Talks of a 3-way trade with Portland, Minnesota & the Lakers, Jamal Crawford to Minny, Beasley to LA, not sure who'd go to Portland (or if it's picks or something else)

Holcan

Canada2593 Posts

March 14 2012 19:17 GMT

#4744

cap relief. no reason to pay taxes while tanking.

Phelix

1931 Posts

March 14 2012 19:22 GMT

#4745

I don't think that Phil Jackson or Jerry Sloan could fix this mess, and the Knicks cannot not lure either of them out of retirement. Bringing in Jackson would mean that he would install the Triangle offense, but that system takes a long time for players to adapt, mostly because his system requires precise footwork; that's why there's no assistant coach of Jackson's that teaches his system. I think Sloan would be better off this mess, look what happened to him and Deron back in Utah, where ownership eventually backed Deron. Dolan would back Anthony at this point because of that silly trade, and Sloan isn't known for a player's coach.

The Knicks need to flip either Amare or Carmelo, but no sane ownership team would ever trade for them as they take up so much cap space. With the new CBA, any team is going to face stricter penalties going over the cap. Trading isn't an option as no team is going to give up 2 first-rounders, plus 3-4 role players for a star that wants to do his own thing. Lottery teams aren't going to trade, the picks are valuable. Top playoff teams aren't going to trade because they already have a system in place. Middling playoff teams aren't going to trade because the team is going to think that they're 1-2 pieces off, and trading picks/players compromises their goal. The Knicks already used their amnesty clause on Billups to sign Chandler. so there's no relief there.

Dolan is obviously the problem, but "You can't fire ownership." Walsh left, D'Antoni left, and I don't think they're going to attract many high profile candidates in the off-season. This would piss off the "Knicks fans" even more than the resignation.

city42

1656 Posts

March 14 2012 19:25 GMT

#4746

On March 15 2012 03:30 VENDIZ wrote:
.. and not unexpected Jerry Sloan & Phil Jacksons name is popping up everywhere

There's no chance either of them would take that job...the franchise is doomed. As NY has learned, you can't just stick 2 superstars together and have a winning team. It works for Miami because LBJ/Wade are beyond superstar level and simply run most teams off the court. Everyone else actually needs chemistry/proper roles/a proper system, and you can't win with 2 max players playing absolutely no D.

In fact I don't even see a way to fix the Knicks. Amare is aging in dog years and they need to get rid of his contract, but no one will trade for him and I'm not sure what the rules are for the amnesty clause. As presently constituted there's no way in hell they will stand a chance vs. Miami/Chicago for the next 5 years.

Klogon

MURICA15980 Posts

March 14 2012 19:34 GMT

#4747

Lol wow poor knicks. If I was a coach I would stay faaar away from that right now.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

March 14 2012 19:35 GMT

#4748

On March 15 2012 04:22 Phelix wrote:

Dolan is obviously the problem, but "You can't fire ownership." Walsh left, D'Antoni left, and I don't think they're going to attract many high profile candidates in the off-season. This would piss off the "Knicks fans" even more than the resignation.

And amazingly no one seems to get it. Right now Stephen A Smith is talking a lot of nonsense about Melo needing to be the man. /facepalm

udgnim

United States8024 Posts

March 14 2012 19:36 GMT

#4749

D'antoni seriously should have done this first

tell A'mare & Carmelo to stay home

have Lin and the rest of of the team run his system the way it's supposed to be run, then resign after the Portland game

if Knicks win, he leaves showing he's not the sole reason for the Knicks problems

if Knicks lose, /shrug not like they've been winning

at least try going out with guns ablazing instead of on a whimper

Skullflower

United States3779 Posts

March 14 2012 19:44 GMT

#4750

On March 14 2012 11:52 Holcan wrote:
OJ DA JUICEMAN, STOP SUCKING

That will never happen

buickskylark

Canada664 Posts

March 14 2012 19:51 GMT

#4751

I'm gonna miss the Lin/Chandler/Fields/Novak/Shump line up. That was a lot of fun to watch. A lot of ball movement, a lot of PnR with Chandler down low, Novak catch and shoot those 3s then doing the DDC. And most importantly, and aggressive minded Lin. Too bad we'll never see that again.

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

March 14 2012 19:54 GMT

#4752

Calipari's name just got brought up.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

March 14 2012 19:54 GMT

#4753

I dislike the Knicks Front Office so much. This shit happens every fucking time and people STILL don't catch on. WEVE SEEN THIS SHIT BEFORE!

buickskylark

Canada664 Posts

March 14 2012 19:57 GMT

#4754

In with the new, same as the old.

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

March 14 2012 20:04 GMT

#4755

On March 15 2012 04:54 Ace wrote:
I dislike the Knicks Front Office so much. This shit happens every fucking time and people STILL don't catch on. WEVE SEEN THIS SHIT BEFORE!

Hey Knicks fans, how would you like a guy who's averaging 26ppg/6apg/5rpg? I bet he'd be pretty cheap since he just punched a fan, and I think he'd be a perfect fit in New York.

CosmicSpiral

United States15275 Posts

March 14 2012 20:10 GMT

#4756

Woodson as interim head coach? You know what that means...

ISOS ALL DAY

Even with D'Antoni gone this team ain't going anywhere. Guess we'll never see Lin + Chandler + bench working the floor again. It already seems like a distant memory...

buickskylark

Canada664 Posts

March 14 2012 20:12 GMT

#4757

MSG is going to seem like Halloween tonight with all that 'Boos' that are sure to rain down.

rei

United States3594 Posts

March 14 2012 20:17 GMT

#4758

lol howard calls meeting and tells his teammates that he's going all in for the rest of the season, it means if they don't win this season he's gone.

Holcan

Canada2593 Posts

March 14 2012 20:24 GMT

#4759

no, he called a meeting and said he was willing to sign the extension for next year.

its just a bunch of smoke so he can be the center of attention again.

source basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219736/Sources_Howard_To_Play_Final_Option_Year_Of_12_13_With_Magic

igotmyown

United States4291 Posts

March 14 2012 20:36 GMT

#4760

On March 15 2012 05:24 Holcan wrote:
no, he called a meeting and said he was willing to sign the extension for next year.

its just a bunch of smoke so he can be the center of attention again.

source basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219736/Sources_Howard_To_Play_Final_Option_Year_Of_12_13_With_Magic

Just learned the best way to run a championship team, particularly with several all stars. Every year, pretend to be looking to deal my elite players. Every other team in the league gut themselves trying to make a play at them. Decide not to trade them (requires collaboration with the players).