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AeroVT
United States20 Posts
On October 22 2011 03:02 Ig wrote: Dude, but it's AWESOME! Maybe if it gets developed more and can be activated for events we could get it for fun. Hmmm maybe a charge like you have to hit 3 or 4 times within a time limit...I might post on the mod forum asking for a PVP capable version. | ||
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Skipper94
Israel12 Posts
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Casores
16 Posts
we came there killed 3 of them and they all logged out and stayed away from their base... now we cant do anything and its really annoying... but its like the biggest pvpers of the servers are pussies | ||
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Drolla
United Kingdom389 Posts
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Casores
16 Posts
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RQShatter
United States459 Posts
What you are describing is a raid. You brought 10 people to kill 3 people in our faction. and expect to be able to loot the chests? Get real. Btw everyone who logged off died in our base. I, sadmadbad, was not even online on the attack so no I did not log off. Just didnt log off with all of you guys around. | ||
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GigaFlop
United States1146 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:04 Casores wrote: i say it should cost 1 death to break a chest... That would be gamebreaking, absolutely gamebreaking. | ||
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Casores
16 Posts
On October 22 2011 06:58 Drolla wrote: Yes and it defeats the whole point of a PvP server if the victors can't collect their spoils of war. | ||
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Nevarix
Sweden294 Posts
Wait, so you expect to claim our whole base when you kill 3 afk guys? | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
Sieging a faction can spend 4 power to reduce the power of another faction by 1. the players must be online(so their power can be used to attack with) and present at the land of the defending faction This action is broadcasted to the server "Faction A(60/100) is sieging faction B (20/100)" in this example faction A just spent 40 power to drain faction B 10 power from 30 to 20. this alerts nearby factions that faction B is being sieged, and that faction A is much weaker now, and vulnerable to counter attack (if they keep up a prolonged siege) Benefits: no longer can a single man faction become invincible to attack (they currently only need to log off to protect everything ever) encourages active defense of your land, killing a player removes them from your land removing 15 power that can be used to siege you, (10 power of the player dead and 5 total power loss to faction) Small factions can use traps/diplomacy in order to avoid raiding, instead of system abuse. smart tactical decisions to be made by raiding groups, instead of the current, kill everyone and repeat. Negatives: potentially if only one faction is on they could siege someone for hours with no consequence. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4336 Posts
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:31 Nevarix wrote: Wait, so you expect to claim our whole base when you kill 3 afk guys? We attacked when you had 5. Should we wait til you are ready and announce when we are coming? | ||
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RQShatter
United States459 Posts
On October 22 2011 10:25 justinpal wrote: We attacked when you had 5. Should we wait til you are ready and announce when we are coming? We did not have 5. Aixler Charos Psyonic and Soda. Also, if you are going to call us pussies and say that we dont want to pvp. Yes you should. Unless you come with fair numbers I cant help but think that you are the pussies :D | ||
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Nevarix
Sweden294 Posts
On October 22 2011 10:25 justinpal wrote: We attacked when you had 5. Should we wait til you are ready and announce when we are coming? That's not what I said. Your attack was fine, but you cant expect to wipe out our faction just because you managed to kill 3 persons. | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On October 22 2011 10:30 Nevarix wrote: That's not what I said. Your attack was fine, but you cant expect to wipe out our faction just because you managed to kill 3 persons. Oh I don't. I guess I misunderstood you. The only thing I was bothered by was the fact that PvP is easily dodged by logging out. But, this is true in every game. | ||
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Drolla
United Kingdom389 Posts
On October 22 2011 07:31 Nevarix wrote: Wait, so you expect to claim our whole base when you kill 3 afk guys? Well we should at least get something for our efforts. The previous rounds have been too short for any sustained, long-term faction wars. It also discourages PvP if you prepare an attack, co-ordinate it and then discover you have gained nothing from it due to the opposing faction logging out. | ||
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Sprungjeezy
United States1313 Posts
On October 22 2011 10:49 Drolla wrote: Well we should at least get something for our efforts. The previous rounds have been too short for any sustained, long-term faction wars. It also discourages PvP if you prepare an attack, co-ordinate it and then discover you have gained nothing from it due to the opposing faction logging out. From what I've read most of your argument is that your raid gave you no reward. Did you kill completely naked players? If not then their loot is your reward. If you think you deserve their chests, you need to work more for them. You need to bring them to a negative power and claim the land. If this proves too difficult then that is too bad. If one death gave you the ability to loot their chests then it would be pointless trying to collect any loot at all because it would be far too easy. You clearly did not have a strong victory over them or else you would have killed them several times and brought them into negatives (this if anything ought to be your argument that the maximum power is too high or when you die you lose too little power, but through countless other raids and battles of experience I have come to believe that at the moment the power capacity may be a little too high, but as it is this is more balanced than any previous round and it is still EXTREMELY viable to kill a few people and loot them). You are not using the current mechanics correctly, you need to kill them once and push them into a corner (or chase them down from the graveyard/wait for them to log back in if they are being cowards) and kill them again and again. As it is, power regen is painfully slow and allows you to kill them a few times over the course of an hour and easily bring them to negative power, then you proceed to claim their land and loot it. If you do not bring them to the negative power, you do not deserve their loot. tl;dr.. Your argument is that it is too hard (not carebear enough) while the server admins are aiming for a fair balance between being able to defend yourself and loot versus being able to kill others and take their loot. Currently it is for the most part quite balanced and you are just QQing over nothing (except them possibly being cowards which may be your opinion). So man up and kill them more and earn your loot like they and every other successful faction has. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On October 22 2011 10:29 RQShatter wrote: We did not have 5. Aixler Charos Psyonic and Soda. Also, if you are going to call us pussies and say that we dont want to pvp. Yes you should. Unless you come with fair numbers I cant help but think that you are the pussies :D You're asking for fair numbers in PvP? Christ... | ||
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Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
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