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So, i went screw it mode and got mop, any europeans playing? and on what server? ^^
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On September 24 2012 19:20 Canas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2012 19:06 Wildmoon wrote:On September 24 2012 09:57 Swish 41 wrote:On September 24 2012 09:48 neurosx wrote:On September 24 2012 09:38 Swish 41 wrote:On September 24 2012 07:19 Premier wrote:
I wonder how Mists is going to change WoW, it went pretty downhill in Cata, hopefully Blizz can turn it around, I really liked the original and BC Are you serious? Do you really think Blizz will change anything after adding Pandas, Pokemon and Farmville? WoW will never change back to TBC/Vanilla... MMOs just became a Casual-Genre, get over it! I gave WoW a last chance with Cata and it was a Kick in my balls. I quit 1 Month after Release. The Game is just not challenging at all anymore if you don't want to do this stupid Raid-Shit with Bosses you killed already in EZ-Moade! So you cleaned all HC in one month and left because it was too easy ? yeah sure No, I don't killed anything in HC because raiding Heroic is like farming Inferno in Diablo... more HP/more DMG and no fun at all. Vanilla-TBC Raiding was fun, because the Bosses were all new and exciting. I spend month to Kill Vashj/Kael to get into Hyjal/BT just to see Illidan! The Game is just no fun anymore since they split up Hardmode. Ulduar had the best system ever. Newbs you just kill the bosses and if you wanted a Challenge you activated the Hardmode in the difficulty you want and get better loot... But as said above. WoW will never be like back then... More like you have no skill to kill any boss in HC. BC's bosses pale in comparision to Cata's H bosses challenge wise and how is Ulduar HM any different than current HM except you activate HM in a cool way? Sorry, but you're talking out your ass. Sure, the hardest cataclysm bosses are probably the hardest there have been so far, but saying something like m'uru pales in comparision to cataclysm bosses is dumb. And the ulduar hardmodes were more fun imo because they changed the fights in a more drastic way, and they also gave you some a way to choose, ie which order you kill the iron council, which elders you leave up on freya, which watchers you use on yogg-saron, things like that. Also the fights were just more fun in general, general vesax and mimiron are some of my absolute favourite fights of all time.
Cata's H bosses are harder than BC's bosses in general. M'uru may standout as one the hardest boss of all time but H Rag is still harder than it and it's funny that your favourite bosses are from WotLK the xpac that is called the easiest xpac ever. It proved that the game could be really fun despite being casual friendly. Oh and MoP will have 1 Ulduar style HM boss in Terrace of Endless spring. Blizz said that they will do it more when they have an opportunity.
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On September 24 2012 20:48 Inori wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2012 20:39 Wildmoon wrote:On September 24 2012 19:20 Canas wrote:On September 24 2012 19:06 Wildmoon wrote:On September 24 2012 09:57 Swish 41 wrote:On September 24 2012 09:48 neurosx wrote:On September 24 2012 09:38 Swish 41 wrote:On September 24 2012 07:19 Premier wrote:
I wonder how Mists is going to change WoW, it went pretty downhill in Cata, hopefully Blizz can turn it around, I really liked the original and BC Are you serious? Do you really think Blizz will change anything after adding Pandas, Pokemon and Farmville? WoW will never change back to TBC/Vanilla... MMOs just became a Casual-Genre, get over it! I gave WoW a last chance with Cata and it was a Kick in my balls. I quit 1 Month after Release. The Game is just not challenging at all anymore if you don't want to do this stupid Raid-Shit with Bosses you killed already in EZ-Moade! So you cleaned all HC in one month and left because it was too easy ? yeah sure No, I don't killed anything in HC because raiding Heroic is like farming Inferno in Diablo... more HP/more DMG and no fun at all. Vanilla-TBC Raiding was fun, because the Bosses were all new and exciting. I spend month to Kill Vashj/Kael to get into Hyjal/BT just to see Illidan! The Game is just no fun anymore since they split up Hardmode. Ulduar had the best system ever. Newbs you just kill the bosses and if you wanted a Challenge you activated the Hardmode in the difficulty you want and get better loot... But as said above. WoW will never be like back then... More like you have no skill to kill any boss in HC. BC's bosses pale in comparision to Cata's H bosses challenge wise and how is Ulduar HM any different than current HM except you activate HM in a cool way? Sorry, but you're talking out your ass. Sure, the hardest cataclysm bosses are probably the hardest there have been so far, but saying something like m'uru pales in comparision to cataclysm bosses is dumb. And the ulduar hardmodes were more fun imo because they changed the fights in a more drastic way, and they also gave you some a way to choose, ie which order you kill the iron council, which elders you leave up on freya, which watchers you use on yogg-saron, things like that. Also the fights were just more fun in general, general vesax and mimiron are some of my absolute favourite fights of all time. it's funny that your favourite bosses are from WotLK the xpac that is called the easiest xpac ever. By whom? YS-0 is considered hardest boss in WoW history, no? Also pre-nerf Mimiron > pre-nerf M'uru.
H LK and H Rag are harder than YS-0. Most people view WotLK as a faceroll xpac not that it's a bad thing. WotLK is an awesome xpac.
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On September 24 2012 20:48 Inori wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2012 20:39 Wildmoon wrote:On September 24 2012 19:20 Canas wrote:On September 24 2012 19:06 Wildmoon wrote:On September 24 2012 09:57 Swish 41 wrote:On September 24 2012 09:48 neurosx wrote:On September 24 2012 09:38 Swish 41 wrote:On September 24 2012 07:19 Premier wrote:
I wonder how Mists is going to change WoW, it went pretty downhill in Cata, hopefully Blizz can turn it around, I really liked the original and BC Are you serious? Do you really think Blizz will change anything after adding Pandas, Pokemon and Farmville? WoW will never change back to TBC/Vanilla... MMOs just became a Casual-Genre, get over it! I gave WoW a last chance with Cata and it was a Kick in my balls. I quit 1 Month after Release. The Game is just not challenging at all anymore if you don't want to do this stupid Raid-Shit with Bosses you killed already in EZ-Moade! So you cleaned all HC in one month and left because it was too easy ? yeah sure No, I don't killed anything in HC because raiding Heroic is like farming Inferno in Diablo... more HP/more DMG and no fun at all. Vanilla-TBC Raiding was fun, because the Bosses were all new and exciting. I spend month to Kill Vashj/Kael to get into Hyjal/BT just to see Illidan! The Game is just no fun anymore since they split up Hardmode. Ulduar had the best system ever. Newbs you just kill the bosses and if you wanted a Challenge you activated the Hardmode in the difficulty you want and get better loot... But as said above. WoW will never be like back then... More like you have no skill to kill any boss in HC. BC's bosses pale in comparision to Cata's H bosses challenge wise and how is Ulduar HM any different than current HM except you activate HM in a cool way? Sorry, but you're talking out your ass. Sure, the hardest cataclysm bosses are probably the hardest there have been so far, but saying something like m'uru pales in comparision to cataclysm bosses is dumb. And the ulduar hardmodes were more fun imo because they changed the fights in a more drastic way, and they also gave you some a way to choose, ie which order you kill the iron council, which elders you leave up on freya, which watchers you use on yogg-saron, things like that. Also the fights were just more fun in general, general vesax and mimiron are some of my absolute favourite fights of all time. it's funny that your favourite bosses are from WotLK the xpac that is called the easiest xpac ever. By whom? YS-0 is considered hardest boss in WoW history, no? Also pre-nerf Mimiron > pre-nerf M'uru.
Pre nerf C'thun
a boss that was literally unkillable.
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On September 24 2012 21:02 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2012 20:48 Inori wrote:On September 24 2012 20:39 Wildmoon wrote:On September 24 2012 19:20 Canas wrote:On September 24 2012 19:06 Wildmoon wrote:On September 24 2012 09:57 Swish 41 wrote:On September 24 2012 09:48 neurosx wrote:On September 24 2012 09:38 Swish 41 wrote:On September 24 2012 07:19 Premier wrote:
I wonder how Mists is going to change WoW, it went pretty downhill in Cata, hopefully Blizz can turn it around, I really liked the original and BC Are you serious? Do you really think Blizz will change anything after adding Pandas, Pokemon and Farmville? WoW will never change back to TBC/Vanilla... MMOs just became a Casual-Genre, get over it! I gave WoW a last chance with Cata and it was a Kick in my balls. I quit 1 Month after Release. The Game is just not challenging at all anymore if you don't want to do this stupid Raid-Shit with Bosses you killed already in EZ-Moade! So you cleaned all HC in one month and left because it was too easy ? yeah sure No, I don't killed anything in HC because raiding Heroic is like farming Inferno in Diablo... more HP/more DMG and no fun at all. Vanilla-TBC Raiding was fun, because the Bosses were all new and exciting. I spend month to Kill Vashj/Kael to get into Hyjal/BT just to see Illidan! The Game is just no fun anymore since they split up Hardmode. Ulduar had the best system ever. Newbs you just kill the bosses and if you wanted a Challenge you activated the Hardmode in the difficulty you want and get better loot... But as said above. WoW will never be like back then... More like you have no skill to kill any boss in HC. BC's bosses pale in comparision to Cata's H bosses challenge wise and how is Ulduar HM any different than current HM except you activate HM in a cool way? Sorry, but you're talking out your ass. Sure, the hardest cataclysm bosses are probably the hardest there have been so far, but saying something like m'uru pales in comparision to cataclysm bosses is dumb. And the ulduar hardmodes were more fun imo because they changed the fights in a more drastic way, and they also gave you some a way to choose, ie which order you kill the iron council, which elders you leave up on freya, which watchers you use on yogg-saron, things like that. Also the fights were just more fun in general, general vesax and mimiron are some of my absolute favourite fights of all time. it's funny that your favourite bosses are from WotLK the xpac that is called the easiest xpac ever. By whom? YS-0 is considered hardest boss in WoW history, no? Also pre-nerf Mimiron > pre-nerf M'uru. Pre nerf C'thun a boss that was literally unkillable.
Well, That boss doesn't count. I would call it pre fix rather than pre nerf.
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Me too. I really loved WoW pre-Cata.
Get over with it! Cata is dead for all who loved WoW in Vanilla and TBC. If Cata dissapointed you, Pandaland will dissapoint you even more. Don't waste your time&money with this game anymore.
a boss that was literally unkillable.
It was COCKBLOCKED!
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Any TL guilds on Kazzak? I'm new to this game, and would like to be in a guild with other TLers! I'm only going to play casually.
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On September 24 2012 21:06 Swish 41 wrote:Get over with it! Cata is dead for all who loved WoW in Vanilla and TBC. If Cata dissapointed you, Pandaland will dissapoint you even more. Don't waste your time&money with this game anymore. It was COCKBLOCKED!
This trolling isn't very good. Should stop wasting your time attempting it.
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Wasn't the hardest Boss, disregarding VERY early wow where only the severest class stacking helped because half the classes got fisted by the itemisation, the classic 4 Horsemen?
Catas first raid tier was cool(as where the 5 man heroics, they just got overgeared/nerfed way too quick). Fun bossfights on normal and nothing was totally faceroll, Heroic mode changed most of the fights in an interesting way... Alltogether really nicely done except that the 10 / 25 man balance in Heroics was totally fucked up on some Bosses....
Firelands... "meh", I never liked it but the Ragnaros fight was cool.
Dragon Soul? What the fuck were they thinking...
Not even going to comment big on the "raid finder" except that its an abomination and makes sure that I and many others won't ever touch this game again.
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On September 24 2012 22:23 Velr wrote:
Wasn't the hardest Boss, disregarding VERY early wow where only the severest class stacking helped because half the classes got fisted by the itemisation, the classic 4 Horsemen?
Catas first raid tier was cool(as where the 5 man heroics, they just got overgeared/nerfed way too quick). Fun bossfights on normal and nothing was totally faceroll, Heroic mode changed most of the fights in an interesting way... Alltogether really nicely done except that the 10 / 25 man balance in Heroics was totally fucked up on some Bosses....
Firelands... "meh", I never liked it but the Ragnaros fight was cool.
Dragon Soul? What the fuck were they thinking...
Not even going to comment big on the "raid finder" except that its an abomination and makes sure that I and many others won't ever touch this game again.
From what I've read about classic Naxx, it was probably the hardest raid period. No other raid required you clear all the other content for some buff just to have a chance vs the bosses in Naxx. I remember reading stacking Rallycrying of the dragonslayer/ the hakkar buff/ some other one just to have some chance to beat naxx lol
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On September 24 2012 22:23 Velr wrote:
Wasn't the hardest Boss, disregarding VERY early wow where only the severest class stacking helped because half the classes got fisted by the itemisation, the classic 4 Horsemen?
The reason 4 horsemen was such a massive fucking cockblock was that you needed to have 8 INSANELY well geared tanks (and only warriors could tank in vanilla), and gearing up that many people of the same class took ages, so basically what happened on a lot of realms (mine included), was that the top guilds would try to poach eachothers tanks in order to be able to do the fight without having to farm gear on their tanks for 2 months first, and this obviously leads to not that many guilds being able to kill it.
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On September 24 2012 20:54 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2012 20:48 Inori wrote:On September 24 2012 20:39 Wildmoon wrote:On September 24 2012 19:20 Canas wrote:On September 24 2012 19:06 Wildmoon wrote:On September 24 2012 09:57 Swish 41 wrote:On September 24 2012 09:48 neurosx wrote:On September 24 2012 09:38 Swish 41 wrote:On September 24 2012 07:19 Premier wrote:
I wonder how Mists is going to change WoW, it went pretty downhill in Cata, hopefully Blizz can turn it around, I really liked the original and BC Are you serious? Do you really think Blizz will change anything after adding Pandas, Pokemon and Farmville? WoW will never change back to TBC/Vanilla... MMOs just became a Casual-Genre, get over it! I gave WoW a last chance with Cata and it was a Kick in my balls. I quit 1 Month after Release. The Game is just not challenging at all anymore if you don't want to do this stupid Raid-Shit with Bosses you killed already in EZ-Moade! So you cleaned all HC in one month and left because it was too easy ? yeah sure No, I don't killed anything in HC because raiding Heroic is like farming Inferno in Diablo... more HP/more DMG and no fun at all. Vanilla-TBC Raiding was fun, because the Bosses were all new and exciting. I spend month to Kill Vashj/Kael to get into Hyjal/BT just to see Illidan! The Game is just no fun anymore since they split up Hardmode. Ulduar had the best system ever. Newbs you just kill the bosses and if you wanted a Challenge you activated the Hardmode in the difficulty you want and get better loot... But as said above. WoW will never be like back then... More like you have no skill to kill any boss in HC. BC's bosses pale in comparision to Cata's H bosses challenge wise and how is Ulduar HM any different than current HM except you activate HM in a cool way? Sorry, but you're talking out your ass. Sure, the hardest cataclysm bosses are probably the hardest there have been so far, but saying something like m'uru pales in comparision to cataclysm bosses is dumb. And the ulduar hardmodes were more fun imo because they changed the fights in a more drastic way, and they also gave you some a way to choose, ie which order you kill the iron council, which elders you leave up on freya, which watchers you use on yogg-saron, things like that. Also the fights were just more fun in general, general vesax and mimiron are some of my absolute favourite fights of all time. it's funny that your favourite bosses are from WotLK the xpac that is called the easiest xpac ever. By whom? YS-0 is considered hardest boss in WoW history, no? Also pre-nerf Mimiron > pre-nerf M'uru. H LK and H Rag are harder than YS-0. Most people view WotLK as a faceroll xpac not that it's a bad thing. WotLK is an awesome xpac.
not to nitpick, but to say H LK with the 10-15% buff (probably where most good guilds killed it, we got it at 10) is harder than current alone in the darkness is laughable. really, really good players called that fight mathematically impossible during progression - that definitely wasn't the mood around H LK, which was more of a "hardly tuned" hard than a "hard mechanics" hard
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Anyone playing on Emerald Dream?
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On September 25 2012 04:18 spacek wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2012 20:54 Wildmoon wrote:On September 24 2012 20:48 Inori wrote:On September 24 2012 20:39 Wildmoon wrote:On September 24 2012 19:20 Canas wrote:On September 24 2012 19:06 Wildmoon wrote:On September 24 2012 09:57 Swish 41 wrote:On September 24 2012 09:48 neurosx wrote:On September 24 2012 09:38 Swish 41 wrote:On September 24 2012 07:19 Premier wrote:
I wonder how Mists is going to change WoW, it went pretty downhill in Cata, hopefully Blizz can turn it around, I really liked the original and BC Are you serious? Do you really think Blizz will change anything after adding Pandas, Pokemon and Farmville? WoW will never change back to TBC/Vanilla... MMOs just became a Casual-Genre, get over it! I gave WoW a last chance with Cata and it was a Kick in my balls. I quit 1 Month after Release. The Game is just not challenging at all anymore if you don't want to do this stupid Raid-Shit with Bosses you killed already in EZ-Moade! So you cleaned all HC in one month and left because it was too easy ? yeah sure No, I don't killed anything in HC because raiding Heroic is like farming Inferno in Diablo... more HP/more DMG and no fun at all. Vanilla-TBC Raiding was fun, because the Bosses were all new and exciting. I spend month to Kill Vashj/Kael to get into Hyjal/BT just to see Illidan! The Game is just no fun anymore since they split up Hardmode. Ulduar had the best system ever. Newbs you just kill the bosses and if you wanted a Challenge you activated the Hardmode in the difficulty you want and get better loot... But as said above. WoW will never be like back then... More like you have no skill to kill any boss in HC. BC's bosses pale in comparision to Cata's H bosses challenge wise and how is Ulduar HM any different than current HM except you activate HM in a cool way? Sorry, but you're talking out your ass. Sure, the hardest cataclysm bosses are probably the hardest there have been so far, but saying something like m'uru pales in comparision to cataclysm bosses is dumb. And the ulduar hardmodes were more fun imo because they changed the fights in a more drastic way, and they also gave you some a way to choose, ie which order you kill the iron council, which elders you leave up on freya, which watchers you use on yogg-saron, things like that. Also the fights were just more fun in general, general vesax and mimiron are some of my absolute favourite fights of all time. it's funny that your favourite bosses are from WotLK the xpac that is called the easiest xpac ever. By whom? YS-0 is considered hardest boss in WoW history, no? Also pre-nerf Mimiron > pre-nerf M'uru. H LK and H Rag are harder than YS-0. Most people view WotLK as a faceroll xpac not that it's a bad thing. WotLK is an awesome xpac. not to nitpick, but to say H LK with the 10-15% buff (probably where most good guilds killed it, we got it at 10) is harder than current alone in the darkness is laughable. really, really good players called that fight mathematically impossible during progression - that definitely wasn't the mood around H LK, which was more of a "hardly tuned" hard than a "hard mechanics" hard
The same really, really good players then killed Yogg+0 within a week or so after Stars did it.
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Pandemona
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Lol Kungen one of the most famous Tanks ever to grace EU has come back. Saying GW2 "was bad" and is now streaming WoW constantly again <3
My warrior friend is back ftw!
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On September 25 2012 04:59 Pandemona wrote:
Lol Kungen one of the most famous Tanks ever to grace EU has come back. Saying GW2 "was bad" and is now streaming WoW constantly again <3
My warrior friend is back ftw!
In GW2's defense, he was bad as well...
MoP might be good if world pvp makes a comeback ,_,
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i think Kungen just plays that what gives him the most viewers.. i watched him during his d3 hc attempt where he said: "i will never play wow again" and "i wont play guildwars 2 at release"
i think he will start playing LoL after his viewers go down with wow, even he flames LoL players 24/7 x)
i think i will pick up MoP, alone for the pokemon system 
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Must be a bad game if he got banned for exploiting.
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On September 25 2012 03:42 Canas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2012 22:23 Velr wrote:
Wasn't the hardest Boss, disregarding VERY early wow where only the severest class stacking helped because half the classes got fisted by the itemisation, the classic 4 Horsemen? The reason 4 horsemen was such a massive fucking cockblock was that you needed to have 8 INSANELY well geared tanks (and only warriors could tank in vanilla), and gearing up that many people of the same class took ages, so basically what happened on a lot of realms (mine included), was that the top guilds would try to poach eachothers tanks in order to be able to do the fight without having to farm gear on their tanks for 2 months first, and this obviously leads to not that many guilds being able to kill it.
This isnt exactly true, the reason you had warriors tank is because of the 4pc T3 which was increased chance to hit on taunt.
You could have used druids as well, it just wasnt optimal. Also most guilds on 4H+ were easily capable of just funneling 4pc T3 to people for offspecs.
The real problem was Sapphiron and Kelthuzad with priest stacking.
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