• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 10:04
CET 16:04
KST 00:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational10SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)19Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Which foreign pros are considered the best? BW General Discussion BW AKA finder tool
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1685 users

[wow] Mists of pandaria - Page 6

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 109 Next
The NA-based TL WoW guild has been set: it is being formed on Cenarius as alliance. Talk to farvacola if you want more info!

Add yourself to the player list!

Use this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434775 for Warlord of Draenor discussion please!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 23:33:06
October 21 2011 23:21 GMT
#101
On October 22 2011 07:56 simansh wrote:


around this time was the height of WoW, from there it just went from a decent mmo to a money cow for actiblizz.

Dear god, I can name almost every piece of gear, location, item, and spell used without reading the tooltips. Good times.

I don't play WoW anymore, but I don't think people are giving this its fair shake. The things I like about it are possibly opening up the story to new avenues by introducing a neutral playable race and choosing to focus on the war rather than bringing in some big name form Warcraft lore for us to beat on.

The bad news is that its continuing the self-destructive trend of World of Warcraft by making nothing require thought in the game anymore. They've eliminated pretty much all of the work and intelligence needed to figure things out by introducing the dungeon journal, removing talents, vastly nerfing bosses even before the raid tier is done (and making them a joke afterwards), and making gear too easy to acquire.

Because they did those things, they removed any sort of sense of achievement that people got from being one of the best because even the mediocre players would catch up to them in a week or two, so what's the point?

Some of the stuff for this expansion looks very interesting, but not enough to make me want to come back.

Edit: Oh shit, I found it:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6076524123948530313

I'm the warlock at 1:17 that gets doubleteamed by the warrior and rogue. Also at 2:50 getting owned.

The part that pissed me off about that video was that he recorded the whole damn thing and I was 3-1 against him in random 1v1s near flags/on the road in that AV. He cut out all the parts I owned him

EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
October 21 2011 23:31 GMT
#102
OMG, pokeman battles with your pets!!! Sign me up for another 10 years!!!
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
October 21 2011 23:36 GMT
#103
Pokemon had the winning formula down, now blizzard can sell more copies of WoW :D
FOOTBALL
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
October 21 2011 23:38 GMT
#104
I'm kind of upset about it. I cancelled my sub because of the path the game was taking. I was anticipating todays announcement big time. I thought it might get me back into the game. I think this is the worst idea for an expansion ever. I don't care how long the panda dudes have been a part of lore, it just doesn't fit for me. And a monk class? Really? Fuck that. Guess I'll stick with Sc2, diablo 3, and MW3 throughout the next year+.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
October 21 2011 23:41 GMT
#105
On October 22 2011 08:36 John Madden wrote:
Pokemon had the winning formula down, now blizzard can sell more copies of WoW :D

Not to mention that the company blizzard takes all their ideas for WoW from already did it.
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
October 22 2011 00:04 GMT
#106


Those dudes predicted that shit in august. =X
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 22 2011 00:14 GMT
#107
cute pandas appeal to the mass soft-core gamers. hard-core players will continue or switch to diablo 3. win-win for blizzard.
Remb
Profile Joined August 2011
United States190 Posts
October 22 2011 00:24 GMT
#108
ehhhhh...I will stick with SC and Diablo series. WoW has gone way way over the top at this point.
A virtuous act is performed habitually, and not once from incentive alone.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 22 2011 00:33 GMT
#109
On October 22 2011 09:14 jnc wrote:
cute pandas appeal to the mass soft-core gamers. hard-core players will continue or switch to diablo 3. win-win for blizzard.



people are probably gonna give me a ton of shit but i literally cannot see 1 feature in diablo that isnt in wow, and wow has a ton more gameplay too ;/

the new diablos graphics even make it look like wow

Korvish
Profile Joined October 2010
34 Posts
October 22 2011 00:34 GMT
#110
My 4 year old daughter saw the preview for this xpac and said "Kung Fu Panda, Daddy you are watching Kung Fu Panda?" Was Jack Black ( he was the voice for the main dude in that movie I think)at last years Blizzcon? Hopefully this is a joke along with the pokemon battle system. I gave this game up for alot of reasons and these things will keep me away
CutieBK
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden227 Posts
October 22 2011 01:00 GMT
#111
Ok, this might sound insane. But however amazingly, mindblowingly, earth-shattering...ly all these changes sound and look I can't shake the feeling that they're changing it too much.

Anyone who's ever undertaken a big creative project knows what I'm talking about, I think. When you start changing a line or paragraph and then eventually rework the entire thing up until the point where you go back and look at it and realise that it's barely coherent anymore.

I really do like these changes, but what is left now of the old school? There seems to be this wonderful middle way when making games where you hit the exact equilibrium between stuff to do and just idle time. With WoW now it just seems like they want every single second to be a rapture inducing journey of the soul, but is this why people play WoW? Aren't there better games for that?

I'm not against change, but I don't understand why WoW is trying to compete with every game out there when they pretty much perfected their own formula two expansions ago...

Is more new stuff really the solution or just another symptom of a flawed developing philosophy?
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
October 22 2011 01:02 GMT
#112
guild wars 2, here i go!
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
October 22 2011 01:07 GMT
#113
On October 22 2011 10:00 CutieBK wrote:
Ok, this might sound insane. But however amazingly, mindblowingly, earth-shattering...ly all these changes sound and look I can't shake the feeling that they're changing it too much.

Anyone who's ever undertaken a big creative project knows what I'm talking about, I think. When you start changing a line or paragraph and then eventually rework the entire thing up until the point where you go back and look at it and realise that it's barely coherent anymore.

I really do like these changes, but what is left now of the old school? There seems to be this wonderful middle way when making games where you hit the exact equilibrium between stuff to do and just idle time. With WoW now it just seems like they want every single second to be a rapture inducing journey of the soul, but is this why people play WoW? Aren't there better games for that?

I'm not against change, but I don't understand why WoW is trying to compete with every game out there when they pretty much perfected their own formula two expansions ago...

Is more new stuff really the solution or just another symptom of a flawed developing philosophy?


They listen to forum whiners and try to cater to everyone while in the process slowly butchering the qualities that brought people into the game in the first place.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
October 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#114
They should get Jack Black to do the voice acting for the Panda class.
CutieBK
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden227 Posts
October 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#115
On October 22 2011 10:07 Onlinejaguar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 22 2011 10:00 CutieBK wrote:
Ok, this might sound insane. But however amazingly, mindblowingly, earth-shattering...ly all these changes sound and look I can't shake the feeling that they're changing it too much.

Anyone who's ever undertaken a big creative project knows what I'm talking about, I think. When you start changing a line or paragraph and then eventually rework the entire thing up until the point where you go back and look at it and realise that it's barely coherent anymore.

I really do like these changes, but what is left now of the old school? There seems to be this wonderful middle way when making games where you hit the exact equilibrium between stuff to do and just idle time. With WoW now it just seems like they want every single second to be a rapture inducing journey of the soul, but is this why people play WoW? Aren't there better games for that?

I'm not against change, but I don't understand why WoW is trying to compete with every game out there when they pretty much perfected their own formula two expansions ago...

Is more new stuff really the solution or just another symptom of a flawed developing philosophy?


They listen to forum whiners and try to cater to everyone while in the process slowly butchering the qualities that brought people into the game in the first place.


Yeah, probably could've just written that Well summarized, man
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 22 2011 01:10 GMT
#116
POKEMON

Seriously. pokemon, so cool.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Dbars
Profile Joined July 2011
United States273 Posts
October 22 2011 01:42 GMT
#117
Meh, i like the Chinese look to the zones. Ill prolly resub to WoW for the 25th time.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
October 22 2011 01:48 GMT
#118
lol remember in 2005 april fools they had a panda express joke, yeh....... that joke is now reality.
MagickMan
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia498 Posts
October 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#119
Better be a troll. No way am i going back for this expo....
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
October 22 2011 02:19 GMT
#120
On October 22 2011 10:48 Onlinejaguar wrote:
lol remember in 2005 april fools they had a panda express joke, yeh....... that joke is now reality.


desperate time, desperate measures

+ Show Spoiler +
dunno why but i actually like the feel of the panda race even though it seems like a massive joke
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 109 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
11:00
Season 13 World Championship
Classic vs herOLIVE!
TBD vs Clem
WardiTV1343
IndyStarCraft 201
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 255
IndyStarCraft 201
ProTech120
JuggernautJason36
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3779
Rain 3143
Horang2 1409
Stork 779
GuemChi 627
ggaemo 433
Mini 297
BeSt 289
firebathero 261
Snow 256
[ Show more ]
hero 210
Hyuk 200
Barracks 166
Mong 164
Soulkey 149
Zeus 103
Hyun 83
Movie 63
Backho 58
Sharp 58
soO 51
Shuttle 51
Mind 43
Shinee 43
Dewaltoss 32
ajuk12(nOOB) 26
ToSsGirL 24
JYJ 24
Terrorterran 20
910 18
scan(afreeca) 12
Free 11
Sacsri 10
HiyA 9
Dota 2
Gorgc5687
qojqva3513
Dendi682
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2831
byalli1537
fl0m995
shoxiejesuss899
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1474
B2W.Neo1209
RotterdaM357
crisheroes330
Happy227
allub202
Hui .143
Mew2King117
Beastyqt117
XaKoH 116
Fuzer 104
QueenE93
Rex67
DeMusliM27
ArmadaUGS0
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc226
• iHatsuTV 15
• Laughngamez YouTube
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 5670
• WagamamaTV449
League of Legends
• Jankos2665
• TFBlade931
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
19h 56m
Clem vs ShoWTimE
Zoun vs Bunny
Big Brain Bouts
1d 1h
Serral vs TBD
RongYI Cup
1d 19h
SHIN vs Creator
Classic vs Percival
OSC
1d 21h
BSL 21
1d 23h
RongYI Cup
2 days
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-20
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.