 Posts
August 24 2013 09:11 GMT
#655
I have the game open, but there are no NA/EU servers up yet
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
August 24 2013 09:11 GMT
#656
Well I'm in already. Playing on Tonberry if anyone is interested.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28095 Posts
August 24 2013 09:26 GMT
#657
Game is going to be amazing.
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Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
August 24 2013 10:23 GMT
#658
Playing on Ultros! Anyone know where to register a linkshell?
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
August 24 2013 11:36 GMT
#659
Hope this game ends up being good throughout endgame and everything. Going to be watching some streamers and stuff for a while before I think about buying.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
August 24 2013 12:50 GMT
#660
My power goes out 30 seconds after loading the game up and now I'm 3102ed.
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