On March 29 2012 02:12 nttea wrote: I don't know if i should be drawing the piracy discussion any further since it might derail the thread... but it IS about paradox so :p paradox has a tendency to release some games VERY broken from start (victoria iirc was pretty much unplayable for a looong while after relase, hoi games too) and EU3 vanilla was a real snoozefest... i do love ck3 and eu3 has been so awesome since in nomine and up so i do think you should buy their games, but saying they make quality games should also be mentioned with a disclaimer.
Well my entire paradox experience has been EU3 divine wind, CK2 and Magicka. All awesome games from start, and patched to be even better. When was Victoria released?
On March 28 2012 07:39 soverelgne wrote: Meh, I was building a pretty successful Bulgarian kingdom, but then the hordes came and I had control of them for some reason. kinda killed the fun of smashing the byzantines ;/
Paradox are one of few game companies left who actually make quality games, instead of pumping out shit every 6 months that is the exact same thing. Don't pirate it.
to be fair i pirated it initially because i wasnt a huge fan of how ck1 looked
then naturally i paid my hard earned money for it because goddamn paradox games are too fucking addicting
also i needed mods that being said if you're going to make it fucking impossible for me to get something i will pirate what i please.
What do you mean by impossible to get? It's on steam. Doesn't get simpler than that. It's even easier than to pirate.
Playing the King of Poland, king Boleslaw. Ive played about 4 characters now but ive come unstuck. My damn vassals keep pressing the claim on Lithuania and I made the misstake of dividing the Kingdom between me and 3 other bloacks... So they have large territorries udner their rule and every civil war last for about 1-2 years. Im really starting to struggle now and its no fun playing on this save atm. Dont know what I can do to stop them pressing the claim. If I grant whomever claims it the kingdom they will be independent right?
I tried that with the Duchess of Mazovia (alteast 1/4th out of my Kingdom she ruled) and it caused almost every vassal I had to revolt. It was a huge mess and I had to reload (Cheating makes me sad but really wanted to continue so reloaded).
On March 29 2012 02:41 Muki wrote: The greatest asset Paradox has, are their fanatic modders. If people haven't meddled with their early releases the company may have run out of luck by now. But I don't mean this to disrespect them, they are much better developers than many others, and they really support their community, however seeing how they've been reaping money for the last few years it's reasonable to expect stable releases by now and CK2 was fairly good at launch - we'll see how good expansions they're going to make.
Afaik they don't meddle much with the game devs, so if it's unstable it's mostly up to them. I recall watching total biscuit playing magicka with the devs, and they were talking about them practically being indie and how great it was that they could do their own thing. Dunno if that's the case with the EU / CK series though. Are all Paradox games Swedish?
On March 29 2012 07:59 Bourneq wrote: Playing the King of Poland, king Boleslaw. Ive played about 4 characters now but ive come unstuck. My damn vassals keep pressing the claim on Lithuania and I made the misstake of dividing the Kingdom between me and 3 other bloacks... So they have large territorries udner their rule and every civil war last for about 1-2 years. Im really starting to struggle now and its no fun playing on this save atm. Dont know what I can do to stop them pressing the claim. If I grant whomever claims it the kingdom they will be independent right?
Yeah. Best option would imo be to go for an elective constitution and choose the biggest dude after you as heir. Then heighten crown authority so that vassals can't fight each other and give every county to a separate count. That way if a rebellion breaks loose, you generally only have to deal with 1-3 counties. Revoke the title if they're ambitious.
If this game doesn't inherit the cascading alliances of EU3, I might take a bite at it. I've quit many a game in EU3 because allies of an allies' ally decided to join in on the dogpile vs me ;_;
On March 29 2012 21:54 e4e5nf3 wrote: If this game doesn't inherit the cascading alliances of EU3, I might take a bite at it. I've quit many a game in EU3 because allies of an allies' ally decided to join in on the dogpile vs me ;_;
On March 29 2012 21:54 e4e5nf3 wrote: If this game doesn't inherit the cascading alliances of EU3, I might take a bite at it. I've quit many a game in EU3 because allies of an allies' ally decided to join in on the dogpile vs me ;_;
On March 29 2012 21:42 Caller wrote: i hate being king
just stay a duke and have hundreds of counts under you
that way if any rise up you just have to stomp on one or two counties to get the rest of them back down
That would depend on how you build shit up. Counts can get really big too, and it can become a snowball effect with one count growing more powerful than you and eating you up from the inside while you can't do shit, and when your duke dies and it's time for the next kid to do his thing, this asshole count with like 10 counties roflstomp you.
The perfect way to build a kingdom is to only have two duchies (which you control) and let the rest be OPM counts who can't do shit because of crown authority. Then you're in control. Invasion CBs are great for this.
I don't know how I feel about that. A lot of the fun in the game currently is how random it can be, especially at the start. I guess it could be cool for roleplay though.
Started out as the Duke of Cyprus and went off on a map-painting frenzy. Currently me and the King of Georgia are the two biggest elements of the Byzantine empire. Combined, we have the largest income and levy count in the game, and the conclusion of this war is pretty certain. The Byzantine Empire is about to get really, really big. HRE basically absorbed England, France, and half of Spain; this is pretty much going to recreate the original Roman Empire and it's still only 1261.
Started out as the Duke of Cyprus and went off on a map-painting frenzy. Currently me and the King of Georgia are the two biggest elements of the Byzantine empire. Combined, we have the largest income and levy count in the game, and the conclusion of this war is pretty certain. The Byzantine Empire is about to get really, really big. HRE basically absorbed England, France, and half of Spain; this is pretty much going to recreate the original Roman Empire and it's still only 1261.
Started out as the Duke of Cyprus and went off on a map-painting frenzy. Currently me and the King of Georgia are the two biggest elements of the Byzantine empire. Combined, we have the largest income and levy count in the game, and the conclusion of this war is pretty certain. The Byzantine Empire is about to get really, really big. HRE basically absorbed England, France, and half of Spain; this is pretty much going to recreate the original Roman Empire and it's still only 1261.
When the ERE claim on HRE war started, I was still in the midst of a holy war to take the Nile delta away from the Muslims.
My income is high enough that I basically keep the top tier mercenary forces hired as my professional army; they were handling the war in Egypt. I raised my personal and vassal levies in Italy, Genoa, and Venice before my liege, the ERE emperor, could raise his share, and I began to attack the HRE in Italy.
(I took Venice and Genoa early in this game, and eventually went on to take the Papal states. I'm not even sure if there is even a Catholic Pope anymore, their last bastion was a Barony in Italy. Wouldn't be the first religious leadership I've extinguished; the Sunni Caliph disappeared after I conquered the last of their holdings in what is today Iraq.)
EDIT: Just loaded up the save and chose a Catholic ruler to find out, turns out the Pope is in Uppsala, Sweden.
After two years, the war was over and the two Roman empires merged into one.
It's been civil war for the last few decades or so, though. Had to put down a particular one that emerged in the (formerly) ERE area because Georgia got drawn in and it was damaging the effort to put down the revolts in the west. Did that by assassinating the former HRE emperor, as he was the catalyst for that particular claim war for some reason. HRE immediately turned into Agnatic Primogeniture upon annexation, and the Salians with claims are all dying out.
I have a feeling there is going to be continuous war until 1433.
I am having far more fun with this game then I can even understand. I only got it two days ago. I started out as the count of Gwent (one of the independent counties in wales)... 100-150 years later his great great grandson inherited Russia. Like... all of russia. Also at some point somehow my Welsh family became hungarian and I inherited one city in hungary (not a county, just one city), so everyone in wales was pissed at me for being hungarian, and then the hungarian king of wales inherited all of russia and everyone was doubly pissed because I was welsh/hungarian and christian. Then the world exploded and the mongols came. Things got messy.
Also as far as the character designer goes, it's DLC at least so if you don't like it you can just not buy it, but for me I know exactly what I'm doing, as I'm descended from minor scottish nobility who ruled a town in midlothian, my own dynasty are totally coming into the game. :D
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