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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 23:33:06
October 21 2011 23:21 GMT
#101
On October 22 2011 07:56 simansh wrote:


around this time was the height of WoW, from there it just went from a decent mmo to a money cow for actiblizz.

Dear god, I can name almost every piece of gear, location, item, and spell used without reading the tooltips. Good times.

I don't play WoW anymore, but I don't think people are giving this its fair shake. The things I like about it are possibly opening up the story to new avenues by introducing a neutral playable race and choosing to focus on the war rather than bringing in some big name form Warcraft lore for us to beat on.

The bad news is that its continuing the self-destructive trend of World of Warcraft by making nothing require thought in the game anymore. They've eliminated pretty much all of the work and intelligence needed to figure things out by introducing the dungeon journal, removing talents, vastly nerfing bosses even before the raid tier is done (and making them a joke afterwards), and making gear too easy to acquire.

Because they did those things, they removed any sort of sense of achievement that people got from being one of the best because even the mediocre players would catch up to them in a week or two, so what's the point?

Some of the stuff for this expansion looks very interesting, but not enough to make me want to come back.

Edit: Oh shit, I found it:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6076524123948530313

I'm the warlock at 1:17 that gets doubleteamed by the warrior and rogue. Also at 2:50 getting owned.

The part that pissed me off about that video was that he recorded the whole damn thing and I was 3-1 against him in random 1v1s near flags/on the road in that AV. He cut out all the parts I owned him

EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
October 21 2011 23:31 GMT
#102
OMG, pokeman battles with your pets!!! Sign me up for another 10 years!!!
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
October 21 2011 23:36 GMT
#103
Pokemon had the winning formula down, now blizzard can sell more copies of WoW :D
FOOTBALL
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
October 21 2011 23:38 GMT
#104
I'm kind of upset about it. I cancelled my sub because of the path the game was taking. I was anticipating todays announcement big time. I thought it might get me back into the game. I think this is the worst idea for an expansion ever. I don't care how long the panda dudes have been a part of lore, it just doesn't fit for me. And a monk class? Really? Fuck that. Guess I'll stick with Sc2, diablo 3, and MW3 throughout the next year+.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
October 21 2011 23:41 GMT
#105
On October 22 2011 08:36 John Madden wrote:
Pokemon had the winning formula down, now blizzard can sell more copies of WoW :D

Not to mention that the company blizzard takes all their ideas for WoW from already did it.
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
October 22 2011 00:04 GMT
#106


Those dudes predicted that shit in august. =X
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 22 2011 00:14 GMT
#107
cute pandas appeal to the mass soft-core gamers. hard-core players will continue or switch to diablo 3. win-win for blizzard.
Remb
Profile Joined August 2011
United States190 Posts
October 22 2011 00:24 GMT
#108
ehhhhh...I will stick with SC and Diablo series. WoW has gone way way over the top at this point.
A virtuous act is performed habitually, and not once from incentive alone.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 22 2011 00:33 GMT
#109
On October 22 2011 09:14 jnc wrote:
cute pandas appeal to the mass soft-core gamers. hard-core players will continue or switch to diablo 3. win-win for blizzard.



people are probably gonna give me a ton of shit but i literally cannot see 1 feature in diablo that isnt in wow, and wow has a ton more gameplay too ;/

the new diablos graphics even make it look like wow

Korvish
Profile Joined October 2010
34 Posts
October 22 2011 00:34 GMT
#110
My 4 year old daughter saw the preview for this xpac and said "Kung Fu Panda, Daddy you are watching Kung Fu Panda?" Was Jack Black ( he was the voice for the main dude in that movie I think)at last years Blizzcon? Hopefully this is a joke along with the pokemon battle system. I gave this game up for alot of reasons and these things will keep me away
CutieBK
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden227 Posts
October 22 2011 01:00 GMT
#111
Ok, this might sound insane. But however amazingly, mindblowingly, earth-shattering...ly all these changes sound and look I can't shake the feeling that they're changing it too much.

Anyone who's ever undertaken a big creative project knows what I'm talking about, I think. When you start changing a line or paragraph and then eventually rework the entire thing up until the point where you go back and look at it and realise that it's barely coherent anymore.

I really do like these changes, but what is left now of the old school? There seems to be this wonderful middle way when making games where you hit the exact equilibrium between stuff to do and just idle time. With WoW now it just seems like they want every single second to be a rapture inducing journey of the soul, but is this why people play WoW? Aren't there better games for that?

I'm not against change, but I don't understand why WoW is trying to compete with every game out there when they pretty much perfected their own formula two expansions ago...

Is more new stuff really the solution or just another symptom of a flawed developing philosophy?
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
October 22 2011 01:02 GMT
#112
guild wars 2, here i go!
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
October 22 2011 01:07 GMT
#113
On October 22 2011 10:00 CutieBK wrote:
Ok, this might sound insane. But however amazingly, mindblowingly, earth-shattering...ly all these changes sound and look I can't shake the feeling that they're changing it too much.

Anyone who's ever undertaken a big creative project knows what I'm talking about, I think. When you start changing a line or paragraph and then eventually rework the entire thing up until the point where you go back and look at it and realise that it's barely coherent anymore.

I really do like these changes, but what is left now of the old school? There seems to be this wonderful middle way when making games where you hit the exact equilibrium between stuff to do and just idle time. With WoW now it just seems like they want every single second to be a rapture inducing journey of the soul, but is this why people play WoW? Aren't there better games for that?

I'm not against change, but I don't understand why WoW is trying to compete with every game out there when they pretty much perfected their own formula two expansions ago...

Is more new stuff really the solution or just another symptom of a flawed developing philosophy?


They listen to forum whiners and try to cater to everyone while in the process slowly butchering the qualities that brought people into the game in the first place.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
October 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#114
They should get Jack Black to do the voice acting for the Panda class.
CutieBK
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden227 Posts
October 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#115
On October 22 2011 10:07 Onlinejaguar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 22 2011 10:00 CutieBK wrote:
Ok, this might sound insane. But however amazingly, mindblowingly, earth-shattering...ly all these changes sound and look I can't shake the feeling that they're changing it too much.

Anyone who's ever undertaken a big creative project knows what I'm talking about, I think. When you start changing a line or paragraph and then eventually rework the entire thing up until the point where you go back and look at it and realise that it's barely coherent anymore.

I really do like these changes, but what is left now of the old school? There seems to be this wonderful middle way when making games where you hit the exact equilibrium between stuff to do and just idle time. With WoW now it just seems like they want every single second to be a rapture inducing journey of the soul, but is this why people play WoW? Aren't there better games for that?

I'm not against change, but I don't understand why WoW is trying to compete with every game out there when they pretty much perfected their own formula two expansions ago...

Is more new stuff really the solution or just another symptom of a flawed developing philosophy?


They listen to forum whiners and try to cater to everyone while in the process slowly butchering the qualities that brought people into the game in the first place.


Yeah, probably could've just written that Well summarized, man
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 22 2011 01:10 GMT
#116
POKEMON

Seriously. pokemon, so cool.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Dbars
Profile Joined July 2011
United States273 Posts
October 22 2011 01:42 GMT
#117
Meh, i like the Chinese look to the zones. Ill prolly resub to WoW for the 25th time.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
October 22 2011 01:48 GMT
#118
lol remember in 2005 april fools they had a panda express joke, yeh....... that joke is now reality.
MagickMan
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia498 Posts
October 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#119
Better be a troll. No way am i going back for this expo....
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
October 22 2011 02:19 GMT
#120
On October 22 2011 10:48 Onlinejaguar wrote:
lol remember in 2005 april fools they had a panda express joke, yeh....... that joke is now reality.


desperate time, desperate measures

+ Show Spoiler +
dunno why but i actually like the feel of the panda race even though it seems like a massive joke
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