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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
This is the greatest night of my chelsea supporting life without a SHADOW of a doubt. The culmination of the MOST IMPROBABLE RUN in any championship EVER. It was a right out of a movie...fucking insane...purely insane. ANY football fan in the WORLD should be able to imagine what it feels like for us CHelsea fans...you know all of us have had times when we just thought the football gods were smiling on us,...and we gutted out an improbable victory. IT COULDN'T BE ANY SWEETER. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On May 20 2012 09:21 sharkeyanti wrote: Part of the disappointment with the way Chelsea won is that they showed such a different style under AVB that was invigorating for EPL. True, they had Cahill-Luiz, which may have been catastrophic if they really went for it. But having watched Chelsea ride a lot of luck in the goal scoring department is quite frustrating. Sometimes you think, "oh well they did a great job defending and deserve a goal for the effort." But Chelsea has a number of high quality players that know how to play attacking football. Sure they won, but chose the lowest common denominator as a tactic: defending deep. Bayern was able to defend just as well as Chelsea, preventing the opposing wingers from keeping possession and not letting Drogba turn or lay it off. Bayern also happened to enforce an offensive identity on the game that consistently works. Chelsea decided to let athleticism and proper marking be their way. I don't know if Di Matteo really felt this was the best course of action or rather the easiest to implement, which is part of the disappointment. AVB played invigorating football for the EPL and lost the league sounds like Arsenal, I think Chelsea shouldn't become Arsenal. | ||
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Timurid
Guyana (French)656 Posts
On May 20 2012 09:44 Denzil wrote: AVB played invigorating football for the EPL and lost the league sounds like Arsenal, I think Chelsea shouldn't become Arsenal. The reason why AVB failed is that Chelsea's backline doesnt know how to play a high line like Arsenal and other attacking sides. They got destroyed by that, so what does chelsea do? They go back to what they know and finally won the UEFA. The reason why arsenal are in the shit not because of our playstyle. We don't buy quality players and we invest into too much youth instead of getting experiance players instead. | ||
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sharky246
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
On May 20 2012 09:44 Denzil wrote: AVB played invigorating football for the EPL and lost the league sounds like Arsenal, I think Chelsea shouldn't become Arsenal. I didn't intend "invigorating" to be synonymous with the way Arsenal/Barcelona play. It was nice to see an EPL use a defensive tactic that relies on pressing the ball and winning it up high. Chelsea has the players to do that, but much of the old guard just couldn't adapt. Mata,Torres, Drogba, Romeu, Cole, Bosingwa, Luiz, Ramires, Malouda, and Sturridge are all great athletes who have a lot of skill. AVB could have done a great job there if given time. He made that very clear upon his entrance, during the season, and upon his exit. Just because Di Matteo won UCL this year doesn't mean AVB was an idiot, he was in the midst of changing a very entrenched style that Mourinho used in the bigger games. Given the time frame, Di Matteo did the right thing no doubt. | ||
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Sanctimonius
United Kingdom861 Posts
On May 20 2012 09:51 Timurid wrote: The reason why AVB failed is that Chelsea's backline doesnt know how to play a high line like Arsenal and other attacking sides. They got destroyed by that, so what does chelsea do? They go back to what they know and finally won the UEFA. The reason why arsenal are in the shit not because of our playstyle. We don't buy quality players and we invest into too much youth instead of getting experiance players instead. Let's face it, the only reason AVB didn't work for Chelsea is because the players didn't like the way he managed. They didn't perform for him, at all, like they didn't previous times when capable managers came by and fell victim to player-power. Those players are largely the product of a team created by Mou, and they only want to play a single way. Di Matteo played the hand he was dealt because he knew he wouldn't be able to win the match any other way - should he use tactics he knew wouldn't work? Even then they were incredibly lucky throughout the game and a more clinical opponent would have knocked 4/5 past them tonight. I'm expecting Di Matteo to get the job, it's the least he deserves. But what will he do with the team now? Looking forward to seeing them under a real new era where the old guard has to be phased out. | ||
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I expected that. Soccer is a cruel sport to love. | ||
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
On May 20 2012 08:03 DragoonTT wrote: Ever since Barcelona (and with national teams, Spain) began winning based on tiki-taka - lots of passing and ball possession - people have begun to think that beautiful football can only consist of being the lone team to have the ball, and to make as many passes as possible. No one realizes that tiki-taka is, in fact, a defensive tactic at heart, as it aims to provide as few opportunities as possible to the opponent, and to create overwhelming numbers in case of loss of possession. So by now, "conventional" defensive play against teams with high possession/highly skilled (midfield) players is looked down on, as it doesn't provide the same sense of control over the game that ball possession seems to do. True, Chelsea didn't have a lot of scoring opportunities (both against Barca and Bayern), but they excelled at converting. But Bayern didn't have a lot of good opportunities either, mostly being blocked or offside, and wasting the few shots they managed to aim at the goal. From a defender's point of view, Chelsea did an outstanding job, especially regarding the raw techinal skill the Bayern wingers provide. Reactions to the game, both by german fans and media, are pretty disgusting, claiming oh how superbly Bayern played and how catastrophic Chelsea winning is supposed to be for football, instead of appreciating solid defensive football and teamplay - something Bayern sorely lacks, along tactical variance. Bayern winning would have been great for german football in regard to the UEFA five-year ratings, but I can only applaud Chelsea on their victory. quoting for truth! First reaction after the 90 minutes was that I felt betrayed. Chelsea defended amazingly. But me and my friends all considered that Bayern wasn't able to create real chances and Chelsea defended very well. Everyone knows that Bayern doesn't have a solid defensive play (else they would not have lost the Bundesliga and the DFB-Pokal). After all it was not an ugly game (the semis wasn't neither), Chelsea just had a way better efficiency scoring... | ||
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summerloud
Austria1201 Posts
people complaining how there is too much luck invovled in starcraft 2 should be forced to watch all of chelseas games in the knockout phase, they were outclassed every single game and came to win the title haha when bayern was racking up corners i kept saying 'if chelsea get a single corner drogba will score'. when that actually happened i was literally on the floor laughing, also called robben missing the penalty, but seeing how hes robben and hes dutch i guess that was an easy call. i cant understand why they let him take the penalty, he didnt hit a straight ball all game, and his body language going to the penalty already told everyone he will miss it... serves heynckes right for bringing van buyten for mueller, what an utterly retarded substitution, and then the very thing van buyten was brought on to prevent happens, haha i was rooting more for bayern, dont like either side really, but i would have liked to see them win at home. the way it went i was too entertained to care who won though, also i feel good for drogba, he deserved that. everytime he hits the ball it seems like its twice as powerful as a normal human can hit it, neuer even had that header but couldnt hold it cuz it was just too powerful... props to chelsea for saving a ruined season, and much schadenfreude towards bayern for coming in second in every single competition this year | ||
GTR
51486 Posts
needless to say this was fucking epic to watch | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
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bazinga66
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
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KiNGxXx
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hewley
Germany1063 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 20 2012 17:34 hewley wrote: I just hope I will never see two Chelsea alike teams go at each other at a high level CL match. If that is the future of football, I'll be a sad panda. No way is it the future of football but having a team that knows how to defend isn't a bad thing. Everyone in Chelsea can defend pretty well. Some clubs could do with a little more defense. Also, at least Chelsea give other teams possession. Personally I find 65:35% possession matches boring as hell. In most matches against balanced teams the possession is like 50:50 with Chelsea. Anyway HOW ABOUT CECH? And Drogba!!! And Cole!!!! Also Lampard put in a great defensive shift...and all of them were important in the penalties!!! You have to admit...Cech dived the right way for EVERY penalty. And even got hands on 2 of the pens that went in. That was pretty crazy. | ||
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
On May 20 2012 17:46 sc4k wrote: No way is it the future of football but having a team that knows how to defend isn't a bad thing. Everyone in Chelsea can defend pretty well. Some clubs could do with a little more defense. Also, at least Chelsea give other teams possession. Personally I find 65:35% possession matches boring as hell. In most matches against balanced teams the possession is like 50:50 with Chelsea. Anyway HOW ABOUT CECH? And Drogba!!! And Cole!!!! Also Lampard put in a great defensive shift...and all of them were important in the penalties!!! You have to admit...Cech dived the right way for EVERY penalty. And even got hands on 2 of the pens that went in. That was pretty crazy. Agreed. Cech was CRAZY good at penalties, holy shit. I don't watch EPL too much so whenever I see Cech play, I'm just always amazed. | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
and tho I pretty much hate both teams, it was quite a pleasure to watch gz for the winner.. | ||
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