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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 20:10:35
August 04 2015 20:07 GMT
#19061
And now ESL is asking Thorin to work with them to refine their ranking system wow.

https://twitter.com/theflyingdj/status/628596353573072896

They almost did a complete 180 after the backlash from the community. I guess they can listen when they really try, or when enough people are pissed.
Still, it must have taken a lot for them to ask thorin (who has always great and well-thought rankings), especially after "that" incident and the cold relationship they had with him since then.

Edit: btw, are twitter previews broken since the new design of TL?
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
August 04 2015 21:35 GMT
#19062
I dont think neither Thorins nor ESL ranking are pretty solid.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51696 Posts
August 05 2015 03:39 GMT
#19063
bad idea.
you're going to get so much subjectivity now if its based on one person.

in my opinion if you're going to have person-based rankings you should at least have a panel of five or something.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 05 2015 04:30 GMT
#19064
They should just let me do it 8)

GTR nice icon LOL.
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 05 2015 08:48 GMT
#19065
On August 05 2015 13:30 Souma wrote:
They should just let me do it 8)

GTR nice icon LOL.

rip icons
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 05 2015 16:48 GMT
#19066
On August 05 2015 12:39 GTR wrote:
bad idea.
you're going to get so much subjectivity now if its based on one person.

in my opinion if you're going to have person-based rankings you should at least have a panel of five or something.

To his credit, that was what Thorin was proposing in his video about the subject. A panel of expert.

Still, Thorin's ranking is very good. Especially compared to ESL's.
Also, I don't think ESL contacted him to make a hand-crafted ranking. They want his opinion on how to improve the automatic ranking, and he had a lot of great points about that too (well, atleast on why the ESL ranking system does so bad).
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 20:08:46
August 06 2015 20:07 GMT
#19067
Anyone in the EU (LEM+) fancy themselves an IGL and want to start a team? Willing to do all the ground work out of game, just need someone who knows their shit for IGL.

PM if you do :-)

(P.S. Sorry about the elitist rank req shit here on TL, just semi-serious about a proper team )
Useless wet fish.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 06 2015 20:14 GMT
#19068
Ping TL's pronax aka Epoxide.
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porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
August 06 2015 20:36 GMT
#19069
Luolis is the self proclaimed best IGL in all of the world and also happens to be LEM, hit him up!
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 06 2015 21:05 GMT
#19070
On August 07 2015 05:14 Souma wrote:
Ping TL's pronax aka Epoxide.

you think too highly of me
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
August 07 2015 00:57 GMT
#19071
Clenching my butt real hard every game, 8 losses in a row :p

The IEM gamescom format is really cool, it's a pretty legit format but then again, all we see is SK - Renegades :p
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 17:11:22
August 07 2015 17:10 GMT
#19072
geez is the comp mm always this bad?
im slowly doing my placement matches and so far out of 12ish games i had

a bunch of angry kids that screamed nonstop and then voted to kick me off
a guy that shouted "I GO B,I GO A, FUCK YOU I DO WHATEVER I WANT" and 2 rounds later started shooting at his own team
a 3 team of total idiots blocking doors just to molotov us, randomly sitting on eachother at the spawn and giggling over trying to do 360 jump shots (i thin k they even randomly met on the server and found that they are equaly stupid after one started the blocking...)
4 russians not speaking a single word of english that spent half the match camping on own spawn buying nothing till they had the money for an awp.
a match where 2 of my team left within 5 minutes
a match where 2 of the enemy team left within 10 mihutes

if 50% bullshit waste of time is what i have to expect here then maybe i should just stop. im too busy to randomly waste an hour watching some kids go through their puberty.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 07 2015 17:21 GMT
#19073
i never encounter that stuff, around what rank are you?
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
August 07 2015 17:35 GMT
#19074
It's his placement, can't be too high. Try to focus on our own game and try to ignore, no other choice at the start if you don't have anyone else to play with. Playing with 1 friend already helps a ton with morale and mood.

Your situation is pretty bad but it gets slightly better at higher ranks, I mean, really slightly. Depends on luck as well. I can usually only play solo queue midnight but I highly suggest you dodge those times. Haven't really paid attention to other times on which is good.

I've come a long way to realize that when it's just one of those games, I just play the game. If you prefer ignore everyone but I rather have a little but of information still. Sometimes I just go ham and turn on music to relax, when it's a really unlucky day.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 17:51:27
August 07 2015 17:50 GMT
#19075
fun thing is i cant play with my brother cause im in placements and also cant play with him cause of the "failed connection to server" bug thingy that no one seems able to help me with ;/

guess ill just finish placements and then check if this continues. it is really fun when a proper match happens atleast. but sables comment really didnt exactly give me hope..

oh also does performance go into the placement evaluation? or can i go afk in the extreme cases?
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 07 2015 17:55 GMT
#19076
On August 08 2015 02:50 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
fun thing is i cant play with my brother cause im in placements and also cant play with him cause of the "failed connection to server" bug thingy that no one seems able to help me with ;/

guess ill just finish placements and then check if this continues. it is really fun when a proper match happens atleast. but sables comment really didnt exactly give me hope..

oh also does performance go into the placement evaluation? or can i go afk in the extreme cases?

You have to win 10 times to get placed. I don't have any problem at all when queueing, it got a lot better around gold nova master.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 08 2015 20:47 GMT
#19077
the greatest save in all of CS:GO history

+ Show Spoiler +
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7196 Posts
August 08 2015 21:13 GMT
#19078
On August 07 2015 05:36 porkRaven wrote:
Luolis is the self proclaimed best IGL in all of the world and also happens to be LEM, hit him up!

100% true
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
August 09 2015 21:40 GMT
#19079
anyone use faceit? thoughts on it? really sick of these le/lems dropped 30 frags, totally legit players.
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
August 09 2015 22:54 GMT
#19080
I was at Cologne IEM for the TSM, EnvyUs BO5. The kennyS show was real, so fkin hype.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
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